Star Wars: The Old Republic - Megathread/Discussion [Release Day is Upon Us]

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#251 DanielDust
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They really need to work on the textures.

Artekus
Last thing it needs from all the gameplay I saw, it "really" needs more polish on pretty much everything except textures and voice.
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#252 Artekus
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[QUOTE="Artekus"]

They really need to work on the textures.

DanielDust

Last thing it needs from all the gameplay I saw, it "really" needs more polish on pretty much everything except textures and voice.

Meh, It's one of the things that got on my nerves when looking at some of my character gear.

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#253 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="Artekus"]

They really need to work on the textures.

Artekus

Last thing it needs from all the gameplay I saw, it "really" needs more polish on pretty much everything except textures and voice.

Meh, It's one of the things that got on my nerves when looking at some of my character gear.

Yeah the character gear is really, really low-res.
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#254 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"] Any major differences from beta?

Nothing major from what I can tell. A few bugs fixed and some things working better in my 6hrs of playtime. I am on Bondar Crystal republic side atm. I was going Sith but most of my friends are republic and dont want to play alone. =/

Do they have AA enabled? Has the framerate at least being fixed?

Framerate has never been a issue for me cause the game isnt really hardware intensive. Id post a screenshot of the settings but having trouble uploading a picture to this crappy forum.
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#255 kokonut1971
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does anyone know why the regular pc digital version is temporary unavailable?

I was thinking of doing a pre-order and hopefully get early access but the site says the regular version is temporarily unavailable and i sure as hell dont wanna pony up for the deluxe version for trinkets that wont matter later.

I guess they cant cope with the demand and closed the order fore regular version but it think it really blows that they are forcing you to get the deluxe version if you want to try to get in today which looks suspicious....that really blows and is gimmicky if you ask me. already they are trying to squeeze you out of your money and the game is not even out...

anyone running into this also?

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#256 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"] Yeah, I hope they cancel their pre-orders. TOR doesn't need a community like that. FelipeInside
Nah, I hope they quit after giving Bioware their money. It'd serve them right.

Yeah, this is what I'm worried about, but honestly it's gonna happen and there is nothing we can do about it. Some servers will be full of 12 year olds complaining about noobs and the likes. It would be a dream if ToR had the same mature community as something like LOTRO, but we all know it's not going to happen.

I am still baffled at the "12 year old claims".. The jackasses and people who complain are the same "hardcore" that constantly post in forums with constant one ups-menship... In my experience its nto the casuals that ruin a community its the try hard hardcore peole that take it too seriously.

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#257 Rusteater
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[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"] Any major differences from beta?FelipeInside
Nothing major from what I can tell. A few bugs fixed and some things working better in my 6hrs of playtime. I am on Bondar Crystal republic side atm. I was going Sith but most of my friends are republic and dont want to play alone. =/

Do they have AA enabled? Has the framerate at least being fixed?

AA has been removed from the settings!

They are going to implement it in a patch.

You can enable AA by adding this line to the client_settings.ini - "AntiAliasingLevel = 4" (without quotes)

Mine is set at 4. Haven't tried 8 yet but a lot of people have and it's been working great for them. Just having it set at 4 really helps the whole world come together graphically.

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#258 Bigsteve3570
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I want to get in nowzzzzz!
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#259 MyopicCanadian
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[QUOTE="kokonut1971"]

does anyone know why the regular pc digital version is temporary unavailable?

I was thinking of doing a pre-order and hopefully get early access but the site says the regular version is temporarily unavailable and i sure as hell dont wanna pony up for the deluxe version for trinkets that wont matter later.

I guess they cant cope with the demand and closed the order fore regular version but it think it really blows that they are forcing you to get the deluxe version if you want to try to get in today which looks suspicious....that really blows and is gimmicky if you ask me. already they are trying to squeeze you out of your money and the game is not even out...

anyone running into this also?

Hmm, that's strange.. I actually ordered my standard digital version yesterday.
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#260 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] Nah, I hope they quit after giving Bioware their money. It'd serve them right.sSubZerOo

Yeah, this is what I'm worried about, but honestly it's gonna happen and there is nothing we can do about it. Some servers will be full of 12 year olds complaining about noobs and the likes. It would be a dream if ToR had the same mature community as something like LOTRO, but we all know it's not going to happen.

I am still baffled at the "12 year old claims".. The jackasses and people who complain are the same "hardcore" that constantly post in forums with constant one ups-menship... In my experience its nto the casuals that ruin a community its the try hard hardcore peole that take it too seriously.

Yes, I agree. "12 year old" is probably just the expression I used but I've come across BOTH. Little boys in WoW who think they know it all and don't even know how to talk/write = 12 year olds Hardcore gamers that punish you and call u noob and want u out of the party at the slightest mistake in a dungeon = Hardcore Fanboys
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#261 Major_9000
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So, for those playing and based on what you've seen ...

Is SWTOR a 1) Buy 2) Not Buy 3) hold off until they polish the game?

Thanks!

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#262 siriusbusiness
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So, for those playing and based on what you've seen ...

Is SWTOR a 1) Buy 2) Not Buy 3) hold off until they polish the game?

Thanks!

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#263 Inconsistancy
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Yes, I agree. "12 year old" is probably just the expression I used but I've come across BOTH.

Little boys in WoW who think they know it all and don't even know how to talk/write = 12 year olds

Hardcore gamers that punish you and call u noob and want u out of the party at the slightest mistake in a dungeon = Hardcore FanboysFelipeInside

I think you mean elitist... and I'm one of those types, however... I don't think my desire to remove people from groups is from 'slight mistakes'... :cry:

So, for those playing and based on what you've seen ...

Is SWTOR a 1) Buy 2) Not Buy 3) hold off until they polish the game?

Thanks!

Major_9000

1. personally, it's qutie polished and very fun, imo.

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#264 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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So, for those playing and based on what you've seen ...

Is SWTOR a 1) Buy 2) Not Buy 3) hold off until they polish the game?

Thanks!

Major_9000
I need more time with it before I can say for sure. ATM, its a 1 for me. possibly 3.
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#265 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

Yes, I agree. "12 year old" is probably just the expression I used but I've come across BOTH.

Little boys in WoW who think they know it all and don't even know how to talk/write = 12 year olds

Hardcore gamers that punish you and call u noob and want u out of the party at the slightest mistake in a dungeon = Hardcore FanboysInconsistancy

I think you mean elitist... and I'm one of those types, however... I don't think my desire to remove people from groups is from 'slight mistakes'... :cry:

So, for those playing and based on what you've seen ...

Is SWTOR a 1) Buy 2) Not Buy 3) hold off until they polish the game?

Thanks!

Major_9000

1. personally, it's qutie polished and very fun, imo.

I don't mind people getting removed from grps if they continuously don't have any idea how to play. My point is when you do just a small mistake, or ask a basic question and they just rage and call you Noob.
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#266 FelipeInside
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So, for those playing and based on what you've seen ...

Is SWTOR a 1) Buy 2) Not Buy 3) hold off until they polish the game?

Thanks!

Major_9000
Definitely 1. I'm playing it right now (finally got into Early Access) and it's great fun. Of course like any new MMO, things need to be polished but I trust BioWare are working around the clock to get everything perfect and new patches/expansions in the horizon.
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#267 Steameffekt
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Hopefully I get in tomorrow as well as everyone else. :)

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#268 Steameffekt
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If you still haven't gotten into Early Access, you WILL get into the game tomorrow if you pre-ordered before the last week of Novemeber. Everyone else.. Friday. :cry:

Source

I'm a few days late. Oh well.

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#269 FelipeInside
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If you still haven't gotten into Early Access, you WILL get into the game tomorrow if you pre-ordered before the last week of Novemeber. Everyone else.. Friday. :cry:

Source

I'm a few days late. Oh well.

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I got in this morning and played with a friend for a couple of hours. Love how each person can choose a conversation option and it carries it forward. Great to see LAG is good for us Aussies (150ms-300ms), and the framerate issues have been fixed.
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#270 Elann2008
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If you still haven't gotten into Early Access, you WILL get into the game tomorrow if you pre-ordered before the last week of Novemeber. Everyone else.. Friday. :cry:

Source

I'm a few days late. Oh well.

Steameffekt
Everyone else Friday? Are you f'in serious??? I'm so happy right now! Yay! I was thinking I would get in on Monday ROFL... which is the last day. You brought me great news young JEDI. :D On other news, I just received a email from Amazon.com saying my order will arrive sooner than expected! Dec. 16, 2011 is your new arrival date for SWTOR. Woot! I also purchased the SWTOR (physical) security key. Can't be too safe. Plus, it looks so cool. I'm a collector so I had to get it. :D Cost like $8.
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#271 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

If you still haven't gotten into Early Access, you WILL get into the game tomorrow if you pre-ordered before the last week of Novemeber. Everyone else.. Friday. :cry:

Source

I'm a few days late. Oh well.

FelipeInside

I got in this morning and played with a friend for a couple of hours. Love how each person can choose a conversation option and it carries it forward. Great to see LAG is good for us Aussies (150ms-300ms), and the framerate issues have been fixed.

There is a God. I'm stoked. Thank you for the great news. :D

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Cant wait to try teh game, luckily the new BF3 maps are just fantastic, played them for awhile today, totally forgot about waiting for The Old Republic email :P

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#273 Steameffekt
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[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

If you still haven't gotten into Early Access, you WILL get into the game tomorrow if you pre-ordered before the last week of Novemeber. Everyone else.. Friday. :cry:

Source

I'm a few days late. Oh well.

Elann2008
Everyone else Friday? Are you f'in serious??? I'm so happy right now! Yay! I was thinking I would get in on Monday ROFL... which is the last day. You brought me great news young JEDI. :D On other news, I just received a email from Amazon.com saying my order will arrive sooner than expected! Dec. 16, 2011 is your new arrival date for SWTOR. Woot! I also purchased the SWTOR (physical) security key. Can't be too safe. Plus, it looks so cool. I'm a collector so I had to get it. :D Cost like $8.

It should be Friday. If they're ending tomorrow with the end of November and starting from the beginning of October, I don't see why the people who pre-ordered within the first two weeks of December shouldn't get in by Friday.
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#274 Steameffekt
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

If you still haven't gotten into Early Access, you WILL get into the game tomorrow if you pre-ordered before the last week of Novemeber. Everyone else.. Friday. :cry:

Source

I'm a few days late. Oh well.

Elann2008

I got in this morning and played with a friend for a couple of hours. Love how each person can choose a conversation option and it carries it forward. Great to see LAG is good for us Aussies (150ms-300ms), and the framerate issues have been fixed.

There is a God. I'm stoked. Thank you for the great news. :D

Define framerate issues lol. I don' think I experienced any. Or does the game run better than beta?
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#275 Steameffekt
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Cant wait to try teh game, luckily the new BF3 maps are just fantastic, played them for awhile today, totally forgot about waiting for The Old Republic email :P

kozzy1234
It's hard for me to forget since I'm playing KOTOR 2. :lol:
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#276 kokonut1971
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i stand corrected on my previous comments. I was able to order the regular version of the game despite the site leading you to believe otherwise.Now all i have to do is download a 25 GB download and wait for my invite and then run around and see for myself.

cheers

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#277 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I got in this morning and played with a friend for a couple of hours. Love how each person can choose a conversation option and it carries it forward. Great to see LAG is good for us Aussies (150ms-300ms), and the framerate issues have been fixed.Steameffekt

There is a God. I'm stoked. Thank you for the great news. :D

Define framerate issues lol. I don' think I experienced any. Or does the game run better than beta?

The beta had significant drops in framerates which were clearly visible to the naked eye.

The final game I played this morning had all the graphics options on HIGH (Max) and also AA at 2.... and it worked smoother than WoW.

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#278 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Cant wait to try teh game, luckily the new BF3 maps are just fantastic, played them for awhile today, totally forgot about waiting for The Old Republic email :P

Steameffekt

It's hard for me to forget since I'm playing KOTOR 2. :lol:

Wish I still had my KOTOR2 disc! :lol:

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#279 SouthyClare
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Been playing since tuesday and I am really enjoying it. Im currently lvl 19 but have not been in any flashpoints yet. Loved the pvp and cant wait to continue my class story with my bounty hunter. What level are you guys atm?

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#280 Steameffekt
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[QUOTE="Steameffekt"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Cant wait to try teh game, luckily the new BF3 maps are just fantastic, played them for awhile today, totally forgot about waiting for The Old Republic email :P

kozzy1234

It's hard for me to forget since I'm playing KOTOR 2. :lol:

Wish I still had my KOTOR2 disc! :lol:

Ah having a blast again. Still not as epic as KOTOR but still great.
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#281 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I got in this morning and played with a friend for a couple of hours. Love how each person can choose a conversation option and it carries it forward. Great to see LAG is good for us Aussies (150ms-300ms), and the framerate issues have been fixed.Steameffekt

There is a God. I'm stoked. Thank you for the great news. :D

Define framerate issues lol. I don' think I experienced any. Or does the game run better than beta?

Optimization was choppy. I was getting anywhere from 115fps indoors and outdoors, it would dip down into the 30-40's. I even turned down shadows.
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[QUOTE="Steameffekt"][QUOTE="Elann2008"]

There is a God. I'm stoked. Thank you for the great news. :D

FelipeInside

Define framerate issues lol. I don' think I experienced any. Or does the game run better than beta?

The beta had significant drops in framerates which were clearly visible to the naked eye.

The final game I played this morning had all the graphics options on HIGH (Max) and also AA at 2.... and it worked smoother than WoW.

yea and not to mention we have no driver support yet

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#283 Joncon88
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Ok... I know I'm gonna sound like a perv... Whatever, but is that you in your steam profile pic wiseboi?
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#284 Steameffekt
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Ok... I know I'm gonna sound like a perv... Whatever, but is that you in your steam profile pic wiseboi? Joncon88
rofl
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#285 Joncon88
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Ok... I know I'm gonna sound like a perv... Whatever, but is that you in your steam profile pic wiseboi?
[QUOTE="Joncon88"]Ok... I know I'm gonna sound like a perv... Whatever, but is that you in your steam profile pic wiseboi? Steameffekt
rofl

Knew it... O well... And oh btw to contribute to the thread... I got in to the game this morning and it's fantastic. Best MMO out there... Hands down.
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#286 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I've decided I'm going to give this game a pass, at least in the beginning.

A few things went into my decision: One, I can't stand the lack of customization in the game. If I play a Jedi, I want to play the class my way(within reason). I don't think it's unreasonable to let me choose which kind of lightsaber I want to use, no matter what advanced class I choose. This also goes for blasters. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to choose whether I want to use a carbine, or a blaster-rifle as a bounty hunter. Bounty hunters didn't just use pistols, you know.

Second, I can't stand the iconic class path the developers took. Boba and Jango Fett were very unique. They were amongst a few bounty hunters who used jet packs. I can't get over the fact that every BH now gets to use a jetpack.

Third, wookiees aren't playable. Nothing is as iconic to the Star Wars universe as Wookiees. There's no reason they couldn't have implemented them.

Four, I think I pretty much burned myself out on the beta. I spent at least three months playing the s*** out of this game, and it just doesn't give me a thrill to play it anymore.

Fifth, and the most important, I simply don't have enough time to play this game. I used to be heavily into MMORPGs, but things have changed.

Anyway, I have no doubt it's going to be a great game, and maybe these problems will be addressed at some point.

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#287 wis3boi
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Ok... I know I'm gonna sound like a perv... Whatever, but is that you in your steam profile pic wiseboi? Joncon88
yes
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#288 Steameffekt
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[QUOTE="Joncon88"]Ok... I know I'm gonna sound like a perv... Whatever, but is that you in your steam profile pic wiseboi? wis3boi
yes

Wait, what? Are you serious? Wait... of course you are.
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#289 Steameffekt
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I've decided I'm going to give this game a pass, at least in the beginning.

A few things went into my decision: One, I can't stand the lack of customization in the game. If I play a Jedi, I want to play the class my way(within reason). I don't think it's unreasonable to let me choose which kind of lightsaber I want to use, no matter what advanced class I choose. This also goes for blasters. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to choose whether I want to use a carbine, or a blaster-rifle as a bounty hunter. Bounty hunters didn't just use pistols, you know.

Second, I can't stand the iconic class path the developers took. Boba and Jango Fett were very unique. They were amongst a few bounty hunters who used jet packs. I can't get over the fact that every BH now gets to use a jetpack.

Third, wookiees aren't playable. Nothing is as iconic to the Star Wars universe as Wookiees. There's no reason they couldn't have implemented them.

Four, I think I pretty much burned myself out on the beta. I spent at least three months playing the s*** out of this game, and it just doesn't give me a thrill to play it anymore.

Fifth, and the most important, I simply don't have enough time to play this game. I used to be heavily into MMORPGs, but things have changed.

Anyway, I have no doubt it's going to be a great game, and maybe these problems will be addressed at some point.

airshocker

Very insightful. Although I agree on some points I would like to respond to some of your points.

Number one is Wookies. I agree it should be a playable race, heck maybe in a future expansion. But the only Wookies I remember from KOTOR were Zalbaar and that BH Wookie from Nar Shadaa in KOTOR2. I don't think it would fit the game to see Wookie Jedis and Commandos running around.

Number two. Although BH can use carbines and pistols, I agree it's a bit of a shame you have to change specializations to use them properly or use them if all.

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#290 trijity
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I've decided I'm going to give this game a pass, at least in the beginning.

A few things went into my decision: One, I can't stand the lack of customization in the game. If I play a Jedi, I want to play the class my way(within reason). I don't think it's unreasonable to let me choose which kind of lightsaber I want to use, no matter what advanced class I choose. This also goes for blasters. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to choose whether I want to use a carbine, or a blaster-rifle as a bounty hunter. Bounty hunters didn't just use pistols, you know.

Second, I can't stand the iconic class path the developers took. Boba and Jango Fett were very unique. They were amongst a few bounty hunters who used jet packs. I can't get over the fact that every BH now gets to use a jetpack.

Third, wookiees aren't playable. Nothing is as iconic to the Star Wars universe as Wookiees. There's no reason they couldn't have implemented them.

Four, I think I pretty much burned myself out on the beta. I spent at least three months playing the s*** out of this game, and it just doesn't give me a thrill to play it anymore.

Fifth, and the most important, I simply don't have enough time to play this game. I used to be heavily into MMORPGs, but things have changed.

Anyway, I have no doubt it's going to be a great game, and maybe these problems will be addressed at some point.

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I think many of these complaints would be legit if not in the form of an MMO. The limitations to some of the customization you desire give meaning and reasoning to rolling a specific class. Which I feel is needed. As far as playable wookies, I completely agree in the sense that they need a more diverse race system besides.. "The purple human, the red human, the blind human, the human human", but I do not know if Wookie is a valid option. Since the game is boasting it's voice over's so much, a forever wookie whelp would be highly irritating after a few minutes.

Reason 4 and 5 are legit though, 3 months of any game can cause burn-out, and MMO's do take time for progression.

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#291 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Very insightful. Although I agree on some points I would like to respond to some of your points.

Number one is Wookies. I agree it should be a playable race, heck maybe in a future expansion. But the only Wookies I remember from KOTOR were Zalbaar and that BH Wookie from Nar Shadaa in KOTOR2. I don't think it would fit the game to see Wookie Jedis and Commandos running around.

Number two. Although BH can use carbines and pistols, I agree it's a bit of a shame you have to change specializations to use them properly or use them if all.

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Well, there is more to Star Wars than just the video games. Chewbacca, for instance was in the movies, books AND a couple video games. Wookiee warriors exist in every facet. Chewbacca didn't start off as a smuggler, he was depicted as a warrior in RoTS.

BHs can only use pistols, or dual pistols. Which is egregiously inaccurate. Like I said, I dislike the ":conic" path they took with classes. It doesn't capture the vastness of Star Wars, to me.

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I think many of these complaints would be legit if not in the form of an MMO. The limitations to some of the customization you desire give meaning and reasoning to rolling a specific class. Which I feel is needed. As far as playable wookies, I completely agree in the sense that they need a more diverse race system besides.. "The purple human, the red human, the blind human, the human human", but I do not know if Wookie is a valid option. Since the game is boasting it's voice over's so much, a forever wookie whelp would be highly irritating after a few minutes.

Reason 4 and 5 are legit though, 3 months of any game can cause burn-out, and MMO's do take time for progression.

trijity

Heard these excuses before. SWG had everything I just listed. It's far from impossible to implement anything I suggested.

A class has "meaning" by nature of the class, not the way a player chooses to customize. So I think the lack of customization is due to sheer laziness on the part of Bioware, which is a shame.

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#293 trijity
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[QUOTE="trijity"]

I think many of these complaints would be legit if not in the form of an MMO. The limitations to some of the customization you desire give meaning and reasoning to rolling a specific class. Which I feel is needed. As far as playable wookies, I completely agree in the sense that they need a more diverse race system besides.. "The purple human, the red human, the blind human, the human human", but I do not know if Wookie is a valid option. Since the game is boasting it's voice over's so much, a forever wookie whelp would be highly irritating after a few minutes.

Reason 4 and 5 are legit though, 3 months of any game can cause burn-out, and MMO's do take time for progression.

airshocker

Heard these excuses before. SWG had everything I just listed. It's far from impossible to implement anything I suggested.

A class has "meaning" by nature of the class, not the way a player chooses to customize. So I think the lack of customization is due to sheer laziness on the part of Bioware, which is a shame.

Last time I noticed, SWG never boasted the voice overs SWTOR is. Also...last time I noticed...SWG aint doin too hot. (i.e. it dead)

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#294 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Last time I noticed, SWG never boasted the voice overs SWTOR is. Also...last time I noticed...SWG aint doin too hot. (i.e. it dead)

trijity

You spoke of limitations, I showed you an MMORPG that had done everything I spoke of. What does what you just said have to do with the rebuttal I gave to you?

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#295 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

Very insightful. Although I agree on some points I would like to respond to some of your points.

Number one is Wookies. I agree it should be a playable race, heck maybe in a future expansion. But the only Wookies I remember from KOTOR were Zalbaar and that BH Wookie from Nar Shadaa in KOTOR2. I don't think it would fit the game to see Wookie Jedis and Commandos running around.

Number two. Although BH can use carbines and pistols, I agree it's a bit of a shame you have to change specializations to use them properly or use them if all.

airshocker

Well, there is more to Star Wars than just the video games. Chewbacca, for instance was in the movies, books AND a couple video games. Wookiee warriors exist in every facet. Chewbacca didn't start off as a smuggler, he was depicted as a warrior in RoTS.

BHs can only use pistols, or dual pistols. Which is egregiously inaccurate. Like I said, I dislike the ":conic" path they took with classes. It doesn't capture the vastness of Star Wars, to me.

I gotta agree with Airshocker here. Especially the second paragraph.
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="Joncon88"]Ok... I know I'm gonna sound like a perv... Whatever, but is that you in your steam profile pic wiseboi? Steameffekt
yes

Wait, what? Are you serious? Wait... of course you are.

Ok thanks for answering my question... It was bugging me... I thought it was a game character, than realized it was an actual photograph. Well done btw
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#297 omega0718
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I just hope latency over here in Asia would not be an issue when I finally get a copy of the US version on the 20th. :roll:

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#298 Joncon88
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="trijity"]

I think many of these complaints would be legit if not in the form of an MMO. The limitations to some of the customization you desire give meaning and reasoning to rolling a specific class. Which I feel is needed. As far as playable wookies, I completely agree in the sense that they need a more diverse race system besides.. "The purple human, the red human, the blind human, the human human", but I do not know if Wookie is a valid option. Since the game is boasting it's voice over's so much, a forever wookie whelp would be highly irritating after a few minutes.

Reason 4 and 5 are legit though, 3 months of any game can cause burn-out, and MMO's do take time for progression.

trijity

Heard these excuses before. SWG had everything I just listed. It's far from impossible to implement anything I suggested.

A class has "meaning" by nature of the class, not the way a player chooses to customize. So I think the lack of customization is due to sheer laziness on the part of Bioware, which is a shame.

Last time I noticed, SWG never boasted the voice overs SWTOR is. Also...last time I noticed...SWG aint doin too hot. (i.e. it dead)

I think you saying laziness may be a stretch. I mean more money went into this game than any other. As well years and years of development. I think they wanted to keep some distinctions between classes and this was one way they did it.
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#299 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="trijity"]

Last time I noticed, SWG never boasted the voice overs SWTOR is. Also...last time I noticed...SWG aint doin too hot. (i.e. it dead)

airshocker

You spoke of limitations, I showed you an MMORPG that had done everything I spoke of. What does what you just said have to do with the rebuttal I gave to you?

Ahhh, but did SWG have all that at launch or later down the track? Give BioWare a chance.... They haven't even launched yet. More classes and character customization will come with patches an expansions.
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I think you saying laziness may be a stretch. I mean more money went into this game than any other. As well years and years of development. I think they wanted to keep some distinctions between classes and this was one way they did it. Joncon88

Then it's even more shameful that customization and uniquity lost out to some developers idea of distinction. Settling for things being okay is laziness. The game would have been better if they took a page from SWG.