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#301 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] Assault: frontline soldier, medic Engineer: Vehicle support, repairs/destroys vehicles, plants mines Support: Suppressive fire, ammo dispenser, mortars, satchels Recon: Just as the name says, a scout...Long range rifles, carbines, laser tagging vehicles, sensor minesseanmcloughlin

Thanks for that. What has always turned me off about BF games is vehicles. I could be capturing a point or defusing a bomb and a tank shows up and there is no way I can win against it. I guess Engineer would be the best choice for this?

That's the point of BF. You have to anticipate and adapt. Run as a medic and you're not gonna be fighting tanks, that's the sacrifice you make by playing that class. Engineer is the vehicle class for both dealing with and repairing. Recon now have C4 as do Support so they can take out tanks too but you have to get close.

There's no "one class does everything". You have to decide what you want your role to be on the battlefield. BF is a game series where retreat is actually a better option a lot of the times. If you're overwhelmed you don't stay and hope to kill everyone. you bail out until support arrives

Thanks.  Yeah I'm used to COD where I DO stay and KILL everything, lol....

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Is there a guide to the CLASSES and what each one does or should be doing during a match? OFF-TOPIC: Flashback Remake is OUT !!! WOOP WOOP http://store.steampowered.com/app/245730/

Assault: frontline soldier, medic Engineer: Vehicle support, repairs/destroys vehicles, plants mines Support: Suppressive fire, ammo dispenser, mortars, satchels Recon: Just as the name says, a scout...Long range rifles, carbines, laser tagging vehicles, sensor mines

Thanks for that. What has always turned me off about BF games is vehicles. I could be capturing a point or defusing a bomb and a tank shows up and there is no way I can win against it. I guess Engineer would be the best choice for this?

This is why I love battlefield...you arent jack of all trades, you have a job to do.
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#303 lostrib
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] Assault: frontline soldier, medic Engineer: Vehicle support, repairs/destroys vehicles, plants mines Support: Suppressive fire, ammo dispenser, mortars, satchels Recon: Just as the name says, a scout...Long range rifles, carbines, laser tagging vehicles, sensor mineswis3boi
Thanks for that. What has always turned me off about BF games is vehicles. I could be capturing a point or defusing a bomb and a tank shows up and there is no way I can win against it. I guess Engineer would be the best choice for this?

This is why I love battlefield...you arent jack of all trades, you have a job to do.

unfortunately too many people don't do their damn jobs! PTFO 

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#304 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Thanks for that. What has always turned me off about BF games is vehicles. I could be capturing a point or defusing a bomb and a tank shows up and there is no way I can win against it. I guess Engineer would be the best choice for this?lostrib

This is why I love battlefield...you arent jack of all trades, you have a job to do.

unfortunately too many people don't do their damn jobs! PTFO 

If I buy it (or get the Beta working again) I promise I will. I'm gonna put up a Hot Dog stand for those soldiers that need a lunch break...
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Thanks for that. What has always turned me off about BF games is vehicles. I could be capturing a point or defusing a bomb and a tank shows up and there is no way I can win against it. I guess Engineer would be the best choice for this?lostrib

This is why I love battlefield...you arent jack of all trades, you have a job to do.

unfortunately too many people don't do their damn jobs! PTFO 

ive had plenty of great games today, everyone was on voip, coordinating, etc.
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#306 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"] This is why I love battlefield...you arent jack of all trades, you have a job to do. wis3boi

unfortunately too many people don't do their damn jobs! PTFO 

ive had plenty of great games today, everyone was on voip, coordinating, etc.

interesting, i haven't heard too many people on VOIP yet

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

unfortunately too many people don't do their damn jobs! PTFO 

lostrib

ive had plenty of great games today, everyone was on voip, coordinating, etc.

interesting, i haven't heard too many people on VOIP yet

its amazing when it happens.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Audio is good, I agree.... but it has some issues on 5.1 Surround, but I am aware that it's a beta so hopefully it gets patched up for launch.FelipeInside

Issues such as? I don't have 5.1 so I'm curious

Audio cutting in and out on some speakers, audio with wrong placement etc. These things happen though and that's what betas are for.

I really can't test now because the game was working fine a few days ago but now the level loads and then just says "BF has encountered an error and needs to close" :( Oh well...

PS: dude, you NEED to get 5.1.  Especially for FPS online, they make a huge difference.

I had 5.1 back on my PS3 when BC2 came out and I agree, makes a world of difference. But headphones are better I think for pure tactical advantage because they have a much more intimate and pin point sound.

Nothing beats the huge soundscape and low thundering bass of 5.1 though. I miss it dearly

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#309 gameofthering
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

unfortunately too many people don't do their damn jobs! PTFO 

lostrib

ive had plenty of great games today, everyone was on voip, coordinating, etc.

interesting, i haven't heard too many people on VOIP yet

I have... he was blasting music in the mic :(

I'll probably end up muting everybody :P 

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#310 klusps
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

unfortunately too many people don't do their damn jobs! PTFO 

lostrib

ive had plenty of great games today, everyone was on voip, coordinating, etc.

interesting, i haven't heard too many people on VOIP yet

Most likely people are still trying to get used to the game. I'm pretty sure once servers are set and communities starts forming, there will be a lot of people in VOIP. Probably the best feature DICE has implemented so far, and I'm pretty sure it would encourage a lot of teamwork, along with a lot of annoying chatter.

I believe having a actively talking & leading commander could turn the tide to a game. 

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#311 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]They need to up the graphics settings soon. I'm firing tank shells into windows and not seeing the shell explode or the window break while zoomed, stuff like this is ridiculous. That being said I dont know what role to play this time around. been playing engineer.... but RPG seems so weak against anything that isn't flying.

I agree with the zoom and visibility when using the tank. As far as engineer class, I thought it was weak in BF3. Now, I can actually take out tanks. Like you said, anything that is flying with proper aim is an easy enough takedown.
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#312 biggest_loser
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Does anyone know if DICE is going to address the brief dips in the frame rate? I can get a fairly steady frame rate between 30-40 on Medium and around 30 on high but it sometimes drops way below that for a few seconds. Are they going to clean this up?
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Ok the screen shaking is annoying as fvck. If a tank or chopper are hitting the area and your team are firing rockets back it's a mess and you can barely see or keep the gun on target. 

Another thing is trading kills shouldn't happen/ Either he killed me first or I killed him, not both at the same time. It's happened a dozen times to me

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#314 nutcrackr
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RPG vs PLD lazed tank = two shots dead. Quite amazing really. Once you unlock more rockets for that thing, tanks are going to need those anti-rocket countermeasures and reactive armor perks.

Best audio change for me is how good the choppers sound at a distance around the skyscrapers.

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#315 lostrib
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Does anyone know if DICE is going to address the brief dips in the frame rate? I can get a fairly steady frame rate between 30-40 on Medium and around 30 on high but it sometimes drops way below that for a few seconds. Are they going to clean this up? biggest_loser

it's beta, the performance isn't final

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#316 bobbetybob
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Ok the screen shaking is annoying as fvck. If a tank or chopper are hitting the area and your team are firing rockets back it's a mess and you can barely see or keep the gun on target. 

Another thing is trading kills shouldn't happen/ Either he killed me first or I killed him, not both at the same time. It's happened a dozen times to me

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Yeah I dislike that too. One thing for everyone to remember is make you sure you've set your network smoothing to 0, that helped me so much in 3 and I'd forgotten to do it in the beta at first.
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#317 lostrib
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Ok the screen shaking is annoying as fvck. If a tank or chopper are hitting the area and your team are firing rockets back it's a mess and you can barely see or keep the gun on target. 

Another thing is trading kills shouldn't happen/ Either he killed me first or I killed him, not both at the same time. It's happened a dozen times to me

bobbetybob

Yeah I dislike that too. One thing for everyone to remember is make you sure you've set your network smoothing to 0, that helped me so much in 3 and I'd forgotten to do it in the beta at first.

if you set it too low you may see glitchy animations 

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#318 gameofthering
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How do you set your location on the leaderboard map thing? It's placed me in Ireland... I'm from Scotland :x

EDIT : Nevermind. I found out :)

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Since im running SLI I found that the latest drivers can be stable. It's really a problem with sound rendering. Whenever a new, unique sound is rendered I find my GPUs run at like 40% down from the 80% they were running at. This happens frequently in fights so it gets really choppy.

I wonder if I can do anything to improve this.

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Tried a soundcard maybe?
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#320 Elann2008
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Ok the screen shaking is annoying as fvck. If a tank or chopper are hitting the area and your team are firing rockets back it's a mess and you can barely see or keep the gun on target. 

Another thing is trading kills shouldn't happen/ Either he killed me first or I killed him, not both at the same time. It's happened a dozen times to me

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Yup. I agree. I've had all of this happen to me on several occasions. The camera shaking is beyond.. i don't even want to say. If that can't be turned off in final release.. i don't know what to say man haha.
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Ok the screen shaking is annoying as fvck. If a tank or chopper are hitting the area and your team are firing rockets back it's a mess and you can barely see or keep the gun on target. 

Another thing is trading kills shouldn't happen/ Either he killed me first or I killed him, not both at the same time. It's happened a dozen times to me

lostrib

Yeah I dislike that too. One thing for everyone to remember is make you sure you've set your network smoothing to 0, that helped me so much in 3 and I'd forgotten to do it in the beta at first.

if you set it too low you may see glitchy animations 

Doesn't bother me, it's mostly just people skipping due to lag as far as I've noticed and even that's rare. I'll take that over shots missing because people aren't showing up in the right place any day.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Ok the screen shaking is annoying as fvck. If a tank or chopper are hitting the area and your team are firing rockets back it's a mess and you can barely see or keep the gun on target. 

Another thing is trading kills shouldn't happen/ Either he killed me first or I killed him, not both at the same time. It's happened a dozen times to me

Elann2008
Yup. I agree. I've had all of this happen to me on several occasions. The camera shaking is beyond.. i don't even want to say. If that can't be turned off in final release.. i don't know what to say man haha.

double kills is the common tradeoff from having actual bullet physics and travel time unfortunately
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Ok the screen shaking is annoying as fvck. If a tank or chopper are hitting the area and your team are firing rockets back it's a mess and you can barely see or keep the gun on target. 

Another thing is trading kills shouldn't happen/ Either he killed me first or I killed him, not both at the same time. It's happened a dozen times to me

wis3boi

Yup. I agree. I've had all of this happen to me on several occasions. The camera shaking is beyond.. i don't even want to say. If that can't be turned off in final release.. i don't know what to say man haha.

double kills is the common tradeoff from having actual bullet physics and travel time unfortunately

At distance I'd be fine with it except it's happened at least 3 times where we were about 10 feet apart. 

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#324 lostrib
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has anyone played with the resolution scale?

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#325 wis3boi
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has anyone played with the resolution scale?

lostrib
I havent, but i should...will do that now
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

has anyone played with the resolution scale?

wis3boi

I havent, but i should...will do that now

i would if it weren't for the already spotty performance

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so apparently you can just unlock random mastery dog tags for weapons not in the beta

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#328 nutcrackr
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has anyone played with the resolution scale?

lostrib
I have, it's a very cool feature. Just like supersampling and subsampling. Planetside 2 has it also I think and other games. 200% looks amazing, no jaggies to be found. If you are having trouble with performance, 80-90% for the resolution scale is a nice boost in framerate for minor visual degradation. WIth 2xMSAA you will hardly notice the difference and get a good boost in framerate. Looks funny at 25% :P
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so apparently you can just unlock random mastery dog tags for weapons not in the beta

lostrib

There's a bunch of stuff you can't get normally and have to get in battlepacks

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#330 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

so apparently you can just unlock random mastery dog tags for weapons not in the beta

seanmcloughlin

There's a bunch of stuff you can't get normally and have to get in battlepacks

no i mean I was using the AK5C carbine and got multiple mastery dog tag unlocks (not a battlepack) for things like the 1911 pistol and the M416

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

so apparently you can just unlock random mastery dog tags for weapons not in the beta

lostrib

There's a bunch of stuff you can't get normally and have to get in battlepacks

no i mean I was using the AK5C carbine and got multiple mastery dog tag unlocks (not a battlepack) for things like the 1911 pistol and the M416

Oh.... that's weird

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#332 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

There's a bunch of stuff you can't get normally and have to get in battlepacks

seanmcloughlin

no i mean I was using the AK5C carbine and got multiple mastery dog tag unlocks (not a battlepack) for things like the 1911 pistol and the M416

Oh.... that's weird

yeah...

However, I unlocked the ACW-R and damn it fires fast

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

no i mean I was using the AK5C carbine and got multiple mastery dog tag unlocks (not a battlepack) for things like the 1911 pistol and the M416

lostrib

Oh.... that's weird

yeah...

However, I unlocked the ACW-R and damn it fires fast

As it should. It was a decent weapon in BF3 but a bit of a filler weapon.I haven't had a lot of time to play so I'm still rocking the stock guns

You know what I hate about the new UI? When you go to switch weapons it isn't a drop down box like it looks like it should be, like BC2s. It pulls you out of the map screen and to another one where things are a bit messy looking. When you click the gun a drop down menu full of guns should show up  instead of teleporting me to the entire loadout screen. I only want to change one gun after all

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Oh.... that's weird

seanmcloughlin

yeah...

However, I unlocked the ACW-R and damn it fires fast

As it should. It was a decent weapon in BF3 but a bit of a filler weapon.I haven't had a lot of time to play so I'm still rocking the stock guns

You know what I hate about the new UI? When you go to switch weapons it isn't a drop down box like it looks like it should be, like BC2s. It pulls you out of the map screen and to another one where things are a bit messy looking. When you click the gun a drop down menu full of guns should show up  instead of teleporting me to the entire loadout screen. I only want to change one gun after all

Well it fires faster than the BF3 version, with the higher damage model and a slight bump to ammo

yeah, I thought BF3 method was decent for switching guns since everytime you change guns you don't need to go into the customization menu or something

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Posting this from the other thread:

"The #BF4 PC beta is a beta, not all graphics options are hooked up or tweaked yet and performance is not final. But please do test the game .... but graphics at release will be better and/or faster so you should be good"

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#336 mitu123
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The 320.49 drivers are more stable, but it's still really stuttery.

Wasdie

This, it still stutters even when I use them, and performance isn't ideally for me either, but I think it's better than 331.40 drivers at least.

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#337 Elann2008
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Posting this from the other thread:

"The #BF4 PC beta is a beta, not all graphics options are hooked up or tweaked yet and performance is not final. But please do test the game .... but graphics at release will be better and/or faster so you should be good"

mitu123
Yeah, that's a given. But I do appreciate the heads up. Some people just don't understand it's BETA... BUT... i worry about some of the visual features like camera shaking..
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

has anyone played with the resolution scale?

nutcrackr

I have, it's a very cool feature. Just like supersampling and subsampling. Planetside 2 has it also I think and other games. 200% looks amazing, no jaggies to be found. If you are having trouble with performance, 80-90% for the resolution scale is a nice boost in framerate for minor visual degradation. WIth 2xMSAA you will hardly notice the difference and get a good boost in framerate. Looks funny at 25% :P

Company of Heroes 2 has it and turning it up makes everything looks very crisp and clear. I know BF3 looked slightly fuzzy at times so I'm sure it looks phenomenal with a higher resolution scale. 

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Posting this from the other thread:

"The #BF4 PC beta is a beta, not all graphics options are hooked up or tweaked yet and performance is not final. But please do test the game .... but graphics at release will be better and/or faster so you should be good"

mitu123

Well duh, my issues aren't performance or visuals my issue is the camera shaking way too much and trading kills with guys 10 feet away

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#340 FelipeInside
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I like Domination cause there are no vehicles, will the final version have this mode too? (no vehicles)
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#342 darksusperia
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I like Domination cause there are no vehicles, will the final version have this mode too? (no vehicles) FelipeInside
yes http://blogs.battlefield.com/2013/09/road-to-bf4-game-modes/
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Anyone knows, this live full bf4 downloader still working? http://fileml.com/file/0S6MMtprays1
Lol
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#345 nutcrackr
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I like Domination cause there are no vehicles, will the final version have this mode too? (no vehicles) FelipeInside
Domination and Defuse (5v5) are two modes without vehicles.
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#346 mitu123
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I like Domination cause there are no vehicles, will the final version have this mode too? (no vehicles) FelipeInside
If you like that mode, you'll also like Defuse and Team Deathmatch due to no vehicles.
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#347 mitu123
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Now I seem to be getting a lot better performance having v-sync on, in all settings except Ultra I get 30-50FPS on average with some drops into 20s on High, while Ultra is 20-35 on average, and I'm using different drivers, I'm pleased right. Either way what an improvement.

Highest VRAM I seen so far is 2.3GB VRAM.

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#348 nutcrackr
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Had some really good matches tonight. This is going to be exciting when all the gadgets and commander mode is included. Took a little while to get used to the controls / weapons, but now I'm really enjoying them. Love descending on flags in the map, love taking down snipers on towers :D
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#349 Miroku32
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Well, I played BF4 again a little and now I'm finally enjoying it.
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#350 BSC14
Member since 2002 • 4187 Posts

Got to play, ran terrible for me.

I'm sure it will be better when it's finished.