Modern Warfare 2 is worth it

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#101 V4LENT1NE
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="musclesforcier"] It's only been out a day how can you conclude there are less hackers? I much prefer a server browser.

IW now has more control over the game than it did with using peoples own ded servers, ofc there will be less hackers.

not true in the least bit...the only thing that keeps counterstrike and battlefield servers from being hacked is watchful admins

Well thats the dream situation for any game but thats takes a lot of money which they arent going to bother with most likely. IW now will have complete control over the login process so it will be much easier to keep people out of the game rather then just from a few servers they have been caught on. And the people who are talking about Xbox Hacking, never ever seen one hacker in COD2, COD4, CODMW2, glitchers ofc but thats to be expected. In the PC bersion of COD4 there was a lot of hackers roaming around, and its pretty sad. Fully understand IW reason for doing this whatever it may turn out to eventually come down to, it will have cost them more money to put this system in place then let people run dedicated servers, you must remember dedicated servers were run by players not IW themselves, they now do have more control over the players.
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#102 Ontain
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] IW now has more control over the game than it did with using peoples own ded servers, ofc there will be less hackers.

how do you figure that there will be less hackers?

It pretty much says in the post mate cant really say it any cleaner.

their control has NOTHING to do with cheats though. you can impose the same kinds of anti cheat software and still have dedicated servers. just look at TF2. Cheats will still happen but killing them can be done the same ways regardless. But without dedicated servers you have no choice but to wait till the Developers patch the game. you don't have admins that will kick cheaters till a patch comes out. I used to play Battlefield heroes before anyone could have their rent servers. you'd see cheaters all the time but you couldn't do anything about it besides leave the game. this is what's going to happen to PC MW2 as well (probably started already).
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#103 SemperFi10
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Ive tried to remain open minded about this and after having played it on my roomates computer im confident in saying its worth it.

Infinity Ward took a lot out of the PC experience. They DID take out dedicateds, they DID hurt the mod community. They also made an amazing game. While the game is lacking a lot of functionality PC gamers have come to expect its also not a throwaway. They have implemented Matchmaking and IWNET (I know you hate the idea) as well as they possibly could have. While they have 'abandoned' PC players they have not simply thrown us garbage. This isnt a 'cheap console port'. Its a PC game built upon console foundtations. While I hate the idea i appreciate they took the time to make the PC game real and not a throwaway cash cow. Thats what I like.

At the end of the day I want a developer to support the PC as much as they do consoles. As far as I can tell IW has done that here. Not what I wanted, but a hell of a lot better then I was expecting.

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So you also support the idea of paying $10 more for your games from now on?
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#104 V4LENT1NE
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="Ontain"] how do you figure that there will be less hackers?

It pretty much says in the post mate cant really say it any cleaner.

their control has NOTHING to do with cheats though. you can impose the same kinds of anti cheat software and still have dedicated servers. just look at TF2. Cheats will still happen but killing them can be done the same ways regardless. But without dedicated servers you have no choice but to wait till the Developers patch the game. you don't have admins that will kick cheaters till a patch comes out. I used to play Battlefield heroes before anyone could have their rent servers. you'd see cheaters all the time but you couldn't do anything about it besides leave the game. this is what's going to happen to PC MW2 as well (probably started already).

No admins follow there servers every day and night though. And a lot of cheaters in COD4 you just see again and again. If they can ban them and stop them from actually logging into to the game browser menu its a much bigger FU to the cheaters than a server ban. But I do agree with you on the TF2 thing, they maybe should have followed something like that instead of the way they went about it.
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#105 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"] their control has NOTHING to do with cheats though. you can impose the same kinds of anti cheat software and still have dedicated servers. just look at TF2. Cheats will still happen but killing them can be done the same ways regardless. But without dedicated servers you have no choice but to wait till the Developers patch the game. you don't have admins that will kick cheaters till a patch comes out. I used to play Battlefield heroes before anyone could have their rent servers. you'd see cheaters all the time but you couldn't do anything about it besides leave the game. this is what's going to happen to PC MW2 as well (probably started already). V4LENT1NE
No admins follow there servers every day and night though. And a lot of cheaters in COD4 you just see again and again. If they can ban them and stop them from actually logging into to the game browser menu its a much bigger FU to the cheaters than a server ban. But I do agree with you on the TF2 thing, they maybe should have followed something like that instead of the way they went about it.

MW2 is using steam's VAC for anti cheat. you can get account banned so that any server using VAC will ban you too. VAC this has NOTHING to do with dedicated servers. dedicated servers can choose to have VAC or not and admins that can server ban jerks racists and cheaters that get passed VAC. Why wouldn't you want that extra service for a server even if the admin is not on all the time?

ps. also if the admin isn't on there used to be commands to vote on kicking a player off the server.

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#106 Mello2u
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My problems playing Modern Warfare 2 multi-player on a PC are the high ping and lag that almost always occurs. For a period of two hours I was unable to get any games to start with under 110 ping. Even with 70 ping I usually get a half second to two seconds of lag. This is with a able modem with a download speed of over 20 mbs, an i7-860 clocked @3.8GHz, 8GB of DDR3 ram at 2000MHZ, and a fresh install of Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. The PC game also lack a mechanism to kick hackers who are playing. These three problems make the multi-player game unplayable 95% of the time. The single player game is great. But a single player game is not worth $60 or $50 or $40 or $30 to me. Bottom line CoD: MW2 is not worth the retail price.
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#107 teardropmina
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My problems playing Modern Warfare 2 multi-player on a PC are the high ping and lag that almost always occurs. For a period of two hours I was unable to get any games to start with under 110 ping. Even with 70 ping I usually get a half second to two seconds of lag. This is with a able modem with a download speed of over 20 mbs,...The PC game also lack a mechanism to kick hackers who are playing. These three problems make the multi-player game unplayable 95% of the time. The single player game is great. But a single player game is not worth $60 or $50 or $40 or $30 to me. Bottom line CoD: MW2 is not worth the retail price.Mello2u

we know all these prior to the game release.