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#201 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Gooeykat"]

So is my CPU the bottleneck?  I have an i5 750 OC'd to 3.6 GHz

 

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Gooeykat

what's your GPU usage?

Not sure, is there a way I can tell? I have brand new card 760 gtx and I have 8gb DDR2 1600 RAM.

something like MSI afterburner or GPU-z can show you the GPU usage. 

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The game is very disorienting. Almost too much. Screen shaking is constant sometimes and it's really hard to discern where fire is coming from. The TTK is a bit quicker than BF3 and in turn it makes it that much harder to see where fire is coming from, turn and return fire or escape.

Also this is the lens flare I was talking about. It's so damn annoying. Sometimes it's more prominent and it's really weird when you're just walking along and suddenly it's like someone shines a laser in your eyes

 

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Wow apparently you can open the "battlescreen" (basically the map UI) on a second monitor, a lan connected Laptop, or a tablet while playing on the main screen

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how? I have a second monitor
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#204 FelipeInside
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The game is very disorienting. Almost too much. Screen shaking is constant sometimes and it's really hard to discern where fire is coming from. The TTK is a bit quicker than BF3 and in turn it makes it that much harder to see where fire is coming from, turn and return fire or escape.

Also this is the lens flare I was talking about. It's so damn annoying. Sometimes it's more prominent and it's really weird when you're just walking along and suddenly it's like someone shines a laser in your eyes

 

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I don't get that.... is it a contrast thing or something?
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#205 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I don't get that.... is it a contrast thing or something?FelipeInside

It's just the light blinding you as you walk passed it

Also what's the default key to switch sights? 

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#206 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

OK, I do find that if I walk through smoke, or when the big building comes down, my FPS takes a huge hit. I think I'm going straight down to 25-30 when that happens from 60. 

 

Beta is beta I guess.

 

Outside of the way better destruction, anyoen impressed wiht the graphics at all?

 

I'm getting a little bumed that these new consoles aren't the step up I wanted to see. This is supposed ot be the first "next gen" game engine, and it looks better than BF3, but not that much better.

 

I have a feeling most "next gen" games are going to fele like, same old, same old from a PC gamer's perspective :(

Elann2008

As far as I'm concerned, the new consoles catch up to Crysis 1 level of quality. Sure the hardware to max out Crysis is cheaper and more abundant these days, but consoles have basically caught up to where PCs were in 2007.

Not even close lol.

 

Well, maybe not 2007, but I don't think it would be unfair to say 2010 or so. 

 

One frustrating thing is that NO ONE is workign together. They're lone wolfing, and the onyl thing a squad appears to be good for is to spawn ahead.

 

Anyone want to team up, actually use voice chat and work together?  

 

I'm Kinthalis on EA's stupid battlewebsite thingy.

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#207 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

 

Kinthalis

 

One frustrating thing is that NO ONE is workign together. They're lone wolfing, and the onyl thing a squad appears to be good for is to spawn ahead.

 

I've noticed that is the trend now for online shooters.  Heck I even got more teamwork in COD sometimes than BF3, lol.

What I found works is playing with friends, cause then you work as a team.

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#208 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Wow apparently you can open the "battlescreen" (basically the map UI) on a second monitor, a lan connected Laptop, or a tablet while playing on the main screen

bonafidetk

how? I have a second monitor

it seems you open battlelog on the second monitor, and click battlescreen

http://i.imgur.com/wvVpY7L.png

(taken from reddit)

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#209 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="Marfoo"] As far as I'm concerned, the new consoles catch up to Crysis 1 level of quality. Sure the hardware to max out Crysis is cheaper and more abundant these days, but consoles have basically caught up to where PCs were in 2007.Kinthalis

Not even close lol.

 

Well, maybe not 2007, but I don't think it would be unfair to say 2010 or so. 

 

One frustrating thing is that NO ONE is workign together. They're lone wolfing, and the onyl thing a squad appears to be good for is to spawn ahead.

 

Anyone want to team up, actually use voice chat and work together?  

 

I'm Kinthalis on EA's stupid battlewebsite thingy.

Perhaps people don't realize that squad chat is on by default (left alt)

I wanted to talk to my squad this morning, but they were speaking spanish...

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#210 Gooeykat
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[QUOTE="Gooeykat"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

what's your GPU usage?

lostrib

Not sure, is there a way I can tell? I have brand new card 760 gtx and I have 8gb DDR2 1600 RAM.

something like MSI afterburner or GPU-z can show you the GPU usage. 

GPU load is between 57-67%, so I guess that means my cpu is holding it back.
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#211 Kinthalis
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Also, the game is STILL doing the stupid thing where it unless you have your gamepad turned on when the game boots up, it won't recognize it. EVERY other modenr game will automatically detect a new gamepad, but NOT this one.  

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#212 EXLINK
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After playing a few games of the beta...this game really feels like BF3.5 to me than a new full fledged BF4. Graphics aren't much better, at all, other than a few added effects. The lighting is annoying at times and the game feels muddy. I was hoping there would be more of an improvement. P.S. Game runs fine on my GTX 590 3GB (1.5GB VRam available) on Ultra settings at 1080p. Getting around 50-60 FPS, but my VRam is maxed out at 1463MB all the time.
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#213 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I don't get that.... is it a contrast thing or something?seanmcloughlin

It's just the light blinding you as you walk passed it

Also what's the default key to switch sights? 

the post-processing effects are through the roof, i hate it. Screen shaking, wobbling, whatever you call it. Just a terrible way to play. I hope this is just beta talking and not the final say. If it is, I'm not buying jack haha. :P
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#214 Wasdie  Moderator
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Can play on low at 40fps but I can play smooth enough to get a feel for the game.

Everything is a refinement of BF3. The shooting is tighter, movement is slower, the UI is built more around teamwork, and the level design is excellent. I need to play more but I have some good initial impressions.

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#215 FelipeInside
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Can play on low at 40fps but I can play smooth enough to get a feel for the game.

Everything is a refinement of BF3. The shooting is tighter, movement is slower, the UI is built more around teamwork, and the level design is excellent. I need to play more but I have some good initial impressions.

Wasdie

Is that a good thing?

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#216 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Can play on low at 40fps but I can play smooth enough to get a feel for the game.

Everything is a refinement of BF3. The shooting is tighter, movement is slower, the UI is built more around teamwork, and the level design is excellent. I need to play more but I have some good initial impressions.

FelipeInside

Is that a good thing?

I think it is. Will put more empahsis on vehicles and forcing people to stick together. Right now nobody is playing as a team as they are exploring the game for the first time. Teamwork will come when people learn the mecahnics.

One of the problems I had with BF3 was how fast it was. Combine that with the smaller level design and it found a really weird spot between BF2 and BC2. 

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#217 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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My CPU is running pretty hot when I play this game. Is anyone else having this issue? One of my cores went over 80 degrees. I'm kinda spooked now......
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#218 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Can play on low at 40fps but I can play smooth enough to get a feel for the game.

Everything is a refinement of BF3. The shooting is tighter, movement is slower, the UI is built more around teamwork, and the level design is excellent. I need to play more but I have some good initial impressions.

FelipeInside

Is that a good thing?

overall movement is slower.. team moving together is a bit slower overall. That's good. It isn't a mad rush to the finish line. Pushers for more teamplay, cooperative gameplay. It isn't about running and gunning, run to the finish, instant gratification bullsh!t. So yes, it's good!
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#219 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Can play on low at 40fps but I can play smooth enough to get a feel for the game.

Everything is a refinement of BF3. The shooting is tighter, movement is slower, the UI is built more around teamwork, and the level design is excellent. I need to play more but I have some good initial impressions.

Elann2008

Is that a good thing?

overall movement is slower.. team moving together is a bit slower overall. That's good. It isn't a mad rush to the finish line. Pushers for more teamplay, cooperative gameplay. It isn't about running and gunning, run to the finish, instant gratification bullsh!t. So yes, it's good!

I noticed that firefights at a distance consisted of more shooting at each other and less insta death. Led to some interesting long range engagements.

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#220 klusps
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The game is pretty much unplayable for me. Running the game between 5-15 fps and I noticed that all of my CPUs were at 100% usage. Changing the settings doesn't really do anything either. I made a short video that shows some textures problems with the beta and the poor performance issue. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOsEpeZiMVU&feature=youtu.be

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#221 darksusperia
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[QUOTE="Gooeykat"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

what's your GPU usage?

lostrib

Not sure, is there a way I can tell? I have brand new card 760 gtx and I have 8gb DDR2 1600 RAM.

something like MSI afterburner or GPU-z can show you the GPU usage. 

I wouldnt be surprised if this trend is going to continue. http://www.tweaktown.com/news/33218/battlefield-4-makes-better-use-of-8-threaded-cpus-uses-more-gpu-too/index.html
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#222 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

Is that a good thing?

Wasdie

overall movement is slower.. team moving together is a bit slower overall. That's good. It isn't a mad rush to the finish line. Pushers for more teamplay, cooperative gameplay. It isn't about running and gunning, run to the finish, instant gratification bullsh!t. So yes, it's good!

I noticed that firefights at a distance consisted of more shooting at each other and less insta death. Led to some interesting long range engagements.

Except when I play everyone is using grenade launchers, lol...

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#223 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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If you're getting performance issues while using the beta drivers make sure you roll back. Beta drivers aren't working for most people. I went back to the 320.49 drivers for NVIDIA and have almost no graphical issues.

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#224 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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If you're getting performance issues while using the beta drivers make sure you roll back. Beta drivers aren't working for most people. I went back to the 320.49 drivers for NVIDIA and have almost no graphical issues.

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Same here. Works fine now after being an unplayable stuttery mess before

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#225 lostrib
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

If you're getting performance issues while using the beta drivers make sure you roll back. Beta drivers aren't working for most people. I went back to the 320.49 drivers for NVIDIA and have almost no graphical issues.

seanmcloughlin

Same here. Works fine now after being an unplayable stuttery mess before

i tried rolling back but I got a lot of crashes

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#226 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

If you're getting performance issues while using the beta drivers make sure you roll back. Beta drivers aren't working for most people. I went back to the 320.49 drivers for NVIDIA and have almost no graphical issues.

lostrib

Same here. Works fine now after being an unplayable stuttery mess before

i tried rolling back but I got a lot of crashes

wow thanks! I will give that a try.. the BF4 beta drivers do not work any better than the most recent one before it.. so I will definitely give that a try.
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Gooeykat"] Not sure, is there a way I can tell? I have brand new card 760 gtx and I have 8gb DDR2 1600 RAM.darksusperia

something like MSI afterburner or GPU-z can show you the GPU usage. 

I wouldnt be surprised if this trend is going to continue. http://www.tweaktown.com/news/33218/battlefield-4-makes-better-use-of-8-threaded-cpus-uses-more-gpu-too/index.html

I was hoping to squeeze by with my old i5 750 a little while longer but it looks like it's time for an upgrade.
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

Is that a good thing?

Wasdie

overall movement is slower.. team moving together is a bit slower overall. That's good. It isn't a mad rush to the finish line. Pushers for more teamplay, cooperative gameplay. It isn't about running and gunning, run to the finish, instant gratification bullsh!t. So yes, it's good!

I noticed that firefights at a distance consisted of more shooting at each other and less insta death. Led to some interesting long range engagements.

I noticed that immedatiely and nearly stood up out of my chair and clapped

 

EDIT: also, going to try the game on my dekstop now instead of my laptop which nearly melted down playing it.  Let's put those 6 cores to use!

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#229 Toxic-Seahorse
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Is there still no in-game VOIP?
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#230 Wasdie  Moderator
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Stutter makes the game unplayable and I can't get those old drivers to work.

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#231 Wasdie  Moderator
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Is there still no in-game VOIP?Toxic-Seahorse

There is in-game VoiP and the commander is turned off for the beta. The commo-rose actually works now and is useful too.

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#232 Elann2008
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Is there still no in-game VOIP?Toxic-Seahorse
There is.. I heard people speak several times.
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#233 Kinthalis
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I think the Beta drivers are good for SLI systems, and bad for single GPU systems, at least based on what people are saying.

 

ALT is the default voice key.

 

I'm starting to get much better on the helis, man this game is fun! Had forgotten since BF3 wa such a long time ago.

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#234 Wasdie  Moderator
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The 320.49 drivers are more stable, but it's still really stuttery.

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#235 biggest_loser
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It seems like the game is actually playable today. I can play it on Medium and High but its not as smooth as BF3. I've been through hell with drivers lately. Right now I'm running Geforce 327.23 drivers, which came out about 2 weeks ago.
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#236 Elann2008
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The 320.49 drivers are more stable, but it's still really stuttery.

Wasdie
CONFIRMED. Thanks! Runs so smooth now.. And thanks DICE.. The Engineer is back.. my favorite class in BC2.
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[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]Is there still no in-game VOIP?Wasdie

There is in-game VoiP and the commander is turned off for the beta. The commo-rose actually works now and is useful too.

Awesome. I'll probably pick this up then.
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#238 wis3boi
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good lord...my 7970GE and my AMD X6 1100 just eat this beta alive.  13.10v2 beta drivers.  Gorgeous looking game, incredible sound, all max settings except AA...no stuttering at all.

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#239 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]Is there still no in-game VOIP?Toxic-Seahorse

There is in-game VoiP and the commander is turned off for the beta. The commo-rose actually works now and is useful too.

Awesome. I'll probably pick this up then.

I was able to get it more stable. It's the best of BF3 mixed with a lot of the great elements of BF2. It's the BF3 we should have gotten 2 years ago. Oh well, better late than ever.

Turn your network smoothing to 0% and enjoy hit detection on par with CS. I'm not kidding. It's improved that much. If they fix this stuttering it's going to be amazing at launch.

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#240 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

There is in-game VoiP and the commander is turned off for the beta. The commo-rose actually works now and is useful too.

Wasdie

Awesome. I'll probably pick this up then.

I was able to get it more stable. It's the best of BF3 mixed with a lot of the great elements of BF2. It's the BF3 we should have gotten 2 years ago. Oh well, better late than ever.

Turn your network smoothing to 0% and enjoy hit detection on par with CS. I'm not kidding. It's improved that much. If they fix this stuttering it's going to be amazing at launch.

Isn't network smoothing suppose to match your ping? So say, your ping is at 50, then your network smoothing bar should be at 50% or a tad bit over that.
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#241 BSC14
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Can't even get it to load....just a black screen.

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#242 darksusperia
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] Awesome. I'll probably pick this up then.Elann2008

I was able to get it more stable. It's the best of BF3 mixed with a lot of the great elements of BF2. It's the BF3 we should have gotten 2 years ago. Oh well, better late than ever.

Turn your network smoothing to 0% and enjoy hit detection on par with CS. I'm not kidding. It's improved that much. If they fix this stuttering it's going to be amazing at launch.

Isn't network smoothing suppose to match your ping? So say, your ping is at 50, then your network smoothing bar should be at 50% or a tad bit over that.

yes
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#243 biggest_loser
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Can someone help me with my driver problem? I have a GeforceFX 570 and I can't install the beta drivers. It won't install the graphics driver and it just resizes my screen and then Windows has to scan for my card and rolls the drivers back.

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#244 darksusperia
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Can someone help me with my driver problem? I have a GeforceFX 5700 and I can't install the beta drivers. It won't install the graphics driver and it just resizes my screen and then Windows has to scan for my card and rolls the drivers back. biggest_loser
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#245 with_teeth26
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Can someone help me with my driver problem? I have a GeforceFX 5700 and I can't install the beta drivers. It won't install the graphics driver and it just resizes my screen and then Windows has to scan for my card and rolls the drivers back. darksusperia
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he means GTX 570 i think 

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#246 silversix_
Member since 2010 • 26347 Posts
is the open beta really open or to participate you need to preorder the game (open beta on the 4rth). I really wanna try this and seep what's up with my 570+2500k combo
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#247 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I was able to get it more stable. It's the best of BF3 mixed with a lot of the great elements of BF2. It's the BF3 we should have gotten 2 years ago. Oh well, better late than ever.

Turn your network smoothing to 0% and enjoy hit detection on par with CS. I'm not kidding. It's improved that much. If they fix this stuttering it's going to be amazing at launch.

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Isn't network smoothing suppose to match your ping? So say, your ping is at 50, then your network smoothing bar should be at 50% or a tad bit over that.

yes

Thought so. I tried 0% like Wasdie recommended anyways, and it didn't make a difference. If it does for you guys, then that's good. You can always try what I said above!
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#248 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] Awesome. I'll probably pick this up then.Elann2008

I was able to get it more stable. It's the best of BF3 mixed with a lot of the great elements of BF2. It's the BF3 we should have gotten 2 years ago. Oh well, better late than ever.

Turn your network smoothing to 0% and enjoy hit detection on par with CS. I'm not kidding. It's improved that much. If they fix this stuttering it's going to be amazing at launch.

Isn't network smoothing suppose to match your ping? So say, your ping is at 50, then your network smoothing bar should be at 50% or a tad bit over that.

No.

It's bascially lag compenstation. The higher amount of smoothing you put in, the more prediction code will run smoothing out players movements. This will result in laggy hitboxes but smooth out players movements. 

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#249 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I was able to get it more stable. It's the best of BF3 mixed with a lot of the great elements of BF2. It's the BF3 we should have gotten 2 years ago. Oh well, better late than ever.

Turn your network smoothing to 0% and enjoy hit detection on par with CS. I'm not kidding. It's improved that much. If they fix this stuttering it's going to be amazing at launch.

Wasdie

Isn't network smoothing suppose to match your ping? So say, your ping is at 50, then your network smoothing bar should be at 50% or a tad bit over that.

No.

It's bascially lag compenstation. The higher amount of smoothing you put in, the more prediction code will run smoothing out players movements. This will result in laggy hitboxes but smooth out players movements. 

Well, my personal experience with it made no such improvements. I actually researched it a bit and most people say to match it to your ping. But whatever you feel is right.. doesn't matter.
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#250 nutcrackr
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Can someone help me with my driver problem? I have a GeforceFX 570 and I can't install the beta drivers. It won't install the graphics driver and it just resizes my screen and then Windows has to scan for my card and rolls the drivers back.

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Try this uninstaller? REMOVED - uninstaller sucks

Also heard reports that 320.49 works better for 500 series nvidia cards.