Preload BF4 beta right now/BF4 beta discussion thread

To those who have it you can now preload it. I already did and finished it so I'm ready for October 1st. I will also download the 360 version and take screen captures with my Roxio for how well it looks, though not sure about doing the PS3 version. This would also be a nice thread to discuss the beta as well, and here's some info from here:

The Battlefield 4 Beta is a chance for PC, PS3, and Xbox 360 players not only to get an early glimpse of Battlefield 4, but also for us to run some tests and make some changes in preparation for when Battlefield 4 goes live October 29th.

• The beta is an early, test version of Battlefield 4. Players should expect to run into in-game bugs, connection problems, and other common beta issues.
• If you run into a problem, report it on the beta forums so we can work it out!

The beta will be open to all comers, on all platforms, in every language the full game will be released in. 

• Earn Battepacks containing a combination of new weapon accessories, dog tags, knives, XP boosts and other customization options to load out your soldier. 
• Continue the fight in the Siege of Shanghai, complete with full Levelution in both large and small Conquest modes, as well as Domination.
• Commander Mode will be unavailable during the beta, but lucky, eagle-eyed players might catch a glimpse of DICE employees as Commanders on live servers.

Some players are able to jump in a few days early--if they meet certain criteria--while the full, Open Beta launches on October 4th.

• Below you can find a rundown of how to access the beta and when:

You are a Battlefield 3 Premium Member
**Console players must have the Battlefield 3 Premiumlicense file installed on your system for access

Find detailed information about when and how to access the beta and details on how to check if you're already in.

Where to find the Beta:

• Origin: Check the My Games tab if you're in the closed beta. To find the Open Beta,search for Battlefield 4.
• Xbox LIVE: Find Battlefield 4 in the Featured section.
• PlayStation Network: search for Battlefield4  Store
  • Remember, you won't be able to see or download the Beta until your access period.

PC players will need a system running at least the following:

• PC players must be running a 64-bit version of Windows in order to play.
• RAM: 3GB
• Free Hard Drive Space: 30GB
• Processor: AMD Athlon X2 2.8 GHz or higher; Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz or higher
• Graphics Card: AMD Radeon 3870 or higher; NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT or higher

You'll get a chance to check out Battlelog online or grab the Battlelog App for your Andoid or iPhone to stay on top of your game.

The Battlefield 4 Beta will conclude on October 15th. Your progress will not transfer into the full game.

I'm curious to hear how the commander works and if it helps add purpose and cohesion to battles. 

Also if hit detection has been improved so those frustrating 'insta-deaths' from BF3 are gone. 

Just finished pre-loading...and now it's sitting there in my library...taunting me......to blow shit up.

I think the first thing I'm going to do is take down the tower in shanghai....or at least be inside when it happens.

I'm curious to hear how the commander works with_teeth26

Just finished pre-loading...and now it's sitting there in my library...taunting me......to blow shit up.

 

 

I think the first thing I'm going to do is take down the tower in shanghai....or at least be inside when it happens.

wis3boi

for anyone wondering, the beta is 5.6 Gb

What makes you think commander mode won't be in beta?gunmaster55555

Because EA says so, the OP is copied from the link

https://help.ea.com/ca/article/battlefield-4-beta-information

Ah yeah I read every other beta thing and assumed was same thing xD. But that is lame think that's a dumb decision by dice.gunmaster55555

why does it unlock at 1am and not midnight

Well commader won't be in this beta sadly unless you meet up with someone from DICE.mitu123

bleh so the beta is basically just BF3 with new maps and menus. Commander is the only worthwhile addition in my eyes. 

for anyone wondering, the beta is 5.6 Gb

lostrib

That is a LOT for a fricken beta

Pre-loading at 53KB/s.... how wonderful

[QUOTE="mitu123"]Well commader won't be in this beta sadly unless you meet up with someone from DICE.with_teeth26

bleh so the beta is basically just BF3 with new maps and menus. Commander is the only worthwhile addition in my eyes. 

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

for anyone wondering, the beta is 5.6 Gb

seanmcloughlin

That is a LOT for a fricken beta

Pre-loading at 53KB/s.... how wonderful

This might be a pre-order for me if the Beta has gotten my attention.

Why does it say October 4th on Battlelog?

This might be a pre-order for me if the Beta has gotten my attention.

 

Why does it say October 4th on Battlelog?

Sweetbackhair

I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitement only a Battlefield man can feel, a man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it without Caspian Border. I hope to see my friend and communicate with him using VOIP. I hope the Huangpu River is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope.

This might be a pre-order for me if the Beta has gotten my attention.

 

Why does it say October 4th on Battlelog?

Sweetbackhair

Just preloaded it and now must play the waiting game....:(

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

for anyone wondering, the beta is 5.6 Gb

seanmcloughlin

That is a LOT for a fricken beta

Pre-loading at 53KB/s.... how wonderful

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

for anyone wondering, the beta is 5.6 Gb

egger7577

That is a LOT for a fricken beta

Pre-loading at 53KB/s.... how wonderful

well BF4 system reqs state 30gb hard drive space

BF3 with DLC is ~35 GB

The beta is an early, test version of Battlefield 4. Players should expect to run into in-game bugs, connection problems, and other common beta issues.

The beta is an early, test version of Battlefield 4. Players should expect to run into in-game bugs, connection problems, and other common beta issues.yellosnolvr

actually. no. not this close to release and not with a product so similar to the last one.

a new engine, new physics, rewritten netcode, and basically redone everything and you want perfection? Tell us more about how often you do game software development

The beta is an early, test version of Battlefield 4. Players should expect to run into in-game bugs, connection problems, and other common beta issues.yellosnolvr

actually. no. not this close to release and not with a product so similar to the last one.

It may look similar on a surface level but there is a LOT of changes made to the game.

Attenion all Nvidia owenrs, download these latest drivers for the beta. I already have and is now prepared 4 battle.

Just checked to see what time it started, figuring I might stay up until Midnight to play it. Unfortunately it's not until 4am over here.

The beta supports SLI!!!

Also, new video!

Battlefield 4 - Levolution, Flood Zone and Combat Hotspots (footage of new map)

The beta supports SLI!!!

Also, new video!

Battlefield 4 - Levolution, Flood Zone and Combat Hotspots (footage of new map)

mitu123

I pray the network code is tighter. I still find myself getting shot behind walls way too often in BF3.

Let us know how it is everyone tha tis playing in the closed beta.

I just ordered the normal edition so I wont be trying the beta till the open beta starts.

Interested to see how the game turns out, if they can improve the netcode and a few other things from bf3, this could be a ton of fun.

Damn, I just upgraded my drivers last week and they've already released a beta update. I'm usually not into installing beta drivers but I guess I will have to on this one.

I pray the network code is tighter. I still find myself getting shot behind walls way too often in BF3.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]

The beta is an early, test version of Battlefield 4. Players should expect to run into in-game bugs, connection problems, and other common beta issues.seanmcloughlin

actually. no. not this close to release and not with a product so similar to the last one.

It may look similar on a surface level but there is a LOT of changes made to the game.

what have they changed? Im not trying to sound skeptical but I haven't followed the game very closely. From what little I have seen it looks extremely similar to BF3 in most ways. 

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]

The beta is an early, test version of Battlefield 4. Players should expect to run into in-game bugs, connection problems, and other common beta issues.with_teeth26

actually. no. not this close to release and not with a product so similar to the last one.

It may look similar on a surface level but there is a LOT of changes made to the game.

what have they changed? Im not trying to sound skeptical but I haven't followed the game very closely. From what little I have seen it looks extremely similar to BF3 in most ways. 

updated engine, updated netcode, 5 man squads, VOIP, commander mode, the "levolution" (bringing down skyscrapers, flooding cities, etc), and then then usual weapon changes, class changes, and vehicle changes

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]

The beta is an early, test version of Battlefield 4. Players should expect to run into in-game bugs, connection problems, and other common beta issues.with_teeth26

actually. no. not this close to release and not with a product so similar to the last one.

It may look similar on a surface level but there is a LOT of changes made to the game.

what have they changed? Im not trying to sound skeptical but I haven't followed the game very closely. From what little I have seen it looks extremely similar to BF3 in most ways. 

It can look very similar to BF3 at times just shinier. But they reworked the net code apparently and changed how the hit detection works. they also changed around the hit boxes to do more obvious damage to different places like legs have far less damage than chest shots and now there's armor to beef up your chest hit box etc etc.

The tweaked ballistics too and the balancing of weapons. Guns are far more varied now instead of a lot of guns blending together and being similar. LMGs have way more recoil but have a hugher suppression effect. Where as assault rifles are tighter firing but offer less suppression.

Suppression itself was reowrked where in close quarters it doesn't effect you at all anymore but will at longer ranges depening on the guns. 

The destruction has also been overhauled it would seem and with the levolution stuff like collapsing ceilings and blocking off pathways,turning off lights etc.

It's a lot of fine little nitty gritty details but ones that should make the game play much better

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

It may look similar on a surface level but there is a LOT of changes made to the game.

seanmcloughlin

what have they changed? Im not trying to sound skeptical but I haven't followed the game very closely. From what little I have seen it looks extremely similar to BF3 in most ways. 

It can look very similar to BF3 at times just shinier. But they reworked the net code apparently and changed how the hit detection works. they also changed around the hit boxes to do more obvious damage to different places like legs have far less damage than chest shots and now there's armor to beef up your chest hit box etc etc.

The tweaked ballistics too and the balancing of weapons. Guns are far more varied now instead of a lot of guns blending together and being similar. LMGs have way more recoil but have a hugher suppression effect. Where as assault rifles are tighter firing but offer less suppression.

Suppression itself was reowrked where in close quarters it doesn't effect you at all anymore but will at longer ranges depening on the guns. 

The destruction has also been overhauled it would seem and with the levolution stuff like collapsing ceilings and blocking off pathways,turning off lights etc.

It's a lot of fine little nitty gritty details but ones that should make the game play much better

Not sure how many people know this, but BF3 actually had a 0.9 damage multiplier for leg shots.

Hopefully suppression is better now, I was playing TDM earlier and it can be so frustrating

updated engine, updated netcode, 5 man squads, VOIP, commander mode, the "levolution" (bringing down skyscrapers, flooding cities, etc), and then then usual weapon changes, class changes, and vehicle changes

lostrib

It can look very similar to BF3 at times just shinier. But they reworked the net code apparently and changed how the hit detection works. they also changed around the hit boxes to do more obvious damage to different places like legs have far less damage than chest shots and now there's armor to beef up your chest hit box etc etc.

The tweaked ballistics too and the balancing of weapons. Guns are far more varied now instead of a lot of guns blending together and being similar. LMGs have way more recoil but have a hugher suppression effect. Where as assault rifles are tighter firing but offer less suppression.

Suppression itself was reowrked where in close quarters it doesn't effect you at all anymore but will at longer ranges depening on the guns. 

The destruction has also been overhauled it would seem and with the levolution stuff like collapsing ceilings and blocking off pathways,turning off lights etc.

It's a lot of fine little nitty gritty details but ones that should make the game play much better

seanmcloughlin

Cheers, lack of teamwork and wonky hit detection/damage were my biggest problems with BF3 and it sounds like these have been looked at. 

BF3 left such an awful taste in my mouth that I probably won't pre-order but I'll try the open beta and listen to what people have to say once it comes out. Mechanically BF3 did some things very well so I hope they manage to release something that has more personality and caters less to the sprinting-around-hip-firing-a-smg crowd that seemed to exist within BF3. 

[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]

The beta is an early, test version of Battlefield 4. Players should expect to run into in-game bugs, connection problems, and other common beta issues.wis3boi

actually. no. not this close to release and not with a product so similar to the last one.

a new engine, new physics, rewritten netcode, and basically redone everything and you want perfection? Tell us more about how often you do game software development

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

what have they changed? Im not trying to sound skeptical but I haven't followed the game very closely. From what little I have seen it looks extremely similar to BF3 in most ways. 

lostrib

It can look very similar to BF3 at times just shinier. But they reworked the net code apparently and changed how the hit detection works. they also changed around the hit boxes to do more obvious damage to different places like legs have far less damage than chest shots and now there's armor to beef up your chest hit box etc etc.

The tweaked ballistics too and the balancing of weapons. Guns are far more varied now instead of a lot of guns blending together and being similar. LMGs have way more recoil but have a hugher suppression effect. Where as assault rifles are tighter firing but offer less suppression.

Suppression itself was reowrked where in close quarters it doesn't effect you at all anymore but will at longer ranges depening on the guns. 

The destruction has also been overhauled it would seem and with the levolution stuff like collapsing ceilings and blocking off pathways,turning off lights etc.

It's a lot of fine little nitty gritty details but ones that should make the game play much better

Not sure how many people know this, but BF3 actually had a 0.9 damage multiplier for leg shots.

Hopefully suppression is better now, I was playing TDM earlier and it can be so frustrating

I remember hearing suppression was mainly an LMG/support class thing, and was vastly reduced for other class types/weapons

BF3 left such an awful taste in my mouth that I probably won't pre-order but I'll try the open beta and listen to what people have to say once it comes out. Mechanically BF3 did some things very well so I hope they manage to release something that has more personality and caters less to the sprinting-around-hip-firing-a-smg crowd that seemed to exist within BF3. 

with_teeth26

I can see teamwork being better but not as good as it was in BC2. it's still gonna be a lone wolf type of game like BF3 was where you COULD do teamwork if you wanted. Especially evident by the fact they didn't switch classes towards teamwork, they switched them towards mobility and solo play.

Assault still has med packs, support has a mobile mortar, recon now have C4 as well as support. I'm not sure how the class balance is gonna work yet but I don't see the game having more teamwork. The only thing they did towards team work is field upgrades which are kinda confusing and hard explain.

What I do like is having a small and large med pack that heal at different rates as well as quick revives not yielding 100% health but you have to charge the paddles to get 100%

I remember hearing suppression was mainly an LMG/support class thing, and was vastly reduced for other class types/weapons

wis3boi

That's exactly how it is. LMGs have the biggest supression and so do snipers I think but there's is more of a ranged supression per target where as support is sort of an area effect if they have covering fire

Supression in close quarters (<15M I think) is completely gone. So no more missing sniper shots at 5 feet away. Shooting is far more skill based now it would seem

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I remember hearing suppression was mainly an LMG/support class thing, and was vastly reduced for other class types/weapons

seanmcloughlin

That's exactly how it is. LMGs have the biggest supression and so do snipers I think but there's is more of a ranged supression per target where as support is sort of an area effect if they have covering fire

Supression in close quarters (<15M I think) is completely gone. So no more missing sniper shots at 5 feet away. Shooting is far more skill based now it would seem

thank god

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I remember hearing suppression was mainly an LMG/support class thing, and was vastly reduced for other class types/weapons

lostrib

That's exactly how it is. LMGs have the biggest supression and so do snipers I think but there's is more of a ranged supression per target where as support is sort of an area effect if they have covering fire

Supression in close quarters (<15M I think) is completely gone. So no more missing sniper shots at 5 feet away. Shooting is far more skill based now it would seem

thank god

It was a badly needed change as supression was one of the biggest talking points and the biggest controversy of BF3. It was a good idea terribly implemented

Also another thing people should know that may have been overlooked is there is a staggered reload system. You can now start a reload, switch weapons and fire and then switch back to whatever part of the reload you were in. You don't start reload animations from the start every time 

I can see teamwork being better but not as good as it was in BC2. it's still gonna be a lone wolf type of game like BF3 was where you COULD do teamwork if you wanted. Especially evident by the fact they didn't switch classes towards teamwork, they switched them towards mobility and solo play.

Assault still has med packs, support has a mobile mortar, recon now have C4 as well as support. I'm not sure how the class balance is gonna work yet but I don't see the game having more teamwork. The only thing they did towards team work is field upgrades which are kinda confusing and hard explain.

What I do like is having a small and large med pack that heal at different rates as well as quick revives not yielding 100% health but you have to charge the paddles to get 100%

seanmcloughlin

You don't think having a commander will help with teamwork? I know that a lot of BF players probably just want to run around and kill things but I'd hope having a commander giving out orders to squads might at least add some cohesion to the battle. 

 I found it profoundly frustrating playing BF3 and playing to win the game while everyone else was trying to improve their K/D ratio or get a specific ribbon. I fear it will be even more of a problem for me coming from Rising Storm where teamwork is pretty common and you are doing things with purpose rather than just running around looking for action. I find that style of multiplayer to be a special blend of boring and irritating. 

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I can see teamwork being better but not as good as it was in BC2. it's still gonna be a lone wolf type of game like BF3 was where you COULD do teamwork if you wanted. Especially evident by the fact they didn't switch classes towards teamwork, they switched them towards mobility and solo play.

Assault still has med packs, support has a mobile mortar, recon now have C4 as well as support. I'm not sure how the class balance is gonna work yet but I don't see the game having more teamwork. The only thing they did towards team work is field upgrades which are kinda confusing and hard explain.

What I do like is having a small and large med pack that heal at different rates as well as quick revives not yielding 100% health but you have to charge the paddles to get 100%

with_teeth26

You don't think having a commander will help with teamwork? I know that a lot of BF players probably just want to run around and kill things but I'd hope having a commander giving out orders to squads might at least add some cohesion to the battle. 

 I found it profoundly frustrating playing BF3 and playing to win the game while everyone else was trying to improve their K/D ratio or get a specific ribbon. I fear it will be even more of a problem for me coming from Rising Storm where teamwork is pretty common and you are doing things with purpose rather than just running around looking for action. I find that style of multiplayer to be a special blend of boring and irritating. 

commander is gonna be great, especially since the commander, unlike BF2, is not on the field with everyone else.  BF2/2142 commanders often chose the role to help themselves in battle, not the army