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#1 frizzyman0292
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I just upgraded my Gpu (8800 gts) and i am worried that in the next year there will games i cant play on high.. Is this true? Em i going to have trouble playing Crysis, UT2007 and ect.
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I just upgraded my Gpu (8800 gts) and i am worried that in the next year there will games i cant play on high.. Is this true? Em i going to have trouble playing Crysis, UT2007 and ect.frizzyman0292

relax 

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#3 BounceDK
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That's the story of PC gaming really. It's really starting to piss me off, more than ever actually.
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#4 frizzyman0292
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Thanks.. Any real answers.! But yes it is annoying
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I just upgraded my Gpu (8800 gts) and i am worried that in the next year there will games i cant play on high.. Is this true? Em i going to have trouble playing Crysis, UT2007 and ect.frizzyman0292

Yes its true.  But even if you buy the G92 there will be games out a year after it that wont run max on it.  Welcome to PC gamming, are you new or something?

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#6 schu
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That's the story of PC gaming really. It's really starting to piss me off, more than ever actually.BounceDK

 

yea....it just keeps going and going.....you just have to buy in at strategic times 

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[QUOTE="BounceDK"]That's the story of PC gaming really. It's really starting to piss me off, more than ever actually.schu

 

yea....it just keeps going and going.....you just have to buy in at strategic times

I agree.  I wouldn't buy another GPU until you can't play the standard minimum requirements.  Oblivion and SupCom are examples of games that aren't standard.  You should also look at benchmarks.  If youre card (on benchmarks) falls below 20 FPS on a mainstream game, you could get a new one.  Remember you can't have everything the spoiled kid accross the street has.

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I just upgraded my Gpu (8800 gts) and i am worried that in the next year there will games i cant play on high.. Is this true? Em i going to have trouble playing Crysis, UT2007 and ect.frizzyman0292

Why cut my hair, it will grow back.

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#9 accord100
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yea, relax man. Thats the beauty of PC gaming. It just keep gettin better. If you don't like the idea of being able to upgrade then theres always the x360/ps3.

I have a 7900 and Its been holding me up pretty well through out the reign of the 8800. I think you will be fine with the 8800 for awhile. Just skip the g92 and then get the g100x or something.

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#10 VfighterX
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lol, that's why I don't buy top of the line video cards.  I can upgrade more often with less pain. XD
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#11 c02z
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lol, that's why I don't buy top of the line video cards. I can upgrade more often with less pain. XDVfighterX
8800 gts is not the top line the GTX is.
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#12 trastamad03
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IMO, this is the worse time to purchase new components for a PC... lets face it, most of the components arent lasting very long before something new overshadows them... take the Core Duo for example, it lasted a few months and then Core 2 Duo over shadowed it... same thing is going to happen with AMDs athlon X2 which will be replaced by the Phenom X2/X4/FX (althought later this year) the graphic cards that are out now (8800 and HD 2900) arent very impressive, when the 6800 from nvidia came out, all the new games that it came out it score 60fps and more, 8800 and 2900 have already fallen below 60fps in alot of tests... so its best to wait up and see who makes what... but this is just my opinion.... and i bet 10$ some guys gonna try to flame me... im sure its going to be a fanboy who is insulted...
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#13 BounceDK
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IMO, this is the worse time to purchase new components for a PC... lets face it, most of the components arent lasting very long before something new overshadows them... take the Core Duo for example, it lasted a few months and then Core 2 Duo over shadowed it... same thing is going to happen with AMDs athlon X2 which will be replaced by the Phenom X2/X4/FXtrastamad03
Dual core is already old news, now it's quad core and in 2k9 they are going to have 8 and 16 cores. I give up ;)
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#14 basersx
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^ I agree because right now there is too much stuff coming out before games are written for them.  Dual core came out before any games actually supported them.  Now almost all those first duals are crap for the games that are finally coming out with dual support.

Same is true with video cards, DX10 cards came out way before there are any DX10 games.  By the time DX10 games come out they will just be average.

Lesson learned?  Don't buy hardware for software that doesn't exist yet!  "Buying a card for Crysis" doesn't make since until the day crisis is actually out!!

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#15 doomsdaydave11
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No one knows. Those games haven't been released yet. How can anyone know how much it will take to max the game?

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#16 YourOldFriend
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Honestly, the system in my sig has held up magnificently since I got it 2-3 years ago. I still play everything widescreen at 1280x768(800) and med-high settings. I don't play supcom since I don't really like the style and don't have a dual core. When Hellgate: London and Crysis are both out, I'll upgrade then for cheaper than people are upgrading now. Save your money until you have a legitimate reason to upgrade.
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#17 eitremn
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lol, that's why I don't buy top of the line video cards.  I can upgrade more often with less pain. XDVfighterX

me either, nor will i ever.  you do not need to run games maxed out at some insane resolution.  i have an x1600 and it runs any game out there right now and will continue to do so for the next lil while until dx10 becomes mainstream.  of course it's not going to run them on the highest settings, and for some maybe not even medium, but just get over those small details and enjoy the game.  if you need the graphics to look so life like then just go watch a movie.

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i have kind of a weird strategy for graphics cards. every 3 or 4 years i buy an absolute top of the range graphics card. right now i have an 8800GTX...very nice card. i play my games at 1280X1024.....a resolution that really doesent make my card even wake up with games at max details. however thats today. this time next yea, my 8800GTX will probably still be playing games at max details at 1280 at a very respectable framerate. by year 3....ill just chuck in a second gtx which will be dirt cheap by then and proably another 2 gigis of ram and ill probably still playing the latest and greatest at max details at a respectable framerate (anything over 30 is fine in my book). year 4......its DX11 time (i hope) and ill be buying the top of the line DX11 chip on the market and the circle repeats. thats how i keep my PC costs managable. also whe n buying a PC i mkae sure to get a very food mobo and the best processor in the business. GCs come and go but a great mobo and processor will serve u years (oh and a great monitor). my 1.3GHz pentium 4 lasted 3.5 years before there was even a hint of it having problems. i used a 21" crt monitor that was just the business for 6 years. i only upgraded because VGA was going out.

it all depends on what u expect. do u want to play UT2007 and a nice framerate at max details at a decent resolution? if so then that card will last quite some time. do u want to play UT2007 at over 100FPS with max details at 3056X2450 (or something really high)? then prepare to cough up the moolah. 

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#19 frizzyman0292
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In two/three years i will just o'c my CPU and throw in another 8800 gts and some more ram.. I will be fine.. Im not worrying im just going to enjoy my pc
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#20 BounceDK
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In two/three years i will just o'c my CPU and throw in another 8800 gts and some more ram.. I will be fine.. Im not worrying im just going to enjoy my pcfrizzyman0292
I seriously doubt you'll be able to find a 8800GTS in 2 or 3 years. And by that time they'll have something like 3x faster than 2x8800GTX. It is indeed pretty crazy.
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#21 frizzyman0292
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U sure are extremely negative!! Im glad we have a psychic on GS...
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And by that time they'll have something like 3x faster than 2x8800GTX. It is indeed pretty crazy.BounceDK

I agree. 2 years ago, the 6800 Ultra was the best card on the market.

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#23 frizzyman0292
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2 years ago i bought 7800 gtx err..
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[QUOTE="schu"]

[QUOTE="BounceDK"]That's the story of PC gaming really. It's really starting to piss me off, more than ever actually.brood_aliance

 

yea....it just keeps going and going.....you just have to buy in at strategic times

I agree. I wouldn't buy another GPU until you can't play the standard minimum requirements. Oblivion and SupCom are examples of games that aren't standard. You should also look at benchmarks. If youre card (on benchmarks) falls below 20 FPS on a mainstream game, you could get a new one. Remember you can't have everything the spoiled kid accross the street has.

What if you ARE the spoiled kid from across the street? 

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#25 BounceDK
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[QUOTE="brood_aliance"][QUOTE="schu"]

[QUOTE="BounceDK"]That's the story of PC gaming really. It's really starting to piss me off, more than ever actually.Jack_Summersby

yea....it just keeps going and going.....you just have to buy in at strategic times

I agree. I wouldn't buy another GPU until you can't play the standard minimum requirements. Oblivion and SupCom are examples of games that aren't standard. You should also look at benchmarks. If youre card (on benchmarks) falls below 20 FPS on a mainstream game, you could get a new one. Remember you can't have everything the spoiled kid accross the street has.

What if you ARE the spoiled kid from across the street?

Then you need to get a job, or you'll be living on welfare when you grow up.
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[QUOTE="Jack_Summersby"][QUOTE="brood_aliance"][QUOTE="schu"]

[QUOTE="BounceDK"]That's the story of PC gaming really. It's really starting to piss me off, more than ever actually.BounceDK

 

yea....it just keeps going and going.....you just have to buy in at strategic times

I agree. I wouldn't buy another GPU until you can't play the standard minimum requirements. Oblivion and SupCom are examples of games that aren't standard. You should also look at benchmarks. If youre card (on benchmarks) falls below 20 FPS on a mainstream game, you could get a new one. Remember you can't have everything the spoiled kid accross the street has.

What if you ARE the spoiled kid from across the street?

Then you need to get a job, or you'll be living on welfare when you grow up.

Not at all - I know turds who still live with their rich parents, even into their 30's!!!

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I remember when top of the line video cards were around $300 CDN but now, they are nearing $1000 CDN.   It's too crazy.   All this stuff is going up in price but yet, our paycheques barely go up.   Either way, I think the technology is going a bit too fast IMO, it really seems like who can get there the fastest (Intel, AMD, ATI, Nvidia) but yet, the developers are left behind and are not even getting any time to develop any sort of optimization for our current hardware.   Duel core has been around for a bit but very slowly games are starting to take some advantage of duel core (Alan's Wake, Crysis etc) but already, we are already jumping the gun and hopping onto the quad core train.

Also, this is the worst time to uprade.   A lot of issues with Vista then we got DX10 and the whole DX10 video cards along with Duel Core and Quad Core CPUS etc.

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#28 basersx
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I remember when top of the line video cards were around $300 CDN but now, they are nearing $1000 CDN.   It's too crazy.   All this stuff is going up in price but yet, our paycheques barely go up.   Either way, I think the technology is going a bit too fast IMO, it really seems like who can get there the fastest (Intel, AMD, ATI, Nvidia) but yet, the developers are left behind and are not even getting any time to develop any sort of optimization for our current hardware.   Duel core has been around for a bit but very slowly games are starting to take some advantage of duel core (Alan's Wake, Crysis etc) but already, we are already jumping the gun and hopping onto the quad core train.

Also, this is the worst time to uprade.   A lot of issues with Vista then we got DX10 and the whole DX10 video cards along with Duel Core and Quad Core CPUS etc.

ForsbergFan21

Yeah but we are also going through heavy inflation right now.  Everything is costing more, gas, food, and electronics.  I even noticed a bag of dog food has gone up over a buck over the last month.

So just about everything is more expensive right now.

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#29 superkoolstud
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I would have waited for a second gen DX10 card.

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#30 sykonfc
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The only high end card I ever purchased was the 9800 PRO. Other then that I'm still gaming on an AGP system powered by a Radeon X1950 PRO and an Opteron 170. I can play most games decently or on fairly high settings.

Just because your system can't play every game on the market with bleeding edge settings does not mean it's an obsolete computer. People over emphasize their need to upgrade.

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[QUOTE="VfighterX"]lol, that's why I don't buy top of the line video cards. I can upgrade more often with less pain. XDc02z
8800 gts is not the top line the GTX is.

No, the 8800 Ultra is.
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[QUOTE="frizzyman0292"]In two/three years i will just o'c my CPU and throw in another 8800 gts and some more ram.. I will be fine.. Im not worrying im just going to enjoy my pcBounceDK
I seriously doubt you'll be able to find a 8800GTS in 2 or 3 years. And by that time they'll have something like 3x faster than 2x8800GTX. It is indeed pretty crazy.

............  That not true, the 6800 GT can be easilly bought at places such as Newegg and that card has been out for liek 3 to 4 years....  So I highly doubt that it will be come scarce.. Not just that but who cares if there will be cards that are three tiems faster (which I highly doubt it), the thing that is important is how it will run games in that amount of time..  From what we have seen with benchmarks and if the promises of DX10 actually hold true he will be fine.. Not just that but the two games that is supposedly the most graphically intensive in the next two three years are being released in less then a year (Crysis and Bioshock)..

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#33 WarV
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Just wait till quantum computers come out. Then you won't have to worry about upgrading again 8)
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#34 duelen
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ive been playing the same game for a couple years, which dosnt need me to pgrade since its the same game. Not enough games are worthy of an upgrade. I laugh at people who upgrade for crap games that end up being uninstalled 3 weeks later.
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#35 onemic
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considering that the 8 series are just entering DX10 you will most likely have to upgrade once the 9 series comes out. Just look at games like lost planet and COH under DX10 mode. Even the 8800GTX cant handle it. The 8 series is almost officially the FX series of our time.
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considering that the 8 series are just entering DX10 you will most likely have to upgrade once the 9 series comes out. Just look at games like lost planet and COH under DX10 mode. Even the 8800GTX cant handle it. The 8 series is almost officially the FX series of our time. onemic

..........  Lost Planet is a HORRIBLE console port that runs bad on every system, and the devs of COH have already said there is a problem atm with optemization with the use of DX10 effects, vista and the graphic drivers..  And I find that very funny that you some how think the 8 series compares to the FX, how can you make such a comparison....  How bout actually wait till Vista is actually better then XP? 

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Just wait till quantum computers come out. Then you won't have to worry about upgrading again 8)WarV


"Ooh, look at it actively adapt to my very needs" :shock:
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#38 onemic
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[QUOTE="onemic"]considering that the 8 series are just entering DX10 you will most likely have to upgrade once the 9 series comes out. Just look at games like lost planet and COH under DX10 mode. Even the 8800GTX cant handle it. The 8 series is almost officially the FX series of our time. sSubZerOo

.......... Lost Planet is a HORRIBLE console port that runs bad on every system, and the devs of COH have already said there is a problem atm with optemization with the use of DX10 effects, vista and the graphic drivers.. And I find that very funny that you some how think the 8 series compares to the FX, how can you make such a comparison.... How bout actually wait till Vista is actually better then XP?

 

We say that because currently thats what it's performing like. Of course it's not definite which is why I never said that it actually was comparable to the FX series of cards, but right now it's slowly becoming closer and closer to being true.  

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#39 TacticalElefant
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="onemic"]considering that the 8 series are just entering DX10 you will most likely have to upgrade once the 9 series comes out. Just look at games like lost planet and COH under DX10 mode. Even the 8800GTX cant handle it. The 8 series is almost officially the FX series of our time. onemic

.......... Lost Planet is a HORRIBLE console port that runs bad on every system, and the devs of COH have already said there is a problem atm with optemization with the use of DX10 effects, vista and the graphic drivers.. And I find that very funny that you some how think the 8 series compares to the FX, how can you make such a comparison.... How bout actually wait till Vista is actually better then XP?

 

We say that because currently thats what it's performing like. Of course it's not definite which is why I never said that it actually was comparable to the FX series of cards, but right now it's slowly becoming closer and closer to being true.



The fact that my 8800GTS is destroying every game I through at it tells me otherwise in regards to the 8 series being like the FX series.  Get off the idea, you know it's not true, at least with the 8800s.  The 8600s and below though, uh, lol yeah they suck.
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#40 mrbojangles25
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Yes, I am sure there will be games in a year that you wont be able to max.

The real question is whether or not running games at close to max is good enough.  I mean, its not like in a year the 8000 series is gonna be like what the 6000 series is now to the 7000 series; its still gonna be on top, and that card will last you at least two years, problably three.

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#41 42316
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Get over it, just keep up with the tech, if you want to
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I just upgraded my Gpu (8800 gts) and i am worried that in the next year there will games i cant play on high.. Is this true? Em i going to have trouble playing Crysis, UT2007 and ect.frizzyman0292

Ya there will probably be a game in a year that you can't max out.  The 8000 series is the first dx10 card so it won't be the best at running the best dx10 can dish out and perfect frame rates.  Any game this year you will likely run on max.  But also think of this, soo many games come out and a lot do not require the best to run on their best settings.  So in a year you might have trouble with some games but most you'll be fine with. 

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I just upgraded my Gpu (8800 gts) and i am worried that in the next year there will games i cant play on high.. Is this true? Em i going to have trouble playing Crysis, UT2007 and ect.frizzyman0292

 You guys know the secret for not making it happen??

Stop buying things that just got released. Nvidia is pro on making this... Just stop buying those so that Nvidia realise they have to create something really good that will last, not half-done board and lame drivers.

Things are getting old too fast because elitist guys are buying new things too fast.

If you want to change it, just don't be part of that group. 

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#44 JN_Fenrir
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I'll try to offer a different perspective here. Compare computer specs to those of current-gen consoles. Obviously, consoles are highly specialized machines which have components specifically designed for gaming, so the process of comparing actual numbers is somewhat irrelevant. Consider the basics. Xbox 360 - IBM Xenon 3.2GHz triple-core CPU - ATI Xenon (similar to the Radeon X2900 XT) GPU - 512MB shared (GPU/CPU) GDDR3 Playstation 3 - IBM Cell 3.2Ghz 7-core CPU (1 reserved for the OS) - Nvidia RSX (similar to the Geforce 7800GTX) GPU, 256MB GDDR3 - 256MB shared (GPU/CPU) XDR Multiple cores is clearly the way to go when it comes to CPUs and gaming. Microsoft was a little more traditional in their model, backing up their 3-core CPU with a powerhouse GPU. Sony, on the other hand, decided to give their CPU some extra cores to process animation and vertex work, leaving their relatively modest GPU to handle "basic" things like static geometry, texturing and shaders. But until games on PC start seeing optimizations for multiple cores (which looks like it actually may start happening sometime in the not-too-distant future), the price difference between midrange and high-end PC hardware doesn't actually buy you much. On the GPU front, things are quite interesting these days, now that DirectX 10 is on its way out, but as of yet, there is virtually nothing to suggest that a DX10-capable graphics card is a worthwhile purchase. The difference in image quality between DX9 and DX10 is effectively zero as far as I can tell; every comparison I've seen has been obviously doctored in some other way than a simple API upgrade. And games will continue to support DirectX 9 -- and likely even earlier -- anyway, for at least as long as they continue to support Windows XP (read: at the very least, two to three more years). You really shouldn't be worrying about buying compliant hardware at this point.
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#45 TacticalElefant
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No no no the PS3 has 256 MB XDR system RAM and another 256 MB GDDR3 VRAM.  It's 512 total, but it's pretty crappy since it's two seperate pools that make it strenuous for developers if they need more than the 256 MB GDDR3 VRAM because of the factors involved with latency and such using the SRAM for video as well.  The developers of Oblivion had that issue when porting the game to PS3.
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#46 domke13
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^ I agree because right now there is too much stuff coming out before games are written for them.  Dual core came out before any games actually supported them.  Now almost all those first duals are crap for the games that are finally coming out with dual support.

Same is true with video cards, DX10 cards came out way before there are any DX10 games.  By the time DX10 games come out they will just be average.

Lesson learned?  Don't buy hardware for software that doesn't exist yet!  "Buying a card for Crysis" doesn't make since until the day crisis is actually out!!

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Look if Crytek says that 8800 GXT will be able to max out crysis on 24" LCD, than 8800 GTX probably wont be averrage by than. Also DX10 is prrety nw, so G80 and R600 arent fully used yet. They will last more time, than 7900 GTX did, because 7900 GTX was just a faster card whit same architectur, and DX10 cards are prrety new, so expect G80 to play games on max at least until the end of 2008. 

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#47 JN_Fenrir
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No no no the PS3 has 256 MB XDR system RAM and another 256 MB GDDR3 VRAM. It's 512 total, but it's pretty crappy since it's two seperate pools that make it strenuous for developers if they need more than the 256 MB GDDR3 VRAM because of the factors involved with latency and such using the SRAM for video as well. The developers of Oblivion had that issue when porting the game to PS3.TacticalElefant
Eek, good catch. Thank you, it's been fixed. ;)
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#48 TacticalElefant
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Even if there are problems with the DX10 performance, there is no denying how good with DX9 games these 8 series cards are. 
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#49 jorgeluisbl
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[QUOTE="BounceDK"]That's the story of PC gaming really. It's really starting to piss me off, more than ever actually.schu

 

yea....it just keeps going and going.....you just have to buy in at strategic times

Yeah you always have to buy a new PC. 

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#50 domke13
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[QUOTE="frizzyman0292"]I just upgraded my Gpu (8800 gts) and i am worried that in the next year there will games i cant play on high.. Is this true? Em i going to have trouble playing Crysis, UT2007 and ect.karmageddon2k4

Ya there will probably be a game in a year that you can't max out.  The 8000 series is the first dx10 card so it won't be the best at running the best dx10 can dish out and perfect frame rates.  Any game this year you will likely run on max.  But also think of this, soo many games come out and a lot do not require the best to run on their best settings.  So in a year you might have trouble with some games but most you'll be fine with. 

I think that Crysis will be the best looking games at least till the end of 2008, so i assume you should be running all games maxed out till end of 2008. If not, i will just get myself a new GPU monster probably 9800GTX or something better, so that really doesnt worrie meÂ