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#101 Hellsing2o2
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*sigh* I really want a new computer. I'm still stuck with this horrendous pile of crap I'm using right now, this PC isin't good enough to be used as a door stop...

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#102 JigglyWiggly_
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*sigh* I really want a new computer. I'm still stuck with this horrendous pile of crap I'm using right now, this PC isin't good enough to be used as a door stop...

Hellsing2o2
Sarcasm...? I'll take it.
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#103 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

*sigh* I really want a new computer. I'm still stuck with this horrendous pile of crap I'm using right now, this PC isin't good enough to be used as a door stop...

JigglyWiggly_
Sarcasm...? I'll take it.

Seriously Helsing, I wouldn't call the system in your sig crap.
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#104 C_Rule
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*sigh* I really want a new computer. I'm still stuck with this horrendous pile of crap I'm using right now, this PC isin't good enough to be used as a door stop...

Hellsing2o2
I think you might be underselling your PC... Just a bit. I use to have that CPU and it OC'd like a boss. 3.4GHz (from 2.66) on stock voltage. Had an 8800 too, but mine was only a GT. Your 2GB RAM would be a bottleneck, though. Add another 2GB.
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#105 Hellsing2o2
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[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

*sigh* I really want a new computer. I'm still stuck with this horrendous pile of crap I'm using right now, this PC isin't good enough to be used as a door stop...

JigglyWiggly_

Sarcasm...? I'll take it.

Half sarcasm. I also looked at benchmarks of the new 6970, and the GTX 580, and my vid card was far and away dead last in every test. So was my CPU.

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#106 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

*sigh* I really want a new computer. I'm still stuck with this horrendous pile of crap I'm using right now, this PC isin't good enough to be used as a door stop...

Sarcasm...? I'll take it.

Half sarcasm. I also looked at benchmarks of the new 6970, and the GTX 580, and my vid card was far and away dead last in every test. So was my CPU.

Well you have dated hardware, but to call it garbage is a bit extreme if you ask me. No matter how old it gets, I will never consider the 8800 gtx garbage. Nor would I consider a C2D garbage.
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#107 Hellsing2o2
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[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] Sarcasm...? I'll take it.millerlight89

Half sarcasm. I also looked at benchmarks of the new 6970, and the GTX 580, and my vid card was far and away dead last in every test. So was my CPU.

Well you have dated hardware, but to call it garbage is a bit extreme if you ask me. No matter how old it gets, I will never consider the 8800 gtx garbage. Nor would I consider a C2D garbage.

Well technically they are not garbage, just REALLY old. If I get a new gaming PC this year, I'll give this one to my mom LOL

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#108 Hellsing2o2
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[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

*sigh* I really want a new computer. I'm still stuck with this horrendous pile of crap I'm using right now, this PC isin't good enough to be used as a door stop...

C_Rule

I think you might be underselling your PC... Just a bit. I use to have that CPU and it OC'd like a boss. 3.4GHz (from 2.66) on stock voltage. Had an 8800 too, but mine was only a GT. Your 2GB RAM would be a bottleneck, though. Add another 2GB.

I'm not gonna bother with it anymore, it's just not worth spending anymore money on.

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#109 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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*sigh* I really want a new computer. I'm still stuck with this horrendous pile of crap I'm using right now, this PC isin't good enough to be used as a door stop...

Hellsing2o2
I'll make you a deal, i will buy your "horrendous pile of crap" for the price of a door stop +50%.
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#110 Hellsing2o2
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[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

*sigh* I really want a new computer. I'm still stuck with this horrendous pile of crap I'm using right now, this PC isin't good enough to be used as a door stop...

ferret-gamer

I'll make you a deal, i will buy your "horrendous pile of crap" for the price of a door stop +50%.

ok, 25 cents then.

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#111 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

*sigh* I really want a new computer. I'm still stuck with this horrendous pile of crap I'm using right now, this PC isin't good enough to be used as a door stop...

Hellsing2o2

I'll make you a deal, i will buy your "horrendous pile of crap" for the price of a door stop +50%.

ok, 25 cents then.

Deal. (I will actually buy that from you for the price of a door stop and some)
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#112 Hellsing2o2
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[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] I'll make you a deal, i will buy your "horrendous pile of crap" for the price of a door stop +50%.ferret-gamer

ok, 25 cents then.

Deal. (I will actually buy that from you for the price of a door stop and some)

I don't know why you would WANT to buy it, you rig is already a billion times better lol. Anyways, was kidding of course, 25 cents is about all it's worth though XD

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#113 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

ok, 25 cents then.

Hellsing2o2

Deal. (I will actually buy that from you for the price of a door stop and some)

I don't know why you would WANT to buy it, you rig is already a billion times better lol. Anyways, was kidding of course, 25 cents is about all it's worth though XD

Would make a good tf2 server. And i want the case. so up the offer I go .50cents.
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#114 Bikouchu35
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Lol, just so you know that I was playing Black Ops with 8800gts a week ago and it plays fine. Just add 2gb of ram if your feeling iffy with the setup, thatll give it new life just like it did to mines.

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#115 Bebi_vegeta
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Man I hate this!

I just got this X58 mobo with 920 Intel CPU... now I need a new mobo for sandy bridge doesn't work with 1366 socket!

It only has 4 cores... high end will get 6 cores but no GPU... euhhhhh.

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#116 BluRayHiDef
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Man I hate this!

I just got this X58 mobo with 920 Intel CPU... now I need a new mobo for sandy bridge doesn't work with 1366 socket!

It only has 4 cores... high end will get 6 cores but no GPU... euhhhhh.

Bebi_vegeta

There's no point in upgrading from an i7-920 to a Sandy bridge chip. I'd say that if you had a Core 2 Quad or weaker, than it would be worth it. Otherwise, it's not.

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#117 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Man I hate this!

I just got this X58 mobo with 920 Intel CPU... now I need a new mobo for sandy bridge doesn't work with 1366 socket!

It only has 4 cores... high end will get 6 cores but no GPU... euhhhhh.

BluRayHiDef

There's no point in upgrading from an i7-920 to a Sandy bridge chip. I'd say that if you had a Core 2 Quad or weaker, than it would be worth it. Otherwise, it's not.

I know, but I just hate the fact that Intel is killing sockets so quickly...

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#118 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Man I hate this!

I just got this X58 mobo with 920 Intel CPU... now I need a new mobo for sandy bridge doesn't work with 1366 socket!

It only has 4 cores... high end will get 6 cores but no GPU... euhhhhh.

Bebi_vegeta

There's no point in upgrading from an i7-920 to a Sandy bridge chip. I'd say that if you had a Core 2 Quad or weaker, than it would be worth it. Otherwise, it's not.

I know, but I just hate the fact that Intel is killing sockets so quickly...

The fact that they'll stop supporting a socket doesn't really matter once you've already obtained a CPU and board for that particular socket. It's not as if there still won't be boards for the socket available on the market, if you decide to get a new one.

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#119 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

There's no point in upgrading from an i7-920 to a Sandy bridge chip. I'd say that if you had a Core 2 Quad or weaker, than it would be worth it. Otherwise, it's not.

BluRayHiDef

I know, but I just hate the fact that Intel is killing sockets so quickly...

The fact that they'll stop supporting a socket doesn't really matter once you've already obtained a CPU and board for that particular socket. It's not as if there still won't be boards for the socket available on the market, if you decide to get a new one.

I'm just saying, my next upgrade for CPU will require a new mobo... meaning costing alot more money. That's what I mean about " I hate Intel for killing socket to quickly".

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#120 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I know, but I just hate the fact that Intel is killing sockets so quickly...

Bebi_vegeta

The fact that they'll stop supporting a socket doesn't really matter once you've already obtained a CPU and board for that particular socket. It's not as if there still won't be boards for the socket available on the market, if you decide to get a new one.

I'm just saying, my next upgrade for CPU will require a new mobo... meaning costing alot more money. That's what I mean about " I hate Intel for killing socket to quickly".

Ah, okay.

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#121 Urworstnhtmare
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Have we really seen what AMD is bringing to the table? Im really impressed with these chips, but I would actually like to see if AMD's new chips can exchange blows with these?

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#122 BluRayHiDef
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Have we really seen what AMD is bringing to the table? Im really impressed with these chips, but I would actually like to see if AMD's new chips can exchange blows with these?

Urworstnhtmare

If AMD's chips won't be able to exchange blows with these in terms of performance, you can be sure that they'll be able to do so in terms of prices.

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#123 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

Have we really seen what AMD is bringing to the table? Im really impressed with these chips, but I would actually like to see if AMD's new chips can exchange blows with these?

BluRayHiDef

If AMD's chips won't be able to exchange blows with these in terms of performance, you can be sure that they'll be able to do so in terms of prices.

Well, they are bringing back "FX", so someone in AMD must be impressed with Bulldozer. Of course only time will tell.
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#124 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

Have we really seen what AMD is bringing to the table? Im really impressed with these chips, but I would actually like to see if AMD's new chips can exchange blows with these?

Marfoo

If AMD's chips won't be able to exchange blows with these in terms of performance, you can be sure that they'll be able to do so in terms of prices.

Well, they are bringing back "FX", so someone in AMD must be impressed with Bulldozer. Of course only time will tell.

Is it true that Bulldozer is aimed at workstations and not gaming users? I remember reading that somewhere but I cant be sure its thats rubbish or not. *goes off to do research*
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#125 Daytona_178
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Ignore my previous comment, Bulldozer is also aimed at gaming!

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#126 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

If AMD's chips won't be able to exchange blows with these in terms of performance, you can be sure that they'll be able to do so in terms of prices.

Daytona_178

Well, they are bringing back "FX", so someone in AMD must be impressed with Bulldozer. Of course only time will tell.

Is it true that Bulldozer is aimed at workstations and not gaming users? I remember reading that somewhere but I cant be sure its thats rubbish or not. *goes off to do research*

Does PC gaming make up for much of Intel, AMD and nVIDIA's revenue?

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#127 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="Marfoo"] Well, they are bringing back "FX", so someone in AMD must be impressed with Bulldozer. Of course only time will tell.C_Rule

Is it true that Bulldozer is aimed at workstations and not gaming users? I remember reading that somewhere but I cant be sure its thats rubbish or not. *goes off to do research*

Does PC gaming make up for much of Intel, AMD and nVIDIA's revenue?

To be honest I have NO idea how much of their sales comes from gaming systems. I mean they probably sell a LOT more general user components, but obviously they make less profit on those.
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#128 Rickylee
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I know, but I just hate the fact that Intel is killing sockets so quickly...

Bebi_vegeta

The fact that they'll stop supporting a socket doesn't really matter once you've already obtained a CPU and board for that particular socket. It's not as if there still won't be boards for the socket available on the market, if you decide to get a new one.

I'm just saying, my next upgrade for CPU will require a new mobo... meaning costing alot more money. That's what I mean about " I hate Intel for killing socket to quickly".

That's interesting about kiling sockets. I always seem to buy new MBs with new a processors. I'll give you though that 775 has been around a very long time and I may have made an exception but I got into that socket late. Of course I rarely just upgrade unless something like my video card just craps out. I usually just build a new rig. It seems that the timing of this new hardware works out for me.:)

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#129 Marfoo
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Man, LGA 775 was a good socket. Went all the way from single core Pentium IV's to the quad core beast I have in my machine. It's too bad we don't see that kind of progress over a single socket anymore.
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#130 Solid_Tango
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So what about the DRM and the killswitch? are those things even real ?
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#131 Meat_Wad_Fan
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Meh I just built a rig with a Phenom II 955, hoping it will last me atleast 3 years:? I'll try to resist the temptation, hopefully AMD comes out with something that can compete, and hopefully I can just upgrade my cpu and keep the rest of my components. I read that the future AMD cpu's will be compatible with current AM3 mb's.

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#132 entropyecho
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I read that the future AMD cpu's will be compatible with current AM3 mb's.

Meat_Wad_Fan

I thought they would be AM3+ and therefore not compatible. :?

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#133 Mr_BillGates
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Meh I just built a rig with a Phenom II 955, hoping it will last me atleast 3 years:? I'll try to resist the temptation, hopefully AMD comes out with something that can compete, and hopefully I can just upgrade my cpu and keep the rest of my components. I read that the future AMD cpu's will be compatible with current AM3 mb's.

Meat_Wad_Fan
Bulldozer requires need socket as well. Heh.
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#134 Marfoo
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So what about the DRM and the killswitch? are those things even real ?Solid_Tango
The DRM thing is just a unique serial number on the processor that will allow you access services certain content providers, not to block you from doing anything. The killswitch is also real and it's more of a data security feature for perhaps government use. It could be used if the CPU sees it's being tampered with to shut down the system to avoid further tampering.
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#135 Urworstnhtmare
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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]So what about the DRM and the killswitch? are those things even real ?Marfoo
The DRM thing is just a unique serial number on the processor that will allow you access services certain content providers, not to block you from doing anything. The killswitch is also real and it's more of a data security feature for perhaps government use. It could be used if the CPU sees it's being tampered with to shut down the system to avoid further tampering.

How would it be useful for government use? If some one is truly trying to steal something, they will just steal the data or HDDs, whether or not the CPU is working. If a government laptop goes missing, this killswitch is not going to help. I can only see it working for offsite thefts, but that is what a fire wall is for, not cripplig a computer....

Well aparently the DRM only apllies to Intel Insider or whatever, which Im am fine with, because I would never use it. What scares me is:

a) They can implement such a system along with a wireless kill switch. -It only takes one rotten Intel imployer for the killswitch to go badly wrong. Or some kid hacking Intel...

b) If they can implement such a system, what will they do next with it? Any potential sales they might lose out on, could be offset by companies paying Intel to add a wider DRM to cover their products...

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#136 Bebi_vegeta
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if sandy bridge was compatible 1366, I would of replaced my 920. I guess I'll skip this one...

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#137 Urworstnhtmare
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if sandy bridge was compatible 1366, I would of replaced my 920. I guess I'll skip this one...

Bebi_vegeta

As said before numerous time, this is the right choice. There is no reason for upgrading if you already have an i7....

That is unless your trying to do some MASSIVE number crunching to find the meaning of life or something. I will save you the money and the time. Its 42 :P

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#138 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

if sandy bridge was compatible 1366, I would of replaced my 920. I guess I'll skip this one...

Urworstnhtmare

As said before numerous time, this is the right choice. There is no reason for upgrading if you already have an i7....

That is unless your trying to do some MASSIVE number crunching to find the meaning of life or something. I will save you the money and the time. Its 42 :P

LOL!!!!

Nah, I just wanted that overclocking monster.

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#139 DJ_Headshot
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I'll stick with my i7 for a few more years.
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#140 jedikevin2
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[QUOTE="Meat_Wad_Fan"]

Meh I just built a rig with a Phenom II 955, hoping it will last me atleast 3 years:? I'll try to resist the temptation, hopefully AMD comes out with something that can compete, and hopefully I can just upgrade my cpu and keep the rest of my components. I read that the future AMD cpu's will be compatible with current AM3 mb's.

Mr_BillGates

Bulldozer requires need socket as well. Heh.

Yap bulldozer will be on AM3+ but the board will also be fully backward compatable with older AMD CPU's which is nice and will allow folks on budgets to consider upgradability to pc... Bulldozer should be nice.. Now that AMD will finally get all the instruction sets (or almost all) as Intel including SSE4.1 and 4.2.... performance should be pretty good. The question will be if AMD chips will be able to do some extras well like instant 2 core boost to some crazy lol ghz range or have great architexture... Personally, i'm thinking bulldozer will lag behind intel (offcourse) but price will be very nice with a motherboard that will not be expensive (80-180 dollars from budget mobo to high end I say).

I love the fact that the Am3+ board will be backward compatable... It allows me a base of scalability on he rig I have now... I have 0 intention of upgrading in a year or even 2 or 3 but when that time comes, I will have the option to do a slow upgrade (mobo and keep all parts followed by cpu years later) which won't hurt the pocket as much.

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#141 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]So what about the DRM and the killswitch? are those things even real ?Urworstnhtmare

The DRM thing is just a unique serial number on the processor that will allow you access services certain content providers, not to block you from doing anything. The killswitch is also real and it's more of a data security feature for perhaps government use. It could be used if the CPU sees it's being tampered with to shut down the system to avoid further tampering.

How would it be useful for government use? If some one is truly trying to steal something, they will just steal the data or HDDs, whether or not the CPU is working. If a government laptop goes missing, this killswitch is not going to help. I can only see it working for offsite thefts, but that is what a fire wall is for, not cripplig a computer....

Well aparently the DRM only apllies to Intel Insider or whatever, which Im am fine with, because I would never use it. What scares me is:

a) They can implement such a system along with a wireless kill switch. -It only takes one rotten Intel imployer for the killswitch to go badly wrong. Or some kid hacking Intel...

b) If they can implement such a system, what will they do next with it? Any potential sales they might lose out on, could be offset by companies paying Intel to add a wider DRM to cover their products...

Haha, you sound paranoid. If Intel screws up we'll all just buy AMD. If they both screw up maybe VIA will rise to the occasion. Consumer controls the market, don't like it, don't buy it. The company hurts and is forced to change.
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#142 commander1122
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how about a q6600...issit worth to upgrade an i5 2500k?....and if i plant to upgrade my graphic card to GTX 580?

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#143 Elann2008
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I don't mean to be naive but can someone tell me why a person with a high-end computer would need to upgrade to Sandy Bridge if they're only using their PC for gaming? I'm being serious. I just want the quick low-down. Thanks.