***News*** Nvidia Fermi GTX300 series performance preview!!! ---REPORTED FAKE---

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#1 wklzip
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NVIDIA Pitches GeForce GTX 300 Series to Clinch Performance Crown

NVIDIA's latest DirectX 11 compliant GPU architecture, codenamed "Fermi," is getting its first consumer graphics (desktop) implementation in the form of the GeForce GTX 300 series. The nomenclature turned from being obvious to clear, with a set of company slides being leaked to the media, carrying the GeForce GTX 300 series names for the two products expected to come out first: GeForce GTX 380, and GeForce GTX 360. The three slides in public domain as of now cover three specific game benchmarks, where the two graphics cards are pitted against AMD's Radeon HD 5870 and Radeon HD 5970, being part of the company's internal tests.

Tests include Resident Evil 5 (HQ settings, 1920x1200, 8x AA, DX10), STALKER Clear Sky (Extreme quality, No AA, 1920 x 1200, DX10), and Far Cry 2 (Ultra High Quality, 1920x1200, 8x AA, DX10). Other GPUs include GeForce GTX 295 and GTX 285 for reference, just so you know how NVIDIA is pitting the two against the Radeon HD 5000 GPUs, given that the figures are already out. With all the three tests, GTX 380 emerged on top, with GTX 360 performing close to the HD 5970. A point to note, however, is that the tests were run at 1920 x 1200, and tests have shown that the higher-end HD 5000 series GPUs, particularly the HD 5970, is made for resolutions higher than 1920 x 1200. AA was also disabled in STALKER Clear Sky. NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 300 will be out in Q1 2010.

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OMG The performance is... :shock:

As expected Nvidia just pwns everything when they release a new marchitecture :)

Anyone expecting a GTX395 dual Fermi gpu? Any comments? :o

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Fake Fermi benchmarks circulating

Everyone, including NVIDIA, is on the edge of their seats waiting for the new monster graphics circuit Fermi. We know for a fact that Fermi will be bringing more than 3 billion transistors to the table, we know that the architecture is very good at GPGPU applications, but we can also conclude that Fermi or GF100 if you will, will be very fast for gaming. During the days that have passed benchmarks using two Fermi graphics cards of the GeForce GTX 300 series have started circulating.

They don't match our own information and after talking to NVIDIA we can only conclude that they are very much fake. Someone simply took one of NVIDIA's older roadmaps and edited it to present what looks like the two cards GeForce GTX 380 and GTX 360, in competition with Radeon HD 5970 and HD 5870.

NVIDIA who usually doesn't comment on product names was reluctant to discuss the identity of the cards , but the benchmarks are not real and are based on templates from old NVIDIA presentations. We won't be linking to any of the possible sources, but will of course return when and if more reliable information surfaces..

Alas, we will have to wait just a little bit longer to see what Fermi has to offer.

nordichardware

Well, it was too good to be true :(

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#2 smc91352
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Any word on cost/power requirements/etc.?
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#3 mouthforbathory
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Wow, but the cost???

Also I get this idea that the 380 IS the dual GPU card, but of course I could be mistaken, but as I just asked, the cost/performance will be a big issue here.

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#4 killab2oo5
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Phew...surely the 300 series will be HELLA expensive! Nvidia wont be releasing the lower-end model of the DX11 cards for sometime, right?
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#5 mouthforbathory
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Probably not. Hell ATi hasn't either.
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#6 killab2oo5
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Probably not. Hell ATi hasn't either.mouthforbathory
The 5750 and 5770 are ATi's lower-end DX11 cards.
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#7 Iantheone
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Just as i expected :P
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#8 smc91352
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[QUOTE="mouthforbathory"]Probably not. Hell ATi hasn't either.killab2oo5
The 5750 and 5770 are ATi's lower-end DX11 cards.

meh; that's still pretty medium range due to the price tag. The 5670 would be lower end.
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#9 clyde46
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I would wait for benchies from inderpentant sources before making a decision.

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#10 jtcraft
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I would wait for benchies from inderpentant sources before making a decision.

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I agree. I won't believe they are real benchmarks until I see reviews from multiple sites. And if they are real those cards will be very, very expensive.
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#11 mouthforbathory
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[QUOTE="mouthforbathory"]Probably not. Hell ATi hasn't either.killab2oo5
The 5750 and 5770 are ATi's lower-end DX11 cards.

There will be a 5600 family that supposedly will consist of 400 Stream Processors, and I wouldn't be surprised if they have a lower part. Honestly I expect it.
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#12 Bigsteve3570
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Even if those benchmarks are true, at least this will bump the radeon 5xxx series cards down in price. But, I have feeling nvidia will instead just shove 600-800 dollar price tags on both these things.
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#13 marcthpro
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all i know we tough of seen preview of GTX380 and it massive as a Dual GPU CARD hell As big as HD5970 if not more thick then hD5970 : we don't know of GTX360 so it suposse to based of same massive scale so they both the performances of dual gpu according this preview : nvidia win but it all up to ATI HD5890 as Very low % of Last hope Strike :

We Know by then IT will be March 2010 How Ever by release of those massive card : it still not lost but there huge chance ATI LOST sadly so it as high chance to make me buyer of Nvidia once more they Lost me a Year and regain me 2 year after ? who could have think of that ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLXfDO1u7-I : GPU WAR is like this one year nvidia is in the axis side : the second year ati is in the axis ;)

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#14 matte3560
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Probably a fake? look at the comments in there, seems there have been multiple faked slides like that.

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#15 kilerchese
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The validity of these pictures is unknown they first surfaced from the Overclockers UK forums and from there found themselves on the Guru 3D forums where Guru 3D posted a news article about it.

I repeat, the validity of these pictures is unknown.

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#16 joshott
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i doubt they are real. gtx 360 beating ati's most powerful card? doubt it. they know they need sub 200$ and sub 300$. im expecting the gtx 360 to be close to a 5870, and the gtx 380 to maybe be on par with the 5970. for the most part. nvidias naming scheme fits. witht he exception of the gtx 275 and the 280 ;)

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i told you that this is going to happen. I hope they wont be too expensive, that i can purchase 2 360s at least lol.

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I highly doubt we will see performance close to those GTX 360 frames even from the GTX 380, Nvidia knows in order to compete with ATi they need to give a better price/performance product to the consumers. Im more than certain that the GTX 380/360 will be priced similar to the competing ATi HD 5800 range of GPU's aswell as the performance. Its the extreme end that will set them appart from ATI for example the ULTRA, the GX2 and GTX 295's... Nvidia has notoriously been the victor in the ethusiast level of GPU products so I expect similar results in future.
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Phew...surely the 300 series will be HELLA expensive! Nvidia wont be releasing the lower-end model of the DX11 cards for sometime, right?killab2oo5

there wont be a low end dx11 card from nivida this year.

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#21 Daytona_178
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Iam 100% sure it wont be as good as they make out but it cant be that much off...either way it looks like they will destroy ATI's performance crown. Did someone say price cut?

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#22 NLahren
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interesting butwhat will be the costs for the new cards
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#23 jernas
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Interesting but to tell you the truth, I don't believe in this preview. No way GTX380 is gonna be that fast if it's a single gpu!

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#24 SLIisaownsystem
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Interesting but to tell you the truth, I don't believe in this preview. No way GTX380 is gonna be that fast if it's a single gpu!

jernas

normally a 5970 isnt that weak its just the horrible AMD drivers which bottlenecking this card.

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pretty interesting. when Femri is going to be released?
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#26 Daytona_178
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pretty interesting. when Femri is going to be released?GazaAli
We are going to start seeing them Q1 2010.
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#27 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]pretty interesting. when Femri is going to be released?Daytona_178
We are going to start seeing them Q1 2010.

i heard they were dealed for the end of 2010?
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#28 hartsickdiscipl
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i told you that this is going to happen. I hope they wont be too expensive, that i can purchase 2 360s at least lol.

SLIisaownsystem

I see serveral problems with this statement--

1) "This" has not happened yet.. the cards are not out, and won't be for at least a couple of months. The product is not finalized.

2) We don't even know if these specs/benchmark results are real at all. We need to wait for multiple independent-source reviews before getting too excited..

3) Based off Nvidia's prior/present offerings, a product with the development cycle/manufacturing costs/raw power of this REPORTED product will be VERY expensive.

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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]pretty interesting. when Femri is going to be released?GazaAli
We are going to start seeing them Q1 2010.

i heard they were dealed for the end of 2010?

LOL, no. NVIDIA has officially said that they will be in mass production Q1 2010...if anyone says different i would love to see a more reliable source.
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="mouthforbathory"]Probably not. Hell ATi hasn't either.smc91352
The 5750 and 5770 are ATi's lower-end DX11 cards.

meh; that's still pretty medium range due to the price tag. The 5670 would be lower end.

I'd say

5670 - low range

5750 - low/medium range

5770 - medium range

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#31 matte3560
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ATI has released their version of the benchmarks:

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#32 floridaskater05
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^lol!!!! should prob start up a poll thread on how much the new nvidia cards ar going to cost lol. i say 800-875

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#33 jamesfffan
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Looking at that I would concur the 380 appears to be the Dual-Card, considering the 5970 beats the 295 by a lot, so I think the 380 is just a little better than the 5970 in terms of performance, so the 380 dual GPU "appears" to beat the 5970 by 10 or 15 fps that's if these results are real. I'm not buying either of them lol, don't need them(nvidia/ati). Already have what I want :)

Although do not expect these new cards to be cheap!

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#34 jamesfffan
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Thought I would throw this in as real benchmarks of what I would say is the Best System you could ever build at the moment.

Badass rig with Quadfire 5970's

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#35 Swiftstrike5
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Is the GTX 380 a single chip? That would be very impressive.

Unfortunately, it will probably cost about $600+, which I'm just not willing to pay. Maybe if the GTX 360 was in the $300 range...

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#36 JigglyWiggly_
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I'm still going to buy a hd5970 lol. I need that tri-monitor support :D
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#37 XtcmeLS
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Let them be fast, lets just hope their Image Quality reaches ATIs standards. Not a fanboy, But ATI does hold the IQ crown.
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#38 GazaAli
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Let them be fast, lets just hope their Image Quality reaches ATIs standards. Not a fanboy, But ATI does hold the IQ crown.XtcmeLS
this actually may be true.
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I'm still going to buy a hd5970 lol. I need that tri-monitor support :DJigglyWiggly_

too sad but a 5970 wont be strong enough to max the graphics out in 3 monitors.

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#40 codezer0
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i told you that this is going to happen. I hope they wont be too expensive, that i can purchase 2 360s at least lol.

SLIisaownsystem
You can buy 2 360's now, silly. :P
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#41 smc91352
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[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

i told you that this is going to happen. I hope they wont be too expensive, that i can purchase 2 360s at least lol.

codezer0
You can buy 2 360's now, silly. :P

I really lolled. :P Silly SLIisaownsystem.
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#42 danishkhan
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Why not bench in DX11 mode? Either way, this looks to be promising. Now the question is price and launch date.
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#43 codezer0
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Why not bench in DX11 mode? Either way, this looks to be promising. Now the question is price and launch date.danishkhan
I guess the best way to answer that is to ask if Microsoft has actually released DirectX 11 runtimes for update to Vista and 7?
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#44 hofuldig
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these benchmarks are bias. from all the benchmarks iv seen the 5870 is usually as fast OR faster than a GTX 295. not slower. expect real world performance of ATI cards to be a little better and the Nvidia cards to be a little worse then these benchmarks show.

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#45 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]I'm still going to buy a hd5970 lol. I need that tri-monitor support :DSLIisaownsystem

too sad but a 5970 wont be strong enough to max the graphics out in 3 monitors.

Yeah it can, it can do it on games like source based ones, and maybe dirt 2. I care more about GTR2 and stuff, old games. And it has 3 outputs on it, I don't want to add a second videocard to my system.
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#46 Daytona_178
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Let them be fast, lets just hope their Image Quality reaches ATIs standards. Not a fanboy, But ATI does hold the IQ crown.XtcmeLS
WTF? Its been proven that there is no difference in picture quality...you must be confused with better monitors.
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#47 XtcmeLS
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Keep telling your self that. ATI has superior Anti Aliasing...Period.
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#48 scoots9
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]I'm still going to buy a hd5970 lol. I need that tri-monitor support :DSLIisaownsystem

too sad but a 5970 wont be strong enough to max the graphics out in 3 monitors.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21284&page=4

:roll:

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#49 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="XtcmeLS"]Let them be fast, lets just hope their Image Quality reaches ATIs standards. Not a fanboy, But ATI does hold the IQ crown.Daytona_178
WTF? Its been proven that there is no difference in picture quality...you must be confused with better monitors.

As a long-time Nvidia user and semi-fanboy.. I have to admit that I was pleasantly surprised by the IQ difference with my recently-purchased ATI card. Games just look sharper at the same AA settings with the 5870 than they ever did with my Nvidia cards. I actually saw evidence of degraded rendering quality with later Nvidia drivers, which I think is how they get better performance out of the same parts (some of which have been on the market over 2 years).

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#50 jamesfffan
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[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]I'm still going to buy a hd5970 lol. I need that tri-monitor support :Dscoots9

too sad but a 5970 wont be strong enough to max the graphics out in 3 monitors.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21284&page=4

:roll:

This.

Plus yes it's been proven time and time again Ati Do have great image quality. Going onto a non PC subject, the xbox360 with Ati graphics, the games do look sharper than the nv based ps3 games. Go read reviews comparing games on said consoles, so even them low end pffts, prove it :)