Mass Effect 3 Core Content Stripped to Make Day 1 DLC - Only Free to CE

It doesn't prove anything; It just provides the perspective of the argument against certain kinds of DLC. You're getting entirely the wrong impression of why people are complaining. It has very little to do with timing and more to do with intentionally selling an incomplete product for a few extra $$$.Swiftstrike5

No matter how to slice it - a company will say anything to save face. I call BS on their "explanation" and say the content should be made free. The douchebags dont deserve the money after all this. Bioware should know better. Burn, baby, burn. Gamesterpheonix

to fully understand the situation and hopefully it will educate you as it did myself read carefully the process for finishing and shipping the product and what they do in the meantime. of course as you can speculate from the article that of course they couldve put this into the finished product but then again it would push back the launch date...just something for you to consider next time a dev company shouts Day 1 dlc. although one thing i do agree with is that i think it should be free because you already spent 65USD (taxes included) on the game...would be a great thing to do for gamers who have stuck around for 3 iterations!

Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

James161324

ive seen this part played out many times before.

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Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

yellosnolvr

ive seen this part played out many times before.

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[QUOTE="James161324"]

Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

DanielDust

ive seen this part played out many times before.

After all the goodwill BioWare built up with the free Cerberus Network DLC for Mass Effect 2 (including Zaeed: The Price of Revenge day one DLC for anyone who bought a new copy of the game) doing this seems completely counter-intuitive. Not just counter-intuitive, but also heartless. That, coupled with the fact of apparently who is in the DLC makes it all the more stranger, because the character implies they are kind of important to the overall story of the game.

I expect it was EA Marketing and Managerial pushing them towards doing this, but that doesn't make it any less difficult to swallow. Also, you'll probably need to buy it through Origin so those leftover BioWare points will be worthless.

Didn't they also have DLC that linked the story between Mass Effect 2 and 3? If so, this doesn't seem like a surprise move.

Didn't they also have DLC that linked the story between Mass Effect 2 and 3? If so, this doesn't seem like a surprise move.

MyopicCanadian

After what i played in the demo i dont even want to play the game anyway. 1 shot husks...really?

After what i played in the demo i dont even want to play the game anyway. 1 shot husks...really?

edinsftw

I am going to adopt a wait-and-see approach. If the content is indeed for deluxe editions, then it is truly a lousy move on EA/Bioware's parts. I am a huge Bioware fan (borderline "Biodrone"), but even this is unacceptable to me. the_ChEeSe_mAn2

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]I am going to adopt a wait-and-see approach. If the content is indeed for deluxe editions, then it is truly a lousy move on EA/Bioware's parts. I am a huge Bioware fan (borderline "Biodrone"), but even this is unacceptable to me. topsemag55

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]I am going to adopt a wait-and-see approach. If the content is indeed for deluxe editions, then it is truly a lousy move on EA/Bioware's parts. I am a huge Bioware fan (borderline "Biodrone"), but even this is unacceptable to me. topsemag55

Exactly. This is the problem with a lot of people on these forums; they don't understand the development process and go on complaining about things they just don't get.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]I am going to adopt a wait-and-see approach. If the content is indeed for deluxe editions, then it is truly a lousy move on EA/Bioware's parts. I am a huge Bioware fan (borderline "Biodrone"), but even this is unacceptable to me. Phoenix534

Exactly. This is the problem with a lot of people on these forums; they don't understand the development process and go on complaining about things they just don't get.

I don't see a problem with this, as I pre-ordered the deluxe DD edition. I don't understand all of the hoopla over this. Games have deadlines to meet, they need time to do final bug-fixes and get the game code to the DVD manufacturer. I can't see any game developer sitting on their hands when a game is finished, just sitting around waiting for sales to begin...of course they will make new stuff to add on.topsemag55

Both DAO and ME2 had day one DLC, but it was free for those who bought a new copy of the game.

This time they're charging 10$.

What is hard to understand about the fuss :? ?

Exactly. This is the problem with a lot of people on these forums; they don't understand the development process and go on complaining about things they just don't get.

Phoenix534

But you do :lol: ?

[QUOTE="topsemag55"] I don't see a problem with this, as I pre-ordered the deluxe DD edition. I don't understand all of the hoopla over this. Games have deadlines to meet, they need time to do final bug-fixes and get the game code to the DVD manufacturer. I can't see any game developer sitting on their hands when a game is finished, just sitting around waiting for sales to begin...of course they will make new stuff to add on.N30F3N1X

Both DAO and ME2 had day one DLC, but it was free for those who bought a new copy of the game.

This time they're charging 10$.

What is hard to understand about the fuss :? ?

Exactly! I've asked that question several times and no one dared to respond because they can't come up with an excuse for BioWare and ME3 this time.

"Then why isn't it free this time?"

7 pages for this stupid crap?

After DrAgon ageII, it was pretty clear to me, that bioware is no longer in control of the company.

Ea want's to make money and they couldn't care less about their products or the quality of their products.

Breaking a game into bits and selling each bit of the game as DLC for extra cash is insane.

I won't buy ME3, I might play it at a friends house, but I won't let EA sh1t all over me like this, at least not without me sh1tting a bit back on them.

BAD MOVE, VERY GREEDY, VERY DUMB!

back in the day when DLCs were not the norm, many thought it was just a gimmick. a trend that will die quickly. yeah. like it or not, DLC proves to be successful because people bought them because they add content and extend the game's longevity. today, DLCs become the norm because of its success. publishers see that as profitable err exploitable

[QUOTE="topsemag55"] I don't see a problem with this, as I pre-ordered the deluxe DD edition. I don't understand all of the hoopla over this. Games have deadlines to meet, they need time to do final bug-fixes and get the game code to the DVD manufacturer. I can't see any game developer sitting on their hands when a game is finished, just sitting around waiting for sales to begin...of course they will make new stuff to add on.N30F3N1X

Both DAO and ME2 had day one DLC, but it was free for those who bought a new copy of the game.

This time they're charging 10$.

What is hard to understand about the fuss :? ?

Exactly! I've asked that question several times and no one dared to respond because they can't come up with an excuse for BioWare and ME3 this time.

"Then why isn't it free this time?"

Elann2008

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Exactly! I've asked that question several times and no one dared to respond because they can't come up with an excuse for BioWare and ME3 this time.

"Then why isn't it free this time?"

topsemag55

I guess i preorderer the wrong version...hmmm how silly of me! Next i better fork out extra for a collectors edition to make sure i get the whole game!

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="Elann2008"]

Exactly! I've asked that question several times and no one dared to respond because they can't come up with an excuse for BioWare and ME3 this time.

"Then why isn't it free this time?"

robertlie

I guess i preorderer the wrong version...hmmm how silly of me! Next i better fork out extra for a collectors edition to make sure i get the whole game!

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[QUOTE="topsemag55"] I don't see a problem with this, as I pre-ordered the deluxe DD edition. I don't understand all of the hoopla over this. Games have deadlines to meet, they need time to do final bug-fixes and get the game code to the DVD manufacturer. I can't see any game developer sitting on their hands when a game is finished, just sitting around waiting for sales to begin...of course they will make new stuff to add on.Elann2008

Exactly. This is the problem with a lot of people on these forums; they don't understand the development process and go on complaining about things they just don't get.

That content still costs money to make.

You are getting the full game. The DLC was in development after the game went gold. The developers spent extra time with the DLC, its not free because developing content is not free. People at bioware make games to put food on the table. This DLC was never planned to be in the original game, and because of that it should not be considered part of Mass Effect 3's final product. You bought the full game the moment you reordered.Brean24

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[QUOTE="topsemag55"] It is free if you pre-ordered the right version.Brean24

I guess i preorderer the wrong version...hmmm how silly of me! Next i better fork out extra for a collectors edition to make sure i get the whole game!

Never considered to be in the full game, but conveniently finished at release date......IF you bought the Collectors ed, or pay extra. Good times. And have you ever stopped and thought about what this could mean for future games? I mean, as stated hundreds times before, they could strip what they want from the game, and say "it was not supposed to be included in the final game". You know damn well that this is not about putting food on anyones plates, it's about milking the cow dry. And any farmer could tell you that that's just plain bad business.

You are getting the full game. The DLC was in development after the game went gold. The developers spent extra time with the DLC, its not free because developing content is not free. Brean24

...And yet his files are in the demo? And his designs are in the official art book for the game? And we knew about him nine months ago? And he was in the leaked script, which Bioware kept claiming was a really old, outdated version of what the game would be?

Sorry, but if Bioware said that, they are flat-out lying.

That content still costs money to make.

Phoenix534

But it didn't for DAO and ME2?

The day one DLC for them was free.

I'm buying the Deluxe DD version, so it comes with it, and it doesn't cost me any more...think about it, if they didn't make this day 1 DLC, my price would have been the same, but I'm getting extra for free.:Dtopsemag55

Yeah, I'm thinking about it, I'm thinking really badly at what could have gone SO wrong between you and your math teachers :?

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]I'm buying the Deluxe DD version, so it comes with it, and it doesn't cost me any more...think about it, if they didn't make this day 1 DLC, my price would have been the same, but I'm getting extra for free.:DN30F3N1X

Yeah, I'm thinking about it, I'm thinking really badly at what could have gone SO wrong between you and your math teachers :?

If they didn't make the day 1 DLC, the price is still the same, what don't you understand?:?topsemag55

It's still the same to those who bought a Collector's Edition, not to everyone :|

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]If they didn't make the day 1 DLC, the price is still the same, what don't you understand?:?N30F3N1X

It's still the same to those who bought a Collector's Edition, not to everyone :|

It's still the same, no one is forcing you to buy a DLC. The price you paid for the game doesn't change unless you choose to buy. One more reason to go digital over DVD.:Dtopsemag55

You're not talking any sense.

Nobody gives a **** if the DLC is optional or not. It will be released the same day as the game and they're charging (a lot, too) for it.

DAO and ME2 had day one DLC aswell, but EVERYONE who bought a new copy of the game got it for free. Not just those who bought a digital deluxe or a collector's edition.

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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]If they didn't make the day 1 DLC, the price is still the same, what don't you understand?:?topsemag55

It's still the same to those who bought a Collector's Edition, not to everyone :|

lol how dumb biodrones can be

/facepalm

lol how dumb biodrones can be

/facepalm

Krelian-co

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lol how dumb biodrones can be

/facepalm

topsemag55

lol i love mass effect games, and kotor, bg series and da:o, so no im no hater, i think they are good developers even if i highly dislike the way they are doing business

i guess i should look like a dumb biodrone like yourself because i like it? or post moronic replies like yours?

liking something does not mean i can't critize it or act like a biodrone, they are doing thing the wrong way. god help me the day i become as brainless as you.

I mean, as stated hundreds times before, they could strip what they want from the game, and say "it was not supposed to be included in the final game".robertlie

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

lol how dumb biodrones can be

/facepalm

Krelian-co

lol i love mass effect games, and kotor, bg series and da:o, so no im no hater, i think they are good developers even if i highly dislike the way they are doing business

i guess i should look like a dumb biodrone like yourself because i like it? or post moronic replies like yours?

liking something does not mean i can't critize it or act like a biodrone, they are doing thing the wrong way. god help me the day i become as brainless as you.

How long is this pointless thread going to go on before you all realise it dosen't **** matter? All the effort you put into this useless 8 page thread could of gone to making you way more then 10 measly bucks.