System requirements empire: total war
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9600GT = 208 GFLOPS (Graphical power) theres no way a 9600GT could take on a 8800GT which is at 336 GFLOPS... its so much more powerful than the 9600GT
Fillo1980
Strangely enough it manages to keep up with the 8800GT with the majority of games with AA applied. I know I've got 8800GT and my dad 9600GT I built it. I know EXACTLY how these cards perform at games and there is nothing between them. I don't know what the big deal is with people but these cards at not miles apart at all. Surprising is how the 9600GT sometimes ends up better than the 8800GT with AA. 8800GT is better without AA generally but with AA these cards are matched.
And look here it comes up to the 9800GT
I see a lot of bias answers in this threat. First off the 9600gt is a good card ( is about 10-15% slower than an 8800gt ).
As for world in conflict no it cant max it ( you can though play it at mostly high settings at 1280x1024 and get an average fps around 25 fps and considering this is an rts game that is ok).
As for crysis no way you can max it ( you can play it at mix high-medium settings mostly high at 1280x1024 and get about 30-35 fps average).
Now for empires total war according to minimum settings you are more than fine and probably the 9600gt will be near the recommended settings ( which again will allow you to play it at medium-high settings but highly doubt it you can max it especially on higher resolutions)
adamosmaki
I just didn't see the 10-15% slower than the 8800GT. I had the palit 9600GT and it was awesome every bit as good as the 8800GT I have now. 8800GT will generally be faster without AA but with AA the 9600GT quickly catches it and sometimes can surpass it. I've had both and the 3dmark06 between them was like 300 marks. Both scored me over 10,000 3dmarks06. Games there was no noticable difference. Look at the benchmarks I posted there is nothing between them. I may depend on the model of 9600GT. Sparkle and palit are the good ones from those benchmarks but it can and does compete with the 8800GT.
The only reason I bought a 8800GT after getting the 9600GT was to see if what people were saying was true(they were saying the 8800GT was much much better). Fact is it isn't any better at all. 9600GT was my dads. I built it for him. Same motherboard as I have same processor etc. I wish I had bought one too because they were cheaper and they are a hell of a lot cooler 20C cooler in fact. I paid £20 more for the 8800GT for nothing. There wasn't any more performance out of it.
I maxed both the 9600gt and 8800GT with 1024x768 crysis Very high settings. Got between 20-40FPS with both models pretty smooth as well. Q6600 certainly helps them both along.
Obviously very high is too slow at 1280x1024 but at 1024x768 it was fine. This site didn't go low enough for that setting but here is the high resolution.
The all high setting would be better to have to more smooth.
I maxed WIC with both and the 9600GT and the 8800Gt. I play that game a lot. Both are great at 1280x960 maxed everything and 4XAA. Nothing between them bar one FPS to the 8800GT. It was unnoticable in the game.
As you can see ^ it was about equal according to the benchmark site^
Anyway both good cards. I don't know why the 9600GT gets knocked so much as it does. It's a great cheap card. Not as many shader processes that may be way but in games it performs on par with the 8800GT. As I've said I've had both of them tested them and the benchmarks mirror what my experiences are. There are old benchmarks out there that don't show this because the 9600GT was new and the drivers were not optimised for it. Now the above benchmarks sites are recent ones and the 9600GT does shine with them.
[QUOTE="teddyrob"][QUOTE="Fillo1980"]9600GT = 208 GFLOPS (Graphical power) theres no way a 9600GT could take on a 8800GT which is at 336 GFLOPS... its so much more powerful than the 9600GT
Fillo1980
Strangely enough it manages to keep up with the 8800GT with the majority of games with AA applied. I know I've got 8800GT and my dad 9600GT I built it. I know EXACTLY how these cards perform at games and there is nothing between them. I don't know what the big deal is with people but these cards at not miles apart at all. Surprising is how the 9600GT sometimes ends up better than the 8800GT with AA. 8800GT is better without AA generally but with AA these cards are matched.
What is your point? That a highly clocked Palit 9600GT is better than a stock 8800GT?? Of course it is because a stock 9600GT has 650Mhz core, Shader 1625Mhz and memory clock of 900Mhz... whilst our palit 9600GT has 750Mhz Core, shader 1750Mhz and memory of 1000Mhz thats 325Mhz increase across the board!!
So please get your facts right before comparing a stock 8800GT to a highly clocked branded Palit 9600GT... a stock 9600GT 512 CAN NOT BEAT A STOCK 8800GT 512 Period....
Back on topic yes a 9600GT at 1280x1024 can max certain games... but Crysis HELL NO!!
My dads palit 9600GT branded xpertvision(same company as palit) was the stock 650Mhz core with 1625. shader clock. My facts are right. I've owned both the cards. It is clocked higher than the 8800Gt but it is a different card. That is the way they built them. The 9600Gt can run those clocks because it is a lot cooler. It was a cooler GPU that was why they can have a higher clock and keep up with less shaders. That is the whole point of the 9600GT don't you understand that. The 8800GT already runs way hot with the core and shader clock it has but it has more shaders. Its like faster men working to do the same job as more men working slower. There is little between them. Just look where the stock Geforce model is. It isn't 10-15% behind at all. I tested the extensively and my findings were the same as the benchmarks as I've said.
Do you own both cards. Have you had both cards and witnessed the games with both cards. I have and I'm telling you there was no difference between them. These are facts I've witnessed myself. I have the 8800GT it is no better I tell you. Don't come on here to call me out as a liar. Look at my post history where I built a 9600GT for my dad and then when I bought 8800GT for myself and I've said time and time there is nothing between these 2 cards.
Don't make out that the 8800GT is leaps and bounds ahead of the 9600GT it isn't and look at the farcry2 and fallout3 benchmarks. Talking to people like you is a waste of time and you're ignorant of the facts.
I will defend to the end when someone incorrectly claims the 8800GT is miles better than the 9600GT. Facts are it isn't. 32FPS is no better than 32FPS
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