Official Nvidia 9800 GTX Specs!!!

does this mean that the 8800 GTX will be obsolete?chrisrooR

Well so far we know that only Crysis will not be able to hit max settings on it, but this is Crytek we are talking about. I doubt for the majority of PC games that the 8800 GTX will become obsolete because they are not pushing hardware like Crytek is trying to do. So unless all games are going to require that kind of power like Crysis does to get max settings, then the 8800 GTX will become obsolete in that respect, however for the majority of games it is not and will not be for some time.

[QUOTE="Killfox"]Well supposedly the 1 teraflop thing is true. Which a bunch of realiable sites have said that nvidia told them.LordEC911

Close to 1 teraflop, it won't be 1 teraflop and we don't even know how they are measuring close to 1 teraflop, if it is scalar or not(most likely not).

This is gonna b true!! we all know when things like this appears all over teh internet is cus it migthb true, and It will b a hard puch for ATI if Invidia releases a More powerfull video crad for arround $500 $600 twice powerfull than a Ultra, lol ATI will b dead,Intel is doing it with AMD releasin new processors faster and faster in short period time, Invidia seems to b doin the same thing with ATI, and again AMD AND ATI 1 step behind the others, Not good for AMD not good at all.paabss

Why do you think every little thing is going to "kill" AMD?
I have already had to tell you multiple times AMD isn't going anywhere.

yeah! 3dfx didnt went no anywhere either, lol Can u precit teh future? how do u know AMD is not going anywhere? i talk with facts, you r talking with your opinion, wich FACTS > OPINION, Number talk for themself, INTEL 83% market share, Amd just 17% Invidia 30% market share, ATI 18% market share, just google it or yahoo it, AMD shareholders want to sell off ATI, and if AMD and ATI keep releasin their products late, tehy r gonna die in short time, 3DFX released VOODOO series, the firts Video card o break 3D and it was the most popular card in the market and still an ICON, but what happened to their Succesfull company that released the greatest card ever? They simple die, why? They released their products late, Invidia were releasin new video cards b4 them, SAME SITUTATION with INTEL AND AMD, same situation with INVIDIA AND ATI,.

Intel and Invidia are releasin their producst b4 the others,This is a succesfull strategy, cus the longer the product on the market, the price will drop like Q6600 dis and others, Amd barelly will release barcelona chips, but when taht hapned Intel quad cores will b cheaper, and Intell will bring another new chip to surprass Barcelona and sink AMD.

Invidia released GEforce 8800 series, b4 ATI released their new card, Geforce series will hae a price dropp and Invidia will release a new video cards more powerfull than ATI and 8800 series,, This is war, If U.S.A and allies would waited in WWII to attack germany, the Present of this world would b different., U never give time toyour enemy to think and have more chances, This is what AMD and ATI are doin, they are givin to INtel and Invidia the cahance to release their products first and have the oportunity to drop their prices b4 them.

FACTS > OPINION,

paabss

I didn't read past that.

..Random__Guy

LOL! Nice one...

Unfortunately, its true. :(

R700 will pwn theeblacktorn

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]R700 will pwn theeDSgamer64

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

Hey hey hey leave ati alone

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]R700 will pwn theeDSgamer64

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

i've read through this thread since post 1. I've seen comments and Faqs placed here.

Some of the comments is like in post one about the Spesifications it selfe. No Spesifications has been released yet so that post is not valid. But if they are making a card like that there is no way in hell that it would have that price range becouse then they would lose money by selling them.

And the PCI-e2 thing is that its just a modded PCI-e socket. It has backwards compatabilety as previus stated. Its just made so it uses less power then the regular Socket.

And i doubt that both ATI and AMD would be pushed out that easy, its a long time since they both released something new and if i remember right is that ATI stated that the 2xxx Series are just a pre-lease for something else. and i think that AMD will come strong back with there new prosessors. They've been come this far in the competition and i doubt that they will quit like that.

My self is a Nvidia fan and a Intel fan.... so this issnt anti Intel/Nvida post hehe...;)

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]R700 will pwn theeDSgamer64

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

you have to be the dumbest person in the world. First off for a fan boy of nvidia you would think you would get your facts straight in favor of nvidia but you can even get that right. The GTX is better than the 2900xt, but the 2900xt is cheaper, and stupid it does not take 1000watts to run a 360. The power supply takes 203 watts.

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]R700 will pwn theegatorteen

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

you have to be the dumbest person in the world. First off for a fan boy of nvidia you would think you would get your facts straight in favor of nvidia but you can even get that right. The GTX is better than the 2900xt, but the 2900xt is cheaper, and stupid it does not take 1000watts to run a 360. The power supply takes 203 watts.

[QUOTE="gatorteen"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]R700 will pwn theegreatmax1

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

you have to be the dumbest person in the world. First off for a fan boy of nvidia you would think you would get your facts straight in favor of nvidia but you can even get that right. The GTX is better than the 2900xt, but the 2900xt is cheaper, and stupid it does not take 1000watts to run a 360. The power supply takes 203 watts.

Hey buddy im the guy helping you with your bsod try not making someone look dumb while ther trying to make someone look dumb. I am sorry about the 360 thing, but hes still stupid;)

1. By Q4 2007 (Xmas) NVIDIA will be releasing their GeForce 9800 series GPUs.
Unlike previously expected the codename for nVidia's next generation GPU will NOT be "G90" but instead be "G92".

I have some info form NVIDIA insider about the upcoming G92 graphics processors.

G92 will be released in November 2007 timeframe in the form of "GeForce 9800" series.

"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

Pros.

65nm process will allow for better yields and better power consumption. power consumption will be lower than that of a GeForce 8800 GTX.

GeForce 9800 GTX will be over two times faster than a GeForce 8800 Ultra in real world games and applcations.

Release date : November 2007. There will be TWO products at launch: The flagship GeForce 9800 GTX and the second fastest GeForce 9800 GTS.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTX will be 549-649 USD.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTS will be 399-449 USD.

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PSTriple4life

Wow holy ****!!!!, why would you need such a powerful graphics card by Christmas?

[QUOTE="PSTriple4life"]

1. By Q4 2007 (Xmas) NVIDIA will be releasing their GeForce 9800 series GPUs.
Unlike previously expected the codename for nVidia's next generation GPU will NOT be "G90" but instead be "G92".

I have some info form NVIDIA insider about the upcoming G92 graphics processors.

G92 will be released in November 2007 timeframe in the form of "GeForce 9800" series.

"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

Pros.

65nm process will allow for better yields and better power consumption. power consumption will be lower than that of a GeForce 8800 GTX.

GeForce 9800 GTX will be over two times faster than a GeForce 8800 Ultra in real world games and applcations.

Release date : November 2007. There will be TWO products at launch: The flagship GeForce 9800 GTX and the second fastest GeForce 9800 GTS.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTX will be 549-649 USD.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTS will be 399-449 USD.

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michael098

Wow holy ****!!!!, why would you need such a powerful graphics card by Christmas?

[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="PSTriple4life"]

1. By Q4 2007 (Xmas) NVIDIA will be releasing their GeForce 9800 series GPUs.
Unlike previously expected the codename for nVidia's next generation GPU will NOT be "G90" but instead be "G92".

I have some info form NVIDIA insider about the upcoming G92 graphics processors.

G92 will be released in November 2007 timeframe in the form of "GeForce 9800" series.

"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

Pros.

65nm process will allow for better yields and better power consumption. power consumption will be lower than that of a GeForce 8800 GTX.

GeForce 9800 GTX will be over two times faster than a GeForce 8800 Ultra in real world games and applcations.

Release date : November 2007. There will be TWO products at launch: The flagship GeForce 9800 GTX and the second fastest GeForce 9800 GTS.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTX will be 549-649 USD.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTS will be 399-449 USD.

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lettuceman44

Wow holy ****!!!!, why would you need such a powerful graphics card by Christmas?

Because its official

yeah! 3dfx didnt went no anywhere either, lol Can u precit teh future? how do u know AMD is not going anywhere? i talk with facts, you r talking with your opinion, wich FACTS > OPINION, Number talk for themself, INTEL 83% market share, Amd just 17% Invidia 30% market share, ATI 18% market share, just google it or yahoo it, AMD shareholders want to sell off ATI, and if AMD and ATI keep releasin their products late, tehy r gonna die in short time, 3DFX released VOODOO series, the firts Video card o break 3D and it was the most popular card in the market and still an ICON, but what happened to their Succesfull company that released the greatest card ever? They simple die, why? They released their products late, Invidia were releasin new video cards b4 them, SAME SITUTATION with INTEL AND AMD, same situation with INVIDIA AND ATI,.

Intel and Invidia are releasin their producst b4 the others,This is a succesfull strategy, cus the longer the product on the market, the price will drop like Q6600 dis and others, Amd barelly will release barcelona chips, but when taht hapned Intel quad cores will b cheaper, and Intell will bring another new chip to surprass Barcelona and sink AMD.

Invidia released GEforce 8800 series, b4 ATI released their new card, Geforce series will hae a price dropp and Invidia will release a new video cards more powerfull than ATI and 8800 series,, This is war, If U.S.A and allies would waited in WWII to attack germany, the Present of this world would b different., U never give time toyour enemy to think and have more chances, This is what AMD and ATI are doin, they are givin to INtel and Invidia the cahance to release their products first and have the oportunity to drop their prices b4 them.paabss

So you are trying to tell me, in your broken English and terrible punctuation, that you have a better understanding of the industry then I do? Wow...

You might want to go take some economic and business classes and then come back and try to hold an educated and intelligent discussion/debate with me. Until then your posts are nothing more then opinionated rants.

Also, the CPU and GPU industry are very, very, VERY different... but yet you are comparing them and saying they are the same...

Why are you bringing WWII into this?
Freaking HILARIOUS!!! The US did wait to enter WWII, ICUDK.

EDIT- BTW, just to let you know, I am very accurate with the vast majority of my predictions.

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]R700 will pwn theeDSgamer64

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

That's just laughable, if your post wasn't that long, you would have been sigged by someone.

Although the 2900XT power consumption is higher which in turn creates more heat than the 8800 counterparts, it in no way needs a 1000W PSU. If so, no one would buy one.

Until you can prove that the 2900XT will need a 1000W PSU - your words are complete crap.

[QUOTE="lettuceman44"][QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="PSTriple4life"]

1. By Q4 2007 (Xmas) NVIDIA will be releasing their GeForce 9800 series GPUs.
Unlike previously expected the codename for nVidia's next generation GPU will NOT be "G90" but instead be "G92".

I have some info form NVIDIA insider about the upcoming G92 graphics processors.

G92 will be released in November 2007 timeframe in the form of "GeForce 9800" series.

"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

Pros.

65nm process will allow for better yields and better power consumption. power consumption will be lower than that of a GeForce 8800 GTX.

GeForce 9800 GTX will be over two times faster than a GeForce 8800 Ultra in real world games and applcations.

Release date : November 2007. There will be TWO products at launch: The flagship GeForce 9800 GTX and the second fastest GeForce 9800 GTS.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTX will be 549-649 USD.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTS will be 399-449 USD.

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PSTriple4life

Wow holy ****!!!!, why would you need such a powerful graphics card by Christmas?

Because its official

look at source and you will know its not;)

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]R700 will pwn theeDSgamer64

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

The R700 will use 55nm technology,that uses less energy than the g90 65nm technology.

Also the R700 will use multiple small gpu's on one card,leading too far less power consumption,heat and smaller cards.

For some reason after the ati 2900 cards came out and everyone realised that the 8800 is more powerful (which it isn't in all cases) they have forgotten that ATI has made the best gpu's for the past 5 years and has been the gpu innovator and leader,Nvidia seems to copy what they do in there next gen cards,but now that Nvidia has gotten one line-up of cards right everyone thinks Ati can't produce good cards anymore,kinda ticks me off.

Because its official

PSTriple4life

[QUOTE="PSTriple4life"]

Because its official

skinnypete91

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]R700 will pwn theeblacktorn

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

The R700 will use 55nm technology,that uses less energy than the g90 65nm technology.

Also the R700 will use multiple small gpu's on one card,leading too far less power consumption,heat and smaller cards.

For some reason after the ati 2900 cards came out and everyone realised that the 8800 is more powerful (which it isn't in all cases) they have forgotten that ATI has made the best gpu's for the past 5 years and has been the gpu innovator and leader,Nvidia seems to copy what they do in there next gen cards,but now that Nvidia has gotten one line-up of cards right everyone thinks Ati can't produce good cards anymore,kinda ticks me off.

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]R700 will pwn theeblacktorn

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

The R700 will use 55nm technology,that uses less energy than the g90 65nm technology.

Also the R700 will use multiple small gpu's on one card,leading too far less power consumption,heat and smaller cards.

For some reason after the ati 2900 cards came out and everyone realised that the 8800 is more powerful (which it isn't in all cases) they have forgotten that ATI has made the best gpu's for the past 5 years and has been the gpu innovator and leader,Nvidia seems to copy what they do in there next gen cards,but now that Nvidia has gotten one line-up of cards right everyone thinks Ati can't produce good cards anymore,kinda ticks me off.

Talk about innovation, 2900 using more power and producing more heat... yeah that's the way to go!

[QUOTE="blacktorn"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]R700 will pwn theeBebi_vegeta

You will need liquid cooling and a 2000 watt PSUjust to run the best card though. :lol:

ATI sucks at making power efficient and low heating video cards that perform well, the 8800 GTX is so much better then the 2900 XT if you are looking for a card that has lower power consumption and low heating, the only difference is that there is a slight performance difference in which the 8800 GTX is weaker, aside from that though I would take a graphics card with slightly weaker performance over one that apparently requires a 1000 watt PSU and heats up like a 360 :lol:

The R700 will use 55nm technology,that uses less energy than the g90 65nm technology.

Also the R700 will use multiple small gpu's on one card,leading too far less power consumption,heat and smaller cards.

For some reason after the ati 2900 cards came out and everyone realised that the 8800 is more powerful (which it isn't in all cases) they have forgotten that ATI has made the best gpu's for the past 5 years and has been the gpu innovator and leader,Nvidia seems to copy what they do in there next gen cards,but now that Nvidia has gotten one line-up of cards right everyone thinks Ati can't produce good cards anymore,kinda ticks me off.

Talk about innovation, 2900 using more power and producing more heat... yeah that's the way to go!

Talk about innovation, 2900 using more power and producing more heat... yeah that's the way to go!Bebi_vegeta

It's power consumption scales BETTER then the G80's when comparing floating point performance.
The R600 also has more transistors then the G80.

Many believe that the R600's underlaying architecture is vastly superior to G80's. It will be interesting to see how AMD can improve on that architecture with the R700 and possibly the R800. The R700 is going to be revolutionary, we haven't seen anything like this(to my knowledge) in the recent history of GPUs.

You are shortsighted, very much like Nvidia, while on the other hand AMD/ATi seems to be looking farther down the road.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Talk about innovation, 2900 using more power and producing more heat... yeah that's the way to go!LordEC911

It's power consumption scales perfectly with the G80's when comparing floating point performance.
The R600 also has more transistors then the G80.

Many believe that the R600's underlaying architecture is vastly superior to G80's. It will be interesting to see how AMD can improve on that architecture with the R700 and possibly the R800. The R700 is going to be revolutionary, we haven't seen anything like this(to my knowledge) in the recent history of GPUs.

You are shortsighted, very much like Nvidia, while on the other hand AMD/ATi seems to be looking farther down the road.

I am what? Here goes your opinion of me that i just washed off my shoulders.

Sure it sounds superior, but does it performe better? What nothing is using it's full potential and it's ahead of it's time... who to blame?

I have no clue of what Nvidia is going to bring with G90 and up, but I will agree Ati sounds good like it did with the R600. But i'm still asking myself where is the 2900xtx?

2900 has a little more transistor and it's on 80nm vs 90nm for Nvidia

I am what? Here goes your opinion of me that i just washed off my shoulders.

Sure it sounds superior, but does it performe better? What nothing is using it's full potential and it's ahead of it's time... who to blame?

I have no clue of what Nvidia is going to bring with G90 and up, but I will agree Ati sounds good like it did with the R600. But i'm still asking myself where is the 2900xtx?Bebi_vegeta

LMAO...

Sounds superior? No...
Is superior? Yes.

You do realize that Nvidia cut lots of corners to bring out the G80? There is no denying that but do you also realize that lots of those corners Nvidia cut out is, most likely, where their additional performance comes from.

So not only is AMD/ATi fighting Goliath, who has unlimited amounts of resources and is a FUD chucking machine, but they are also fighting Napolean, who does whatever it takes to have the best current performance and doesn't care about requirements. Definitely seems like a fair fight but yet they are still keeping up on both fronts, with the possibility of a nice "comeback"(I wouldn't call it that) in the next 6 months.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]I am what? Here goes your opinion of me that i just washed off my shoulders.

Sure it sounds superior, but does it performe better? What nothing is using it's full potential and it's ahead of it's time... who to blame?

I have no clue of what Nvidia is going to bring with G90 and up, but I will agree Ati sounds good like it did with the R600. But i'm still asking myself where is the 2900xtx?LordEC911

LMAO...

Sounds superior? No...
Is superior? Yes.

You do realize that Nvidia cut lots of corners to bring out the G80? There is no denying that but do you also realize that lots of those corners Nvidia cut out is, most likely, where their additional performance comes from.

So not only is AMD/ATi fighting Goliath, who has unlimited amounts of resources and is a FUD chucking machine, but they are also fighting Napolean, who does whatever it takes to have the best current performance and doesn't care about requirements. Definitely seems like a fair fight but yet they are still keeping up on both fronts, with the possibility of a nice "comeback"(I wouldn't call it that) in the next 6 months.

Would you consider 2900xtx superior?

Would you consider 2900xtx superior? Bebi_vegeta

Architecturally, which is what we have been discussing, yes.
Why are you asking a question in which I have already answered?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Would you consider 2900xtx superior? LordEC911

Architecturally, which is what we have been discussing, yes.
Why are you asking a question in which I have already answered?

I'm trying to make the difference between "sounds superior and is superior". You like architectures of things, i like real benchmarking performance.

I hope they support the Folding project so people can combat the PS3 :D ^ And that's all that really matters.X360PS3AMD05

Not unless Nvidia has made a drastic architecture change which I don't think has happened but we will see, only 2.5 months away.

[QUOTE="LordEC911"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Would you consider 2900xtx superior? Bebi_vegeta

Architecturally, which is what we have been discussing, yes.
Why are you asking a question in which I have already answered?

I'm trying to make the difference between "sounds superior and is superior". You like architectures of things, i like real benchmarking performance.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]I am what? Here goes your opinion of me that i just washed off my shoulders.

Sure it sounds superior, but does it performe better? What nothing is using it's full potential and it's ahead of it's time... who to blame?

I have no clue of what Nvidia is going to bring with G90 and up, but I will agree Ati sounds good like it did with the R600. But i'm still asking myself where is the 2900xtx?LordEC911

LMAO...

Sounds superior? No...
Is superior? Yes.

You do realize that Nvidia cut lots of corners to bring out the G80? There is no denying that but do you also realize that lots of those corners Nvidia cut out is, most likely, where their additional performance comes from.

So not only is AMD/ATi fighting Goliath, who has unlimited amounts of resources and is a FUD chucking machine, but they are also fighting Napolean, who does whatever it takes to have the best current performance and doesn't care about requirements. Definitely seems like a fair fight but yet they are still keeping up on both fronts, with the possibility of a nice "comeback"(I wouldn't call it that) in the next 6 months.

Yup, but fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter. Nvidia yet again makes money, leads in benchies. so nobody cares if you have the most advanced car when it's getting beat on the road. ^ Yes he's a DAAMIT fanboy.X360PS3AMD05