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#1 metroidprime55
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I am building my first PC and I want to know if these parts will work, so here are my specs right now, can you tell me what I might what to add or what I need to make this computer work, I want this to be a really good gaming computer that can play all the latest games at the highest quality.

Intel DP55KG motherboard

Intel Core i7 875k processor 2.93 GHz quad-core unlocked

8Gb of DDR3 RAM

1TB hard drive

NZXT Tempest ATX mid-tower case

Ultra X4 750W PSU

Nvidia Geforce GTX 480

Diamond Xtreme Sound 5.1/16 bit sound card

Logitech MX 518 mouse

Logitech G-15 2-tone keyboard

My disk drive

Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 speackers

CPU fan

Hard drive fan

RAM fan

Windows 7 64-bit/ maybe Mac too

OK that linking and page finding took a while, thank you for helping me if you were nice enough to help me.

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#2 MonsieurX
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Don't need the sound card and the HDD\RAM fans.
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Don't need the sound card and the HDD\RAM fans.MonsieurX

Why don't I need a sound card?

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#4 hitman6actual
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Don't need the sound card and the HDD\RAM fans.metroidprime55

Why don't I need a sound card?

Mobo's got one built in. You also don't need those fans, but other than that things look good. Have fun building.
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#5 jtcraft
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I would recommend a PSU from Antec or Corsair over the ultra as they make better quality psu's. You won't need 8GB of RAM. 4GB will do for now. If you need more later on you can always add more.
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#6 metroidprime55
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[QUOTE="metroidprime55"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Don't need the sound card and the HDD\RAM fans.hitman6actual

Why don't I need a sound card?

Mobo's got one built in. You also don't need those fans, but other than that things look good. Have fun building.

Another thing I'm curious about is that if my CPU is powerful enough to play a game like Fallout 3. It's just that 2.93GHz seems kind of low.

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I would recommend a PSU from Antec or Corsair over the ultra as they make better quality psu's. You won't need 8GB of RAM. 4GB will do for now. If you need more later on you can always add more.jtcraft
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#8 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="metroidprime55"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Don't need the sound card and the HDD\RAM fans.hitman6actual

Why don't I need a sound card?

Mobo's got one built in. You also don't need those fans, but other than that things look good. Have fun building.

And mobo's sound card will do the job unless you have some quality speakers.
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#9 halokillerz
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yea that cpu is fine, prolly should go with the i7870 if ur not gonna overclock

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#10 MonsieurX
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yea that cpu is fine, prolly should go with the i7870 if ur not gonna overclock

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Or grab an I7 950 for less than that 875k
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#11 metroidprime55
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[QUOTE="halokillerz"]

yea that cpu is fine, prolly should go with the i7870 if ur not gonna overclock

MonsieurX

Or grab an I7 950 for less than that 875k

Nice, thanks for the advice.

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#13 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="metroidprime55"]

[QUOTE="hitman6actual"]Mobo's got one built in. You also don't need those fans, but other than that things look good. Have fun building. hitman6actual

Another thing I'm curious about is that if my CPU is powerful enough to play a game like Fallout 3. It's just that 2.93GHz seems kind of low.

Your CPU is fine, especially if you overclock. To me going to the i7 is almost pointless for a gaming rig, because what you paying for is hyper threading and the Intel logo, which aren't needed. I'd be more concerned with the GPU you have picked out, which is entry level compared to the more powerful ones available today.

GTX 480 is entry level? :lol:
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[QUOTE="metroidprime55"]

[QUOTE="hitman6actual"]Mobo's got one built in. You also don't need those fans, but other than that things look good. Have fun building. hitman6actual

Another thing I'm curious about is that if my CPU is powerful enough to play a game like Fallout 3. It's just that 2.93GHz seems kind of low.

Your CPU is fine, especially if you overclock. To me going to the i7 is almost pointless for a gaming rig, because what you paying for is hyper threading and the Intel logo, which aren't needed. I'd be more concerned with the GPU you have picked out, which is entry level compared to the more powerful ones available today.

I thought the GTX 480 was the best individual graphics card out right now, can you give me an example of a better one?

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#15 halokillerz
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[QUOTE="halokillerz"]

yea that cpu is fine, prolly should go with the i7870 if ur not gonna overclock

MonsieurX

Or grab an I7 950 for less than that 875k

ull need a different mobo and ram if u go with the 950, just remember that

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I'd wait for the 6xxx series, get a 965 and an 8GB RAM. Then you won't upgrade for a while. Better PSU too, that one is poor.

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[QUOTE="hitman6actual"][QUOTE="metroidprime55"]

Another thing I'm curious about is that if my CPU is powerful enough to play a game like Fallout 3. It's just that 2.93GHz seems kind of low.

MonsieurX

Your CPU is fine, especially if you overclock. To me going to the i7 is almost pointless for a gaming rig, because what you paying for is hyper threading and the Intel logo, which aren't needed. I'd be more concerned with the GPU you have picked out, which is entry level compared to the more powerful ones available today.

GTX 480 is entry level? :lol:

I can't believe I said that... lolol, it's late here and I'm forgetting which freaking post I'm posting on, and that one was actually meant for somebody who's got an I7 950 picked out, but only a 5770 to go with it. That post is just too horrible to stay up, I'll delete it (and go and find the other poor soul who's probably more confused than I now, being that more than likely I posted what was meant to be on here in his thread). So, please excuse my idiocy and blatant lack of brain functionality.

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#18 hitman6actual
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[QUOTE="hitman6actual"][QUOTE="metroidprime55"]

Another thing I'm curious about is that if my CPU is powerful enough to play a game like Fallout 3. It's just that 2.93GHz seems kind of low.

metroidprime55

Your CPU is fine, especially if you overclock. To me going to the i7 is almost pointless for a gaming rig, because what you paying for is hyper threading and the Intel logo, which aren't needed. I'd be more concerned with the GPU you have picked out, which is entry level compared to the more powerful ones available today.

I thought the GTX 480 was the best individual graphics card out right now, can you give me an example of a better one?

God I'm sorry for the confusion. Disregard what I said about your GPU in that post, as it was NOT meant for this one. The GTX480 is a BEAST, of a GPU, just to clear that up.
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#19 metroidprime55
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I'd wait for the 6xxx series, get a 965 and an 8GB RAM. Then you won't upgrade for a while. Better PSU too, that one is poor.

desertpython

Is the 6xxx series a graphics card series, if so is it from ATI or Nvidia because don't I have to switch to AMD to use ATI? And is the 965 a CPU?

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#20 metroidprime55
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="halokillerz"]

yea that cpu is fine, prolly should go with the i7870 if ur not gonna overclock

halokillerz

Or grab an I7 950 for less than that 875k

ull need a different mobo and ram if u go with the 950, just remember that

How is this motherboard?

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#21 Kendog87
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That MB is a boss

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#22 metroidprime55
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That MB is a boss

Kendog87

Do you mean the DP55KG or the X58.

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#23 Kendog87
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The evga. And well i would go a 950 that evga mb and tri channel 1600 6gb kit

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The AMD 6xxx series gpu's will run fine on an Intel setup. They don't begin to come out until the end of Oct. or early Nov. and then it will be the low to mid range cards first followed by the high end cards. Also, we don't know what their performance will be. Though, they will most likely outperform the HD 5000 series. The EVGA X58 Classified is a good mobo, but it is intended for those that do a lot of overclocking. Also, the price is actually $350 and comes with a $50 mail in rebate. For an i7 950 setup I would go with the EVGA X58 3-Way SLI E-758-A1 Mobo. Just remember the i7 9xx cpu's and X58 mobo's use triple channel RAM kits. So you will want 6GB of RAM (3 x 2GB sticks) which will be a little bit more expensive than a 4GB kit.
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#25 metroidprime55
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The evga. And well i would go a 950 that evga mb and tri channel 1600 6gb kit

Kendog87

I can't find that power supply, can you give me a link?

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#26 Kendog87
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I ment Intel 950 CPU
For the power supply get a cossair or antec im using a Antec 850watt signature series

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#27 desertpython
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An AMD motherboard for less than $150 will give you the same performance. Look for the 870 chipsets in an ATX form factor.

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#28 metroidprime55
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I'd wait for the 6xxx series, get a 965 and an 8GB RAM. Then you won't upgrade for a while. Better PSU too, that one is poor.

desertpython

I just realized, ATI doesn't support any of that great stuff that Nvidia offers with their graphics cards like PhysX so should I just go with a GTX 480?

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great build but u do not need hdd and ram fans, chexck this mobo
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#30 jtcraft
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[QUOTE="desertpython"]

I'd wait for the 6xxx series, get a 965 and an 8GB RAM. Then you won't upgrade for a while. Better PSU too, that one is poor.

metroidprime55

I just realized, ATI doesn't support any of that great stuff that Nvidia offers with their graphics cards like PhysX so should I just go with a GTX 480?

The GTX 480 has the best performance of any single gpu video card on the market right now and if that is what you want (and fits your budget) go for it. In computers and technology in general there is always something better around the corner. You can wait for the HD 6000 series if you want but it will be a 2 or 3 months before the high end gpu's are released. And even then they may be hard to come by since the demand will be high (especially for new tech during Christmas). But, don't let Physx be the deciding factor in what you choose. Physx has only been used in a handful of games (compared to all the games that have been released since it came out) and only a few of those games have implemented Physx well. But when it is used well (i.e. Batman Arkham Asylum) it looks really nice.
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#31 metroidprime55
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great build but u do not need hdd and ram fans, chexck this moboNLahren

There is something wrong with your link, it has lhttp instead of http so I can't link.

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This is the mobo I'd recommend:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443&Tpk=giagbyte%20870A-UD3

with a Phenom 965.

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This is the mobo I'd recommend:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443&Tpk=giagbyte%20870A-UD3

with a Phenom 965.

desertpython

Looks good but I have a few questions, first, does going with an AMD motherboard mean I have to go with ATI graphics cards because I know that AMD and ATI are together, also, what other parts do I have to change to accomodate to an AMD motherboard, and does the motherboard you suggested have dual channel DDR3 memory?

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[QUOTE="desertpython"]

This is the mobo I'd recommend:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443&Tpk=giagbyte%20870A-UD3

with a Phenom 965.

metroidprime55

Looks good but I have a few questions, first, does going with an AMD motherboard mean I have to go with ATI graphics cards because I know that AMD and ATI are together, also, what other parts do I have to change to accomodate to an AMD motherboard, and does the motherboard you suggested have dual channel DDR3 memory?

You can go with Nvidia if you want or a 5870 if you want a very good card right now. Dual channel memory would be this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104206

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[QUOTE="desertpython"]

This is the mobo I'd recommend:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443&Tpk=giagbyte%20870A-UD3

with a Phenom 965.

metroidprime55

Looks good but I have a few questions, first, does going with an AMD motherboard mean I have to go with ATI graphics cards because I know that AMD and ATI are together, also, what other parts do I have to change to accomodate to an AMD motherboard, and does the motherboard you suggested have dual channel DDR3 memory?

No you don't have to, and I would stick to buying that GTX480 no matter what you do. The only thing that changes with an AMD board is the lack of triple channel memory and of course the socket, which warrants the CPU change. IMO your making the right decision switching to AMD because i7 based systems aren't really needed for gaming at this point, and a Phenom II X4 965 will suffice for your needs, at a much lower cost.
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[QUOTE="metroidprime55"]

[QUOTE="desertpython"]

This is the mobo I'd recommend:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443&Tpk=giagbyte%20870A-UD3

with a Phenom 965.

hitman6actual

Looks good but I have a few questions, first, does going with an AMD motherboard mean I have to go with ATI graphics cards because I know that AMD and ATI are together, also, what other parts do I have to change to accomodate to an AMD motherboard, and does the motherboard you suggested have dual channel DDR3 memory?

No you don't have to, and I would stick to buying that GTX480 no matter what you do. The only thing that changes with an AMD board is the lack of triple channel memory and of course the socket, which warrants the CPU change. IMO your making the right decision switching to AMD because i7 based systems aren't really needed for gaming at this point, and a Phenom II X4 965 will suffice for your needs, at a much lower cost.

Who needs a 480? No game needs that power yet or for a while, and a 5870 uses a lot less power and doesn't sound as if the Omaha beach landings are in your PC.

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1: That CPU isnt that much better than the i5 750 or Phenom II X4 when it comes to gaming, its designed more for workstation stuff.

2: 8GB's of RAM is pointless for gaming right now, you could argue that you will use it one day but I would not hole my breath!

3: The Samsung 1TB F3 would be a faster HDD

4: I sugest a quality motherboard like Asus or Gigabyte.

5: RAM fans, LOL. Pointless!

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[QUOTE="hitman6actual"][QUOTE="metroidprime55"]

Looks good but I have a few questions, first, does going with an AMD motherboard mean I have to go with ATI graphics cards because I know that AMD and ATI are together, also, what other parts do I have to change to accomodate to an AMD motherboard, and does the motherboard you suggested have dual channel DDR3 memory?

desertpython

No you don't have to, and I would stick to buying that GTX480 no matter what you do. The only thing that changes with an AMD board is the lack of triple channel memory and of course the socket, which warrants the CPU change. IMO your making the right decision switching to AMD because i7 based systems aren't really needed for gaming at this point, and a Phenom II X4 965 will suffice for your needs, at a much lower cost.

Who needs a 480? No game needs that power yet or for a while, and a 5870 uses a lot less power and doesn't sound as if the Omaha beach landings are in your PC.

Negative. Both Crysis and Metro 2033, as well as ARMA II, will eat both a GTX480 and 5970 alive, with the settings maxed, in DX11(for 2033) @ 1080p and above. Granted most games aren't like this, but this leads me to my next point. The GTX480 is still worth it IMO, and being that it is the single fastest single GPU on the market currently, it will last for a long time, maxing everything you throw at it, at least until the new 28nm based Nvidia GPUs hit sometime late next year (although you could probably keep going strong with a 480 for 3, maybe 4 years into the future). If the TP has enough money to invest the GTX480 as well as the means to cool it and power if, by all means I think he/she should go for it.
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#39 desertpython
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Not even a 480 can push those games to maximum - every setting.

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#40 hitman6actual
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Not even a 480 can push those games to maximum - every setting.

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Well a 480 can play Crysis alright completely maxed @ 1080p. It's average framerate is around the low 30s (where you can't notice any lag) but drops into the teens when things get crazy. A 5970 is marginally better (but goes to show how much better a GTX480 is over a single 5870) as the 5970 gets into the upper 30's, and has low points in the low 20s. For the most part though they are almost the same. Metro is probably still out of the question for a single 480 or 5970, although I've never tried it, and ARMA II's horrible engine optimization is more to blame for it's bad performance in some cases than it's (possible) 12 mile view scale distance. The final verdict for me is to still is to go with the 480 despite all this, as the 5870, although a great GPU, is still not near what the performance of a 480 is.

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#41 desertpython
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Exactly, all those games are not completely playable 40FPS+, and the extra cost in terms of heat and power consumption for the 480 is not worth it.

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#42 hitman6actual
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Exactly, all those games are not completely playable 40FPS+, and the extra cost in terms of heat and power consumption for the 480 is not worth it.

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30FPS is considered full motion video and above 24fps it's unnoticeable for the human eye to perceive the different frames apart as they play on the screen. Very rarely does the 480 drop below 24FPS. The power consumption on full load of the 480 with an i7 920 doesn't go above 630W, far below the ability of the PSU he/she has chosen, and the Fermi cards (although they do run hot) are made to run and function at high temps. There really isn't an added cost for the 480 unless the TP plans on buying an after-market cooler or something, which may or may not be necessary, depending on how temps look after things get going for a while.
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#43 desertpython
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If the FPS is 30 and it drops there goes your full motion video. 40 maintains smoothness. And 630w at load?

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#44 metroidprime55
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How about this motherboard and a Phenom II black edition with six cores each running at 3.2GHz?

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#45 desertpython
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Fine, but you do not need to pay more for the 890GX chipset when you won't be using the onboard GPU. I also prefer Gigabyte. And the 955 is fine.

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#46 Daytona_178
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Fine, but you do not need to pay more for the 890GX chipset when you won't be using the onboard GPU. I also prefer Gigabyte. And the 955 is fine.

desertpython
Nah, Asus is better ;)
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#47 desertpython
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Fine, but you do not need to pay more for the 890GX chipset when you won't be using the onboard GPU. I also prefer Gigabyte. And the 955 is fine.

Daytona_178

Nah, Asus is better ;)

In what way? Pretty equal.

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#48 metroidprime55
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Fine, but you do not need to pay more for the 890GX chipset when you won't be using the onboard GPU. I also prefer Gigabyte. And the 955 is fine.

desertpython

Well what is the most recent line of AMD processers.

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#49 desertpython
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965 is at the top, 955 is slightly slower.

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#50 metroidprime55
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965 is at the top, 955 is slightly slower.

desertpython

But the processor I was going to get had six cores running at 3.20GHz, the 955 has four, should I go with:

The six core processor running at 3.2GHz or,

the quad core processor running at 3.4GHz?