the force unleash 2 walks the line.. system requirements!!

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#1 ionusX
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recommendeds sit on borderline poor optimization.. hd 4800 series or gtx 200 series :o i stand unimpresse but hesitant..

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/66075

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Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 5200+2 gb ram256 MB Video Memory with Shader 3.0 support - ATI Radeon HD 2600 / NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTHard disk space: 10GB + 1GB SwapfileOperating system: Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista SP2, or Windows 7Sound: 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible Audio DeviceDirectX: DirectX 9.0c (March 2009)

recommendedProcessor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.8 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 6000+Video: 256 MB Video Memory with Shader 3.0 support - ATI Radeon HD 4800 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

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#2 Phoenix534
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How is a rec of 4800 bad? It's 2010. If you don't have a card that matches them then you need to upgrade.

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#3 with_teeth26
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those are extremely reasonable although the gap between minimum and recommended is really small. Maybe it will follow in its predecessors shoes and skip out on graphics options.

glad to see a Core 2 Duo as recommended, makes me feel better about hanging on to mine.

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#4 coreybg
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Seeing 2010 system reqs make me want a new GPU =\

But system reqs are not always entirely correct, we have to wait and see :P

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#5 Phoenix534
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Seeing 2010 system reqs make me want a new GPU =\

But system reqs are not always entirely correct, we have to wait and see :P

coreybg

You should be able to play it just fine. Obviously not on max, but it'll still look good and play well.

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#6 ionusX
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[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Seeing 2010 system reqs make me want a new GPU =\

But system reqs are not always entirely correct, we have to wait and see :P

Phoenix534

You should be able to play it just fine. Obviously not on max, but it'll still look good and play well.

also as a heads up man i more than exceed these requirements (hd 5830, core 2 quad q8400)

but still its a console port i dont see a reason for the hd 4800 or gtx 200

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This shouldn't surprise anyone, because:

-The ported version of the original Force Unleashed was probably the worst port job ever. I think the system requirements/recommendations for the first game were at least as high as those just released for TFU2. Although, in fairness.. The game ran at roughly the same speed on the 3.8ghz E8400/5870 rig that I had at the time, as it did on my brother's Athlon II X2 240/9600gt rig. The optimization was non-existent. Anybody else remember the install size being something like 20-30gb?

-The first one came with no graphics options to speak of. None. Just a resolution setting in the game launcher.

-Even on a high-end system the first one ran like crap at times, and was capped at 30fps.

The game itself was nothing more than a button-masher like God of War, but in the Star Wars extended universe. The first game was nothing special, and the sequel will likely use the same lackluster formula. Can we PLEEEEEEEAAAASE have a new Dark Forces/Jedi Knight game?

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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Seeing 2010 system reqs make me want a new GPU =\

But system reqs are not always entirely correct, we have to wait and see :P

ionusX

You should be able to play it just fine. Obviously not on max, but it'll still look good and play well.

also as a heads up man i more than exceed these requirements (hd 5830, core 2 quad q8400)

but still its a console port i dont see a reason for the hd 4800 or gtx 200

exactly i feel the same. While both gtx260 and 48xx are by no means expensive since those are in the $120-150 range nothing justifies from the screens saw so far and from the 1st game those requirements. Hell i even wouldnt justify using an 8800gt as recommended let alone a gtx260
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Apparently i pass for minimum requirments:?

http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/analysis.aspx

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4870 2.2 GB

Disk space of 738.2 GB

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Apparently i pass for minimum requirments:?

http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/analysis.aspx

with a

4870 2.2 GB

Disk space of 738.2 GB

2.66GHz Intel Core Duo

4.0 GB of RAM

and 4.0 shader support

strangeisland
You should be able to run it nicely
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Hope my 8800GTX, Q6600 and 8GB RAM can handle it....
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a dual core instead of a quadcore and a 8600 gt instead of 8800 gt. Sounds reasonable.
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Hope my 8800GTX, Q6600 and 8GB RAM can handle it....FelipeInside

If it's anything like the first (ported) TFU game, it will run just as badly on your system as anybody else's. Meaning that the first game didn't seem to run much better on high-end stuff than the minimum stated requirements. I tested it on multiple PCs with different configurations. Just a horribly optimized port of a mediocre game to start with.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Hope my 8800GTX, Q6600 and 8GB RAM can handle it....hartsickdiscipl

If it's anything like the first (ported) TFU game, it will run just as badly on your system as anybody else's. Meaning that the first game didn't seem to run much better on high-end stuff than the minimum stated requirements. I tested it on multiple PCs with different configurations. Just a horribly optimized port of a mediocre game to start with.

Yeah I know, just hoping this one will be better, since it's coming out at roughly the same time as the console ones and not a port 6 months down the track...
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Seeing 2010 system reqs make me want a new GPU =\

But system reqs are not always entirely correct, we have to wait and see :P

coreybg
I'm in the same boat as you.
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Sounds alright, but a lot depends on the game. If its a 25GB of mess like the last game, I am not going to be picking it up at all.
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#17 agpickle
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Eh... The minimum for Just Cause 2 is a 8800gt, and I can run it very well on medium/high. Hopefuly it will be something like that...

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#18 deactivated-5e376fa88bd45
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Man am I glad to see that it's hard drive requirements aren't nearly as ludicrous as the first game. Seriously at 23.8 gigs for the first one it was a bloody waste.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Hope my 8800GTX, Q6600 and 8GB RAM can handle it....hartsickdiscipl

If it's anything like the first (ported) TFU game, it will run just as badly on your system as anybody else's. Meaning that the first game didn't seem to run much better on high-end stuff than the minimum stated requirements. I tested it on multiple PCs with different configurations. Just a horribly optimized port of a mediocre game to start with.

have you bothered to play TFU with all the patches recently? I bought it in the steam sale and it ran smooth as butter. Yea I kinda have a decent rig, but I had no problem with it. The only thing I disliked was the non-removable 30 FPS cap.

Btw I would recommend TFU to any SW fan. Its story is better than any of the prequals and its a good game to boot. The only gameplay complaint was the targetting system was a bit wonky

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Hope my 8800GTX, Q6600 and 8GB RAM can handle it....bonafidetk

If it's anything like the first (ported) TFU game, it will run just as badly on your system as anybody else's. Meaning that the first game didn't seem to run much better on high-end stuff than the minimum stated requirements. I tested it on multiple PCs with different configurations. Just a horribly optimized port of a mediocre game to start with.

have you bothered to play TFU with all the patches recently? I bought it in the steam sale and it ran smooth as butter. Yea I kinda have a decent rig, but I had no problem with it. The only thing I disliked was the non-removable 30 FPS cap.

Btw I would recommend TFU to any SW fan. Its story is better than any of the prequals and its a good game to boot. The only gameplay complaint was the targetting system was a bit wonky

Yes, I played TFU with all of the patches. It made the game playable, but certainly not nearly as well-optimized as most PC releases. It was still a joke. I have very little positive to say about the story, and much less good to say about the execution. The game has a heavy case of console-itis. Button-mashing, shallow gameplay. It made me want to go back and replay Jedi Outcast and Academy to remember what a good Star Wars game was like. So I did.

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The min specs for the GPU are actually lower than the first game. It was 8800 and 2900, this time 8600 and 2600 cards. So one year on and a computer required to run a sequel to a game that has been developed on the same console platforms suddenly requires a slower graphics card to run it? Of course the reason is pretty much because the original was a bad port, seems they may have done at least some optimisation this time.
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#22 gmaster456
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[QUOTE="bonafidetk"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

If it's anything like the first (ported) TFU game, it will run just as badly on your system as anybody else's. Meaning that the first game didn't seem to run much better on high-end stuff than the minimum stated requirements. I tested it on multiple PCs with different configurations. Just a horribly optimized port of a mediocre game to start with.

hartsickdiscipl

have you bothered to play TFU with all the patches recently? I bought it in the steam sale and it ran smooth as butter. Yea I kinda have a decent rig, but I had no problem with it. The only thing I disliked was the non-removable 30 FPS cap.

Btw I would recommend TFU to any SW fan. Its story is better than any of the prequals and its a good game to boot. The only gameplay complaint was the targetting system was a bit wonky

Yes, I played TFU with all of the patches. It made the game playable, but certainly not nearly as well-optimized as most PC releases. It was still a joke. I have very little positive to say about the story, and much less good to say about the execution. The game has a heavy case of console-itis. Button-mashing, shallow gameplay. It made me want to go back and replay Jedi Outcast and Academy to remember what a good Star Wars game was like. So I did.

Button mashing was my biggest issue for both the console release and on PC
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[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]The min specs for the GPU are actually lower than the first game. It was 8800 and 2900, this time 8600 and 2600 cards. So one year on and a computer required to run a sequel to a game that has been developed on the same console platforms suddenly requires a slower graphics card to run it? Of course the reason is pretty much because the original was a bad port, seems they may have done at least some optimisation this time.

Correct. I still can't believe they said a $4000 PC was needed to run the first one....
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I hope this time it doesn't take 26 GB to install
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#25 FelipeInside
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I hope this time it doesn't take 26 GB to installguildclaws
Well that's the whole thing right there. If they had bothered to optimize the first one, they would have compressed the graphics etc etc and made it like a normal PC game. But since it was a straight unoptimized port....that's why it was so big !!!
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Hope my 8800GTX, Q6600 and 8GB RAM can handle it....bonafidetk

If it's anything like the first (ported) TFU game, it will run just as badly on your system as anybody else's. Meaning that the first game didn't seem to run much better on high-end stuff than the minimum stated requirements. I tested it on multiple PCs with different configurations. Just a horribly optimized port of a mediocre game to start with.

have you bothered to play TFU with all the patches recently? I bought it in the steam sale and it ran smooth as butter. Yea I kinda have a decent rig, but I had no problem with it. The only thing I disliked was the non-removable 30 FPS cap.

Btw I would recommend TFU to any SW fan. Its story is better than any of the prequals and its a good game to boot. The only gameplay complaint was the targetting system was a bit wonky

Patches or no, it's still a terrible port. The patches simply made the game actually playable for a number of people that were having issues with it. 30 FPS cap, no graphical options, I still have issues with the sound cutting out. It's a mess, and it's hard to imagine that it was actually worse when it was first ported.

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#27 Hakkai007
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The first game ran smoothly for me so hopefully this one runs smoothly too.

And hopefully there are more video settings.

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The case of bad port and poor optimization?
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#29 -CheeseEater-
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Those specs are for recommended. It's how the developers best want you to experience the game on PC. Sheesh.
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[QUOTE="bonafidetk"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

If it's anything like the first (ported) TFU game, it will run just as badly on your system as anybody else's. Meaning that the first game didn't seem to run much better on high-end stuff than the minimum stated requirements. I tested it on multiple PCs with different configurations. Just a horribly optimized port of a mediocre game to start with.

hartsickdiscipl

have you bothered to play TFU with all the patches recently? I bought it in the steam sale and it ran smooth as butter. Yea I kinda have a decent rig, but I had no problem with it. The only thing I disliked was the non-removable 30 FPS cap.

Btw I would recommend TFU to any SW fan. Its story is better than any of the prequals and its a good game to boot. The only gameplay complaint was the targetting system was a bit wonky

Yes, I played TFU with all of the patches. It made the game playable, but certainly not nearly as well-optimized as most PC releases. It was still a joke. I have very little positive to say about the story, and much less good to say about the execution. The game has a heavy case of console-itis. Button-mashing, shallow gameplay. It made me want to go back and replay Jedi Outcast and Academy to remember what a good Star Wars game was like. So I did.

actually no, the game is not button mashing on the harder settings. You have to always think about the moves and skills youre using. Something I cant say for the Jedi outcast/academy games Ive played. My guess is you didnt finish it or dont like SW very much if you didnt think the story was good. Ive never played a SW game with such a good original story.
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[QUOTE="guildclaws"]I hope this time it doesn't take 26 GB to installFelipeInside
Well that's the whole thing right there. If they had bothered to optimize the first one, they would have compressed the graphics etc etc and made it like a normal PC game. But since it was a straight unoptimized port....that's why it was so big !!!

It surely was a bad port, but those f***** over at Aspyr don't know how to do their work right. Instead of porting the X360 version, they ported it from the PS3.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="bonafidetk"] have you bothered to play TFU with all the patches recently? I bought it in the steam sale and it ran smooth as butter. Yea I kinda have a decent rig, but I had no problem with it. The only thing I disliked was the non-removable 30 FPS cap.

Btw I would recommend TFU to any SW fan. Its story is better than any of the prequals and its a good game to boot. The only gameplay complaint was the targetting system was a bit wonky

bonafidetk

Yes, I played TFU with all of the patches. It made the game playable, but certainly not nearly as well-optimized as most PC releases. It was still a joke. I have very little positive to say about the story, and much less good to say about the execution. The game has a heavy case of console-itis. Button-mashing, shallow gameplay. It made me want to go back and replay Jedi Outcast and Academy to remember what a good Star Wars game was like. So I did.

actually no, the game is not button mashing on the harder settings. You have to always think about the moves and skills youre using. Something I cant say for the Jedi outcast/academy games Ive played. My guess is you didnt finish it or dont like SW very much if you didnt think the story was good. Ive never played a SW game with such a good original story.

I'm a huge Star Wars fan, and I did finish the game. And yes, it is still a bunch of button-mashing.. just harder button-mashing on the higher difficulty levels. It's an arcade-like game, lacking depth and substance. It's literally God of War in the Star Wars universe. It plays almost exactly like it. It's a console game, and not a very good one at that. The reviews bear that out. Jedi Outcast and Academy on the other hand, have real Star Wars ambience, a well-paced story, and excellent gameplay more reminiscent of the movies.

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Im willing to bet it will run like crap like the first, and will be just as boring.

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Seeing 2010 system reqs make me want a new GPU =\

But system reqs are not always entirely correct, we have to wait and see :P

coreybg
Dang buddy, you should consider selling that card to a museum. :P
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#35 mattuk69
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System requirments seem fair to me its a good looking game. Ill be getting on the PS3 tho when the move patch comes out.

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#36 Hakkai007
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If the game is a direct port without any extra settings it should only require something around a 7800gt at console resolutions.

If it has higher video settings I might understand the need for higher requirements.

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#37 FelipeInside
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If the game is a direct port without any extra settings it should only require something around a 7800gt at console resolutions.

If it has higher video settings I might understand the need for higher requirements.

Hakkai007
Even if it's something like Metal Gear Solid 4....from the PS3? That game has freaking awesome graphics so I don't think a 7800gt could handle it personally...
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#38 dinuattila
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Well the reqs seem fair to be honest, but a demo wouldn't hurt really.

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#39 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

If the game is a direct port without any extra settings it should only require something around a 7800gt at console resolutions.

If it has higher video settings I might understand the need for higher requirements.

FelipeInside

Even if it's something like Metal Gear Solid 4....from the PS3? That game has freaking awesome graphics so I don't think a 7800gt could handle it personally...

The GPU in a PS3 is based on the same GPU that the 7800/7900gt were. I'm thinking that's why the other poster referenced that particular GPU. I'm personally in agreement with him. 7800gt/7900gt, or the roughly equivalent 8600gt.

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Well the reqs seem fair to be honest, but a demo wouldn't hurt really.

dinuattila

There are a ton of games coming now nowadays without demos. It's very disturbing to me, and is actually keeping me from buying many games. The new Medal of Honor game is another one that comes to mind.

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#41 Hakkai007
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

If the game is a direct port without any extra settings it should only require something around a 7800gt at console resolutions.

If it has higher video settings I might understand the need for higher requirements.

FelipeInside

Even if it's something like Metal Gear Solid 4....from the PS3? That game has freaking awesome graphics so I don't think a 7800gt could handle it personally...

The graphics for that game were meh.

A 7800gt should be able to handle it at the resolution the PS3 was playing at.

The PS3 uses a GPU that is like a 7800gt with gimped settings.

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#42 DaRockWilder
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I don't see anything wrong with those requirements...a Radeon HD 4870 is about $120 these days.
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#43 dinuattila
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[QUOTE="dinuattila"]

Well the reqs seem fair to be honest, but a demo wouldn't hurt really.

hartsickdiscipl

There are a ton of games coming now nowadays without demos. It's very disturbing to me, and is actually keeping me from buying many games. The new Medal of Honor game is another one that comes to mind.

Yes, but MoH had "at least" the beta. And to be honest TFU2 could have used a demo, simply because lots of PC players will judge the title harsh just because the original title turned out to be a bad port to say the least.

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#44 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

If the game is a direct port without any extra settings it should only require something around a 7800gt at console resolutions.

If it has higher video settings I might understand the need for higher requirements.

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Even if it's something like Metal Gear Solid 4....from the PS3? That game has freaking awesome graphics so I don't think a 7800gt could handle it personally...

The graphics for that game were meh.

A 7800gt should be able to handle it at the resolution the PS3 was playing at.

The PS3 uses a GPU that is like a 7800gt with gimped settings.

Right....but the PC would play it a much higher resolution, so wouldn't it need a stronger card? Don't know why you thought graphics were meh..... they looked amazing !!!
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#45 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Even if it's something like Metal Gear Solid 4....from the PS3? That game has freaking awesome graphics so I don't think a 7800gt could handle it personally...FelipeInside

The graphics for that game were meh.

A 7800gt should be able to handle it at the resolution the PS3 was playing at.

The PS3 uses a GPU that is like a 7800gt with gimped settings.

Right....but the PC would play it a much higher resolution, so wouldn't it need a stronger card? Don't know why you thought graphics were meh..... they looked amazing !!!

The PC wouldn't HAVE to play the game at a much higher resolution. Most PC gamers do play well above 720p, but we don't have to. It just looks better, especially since we're sitting so close to the screen in comparison to console gamers who can sit back 6+ feet from their TV. When I play console games and I get up really close the screen, the games look pretty awful. The textures are muddy, there are jagged lines all over the place.. all sorts of things.

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#46 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

The graphics for that game were meh.

A 7800gt should be able to handle it at the resolution the PS3 was playing at.

The PS3 uses a GPU that is like a 7800gt with gimped settings.

hartsickdiscipl

Right....but the PC would play it a much higher resolution, so wouldn't it need a stronger card? Don't know why you thought graphics were meh..... they looked amazing !!!

The PC wouldn't HAVE to play the game at a much higher resolution. Most PC gamers do play well above 720p, but we don't have to. It just looks better, especially since we're sitting so close to the screen in comparison to console gamers who can sit back 6+ feet from their TV. When I play console games and I get up really close the screen, the games look pretty awful. The textures are muddy, there are jagged lines all over the place.. all sorts of things.

Gotcha. I just see some amazing looking game on PS3 and wonder, cause sometimes some PC games which aren't as pretty struggle on PC. I guess it always comes down to optimization....
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The game is very very physics heavy. I'm thinking it might be because of all the post-processing and physics effects going on.
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The Force Unleashed actually wasn't that hardware intense on my old machine. It was just straight up poor programming/porting. I think I played a 1/3rd of the game without sound because of some glitch. At least it was only like $5... I have no intentions of purchasing the sequel on PC.
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#49 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]The Force Unleashed actually wasn't that hardware intense on my old machine. It was just straight up poor programming/porting. I think I played a 1/3rd of the game without sound because of some glitch. At least it was only like $5... I have no intentions of purchasing the sequel on PC.

Even if the optimization is PERFECT on the Sequel?
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#50 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]The Force Unleashed actually wasn't that hardware intense on my old machine. It was just straight up poor programming/porting. I think I played a 1/3rd of the game without sound because of some glitch. At least it was only like $5... I have no intentions of purchasing the sequel on PC.

I just saw ur sig (StarCraft Pic) and I realized that CGI Moment is not on the game right?