The (Un)Official Bad Company 2 Beta Discussion

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#151 Ondoval
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Some things about the accuracy:

1-Aiming in iron sights view and firing in VERY SHORT burst (2-4 bullets) is EXTREMELY accurate at distances up to 50 mts, and you can kill any player with 2-3 of these burst at these distance.

2-On the other hand, full auto fire + you running or sprinting is uber unaccurate even at 2 feets of your target.

3-The game claims ballistic drop over distance, but the basic sniper rifle can shot from the first promontory to the first line of 3 floor buildings in the first defender's respawn post with minimal drop.

4-Knife is instakill and very usefull instead reloading or changing to pistol in cqc.

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#152 T3AMKILL
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Ondoval, what settings are you running the game?
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#153 Ondoval
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Ondoval, what settings are you running the game?T3AMKILL


All maxed at 1680 x 1050:

The system is a Q6600 oced to 3.0 Ghz with 4 GB DDR 800 Mhz and a GTX 275, running under XP 32 bit.

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#154 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

Are the walls as low detailed as in ps3? Or the requirements are justified?

kevy619

No, texture detail is higher and PS3 lacks any antialiasing filter and doesn't support ambient occlusion shading, plus anisotropic filter -if any- is a lot more weak in the console. This doesn't mean that the level of detail in PC's BC 2 is as high as in other top notch PC games, as Mirror's Edge, but in you take into consideration the scale and the amount of people interacting the picture is overall very impressive.

I wasn't technically impressed with mirrors edge, a few nice textures painted on a relatively unimpressive game engine doesn't do it for me (it fools alot of others). I'm sick of the ue3 engine, nice textures aren't the only thing needed for good graphics.

It was very detailed. That was the point, not to roam in a huge map and destroy every building you found. Ofcourse interaction takes away some detail!
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#155 dakan45
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-The weapons feel accurate in iron sights but takes half magazine to kill people at mid ranges -in full auto- so if you don't headshot the people I think that the overall damage is a bit lower than in BF 2, but the aiming is sharper.Ondoval

Just like i said, it plays like a console game. Eg like far cry 2. The weapons are accurate and weak. I guees they tweaked a bit for the pc version.

Anyway it does not have better ballistics than cod just like swifstrike said. Or atleast i dont consider weapons that fire weak and accurate bullets, "better ballistics" than cod.

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#156 Dante2710
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Beta is so fun.

1- loving how it forces you to use burst instead of aim and spray, it forces you to pick your targets carefully

2- Liking the snipers

My only complaint is the gap between teams. When you have two equal teams and people are working as squad, the game is soo ****ing fun; but when the gap isnt even, and you are getting owned from every side, then it gets tedious an annoying. Overall im loving the beta, im a specialist 2 right now :)

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#157 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="T3AMKILL"]Ondoval, what settings are you running the game?Ondoval


All maxed at 1680 x 1050:

The system is a Q6600 oced to 3.0 Ghz with 4 GB DDR 800 Mhz and a GTX 275, running under XP 32 bit.

i think you should try lowering effects to low this will boost performance and imo i found it makes the game looks better then if its on high(badly implemented bloom). Then you could increase the AA a bit which this game needs.

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#158 Ondoval
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Currently I'm playing at average 45-50 fps, really don't need much more. The beta doesn't give the option to increase the AA over X1 -even probably I could enhance itusing the Nvidia harware panel.

But what you say about the AO is true, yue can see in this review that the visual differences between high abd low details aren't as big -aside from the lack of grass- and the game enhances a lot the framerrate with the AO off. So far I'm currently happy with the framerrate with settings maxed.

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#159 Swiftstrike5
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[QUOTE="Ondoval"]-The weapons feel accurate in iron sights but takes half magazine to kill people at mid ranges -in full auto- so if you don't headshot the people I think that the overall damage is a bit lower than in BF 2, but the aiming is sharper.dakan45

Just like i said, it plays like a console game. Eg like far cry 2. The weapons are accurate and weak. I guees they tweaked a bit for the pc version.

Anyway it does not have better ballistics than cod just like swifstrike said. Or atleast i dont consider weapons that fire weak and accurate bullets, "better ballistics" than cod.

BC2 is about as far from a console game as you can get. I'm impressed that DICE actually released this for a gamepad. A console game, CoD5 for example, only requires you to put your cross hair on the target and hold down the trigger until they're dead. At least BC2 gives me relief because I'm forced to lead a target, compensate for bullet drop, and fire in bursts to achieve a kill at a distance. If you're getting shot, the iron sights bounce around and makes it very difficult to shoot back (encourages sticking in groups). Heck, It only takes me 4-5 shots from an AR to drop someone. Call of Duty 5 also has NO teamwork on public games. Battlefield is better than TF2, IMO, at encouraging teamwork and sticking together. If you want, I could continue to list why BC2 is better than CoD5, but the only reason I can think of that CoD5 would be better than BC2 is because CoD5 is a simple, action oriented console experience.

FYI: Sniper rifles actually deal more damage in BC2, btw (1shot to chest is a kill). So do pistols, in my experience. I can kill 2-3 people with just 7 bullets from my M1911. I use my pistol in CQC and my assault rifle in medium to long range engagements.

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#161 Dante2710
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My god, the beta is sooo fun, i didnt realize how awesome the engineer class. I just finished a game with 24 medals. That last capture point was soooo intense.
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#162 pvtdonut54
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Bumping this thread for more info.

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#163 arya24
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can i get a beta invite plz?

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#164 Mousetaches
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Ehh, not as good as I figured. The sensitivity is way too low and the sprinting is awkward, other than that, I guess it's all right.
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#166 MyopicCanadian
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Ehh, not as good as I figured. The sensitivity is way too low and the sprinting is awkward, other than that, I guess it's all right.Mousetaches
they changed that with the latest patch... I had to turn down my sensitivity after adjusting it before.
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#167 Mousetaches
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[QUOTE="Mousetaches"]Ehh, not as good as I figured. The sensitivity is way too low and the sprinting is awkward, other than that, I guess it's all right.MyopicCanadian
they changed that with the latest patch... I had to turn down my sensitivity after adjusting it before.

I just played and the sensitivity is still cripplingly slow, i cant turn around without picking my mouse up.
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#168 Bigsteve3570
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How do you get into the beta? I'd like to know O_o. Eager to play this game.

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#169 MyopicCanadian
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[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"][QUOTE="Mousetaches"]Ehh, not as good as I figured. The sensitivity is way too low and the sprinting is awkward, other than that, I guess it's all right.Mousetaches
they changed that with the latest patch... I had to turn down my sensitivity after adjusting it before.

I just played and the sensitivity is still cripplingly slow, i cant turn around without picking my mouse up.

Are you sure you updated it? I was able to play without patching.. then I opened Steam, it downloaded a small patch, and when I went back into the game.. it was much better. The mounted weapons and vehicles and such still have slow movement, but I believe that's intended.
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#170 Daytona_178
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How do you get into the beta? I'd like to know O_o. Eager to play this game.

Bigsteve3570
Pre-order it.
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#171 Butter
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Anyone else having issues right now? The scoring and weapons system is all messed up and chat isn't working.....
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#172 morrowindnic
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Anyone else having issues right now? The scoring and weapons system is all messed up and chat isn't working.....Butter

What keys are you pressing to chat? They are J K L ; I think.

Some times the weapons don't update, to fix change your class and click a different weapon and then go back. Should fix it.

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#173 Butter
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Nah, I don't think it has anything to do client side. I think EA's servers are messed up. Seems to be affecting everyone.
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#174 The_Quarian
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I really need a key for this... :(
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#175 Combii
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I think it's awesome :D

But it's bad optimized for PC :(

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#176 matte3560
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Just got home after being away for most of the weekend. I'm having a blast with this game, I must say.

In other news, my 8800 GTX touched 100 degrees celsius with the fan at full speed 0.o I'm starting to need that 5970...

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#177 MykoStation
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Have any of you been in one of those hard core mode severs? They are pretty cool.

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#178 Daytona_178
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Have any of you been in one of those hard core mode severs? They are pretty cool.

MykoStation
So is it basically one hit kills then or something?
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#179 brandojones
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Everybody that's in the beta should put their system's performance here (follow the format):

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc-beta/883398-system-s-performance.html

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#180 brandojones
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Also just heard a guy that works at DICE: "The 'high' texture detail level isn't implemented in BFBC PC beta. Is in the final release so will be a bit sharper"

http://twitter.com/repi/status/8468691603

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#181 Daytona_178
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Also just heard a guy that works at DICE: "The 'high' texture detail level isn't implemented in BFBC PC beta. Is in the final release so will be a bit sharper"

http://twitter.com/repi/status/8468691603

brandojones
Ah, thats great news :D Iam just really hoping that they can improve the performance though :/
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#182 MrLions
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Some of the people on the Bad company 2 forums give me a bunch of face palm moments -_- This isn't what CoD:MW2 was suppose to be for the PC it's a battlefield game T_T
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#183 ColdfireTrilogy
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Just got home after being away for most of the weekend. I'm having a blast with this game, I must say.

In other news, my 8800 GTX touched 100 degrees celsius with the fan at full speed 0.o I'm starting to need that 5970...

matte3560
thats a GPU problem not the game causing that .... I had an OCd ultra (much hotter runnin as higher voltages) and it never ever made it to 85C even on games like crysis.
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#184 will952
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Look guys, simple truth is: the beta is pretty damn good fun.

But what some of you, and loads of people in the beta fail to realise, is that IT IS A BETA. Of course it will have issues, but they have month to sort them out.

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#185 THA-TODD-BEAST
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But what some of you, and loads of people in the beta fail to realise, is that IT IS A BETA. Of course it will have issues, but they have month to sort them out.

will952

What you, and many others fail to realize, is that a month is hardly enough time to sort out as many problems as this game has.

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#186 Ondoval
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I'm having a lot of fun with the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpfIuNQA4CA

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#187 MyopicCanadian
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Just tried out hardcore mode for a little while.. it's awesome! Much more like BF2. I hope more servers follow suit, because so far I've only seen one company doing hardcore mode.. and their servers seem kinda laggy.

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#188 Levrar
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Still haven't found a hardcore server, we need to be able to sort the servers instead of scrolling through all of them.
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#189 Nitrous2O
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I'm having a lot of fun with the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpfIuNQA4CA

Ondoval

Same here, I haven't been able to spend quite as much time with the beta as I'd like, however, so far the more I've been playing it the more I like it ;)

Straight up comparison to BF2 and it feels like some elements are missing, but everyone knew in advance this wasn't BF3. Even so, more than anything else I find myself deeply missing prone in the game -- perhaps worth the sacrifice, I could imagine it being overly advantageous to sniping and slowing the game down though.

In addition there is certainly room for improvements such as the FOV, overall peformance (playing with forced DX9 is providing fantastic performance though), etc, etc.

Regardless, in a match with a couple of good teams, the action comes fast and it comes furious. Supported by great sound effects and destructibility, it's very intense and alot of fun.

Haven't played on a hardcore server yet, so I'll definitely have to check that out. From an amount of damage perspective only (there are complaints about it taking too many hits to bring a person down) I don't really feel a need to play on hardcore, it seems easy enough to drop headshots in standard play.

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#190 matte3560
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[QUOTE="matte3560"]

Just got home after being away for most of the weekend. I'm having a blast with this game, I must say.

In other news, my 8800 GTX touched 100 degrees celsius with the fan at full speed 0.o I'm starting to need that 5970...

ColdfireTrilogy
thats a GPU problem not the game causing that .... I had an OCd ultra (much hotter runnin as higher voltages) and it never ever made it to 85C even on games like crysis.

Yeah, I know I can't really blame the game for it. Must be some serious horsepower on the fan your 8800 Ultra had :P As for hardcore servers, I don't think they exist. The beta only came with one gamemode, and I assume hardcore counts as another set of gamemodes, not just a gamemode setting.
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#191 matte3560
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[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

I'm having a lot of fun with the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpfIuNQA4CA

Nitrous2O

In addition there is certainly room for improvements such as the FOV, overall peformance (playing with forced DX9 is providing fantastic performance though),

How do you force the game to run in DX9 mode?

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#192 Ondoval
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The game will be released with 16 maps, which is great since I was expecting 10-12 as in BF 2.

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#193 Nitrous2O
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[QUOTE="Nitrous2O"]

[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

I'm having a lot of fun with the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpfIuNQA4CA

matte3560

In addition there is certainly room for improvements such as the FOV, overall peformance (playing with forced DX9 is providing fantastic performance though),

How do you force the game to run in DX9 mode?

Just referring to the settings.ini DX9 change. And actually, I should mention that I made both this change and there was a client update at the same time. It might have been a combination of the two that provided the improvement in performance, however, the improvement was substantial. The beta has been running extremely smooth for me compared to the first time playing.

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#194 zitazeon
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I loved bf2 but it always felt unorganized to me. bfbc2 seems to lean towards my type of play-style in the bf2 universe. I'm glade there's no prone, excited to be honest no more cowardly camping snipers, or dolphin divers(you SOBs!) now we all gotta stand and fight.. i love it.

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#196 will952
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[QUOTE="will952"]

But what some of you, and loads of people in the beta fail to realise, is that IT IS A BETA. Of course it will have issues, but they have month to sort them out.

THA-TODD-BEAST

What you, and many others fail to realize, is that a month is hardly enough time to sort out as many problems as this game has.

That remains to be seen. Besides, the game is perfectly playable now, and its not like they won't patch the game after release.
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#197 MyopicCanadian
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The game will be released with 16 maps, which is great since I was expecting 10-12 as in BF 2.

Ondoval
That's good news! I was expecting like.. 6-8.
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#198 will952
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AAAGH! I got to rank 9 and suddenly I got dropped to 1 again!!!

/Raging

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#199 Dante2710
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I dont really care about prone, but they should give the option to turn it off and on depending on the servers and for the love of god, make it toggle, same with crouch.
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#200 matte3560
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AAAGH! I got to rank 9 and suddenly I got dropped to 1 again!!!

/Raging

will952
Some of the servers are bugged, and won't download your stats/rank/loadout, so you look like you're at lvl 1. Just drop out and find another server, and it should work.