The REAL reason you hate WoW

I guess MMO's are something you either fall in love with instantly or find boring from the start. I do think it's worth paying for monthly though, it's been very entertaining for me for years. It's cheaper than buying a new game every 2 months anyway.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"] So all the high review scores, awards and record breaking sales and subscription numbers must be wrong. Stop trolling, you're not good at it.-Unreal-

The high sales and subscriptions have nothing to do with quality. Call of Duty 4 has high sales and players, it's not good either. Awards are awarded to easily, and reviewers are easily manipulated.

Yeah, cause a game is quality if all you do is click and loot stuff. Those are the majority of things you do in most MMOs(The exceptions being Fallen Earth, The Agency, and The Secret World)Call of Duty 4, I just have a personal grudge against it and Infinity Ward.

Yeah, cause a game is quality if all you do is click and loot stuff. Those are the majority of things you do in most MMOs(The exceptions being Fallen Earth, The Agency, and The Secret World)Call of Duty 4, I just have a personal grudge against it and Infinity Ward.

Phoenix534

That's too generalized, and you criticized CoD4's quality because you have a personal grudge against it.

Now that I think about it, you were also the one who said "Keep in mind that 60% of Stacraft players are koreans"...

Your logic seems more and more flawed with each post.

I don't care about it anymore, I wasted a lot of money and time on it tho.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Yeah, cause a game is quality if all you do is click and loot stuff. Those are the majority of things you do in most MMOs(The exceptions being Fallen Earth, The Agency, and The Secret World)Call of Duty 4, I just have a personal grudge against it and Infinity Ward.

Mograine

That's too generalized, and you criticized CoD4's quality because you have a personal grudge against it.

Now that I think about it, you were also the one who said "Keep in mind that 60% of Stacraft players are koreans"...

Your logic seems more and more flawed with each post.

1) It's more than just a grudge. I have played it, and I do think it sucks, which is partially why I have a grudge against it. The grudge is mainly focused at Infinity Ward.

2) I've tried a lot of MMOs, and they all narrow down to one thing. Click, click, click, loot, click.

3) I said "Keep in mind that 60% of Starcraft players are koreans :P" It doesn't work without the :P

1) It's more than just a grudge. I have played it, and I do think it sucks, which is partially why I have a grudge against it. The grudge is mainly focused at Infinity Ward.

2) I've tried a lot of MMOs, and they all narrow down to one thing. Click, click, click, loot, click.

3) I said "Keep in mind that 60% of Starcraft players are koreans :P" It doesn't work without the :P

Phoenix534

Nope, sorry, there's no :P .

Thread page, post number 2.

And point 2 is still too generalized. A similar example would be:

"In pokemon (judging from your profile, I understand you know it a bit) you click directional buttons and press a or b and loot other pokemons with balls".

While you do click a mouse button to perform actions on most MMO's, how is that much differnet from using a controller to push buttons on any console games. It's all just a means of controlling a character in the end. To say clicking is all there is to an MMO is completely short sighted. In end game raiding there is more strategy involved then in any FPS or fighting game I have ever played, and the fact that you require other people to be on top of their game, and not just you, adds a whole other dimension to MMO gameplay that you don't find in many other types of games. I would say the only genre of games that even remotley requires as much strategy, good gamesmanship, and dedication are RTS'.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

1) It's more than just a grudge. I have played it, and I do think it sucks, which is partially why I have a grudge against it. The grudge is mainly focused at Infinity Ward.

2) I've tried a lot of MMOs, and they all narrow down to one thing. Click, click, click, loot, click.

3) I said "Keep in mind that 60% of Starcraft players are koreans :P" It doesn't work without the :P

Mograine

Nope, sorry, there's no :P .

Thread page, post number 2.

And point 2 is still too generalized. A similar example would be:

"In pokemon (judging from your profile, I understand you know it a bit) you click directional buttons and press a or b and loot other pokemons with balls".

WTF!? Where is my :P? I 'member putting a :P. I would never say something that idiotic without an :P. Also, that Pokemon thing is kinda true.

WTF!? Where is my :P? I 'member putting a :P. I would never say something that idiotic without an :P. Also, that Pokemon thing is kinda true.

Phoenix534

And? You are criticizing WoW's quality because it's a "click and loot stuff" kind of game and you gave a 9.5 to Pokemon Sapphire version admitting it's a "click directional buttons, +a,b and loot pokemons with pokeballs"?

This is not system wars, where a total logic failure can be considered a well written post and you have to somehow "justify" your purchase by bashing the other console. At least try to be an informed hater :P

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

WTF!? Where is my :P? I 'member putting a :P. I would never say something that idiotic without an :P. Also, that Pokemon thing is kinda true.

Mograine

And? You are criticizing WoW's quality because it's a "click and loot stuff" kind of game and you gave a 9.5 to Pokemon Sapphire version admitting it's a "click directional buttons, +a,b and loot pokemons with pokeballs"?

This is not system wars, where a total logic failure can be considered a well written post and you have to somehow "justify" your purchase by bashing the other console. At least try to be an informed hater :P

I don't hate(except Call of Duty), I opinionize(except Call of Duty) about why I don't like a game(like Call of Duty) and why I like other games(that aren't Call of Duty). While it is true that Pokemon and WoW have similar mechanics(that aren't like Call of Duty's) I prefer Pokemon's gameplay to WoW's(and Call of Duty's)

I don't hate, I opinionize about why I don't like a game and why I like other games. While it is true that Pokemon and WoW have similar mechanics I prefer Pokemon's gameplay to WoW'sPhoenix534

Yeah, cause a game is quality if all you do is click and loot stuff. Those are the majority of things you do in most MMOs(The exceptions being Fallen Earth, The Agency, and The Secret World) Phoenix534

You are criticizing WoW's quality because it's a "click and loot stuff" kind of game and you gave a 9.5 to Pokemon Sapphire version admitting it's a "click directional buttons, +a,b and loot pokemons with pokeballs"?Mograine

Also, that Pokemon thing is kinda true.Phoenix534

Brains hurts :cry:

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]I don't hate, I opinionize about why I don't like a game and why I like other games. While it is true that Pokemon and WoW have similar mechanics I prefer Pokemon's gameplay to WoW'sMograine

Yeah, cause a game is quality if all you do is click and loot stuff. Those are the majority of things you do in most MMOs(The exceptions being Fallen Earth, The Agency, and The Secret World) Phoenix534

You are criticizing WoW's quality because it's a "click and loot stuff" kind of game and you gave a 9.5 to Pokemon Sapphire version admitting it's a "click directional buttons, +a,b and loot pokemons with pokeballs"?Mograine

Also, that Pokemon thing is kinda true.Phoenix534

Brains hurts :cry:

I gave Mograine a Migraine:D

I gave Mograine a Migraine:D

Phoenix534

I hate you.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

I gave Mograine a Migraine:D

Mograine

I hate you.

I know you don't mean that.:)

Because after playing the trial I found that I hadn't showered in days.

It takes too much time to do so little.

I simply hate it because you have to devote so much time to it before you can accomplish anything...

I simply hate it because you have to devote so much time to it before you can accomplish anything...

Buttons1990

:| That's a positive thing.

[QUOTE="Kserijaro"]Yeah, WoW is as addictive as heroin,so it makes people loose money and friends.Mmo's are bad overall.You have to loose to much time to accomplish-nothing! It is just an open world with stretching levels to make players hunt for armor more longer .There is no point in playing WoW.You aren't doing anything.There is no end cinematic.There is no plot unveiled.It is just grind grind grind.It always had bad graphics,but In the begging WoW was great game,you had to work hard to find attunaments to enter instances for better gear.You had to do quests to access areas and pvp grounds.Now they made is casual crap where lvl 1 squirrel drops Athas's helm and swrod."Oh nice epic drop!" yells a 14y.o. noob.They bassicaly put out showgril lights above instances "FARM HERE FREE MONEY AND ITEMS!" The worst thing is I think,giving a lvl 55 hero as a begin for a new character."Here there are 80 lvls but we hand out lvl 55 heroes so you can play on,farm more and check out how awesome this tower looks" There is a saying "Money and power corrupts" It certainly made Blizzard mindless money devouring lazy dudes.I mean who with any brains at all will try to improve the player count by adding retarded ACHIEVEMENTS like "Jump from a highest mountain".I really can't picture: A tale about an epic hero who started young,fought his way trough gazillion monsters,killed a couple of dragons,raged against titans and machines alike,and when our warrior reached everything he could do...He opened his scrapbook,dirty and bloody....and frowned,with a pitch of sadness in his eyes.He went to the market to buy every possible ride he could.He bought 12 bears,20 dragons and several hundred horses and he yelled "I HAVE EVERY MOUNT POSSIBLE!" City people looked him as if he was a lost deluded old man.returning his mounts in the backpack,our noble hero had one last battle.He climbed the highest mountain,and jumped.He died.Ta nanana na na na anaaa nananaaa.*Ending epic theme song* Case closed.PS.I disliked how they scaled heroes from WC III to look like they have been on steroids and suddenly are ugly.Illidan looks like 100 meter tall winged troll drag queen .Wtf??Mograine

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I made my point right?Kserijaro

No, you made my eyes bleed :D

Within WoW's casualization lies most of its success after it hit the 1 million mark, but yes that's the reason I quit too.

[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="Kserijaro"]Yeah, WoW is as addictive as heroin,so it makes people loose money and friends.Mmo's are bad overall.You have to loose to much time to accomplish-nothing! It is just an open world with stretching levels to make players hunt for armor more longer .There is no point in playing WoW.You aren't doing anything.There is no end cinematic.There is no plot unveiled.It is just grind grind grind.It always had bad graphics,but In the begging WoW was great game,you had to work hard to find attunaments to enter instances for better gear.You had to do quests to access areas and pvp grounds.Now they made is casual crap where lvl 1 squirrel drops Athas's helm and swrod."Oh nice epic drop!" yells a 14y.o. noob.They bassicaly put out showgril lights above instances "FARM HERE FREE MONEY AND ITEMS!" The worst thing is I think,giving a lvl 55 hero as a begin for a new character."Here there are 80 lvls but we hand out lvl 55 heroes so you can play on,farm more and check out how awesome this tower looks" There is a saying "Money and power corrupts" It certainly made Blizzard mindless money devouring lazy dudes.I mean who with any brains at all will try to improve the player count by adding retarded ACHIEVEMENTS like "Jump from a highest mountain".I really can't picture: A tale about an epic hero who started young,fought his way trough gazillion monsters,killed a couple of dragons,raged against titans and machines alike,and when our warrior reached everything he could do...He opened his scrapbook,dirty and bloody....and frowned,with a pitch of sadness in his eyes.He went to the market to buy every possible ride he could.He bought 12 bears,20 dragons and several hundred horses and he yelled "I HAVE EVERY MOUNT POSSIBLE!" City people looked him as if he was a lost deluded old man.returning his mounts in the backpack,our noble hero had one last battle.He climbed the highest mountain,and jumped.He died.Ta nanana na na na anaaa nananaaa.*Ending epic theme song* Case closed.PS.I disliked how they scaled heroes from WC III to look like they have been on steroids and suddenly are ugly.Illidan looks like 100 meter tall winged troll drag queen .Wtf??Kserijaro

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Yes you did. And a good one at that.

I've never really played it, and I don't hate it.

no one else has made a half decent mmo to beat this terrible mmo

im laying my hopes on GW2 to put an end to the madnesa

Aion is going to be awesome.

I played WoW from beta, but towards the end (earlier this summer), found myself filled with a strange mixture of hate and boredom every time I logged on. It was definitely time to quit. Now that I've quit, I understand that my problem was two-fold:

First, as an MMO, by its very nature WoW is a game you can never really finish. You are a rat on a treadmill, and unless you are one of the players who let their lives be consumed by the game, the carrot is always just out of reach--whether that carrot is new armor or PvP rewards or daily quests (daily? really?) or new raids or new dungeons, there will always be one more thing to do, and at least one player that has better gear, l33t-er mounts, a bigger "sword," etc. Playing WoW is like trying to step on your shadow or grab a moth--the goal is always just out of reach, even if you have it in your hand for a second.

Obviously, never-ending content is the point of any MMO, and I'm not knocking a formula that obviously works (at least for Blizzard). I guess it's just not for me. It's telling that in five years of playing, I never once reached any of the end content. It just took too much time and grind, and I sucked at PvP. Yes, I know, L2p, etc, etc.

Second, I started chafing at the entire concept of the tightly controlled server environment that is necessary for an MMO. In different terms--it's Blizzard's world, and you only live in it. There are strict limits to what you can do (even more specifically, what your class and race can do), where you can go, how you get there, what you can do once you get there, and how you can go about doing it. Again, I understand that this is necessary to keep the game problem-free for everyone, but after a while, it got under my skin. I didn't like the feeling that there were GMs lurking somewhere in ether, making sure I played nicely with everyone, or that a toon that I spent countless hours improving could be nerfed with a single developer mouse click.I found release by going back to shooters and sandbox games and just blowing everything the f*ck up in one big fireball and laughing manically like a mad scientist. Oh, it was sweet. :-)

/shrug

Aion is going to be awesome.

OnlyKurial

no one else has made a half decent mmo to beat this terrible mmo

marcellis

The only reason I hate it is because it is for massive nerds, seriously World of Warcraft is the crappest online game ever...

The only reason I hate it is because it is for massive nerds, seriously World of Warcraft is the crappest online game ever...

Rollsta96

Aion is going to be awesome.

OnlyKurial

Go play Lineage2 and if u dont like it then Aion is not going to be awesome cuz its a copy of it...

You aren't cool unless you hate WOW. There, I said it. .... what better way to ingratiate myself with the unwashed masses, than to get mad at WOW? I'm not good at jackass stunts. I'm not good looking. I can't get you into any cool betas. So… /sigh, I hate you WOW.

I hate people that play WOW, and the people who developed WOW and continue to work on it, and the people who pay the people who make WOW so that they can play WOW, and the people who defend WOW, and the people who live in Irvine, CA (where Blizzard's home office is located), and the people who go to Blizzcon, and the people who like WOTLK, and the people who hate WOTLK, and on and on and on. taken from : http://www.mmocrunch.com/2009/03/29/you-arent-cool-unless-you-hate-wow/

Disclaimer : These are not my views. Just posted it as I found it funny.

My thought is that Wow is a nice game to try out the c!asses, go through the Warcraft lore etc. Sure, I would have preferred to to view the Warcraft world unfold in RTS more than a MMO, but I don't expect Blizzard to not progress the story ahead in their MMO. Also, do find all the hate funny and kind'a stupid especially seeing some people saying you can get great gears and high level characters easily just by playing 1-2 hours a day and others saying there is too much grinding to do anything :lol:

naval

if you die it doesn't matter you just go back and try again, In Everquest if you Died it meant big trouble and though it was a hassle at times its what made the game great and made everyone pay attention and it made the game more fun.

Today's MMO's is just unplayble for me.

Zemus

[QUOTE="OnlyKurial"]

Aion is going to be awesome.

XBryanFuryX

Go play Lineage2 and if u dont like it then Aion is not going to be awesome cuz its a copy of it...

Thesis: people "hate" WoW because they lost a friend/family member to the vice that is the game. Believe me I sympathize, I've lost a few friends to the game, but the ravenous hate for the game cannot be justified because of the gameplay, which is unarguablly high quality and fun (for awhile at least).I can understand a small percentage of people genuinely not liking the game, but I think most of the hate stems from seeing a friend give up their social/etc. life.haberman13

Thats a worthy try. I can see it applying to some people. For me, I just find WoW boring, I dont hate it, but I dont like it. I have not "lost" any friends to WoW because I dont really have any friends anyways. :D

I don't hate wow, it has provided me with MANY hours of entertainment. But I am beginning to dislike how the core gameplay and leveling zones have stayed the same after all these years. It just feels as if I've done everything the game has to offer, so there's really no drive for me to play it much more. Although I WILL roll a worgen deathknight faster than I can say WTF.

The ridiculous amount of time it takes to do anything. It's great for me during the summer when I have extra time but during classes and friends - I wouldn't get my $15 worth for sure.

Lost a lot of good friends to WoW. Goddamn Blizzard....

Cant wait till Diablo 3.

Lost a lot of good friends to WoW. Goddamn Blizzard....

Cant wait till Diablo 3.

TruedUp