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#1 cooloutac
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here we go.. two worlds II vs the witcher II

they both have the same looking main character, who have the same voice. i swear to got they copied each other. haha but besides that.

I feel two worlds II has the better graphics on the highest res and settings. and it runs at a constant 60 fps with vsync on. Its completely open world. Like if all of oblvion was just one of many islands you can sail or teleport to. In two worlds II you can literally get a horse mount, buy a sailboat. and literally sail in real time to diff oblivion lands lol. literally explore deserted islands and or find dungeons for treasure etc.....

the witcher 2. is all cinematics. granted the cinmeatics look HD.... and it has more textures and gameplay then the bioware games (DA2 and ME2) but the actualy gameplay is very blurry and choppy and full of micro stutters on any settings. utter crap and completely obvious its dx 9, and doesn't like my new o/s and hardware. same issues with fallout 3...... Its like they superimposed a crap load of AA to make it seem like a new engine in HD. but its not even all the textures. and the bloom looks cheap. cartoon like models...etc...and very sluggish. I don't know what all the hype was about.

for someone who has a newer computer. a win 7 64, amd phenom II x4 850e and 6 gb ddr3 and 1gb HD ati 5870, I'd rather go with two worlds II. I just like being able to jump, crouch and walk anywhere I want. with super smooth, mind blowing like the first unreal years ago, new age graphics. thats all i care about thats why i buy a new pc. I'm an avid fps gamer first.... and strictly a pc gaming background.

the witcher 2 might have the better storyline, with tons more cinematic scenes, and cool magical/rogue fight mechanics. but i'm not interested cinematic scenes or the storyline.... if there is only a little gameplay that has old cartoon like models and runs like horrible crap....

my vote is for two worlds II. for better looking graphics, smoother hardware performance, and for being MORE OPEN WORLD then oblivion. don't believe the lies they sell ya.

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#2 Renevent42
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Considering I really don't care much about story and more about big open worlds with tons of stuff to find, my vote would go to Two World II. Then again I've never played The Witcher II, although I did the original i just don't really care for the series.
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#3 Masculus
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I think Two Worlds 2 is underrated though not better than the Witcher 2. They are both plagued by a crappy engine just because it insists in being DX9.

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#4 kris9031998
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The witcher 2 NO contest. An rpg with a bad story = NO NO
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#5 xWoW_Rougex
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Hmm Two Worlds 2 have gotten rather low scores but I don't think it was that bad to be honest... It's actually kinda hard to pick to be honest. The Witcher 2 have better story but Two Worlds 2 is friggin' huge with several big towns to explore and so on.

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#6 Moriarity_
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Witcher 2. I put about 10-15 hours into Two worlds 2 but I couldn't get into the story and just lost interest. I would give it another chance but I hear the story is bad and the parts of the game I played through only confirmed it. The gameplay was solid but I just can't get into an rpg if the story is lacking.
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#7 bonafidetk
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Troll topic? No one could possibly believe Two Worlds 2 looks better than The Witcher 2.
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#8 James161324
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The witcher 2, but as a huge witcher 1 fan the witcher 2 has dissapointed me.

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#9 cooloutac
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Troll topic? No one could possibly believe Two Worlds 2 looks better than The Witcher 2.bonafidetk
have u played both? do you have a dx 11 card on the highest settings? i think your the real troll my friend hahah.

not only does two worlds II run 10 times better. it looks great... and does not look as old and cartoony like the witcher 2 does. The witcher 2's cinematics look way way better then the game play. well in two worlds II. the game play looks like exactly like cinematics, you can't tell them apart. and the gameplay is a constant 60 fps with absolutely NO MICRO STUTTER... on top of looking so good.

if your only buying a rpg game for the latest graphics, and to have a fully emersing 3d open world enviornment. go with two worlds II.

If you don't care about graphics fps performance, or gameplay being very console like with small linear maps. go with the witcher 2.

the witcher 2 does everything else better. But i, myself, can't get past the fact its the most linear game i've played. and it looks and runs like such crap. From a pc gamers standpoint, these are the main reasons people spend alot of money on new hardware. and just like crysis 2. another company who is not even utilizing dx10 and it absolutely shows.

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#10 bloodreaperfx
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[QUOTE="bonafidetk"]Troll topic? No one could possibly believe Two Worlds 2 looks better than The Witcher 2.cooloutac

have u played both? do you have a dx 11 card on the highest settings? i think your the real troll my friend hahah.

not only does two worlds II run 10 times better. it looks great... and does not look as old and cartoony like the witcher 2 does. The witcher 2's cinematics look way way better then the game play. well in two worlds II. the game play looks like exactly like cinematics, you can't tell them apart. and the gameplay is a constant 60 fps with absolutely NO MICRO STUTTER... on top of looking so good.

if your only buying a rpg game for the latest graphics, and to have a fully emersing 3d open world enviornment. go with two worlds II.

If you don't care about graphics fps performance, or gameplay being very console like with small linear maps. go with the witcher 2.

the witcher 2 does everything else better. But i, myself, can't get past the fact its the most linear game i've played. and it looks and runs like such crap. From a pc gamers standpoint, these are the main reasons people spend alot of money on new hardware. and just like crysis 2. another company who is not even utilizing dx10 and it absolutely shows.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Two Worlds 2 was NOT designed with DX 11 in mind. The support was added to a patch. And put emphasis on the "support" part....I dont think they actually use Tesselation or any of the exclusive DX 11 tech. Also, the Witcher 2 engine is simply newer.

Can you compare the swamps or forrests from The Witcher 2 with those from Two Worlds 2? I played both with maxed settings and I can honestly say that Witcher 2 looks alot better. Heck even the reviewers said it is probably the best looking RPG of the year.

Now, dont get me wrong, I'm not bashing Two Worlds. That game looks pretty cool as well, but c'mon man, excesive depth of field to cover up crappy render distance, pretty stiff animations and such...give credit where its due.

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#11 rhazzy
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Iam a big fan of 2W2(yeah thats the abbreviation for two worlds 2)...BUT, The Witcher 2 is on another level...

2W2 pros - Big areas to explore.

- Very nice visuals

- Decent story

cons - Low production value

- Lack of variety when it comes to Npc's and monsters

- Average voice acting

- Average combat

TW2 pros - Gorgeous graphics

- High production value

- Very good story

- Good voice acting and sound in general.

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#12 rhazzy
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Sorry to burst your bubble but Two Worlds 2 was NOT designed with DX 11 in mind. The support was added to a patch. And put emphasis on the "support" part....I dont think they actually use Tesselation or any of the exclusive DX 11 tech. Also, the Witcher 2 engine is simply newer.

Can you compare the swamps or forrests from The Witcher 2 with those from Two Worlds 2? I played both with maxed settings and I can honestly say that Witcher 2 looks alot better. Heck even the reviewers said it is probably the best looking RPG of the year.

Now, dont get me wrong, I'm not bashing Two Worlds. That game looks pretty cool as well, but c'mon man, excesive depth of field to cover up crappy render distance, pretty stiff animations and such...give credit where its due.

bloodreaperfx

What are you talking about???

Two Worlds Two dosent have DX11 support and never will...Its only dx 10...and even dx10 isnt implemented very good...there are some visual bugs when using dx10 in 2W2...

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#13 bloodreaperfx
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What are you talking about???

Two Worlds Two dosent have DX11 support and never will...Its only dx 10...and even dx10 isnt implemented very good...there are some visual bugs when using dx10 in 2W2...

rhazzy

*sigh*...i was talking about the support patch for DX 11. As I said, in the previous post,the game itself does not use any dx 11 stuff. With the patch, it will probably have improved textures or something, but nothing along the lines of tesselation.

Or better yet, check out this post for pics:

http://twoworldsvault.ign.com/fullstory.php?id=58856

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[QUOTE="bonafidetk"]Troll topic? No one could possibly believe Two Worlds 2 looks better than The Witcher 2.cooloutac

have u played both? do you have a dx 11 card on the highest settings? i think your the real troll my friend hahah.

not only does two worlds II run 10 times better. it looks great... and does not look as old and cartoony like the witcher 2 does. The witcher 2's cinematics look way way better then the game play. well in two worlds II. the game play looks like exactly like cinematics, you can't tell them apart. and the gameplay is a constant 60 fps with absolutely NO MICRO STUTTER... on top of looking so good.

if your only buying a rpg game for the latest graphics, and to have a fully emersing 3d open world enviornment. go with two worlds II.

If you don't care about graphics fps performance, or gameplay being very console like with small linear maps. go with the witcher 2.

the witcher 2 does everything else better. But i, myself, can't get past the fact its the most linear game i've played. and it looks and runs like such crap. From a pc gamers standpoint, these are the main reasons people spend alot of money on new hardware. and just like crysis 2. another company who is not even utilizing dx10 and it absolutely shows.

I have to agree with this post, I love the TW2 but its not as great as people make it out to be; I have not played 2w2 but have seen gameplay and the environments are huge. As for the TW2 its easy to make your game look pretty when its linear has hell, in fact the linearity of it was its biggest flaw to me, I like rpgs with large areas I can explore and backtrack too.

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#15 bloodreaperfx
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I have to agree with this post, I love the TW2 but its not as great as people make it out to be; I have not played 2w2 but have seen gameplay and the environments are huge. As for the TW2 its easy to make your game look pretty when its linear has hell, in fact the linearity of it was its biggest flaw to me, I like rpgs with large areas I can explore and backtrack too.NanoMan88
Even so, we're not debating linearity, just which game has more advanced graphics and looks better. Now..the looking better part is of course subjective, you might like what the other guy doesn't. However, from a pure tech point of view, The Witcher 2 has a better engine and more advanced graphics.

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/195083-preview-the-witcher-2-assassins-of-kings/TheWitcher2_03_forest-noscale.jpg

http://vnmedia.ign.com/screenshots/twoworlds/2631450.jpg

See the difference right there? Both pics are with maxed settings.

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#16 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="NanoMan88"]I have to agree with this post, I love the TW2 but its not as great as people make it out to be; I have not played 2w2 but have seen gameplay and the environments are huge. As for the TW2 its easy to make your game look pretty when its linear has hell, in fact the linearity of it was its biggest flaw to me, I like rpgs with large areas I can explore and backtrack too.bloodreaperfx

Even so, we're not debating linearity, just which game has more advanced graphics and looks better. Now..the looking better part is of course subjective, you might like what the other guy doesn't. However, from a pure tech point of view, The Witcher 2 has a better engine and more advanced graphics.

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/195083-preview-the-witcher-2-assassins-of-kings/TheWitcher2_03_forest-noscale.jpg

http://vnmedia.ign.com/screenshots/twoworlds/2631450.jpg

See the difference right there? Both pics are with maxed settings.

Well the topic creator name of thread is called the tw2 vs tw2 and discussed both games gfx in his post as well as the openess of the world. There is nothing that he said that this has purely to do with gfx.

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#17 bloodreaperfx
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Yet the posts you quoted argued about graphics, mainly. Which looks better...meh...nevermind....I made my point.

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#18 malebog123
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joke thread?

Two worlds 2's got better graphics? :|

Not sure if serious, and nice copy pasting too, just saw your other post in a thread I made, and so not sure if serious

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28715831/something-missing-in-rpgs-today?tag=topics%3Btitle

Witcher 2 is noted for being the most beautiful rpg in years, and yes I've played and maxed out 2w2. So much low res textures in that game. get serious man.

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#19 cooloutac
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yes i'm sorry, 2w2 vs tw2 in terms of graphics mostly yes.

ok so 2w2 is dx10. to me this is obvious when playing the game without reading anything. I said "possibly" dx11. but i knew it was at least dx10...

i mean just by comparing all older games and some new ones like the witcher 2 and crysis 2. the immediate thing you notice is just how much sharper it looks, and def how much smoother it runs.....period.

i don't need to read any release notes... this is just something you can instantly observe when playing the game. the diff between dx9 and 10 is obvious... especially when playing on new cards with win 7 it seems...

so to the poster that pointed this out.... are you saying the witcher 2 has better graphics? to me 2w2 is more photo realistic and has more modern textures. tw2 is more cartoony like consoles and many textures look recycled from older games.

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#20 cooloutac
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joke thread?

Two worlds 2's got better graphics? :|

Not sure if serious, and nice copy pasting too, just saw your other post in a thread I made, and so not sure if serious

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28715831/something-missing-in-rpgs-today?tag=topics%3Btitle

Witcher 2 is noted for being the most beautiful rpg in years, and yes I've played and maxed out 2w2. So much low res textures in that game. get serious man.

malebog123

seriously dude? of course i'm serious......the cartoonish character models in tw2 look like an old console game to me. Maybe its because all i look at is the gameplay... and i don't care how good the cinematic cut scenes look. lmao.... I'm an even bigger critic of the bioware games..... i come from an old pc background. and I want a fully playable full 3d enviornment. cut scenes are non existent to me lol. and this game def does not look good enough to run so poorly on so many peoples machines. in my opinion the models and textures are recyled. and all they did is add more AA.

I didn't have to read anything but play the games to know which game is dx10 and which is not....

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yes i'm sorry, 2w2 vs tw2 in terms of graphics mostly yes.

ok so 2w2 is dx10. to me this is obvious when playing the game without reading anything. I said "possibly" dx11. but i knew it was at least dx10...

i mean just by comparing all older games and some new ones like the witcher 2 and crysis 2. the immediate thing you notice is just how much sharper it looks, and def how much smoother it runs.....period.

i don't need to read any release notes... this is just something you can instantly observe when playing the game. the diff between dx9 and 10 is obvious... especially when playing on new cards with win 7 it seems...

so to the poster that pointed this out.... are you saying the witcher 2 has better graphics? to me 2w2 is more photo realistic and has more modern textures. tw2 is more cartoony like consoles and many textures look recycled from older games.

cooloutac

and one more thing, It's one thing to not like a game, but going around spreading lies about it is another. You waste no time declaring your love for two worlds 2 and heap crap upon crap of lies about the witcher 2.

Here's another thread where you spout the same story again for all to see

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28714917/the-witcher-2-performance?msg_id=331327066#331327066



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#22 cooloutac
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[QUOTE="NanoMan88"]I have to agree with this post, I love the TW2 but its not as great as people make it out to be; I have not played 2w2 but have seen gameplay and the environments are huge. As for the TW2 its easy to make your game look pretty when its linear has hell, in fact the linearity of it was its biggest flaw to me, I like rpgs with large areas I can explore and backtrack too.bloodreaperfx

Even so, we're not debating linearity, just which game has more advanced graphics and looks better. Now..the looking better part is of course subjective, you might like what the other guy doesn't. However, from a pure tech point of view, The Witcher 2 has a better engine and more advanced graphics.

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/195083-preview-the-witcher-2-assassins-of-kings/TheWitcher2_03_forest-noscale.jpg

http://vnmedia.ign.com/screenshots/twoworlds/2631450.jpg

See the difference right there? Both pics are with maxed settings.

linearity is the engine. thats a big part of it. the fact the game is mostly cut scenes... and drawings you can't even walk to. and i guess thats all it is. are a big part of it.

and i have both games on my pc. you'd be better to link the same quality youtube videos.... paying for a nice drawing, and full 3d environment are 2 diff things.

one thing i give tw2 over 2w2 is the sound. which is also part of the game engine.

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#23 bloodreaperfx
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[QUOTE="cooloutac"]

yes i'm sorry, 2w2 vs tw2 in terms of graphics mostly yes.

ok so 2w2 is dx10. to me this is obvious when playing the game without reading anything. I said "possibly" dx11. but i knew it was at least dx10...

i mean just by comparing all older games and some new ones like the witcher 2 and crysis 2. the immediate thing you notice is just how much sharper it looks, and def how much smoother it runs.....period.

i don't need to read any release notes... this is just something you can instantly observe when playing the game. the diff between dx9 and 10 is obvious... especially when playing on new cards with win 7 it seems...

so to the poster that pointed this out.... are you saying the witcher 2 has better graphics? to me 2w2 is more photo realistic and has more modern textures. tw2 is more cartoony like consoles and many textures look recycled from older games.

I'm really not arguing about which one looks "better'. Because as I said, its subjective, you could simply like the 2w2 look more. Nothing wrong with that. I just posted 2 screenshots comparing some of the enviroments (mainly forest) from both games. You be the judge of which looks better. Also the "cartoony" looks on some characters in Witcher 2 is probably intended. As you know, the game is based off a series of books, and the writer himself may have established a certain feel rendered by the ocasional surreal graphics of the game. Most of the stuff going on is not supposed to be "realistic". But for the textures/shaders and everything, no way in hell is 2w2 better. Look at the insane Depth of Field which blurs stuff away. You know what they did that? Because the game has a pretty crappy render when it comes to far objects.
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#24 cooloutac
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[QUOTE="cooloutac"]

yes i'm sorry, 2w2 vs tw2 in terms of graphics mostly yes.

ok so 2w2 is dx10. to me this is obvious when playing the game without reading anything. I said "possibly" dx11. but i knew it was at least dx10...

i mean just by comparing all older games and some new ones like the witcher 2 and crysis 2. the immediate thing you notice is just how much sharper it looks, and def how much smoother it runs.....period.

i don't need to read any release notes... this is just something you can instantly observe when playing the game. the diff between dx9 and 10 is obvious... especially when playing on new cards with win 7 it seems...

so to the poster that pointed this out.... are you saying the witcher 2 has better graphics? to me 2w2 is more photo realistic and has more modern textures. tw2 is more cartoony like consoles and many textures look recycled from older games.

bloodreaperfx

I'm really not arguing about which one looks "better'. Because as I said, its subjective, you could simply like the 2w2 look more. Nothing wrong with that. I just posted 2 screenshots comparing some of the enviroments (mainly forest) from both games. You be the judge of which looks better. Also the "cartoony" looks on some characters in Witcher 2 is probably intended. As you know, the game is based off a series of books, and the writer himself may have established a certain feel rendered by the ocasional surreal graphics of the game. Most of the stuff going on is not supposed to be "realistic". But for the textures/shaders and everything, no way in hell is 2w2 better. Look at the insane Depth of Field which blurs stuff away. You know what they did that? Because the game has a pretty crappy render when it comes to far objects.

and as I said in other posts. yes the game renders crappy... and motion blurs are just cover ups. all companies advertise motion blur as a feature too which cracks me up lol. and well ya, I am going for more realistic..... haha. ya subjective...ok..... to me tw2 is more realistic, and a full 3d environment. its not a linear cartoon drawing like the witcher 2....sry...

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#25 malebog123
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[QUOTE="malebog123"]

joke thread?

Two worlds 2's got better graphics? :|

Not sure if serious, and nice copy pasting too, just saw your other post in a thread I made, and so not sure if serious

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28715831/something-missing-in-rpgs-today?tag=topics%3Btitle

Witcher 2 is noted for being the most beautiful rpg in years, and yes I've played and maxed out 2w2. So much low res textures in that game. get serious man.

cooloutac

seriously dude? of course i'm serious......the cartoonish character models in tw2 look like an old console game to me. Maybe its because all i look at is the gameplay... and i don't care how good the cinematic cut scenes look. lmao.... I'm an even bigger critic of the bioware games..... i come from an old pc background. and I want a fully playable full 3d enviornment. cut scenes are non existent to me lol. and this game def does not look good enough to run so poorly on so many peoples machines. in my opinion the models and textures are recyled. and all they did is add more AA.

I didn't have to read anything but play the games to know which game is dx10 and which is not....

oh please, we (gamespotters) can say we've been playing rpgs all the way from realms of arkania to Baldur's gate 2 to wizardry 8. My point is you've yet to give a VALID point regarding the witcher 2. Saying it's got cartoony models and look like an old console game only proves my point

that you're either stirring things up for the laugh or you truly just love two worlds to madness. No one can take you seriously when you say "witcher 2 looks like an old console game", that's just plain denial.

and from your other thread where you completely stated, that regarding the withcer 2, "sites like gamespot and IGN are totally biased liars......they get paid under the table no doubt."

Really? cd projokt paid ign?

Really?

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#26 cooloutac
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[QUOTE="cooloutac"]

[QUOTE="malebog123"]

joke thread?

Two worlds 2's got better graphics? :|

Not sure if serious, and nice copy pasting too, just saw your other post in a thread I made, and so not sure if serious

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28715831/something-missing-in-rpgs-today?tag=topics%3Btitle

Witcher 2 is noted for being the most beautiful rpg in years, and yes I've played and maxed out 2w2. So much low res textures in that game. get serious man.

malebog123

seriously dude? of course i'm serious......the cartoonish character models in tw2 look like an old console game to me. Maybe its because all i look at is the gameplay... and i don't care how good the cinematic cut scenes look. lmao.... I'm an even bigger critic of the bioware games..... i come from an old pc background. and I want a fully playable full 3d enviornment. cut scenes are non existent to me lol. and this game def does not look good enough to run so poorly on so many peoples machines. in my opinion the models and textures are recyled. and all they did is add more AA.

I didn't have to read anything but play the games to know which game is dx10 and which is not....

oh please, we can here say we've been playing rpgs all the way from realms of arkania to Baldur's gate 2 to wizardry 8. My point is you've yet to give a VALID point regarding the witcher 2. Saying it's got cartoony models and look like and old console game only proves my point

that you're either stirring things up for the laugh or you truly just love two worlds to madness. No one can take you seriously when you say "witcher 2 looks like an old console game", that's just plain denial.

and from your other thread where you completely stated, that regarding the withcer 2, "sites like gamespot and IGN are totally biased liars......they get paid under the table no doubt."

Really? cd projokt paid ign?

Really?

well then explain to me how all those review sites claim 2w2 is linear. when its more open world then oblivion?

and i'm giving my opinion. I like more realistic looking games, and to me thats what the evolution of graphics technology is all about. making things look MORE real.

we have our own opinions....you seem more like the troll your painting me out to be.

edit: and on top of all of this. 2w2 runs like pure crap! thumbs down...

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[QUOTE="malebog123"]

[QUOTE="cooloutac"] seriously dude? of course i'm serious......the cartoonish character models in tw2 look like an old console game to me. Maybe its because all i look at is the gameplay... and i don't care how good the cinematic cut scenes look. lmao.... I'm an even bigger critic of the bioware games..... i come from an old pc background. and I want a fully playable full 3d enviornment. cut scenes are non existent to me lol. and this game def does not look good enough to run so poorly on so many peoples machines. in my opinion the models and textures are recyled. and all they did is add more AA.

I didn't have to read anything but play the games to know which game is dx10 and which is not....

cooloutac

oh please, we can here say we've been playing rpgs all the way from realms of arkania to Baldur's gate 2 to wizardry 8. My point is you've yet to give a VALID point regarding the witcher 2. Saying it's got cartoony models and look like and old console game only proves my point

that you're either stirring things up for the laugh or you truly just love two worlds to madness. No one can take you seriously when you say "witcher 2 looks like an old console game", that's just plain denial.

and from your other thread where you completely stated, that regarding the withcer 2, "sites like gamespot and IGN are totally biased liars......they get paid under the table no doubt."

Really? cd projokt paid ign?

Really?

well then explain to me how all those review sites claim 2w2 is linear. when its more open world then oblivion? case closed....my friend....

Linear in plot and story progression man. that's what they mean. In the witcher 2, your decisions shapes the flow of the game, the plot spreads out like branches, while two worlds 2's plot follows a straight path, hence the linear labeling. Two worlds 2's strength lies in giving the player freedom to explore a huge world, the plot is what ties it in place. The witcher 2's strength lies in telling a story and giving the player choices in how the narrative plays out. Both games are different in what they try to achieve

I get that you love two worlds and all, and I dont blame you, I like the game as well, but enough with false slamming of the witcher 2. I run the game on ultra without uber sampling on and my game is buttery smooth (nvidia). Obviosly the game's got issues with ati card (so I've heard), but stop labeling two world 2 as a flawless game. It's not.

It was well recieved on pc but not crtical acclaim as the witcher 2. get over it man

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[QUOTE="cooloutac"][QUOTE="malebog123"]

oh please, we can here say we've been playing rpgs all the way from realms of arkania to Baldur's gate 2 to wizardry 8. My point is you've yet to give a VALID point regarding the witcher 2. Saying it's got cartoony models and look like and old console game only proves my point

that you're either stirring things up for the laugh or you truly just love two worlds to madness. No one can take you seriously when you say "witcher 2 looks like an old console game", that's just plain denial.

and from your other thread where you completely stated, that regarding the withcer 2, "sites like gamespot and IGN are totally biased liars......they get paid under the table no doubt."

Really? cd projokt paid ign?

Really?

malebog123

well then explain to me how all those review sites claim 2w2 is linear. when its more open world then oblivion? case closed....my friend....

Linear in plot and story progression man. that's what they mean. In the witcher 2, your decisions shapes the flow of the game, the plot spreads out like branches, while two worlds 2's plot follows a straight path, hence the linear labeling. Two worlds 2's strength lies in giving the player freedom to explore a huge world, the plot is what ties it in place. The witcher 2's strength lies in telling a story and giving the player choices in how the narrative plays out. Both games are different in what they try to achieve

what? haha wrong..... they mean linear as opposed to open world. specifically stating... both those sites stating "its not open world" which is a total lie. as i said. its more open world then oblivion.

explain to me why they would state 2w2 is not open world? go ahead and read the review on this site dude... its deplorable.

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[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

What are you talking about???

Two Worlds Two dosent have DX11 support and never will...Its only dx 10...and even dx10 isnt implemented very good...there are some visual bugs when using dx10 in 2W2...

bloodreaperfx

*sigh*...i was talking about the support patch for DX 11. As I said, in the previous post,the game itself does not use any dx 11 stuff. With the patch, it will probably have improved textures or something, but nothing along the lines of tesselation.

Or better yet, check out this post for pics:

http://twoworldsvault.ign.com/fullstory.php?id=58856

Dude that an article from 2010...Its been a year since then...and 2W2 is already at version 1.2...and still no dx11 in sight...iam on Two Worlds 2 official forum every week...and everyone there have abandoned their hopes for dx11...there will be no dx11 patch...and even if they will realease it...it will be 2 late...

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Yet the posts you quoted argued about graphics, mainly. Which looks better...meh...nevermind....I made my point.

bloodreaperfx

I dont know what point you were trying to make, the witcher 2 looks better?

Well thats a given im simply stating why, I only quoted that dude to agree with him TW2 gfx was achieved with its severe linearity.

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[QUOTE="bloodreaperfx"]

[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

What are you talking about???

Two Worlds Two dosent have DX11 support and never will...Its only dx 10...and even dx10 isnt implemented very good...there are some visual bugs when using dx10 in 2W2...

rhazzy

*sigh*...i was talking about the support patch for DX 11. As I said, in the previous post,the game itself does not use any dx 11 stuff. With the patch, it will probably have improved textures or something, but nothing along the lines of tesselation.

Or better yet, check out this post for pics:

http://twoworldsvault.ign.com/fullstory.php?id=58856

Dude that an article from 2010...Its been a year since then...and 2W2 is already at version 1.2...and still no dx11 in sight...iam on Two Worlds 2 official forum every week...and everyone there have abandoned their hopes for dx11...there will be no dx11 patch...and even if they will realease it...it will be 2 late...

I agree its not happening. but at least thank god its not dx9. on my machine, dx9 games are blurrier and micro stutter. its like having an hd tv...which displays non hd channels more poorly then regular old crt's.... the hd tv is meant for hd videos.

its obvious with the witcher 2... and theres just no excuse for a game that does not look that realistic to run this bad....

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[QUOTE="malebog123"]

[QUOTE="cooloutac"] well then explain to me how all those review sites claim 2w2 is linear. when its more open world then oblivion? case closed....my friend....cooloutac

Linear in plot and story progression man. that's what they mean. In the witcher 2, your decisions shapes the flow of the game, the plot spreads out like branches, while two worlds 2's plot follows a straight path, hence the linear labeling. Two worlds 2's strength lies in giving the player freedom to explore a huge world, the plot is what ties it in place. The witcher 2's strength lies in telling a story and giving the player choices in how the narrative plays out. Both games are different in what they try to achieve

what? haha wrong..... they mean linear as opposed to open world. specifically stating... both those sites stating "its not open world" which is a total lie. as i said. its more open world then oblivion.

explain to me why they would state 2w2 is not open world? go ahead and read the review on this site dude... its deplorable.

paste a link to the review that says so or a quote. Then we can talk. If not *shrug*

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[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

[QUOTE="bloodreaperfx"]

*sigh*...i was talking about the support patch for DX 11. As I said, in the previous post,the game itself does not use any dx 11 stuff. With the patch, it will probably have improved textures or something, but nothing along the lines of tesselation.

Or better yet, check out this post for pics:

http://twoworldsvault.ign.com/fullstory.php?id=58856

cooloutac

Dude that an article from 2010...Its been a year since then...and 2W2 is already at version 1.2...and still no dx11 in sight...iam on Two Worlds 2 official forum every week...and everyone there have abandoned their hopes for dx11...there will be no dx11 patch...and even if they will realease it...it will be 2 late...

I agree its not happening. but at least thank god its not dx9. on my machine, dx9 games are blurrier and micro stutter. its like having an hd tv...which displays non hd channels more poorly then regular old crt's.... the hd tv is meant for hd videos.

Funny, When two worlds 2 came out, I remember the forums going crazy and buzzing about ways to turn off the excessive blur.

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#34 cooloutac
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[QUOTE="cooloutac"]

[QUOTE="malebog123"]

Linear in plot and story progression man. that's what they mean. In the witcher 2, your decisions shapes the flow of the game, the plot spreads out like branches, while two worlds 2's plot follows a straight path, hence the linear labeling. Two worlds 2's strength lies in giving the player freedom to explore a huge world, the plot is what ties it in place. The witcher 2's strength lies in telling a story and giving the player choices in how the narrative plays out. Both games are different in what they try to achieve

malebog123

what? haha wrong..... they mean linear as opposed to open world. specifically stating... both those sites stating "its not open world" which is a total lie. as i said. its more open world then oblivion.

explain to me why they would state 2w2 is not open world? go ahead and read the review on this site dude... its deplorable.

paste a link to the review that says so or a quote. Then we can talk. If not *shrug*

i can't find them saying the enviornment, OR the plot is linear now haha. neither are... but i swear when 2w2 first came out thats what i read everywhere. even in the commnets by other people which was baffling. but when i got the game i was pleasantly surprised its more open world then oblvion.

either way more realistic looking enviornement and character models and a fully open 3d world. are what I look for in an rpg. everything else is just hype.

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[QUOTE="cooloutac"][QUOTE="rhazzy"]

Dude that an article from 2010...Its been a year since then...and 2W2 is already at version 1.2...and still no dx11 in sight...iam on Two Worlds 2 official forum every week...and everyone there have abandoned their hopes for dx11...there will be no dx11 patch...and even if they will realease it...it will be 2 late...

malebog123

I agree its not happening. but at least thank god its not dx9. on my machine, dx9 games are blurrier and micro stutter. its like having an hd tv...which displays non hd channels more poorly then regular old crt's.... the hd tv is meant for hd videos.

Funny, When two worlds 2 came out, I remember the forums going crazy and buzzing about ways to turn off the excessive blur.

yoru talking about motion blurr... which is advertised as a feature. in the witcher 2. motion blurr happens everytime you move the camera/look around. in 2w2 it only happens when you run really fast. but when wakling or running at medium speed, like witcher 2 speed. everything looks HD. thats not what i mean though your getting it confused. I'm saying crysis 2 looks dx9 blurry as well. I'm saying dx9 just looks blurrier period... I'm talking about the whole game period.
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[QUOTE="malebog123"]

[QUOTE="cooloutac"] what? haha wrong..... they mean linear as opposed to open world. specifically stating... both those sites stating "its not open world" which is a total lie. as i said. its more open world then oblivion.

explain to me why they would state 2w2 is not open world? go ahead and read the review on this site dude... its deplorable.

cooloutac

paste a link to the review that says so or a quote. Then we can talk. If not *shrug*

i can't find them saying the enviornment, OR the plot is linear now haha. neither are... but i swear when 2w2 first came out thats what i read everywhere. even in the commnets by other people which was baffling. but when i got the game i was pleasantly surprised its more open world then oblvion.

either way more realistic looking enviornement and character models and a fully open 3d world. are what I look for in an rpg. everything else is just hype.

to each his own I guess. Two world 2 is a great game, I only wished the plot had more to it. But I hope you stop going around slamming the witcher 2 with half truths and so on. Witcher 2 and two worlds 2 are great games with flaws of their own. Simple.

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[QUOTE="malebog123"]

[QUOTE="cooloutac"] I agree its not happening. but at least thank god its not dx9. on my machine, dx9 games are blurrier and micro stutter. its like having an hd tv...which displays non hd channels more poorly then regular old crt's.... the hd tv is meant for hd videos.cooloutac

Funny, When two worlds 2 came out, I remember the forums going crazy and buzzing about ways to turn off the excessive blur.

yoru talking about motion blurr... which is advertised as a feature. in the witcher 2. motion blurr happens everytime you move the camera/look around. in 2w2 it only happens when you run really fast. but when wakling or running at medium speed, like witcher 2 speed. everything looks HD. thats not what i mean though your getting it confused. I'm saying crysis 2 looks dx9 blurry as well. I'm saying dx9 just looks blurrier period... I'm talking about the whole game period.

I agree, crysis 2 is very inconsistent. SO MUCH UNECESSARY BLOOM!Oh yeah, something about two worlds 2 I find a bit annoying is the inventory system, it's not bad, it's just a tad bit clunky. How did you find it?

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#38 cooloutac
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[QUOTE="cooloutac"]

[QUOTE="malebog123"]

paste a link to the review that says so or a quote. Then we can talk. If not *shrug*

malebog123

i can't find them saying the enviornment, OR the plot is linear now haha. neither are... but i swear when 2w2 first came out thats what i read everywhere. even in the commnets by other people which was baffling. but when i got the game i was pleasantly surprised its more open world then oblvion.

either way more realistic looking enviornement and character models and a fully open 3d world. are what I look for in an rpg. everything else is just hype.

to each his own I guess. Two world 2 is a great game, I only wished the plot had more to it. But I hope you stop going around slamming the witcher 2 with half truths and so on. Witcher 2 and two worlds 2 are great games with flaws of their own. Simple.

what is the half truth? ign gave 2w2 a 6? and the witcher 2 a 9.0 i think similar with gamespot.. when the graphics look better to me, run at double the fps... and is 5 times more open world then oblivion. and the witcher 2 looks less realistic, runs and looks like garbage with a 2d/3d environment that is more linear then some console games...

so people buy new pcs and fancy graphics cards for the storyline? and cinematics? why not just pop in a dvd...

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[QUOTE="cooloutac"][QUOTE="malebog123"]

Funny, When two worlds 2 came out, I remember the forums going crazy and buzzing about ways to turn off the excessive blur.

malebog123

yoru talking about motion blurr... which is advertised as a feature. in the witcher 2. motion blurr happens everytime you move the camera/look around. in 2w2 it only happens when you run really fast. but when wakling or running at medium speed, like witcher 2 speed. everything looks HD. thats not what i mean though your getting it confused. I'm saying crysis 2 looks dx9 blurry as well. I'm saying dx9 just looks blurrier period... I'm talking about the whole game period.

I agree, crysis 2 is very inconsistent. SO MUCH UNECESSARY BLOOM!Oh yeah, something about two worlds 2 I find a bit annoying is the inventory system, it's not bad, it's just a tad bit clunky. How did you find it?

yes its clunky. i agree. the witcher 2 is better in every aspect imo, except graphics are less realistic looking, its not open world, not a very emerising environment...and it runs like utter crap.

the witcher 2 feels console like to me. even looting pepoles houses. i mean theres no emersment there. and all the cinematics make it like watching a movie.. not as bad as the bioware games but pretty bad. Its steps backwards in the evolution of gaming imo.... everything is instanced and the graphics feel recycled.

i mean for example. you can't just walk into somebodies house and take their loot in 2w2. they will def be angry and say something to you hahaha. and you''ll have to pick the lock. there is many many side puzzles in 2w2. even a guitar hero type game if you want to buy and instrument and play in the streets for money. you can do anything in it. 2w2 is a more traditional pc game, in the fact that everything is the emmerising gameplay in a 3d enviornement. ecerything is 3d... you are always in the world.....in other words... there is very little cutscenes. most of the cutscenes are taken right out of the 3d gameplay enviornment. theres no diff.... they are one and the same.... after the cutscene ends.. nothing changes... its the same graphics... and you are moving your dude in it. i mean litterally you can move around in the cutscene dialogue... its a FULL 3d environment. nothing is instanced except dungeons!!! and there is so many little details, and things that are possible, that you feel you are looking at a real world.

granted nobody is having sex like in the witcher 2. but i think you get the point. its a little 3d world that you have full control over.

not some cartoon drawings with alot of 2d feeling textures ... with most of the game being little linear instanced maps and cinematic cutscenes.

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The Witcher 2, no contest

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Considering my old HD5450 card can easily run 2W2 at medium settings with some at high, I'd say it isn't going to win ANY graphic awards. It is a rather low end game when it comes to this catagory.

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Considering my old HD5450 card can easily run 2W2 at medium settings with some at high, I'd say it isn't going to win ANY graphic awards. It is a rather low end game when it comes to this catagory.

Deathykins

the reason tw2 is harder to run.. is because it isn't optimized enough for newer hardware and software technologies. how hard it is to run just exposes the programmers and is not a good judge. the way i judge graphics is just how realistic they look and how 3d emmerising everything is....

but thanks to whoever linked the catalyst 11.6 drivers. I just tested them out. and why what a diff with the witcher 2 now dude. I can't thank you enough. Now I can no longer say the game runs like total crap. i still get hitching when loading new areas. but the icon pops up usually, and this is to be expected. MY hdd is not fast enough.... and there is no games that totally utilize enough ram.... so thats to be expected. but there is no more microstuttering dude. meaning that totally constant slight shakey blur that is so noticeable to a guy like me. you da man dude tks again... i'll stop posting now :) i still prefer an open world. but hey, the wticher 2 has a great story... and its def not as instanced and has much better textures then the bioware games... thats for sure :)

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Im sorry but this is stupid, it is obvious he is a troll, he bashes TW2 for running badly on old tech then if 2W2 runs crappy on new tech then thats OK.

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in absolute graphic quality terms, pure and simple, TW2 is better than 2W2. the amazing deatiled texture of skin, armor, buildings and forest and so on. 2W2 is a joke in comparison, especially at higher resolution; @2560x1600, you will know the outstanding quality of TW2's texture and 2W2 is merely ok.

2W2 has larger maps for sure; one might argue that 2W2's visual is more impressive because of the map size, but it matters not if we're talking about pure and simple visual quality.

as for the games themselves. free roaming gamers might prefer 2W2 and story/character driven, choice-consequence gamers would certainly prefer TW2.

it's moot attempting to convince free romaing lovers the importance of choice-consequence; "linearity" is the cardinal sin of game design for them...there's no conversation, there're only two monologues even it appears that there's a discussion.

personally, I think 2W2 is a mediocre free roamer, in respect to the high qulity Gothic 3 and the low end Oblivion. TW2, however, is among the best of choice-consequence RPGs in recent years.

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they both have the same looking main character, who have the same voice. i swear to got they copied each other. haha but besides that.

cooloutac

You obviously have not played Two Worlds and The Witcher if you believe The Witcher 2 copied Two Worlds 1 or 2 in any manner. Two Worlds 2 definitely copied The Witcher in regards to Geralt. I actually dicussed this on the Two Worlds forums, about how it sounded like they used the same voice actor from The Witcher. Maybe they did. Two Worlds 2 also copied Assassin's Creed; traveling over the rooftops looks nearly identical in animation to Assassin's Creed.

I finished both Two Worlds 2 and The Witcher 2. Both were pretty fun games, but I'm definitely in the group that prefers The Witcher 2.

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#46 cooloutac
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Im sorry but this is stupid, it is obvious he is a troll, he bashes TW2 for running badly on old tech then if 2W2 runs crappy on new tech then thats OK.

Silicel1
2w2 doesn't run crappy. thats whe whole point. your not that smart eh?
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#47 cooloutac
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[QUOTE="cooloutac"]

they both have the same looking main character, who have the same voice. i swear to got they copied each other. haha but besides that.

StrawberryHill

You obviously have not played Two Worlds and The Witcher if you believe The Witcher 2 copied Two Worlds 1 or 2 in any manner. Two Worlds 2 definitely copied The Witcher in regards to Geralt. I actually dicussed this on the Two Worlds forums, about how it sounded like they used the same voice actor from The Witcher. Maybe they did. Two Worlds 2 also copied Assassin's Creed; traveling over the rooftops looks nearly identical in animation to Assassin's Creed.

I finished both Two Worlds 2 and The Witcher 2. Both were pretty fun games, but I'm definitely in the group that prefers The Witcher 2.

the both have the same voice. they are both similar looking white guys with long white hair and similar body builds.... i never seen any two games pardon the pun on "two" that had main characters that looked so similar.
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#48 cooloutac
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in absolute graphic quality terms, pure and simple, TW2 is better than 2W2. the amazing deatiled texture of skin, armor, buildings and forest and so on. 2W2 is a joke in comparison, especially at higher resolution; @2560x1600, you will know the outstanding quality of TW2's texture and 2W2 is merely ok.

2W2 has larger maps for sure; one might argue that 2W2's visual is more impressive because of the map size, but it matters not if we're talking about pure and simple visual quality.

as for the games themselves. free roaming gamers might prefer 2W2 and story/character driven, choice-consequence gamers would certainly prefer TW2.

it's moot attempting to convince free romaing lovers the importance of choice-consequence; "linearity" is the cardinal sin of game design for them...there's no conversation, there're only two monologues even it appears that there's a discussion.

personally, I think 2W2 is a mediocre free roamer, in respect to the high qulity Gothic 3 and the low end Oblivion. TW2, however, is among the best of choice-consequence RPGs in recent years.

teardropmina

so you would say tw2 has more realistic graphics then 2w2? i disagree... it has more colors sure lol...but everything about tw2 screams recycled old textures and models, very cartoonlike with some things looking very 2d.....with excessive AA and very fake looking colorful bloom thrown on top of it... not optimzied worth a dam. the 11.6 drivers helped a little. but the game still should be running much better then it does. i guarantee if the game was dx10 it would look and run better...

and i'm sorry i'd pick a full 3d open world with smoother graphics over a better storyline anyday.....but i guess i'm a minority.... i mean look how popular da2 and me2 are. You might as well pop in a dvd instead of playing those games.

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#49 mhofever
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Ehhh, The Witcher 2 still holds out more superior. Two Worlds II was not bad, even the multi-player was pretty cool but the main quest in Two Worlds II was flat out boring and a chore. Also, playing the warrior class can be boring and repetitive.

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#50 cooloutac
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Ehhh, The Witcher 2 still holds out more superior. Two Worlds II was not bad, even the multi-player was pretty cool but the main quest in Two Worlds II was flat out boring and a chore. Also, playing the warrior class can be boring and repetitive.

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you have a point