Wheres the outrage that BF3 isn't a PC exclusive!!

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#1 1q3er5
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I'm mad. I hope at least they make the PC version first and THEN strip it down for a console port - the way they should make all games.

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#2 NedJasons
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Dude, you have no idea how much I agree with you, I'm tried of crappy PC games because its a port from a console. Such a sad thing seeing all that money wasted for online play
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#3 MrLions
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We've already raged about this thanks for bringing it back up! :cry:....
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#4 ventnor
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Uhh read up on the news, I made a thread abit back, they're developing the new engine for Dx11 and 64 bit, that means it's developed for PC, then ported to consoles.

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The rage has significantly died down since it seems they're taking the same steps developing BF3 that they did with BF2. Primarily, they're optimizing the BF3 engine for DX11 features, which is pretty much what BF2 did when going from DX8 to DX9. Secondly, they're also looking into moving player caps back up to 64 players for PC, which they weren't able to do with BC2 due to bandwidth caps for consoles. Both of these key characteristics show that the PC version of BF3 is lining itself up to be a PC-to-console port, rather than the other way around.

So don't fret about it; DICE is not exactly ready to screw us over just yet ;)

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#6 rmfd341
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There was a topic last week...
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#7 fabounito
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Battlefield is first a pc game so they must bring BF3 on pc plateform ! I hope they won't so stupid to be lead by their main marketing goals
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The rage has significantly died down since it seems they're taking the same steps developing BF3 that they did with BF2. Primarily, they're optimizing the BF3 engine for DX11 features, which is pretty much what BF2 did when going from DX8 to DX9. Secondly, they're also looking into moving player caps back up to 64 players for PC, which they weren't able to do with BC2 due to bandwidth caps for consoles. Both of these key characteristics show that the PC version of BF3 is lining itself up to be a PC-to-console port, rather than the other way around.

So don't fret about it; DICE is not exactly ready to screw us over just yet ;)

ravenguard90

This. It really is a case of just reading a) the designers blog or 2) reading the news here on GS or IGN or many of the other game sites before getting excited. I do hate down up porting though.

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#9 1q3er5
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Well I'm happy to hear this but I think 64 players is too small now, I hope the maps for multiplayer are way larger than the ones for the console version. Well lets see what happens.
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#10 9mmSpliff
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Does not shock me, but was reading in the news about it being Dx11 and 64bit, so that's great news :D
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#11 Pvt_r3d
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Who says the game is going to be ported FROM consoles?
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#12 FatSlasH
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Keep in mind that Bad Company is just a spinoff, it was never meant to be like BF2. So BF3 should have the same features as BF2 and more.

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#13 JohnF111
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The rage has significantly died down since it seems they're taking the same steps developing BF3 that they did with BF2. Primarily, they're optimizing the BF3 engine for DX11 features, which is pretty much what BF2 did when going from DX8 to DX9. Secondly, they're also looking into moving player caps back up to 64 players for PC, which they weren't able to do with BC2 due to bandwidth caps for consoles. Both of these key characteristics show that the PC version of BF3 is lining itself up to be a PC-to-console port, rather than the other way around.

So don't fret about it; DICE is not exactly ready to screw us over just yet ;)

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PC can do everything a console can except less limited so surely they will take the nice road and do a PC to console port. Which i sort of agree upon even though my PC is dead to me for gaming(Ancient parts) and i'll be getting it for PS3. So sure why not strip out a PC-made game for PS3 as it is pretty much a deserved move.
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#14 Englando_IV
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Who says the game is going to be ported FROM consoles?Pvt_r3d
Even if it isn't' ported from consoles, the features and design will likely still be limited thanks to consoles.
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#15 dkdk999
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haha were you expecting it to be? does anyone know if this is going to be like the bad company games? (like with destruction and stuff) or not.
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[QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"]Who says the game is going to be ported FROM consoles?Englando_IV
Even if it isn't' ported from consoles, the features and design will likely still be limited thanks to consoles.

Battlefield 2 on PC was a big push they then gave the consoles a limited version small maps lower player count etc. We already know Dice is focusing on DX11 and scrapping DX9 on PC. So that should already tell you BF3 on consoles will be limited.
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#17 deactivated-5f0340ca5ecca
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They've announced Battlefield 3?
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#18 w4rrior17
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They've announced Battlefield 3?dannenissan2
Pretty much, yeah. Nothing official, but there have been talks about BF3. It's coming, don't worry.
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#19 Resistance_Kid
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I'm pretty sure that I've read the announcement... BF3 is going to be developed for PC first, and then on the consoles. DICE is not completely retarded yet lol.

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#20 DabsTight703
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I don't care if it's an exclusive or not. As long as it's a worthy successor to BF2 then I will be happy.
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#21 w4rrior17
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I'm pretty sure that I've read the announcement... BF3 is going to be developed for PC first, and then on the consoles. DICE is not completely retarded yet lol.

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Lol, are all those places in your sig paying you to advertise for them? Lmao.
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#22 Resistance_Kid
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[QUOTE="Resistance_Kid"]

I'm pretty sure that I've read the announcement... BF3 is going to be developed for PC first, and then on the consoles. DICE is not completely retarded yet lol.

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Lol, are all those places in your sig paying you to advertise for them? Lmao.

LOL No. :lol:

I just keep them there to be useful for others and for myself(I'm on GS a lot, I can just click on my sig to go where I want :) ).

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#23 w4rrior17
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Haha nice xD :p
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#24 Mystic-G
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There won't be outrage until its confirmed that they've held back PC to work on consoles. Then I'm sure you'll see some rage topics pop up here and there. I'm not sure what to think. As long as it's as good as BF2, I'll be fine. I don't think I could bear playing a large version of bad company 2.

How demanding the engine is, concerns me most.

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#25 SF_KiLLaMaN
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We do not know enough about the game to rage just yet.
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#26 adv_tr00per
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Console people don't deserve Battlefield 3 :evil:

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#27 zaku101
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What's the big deal bad company 2 turn out real well?

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#28 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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Console people don't deserve Battlefield 3 :evil:

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This I agree with. They can have their Halo and Killzone, but don't take mah Battlefield.

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#29 DoomZaW
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Because this isn't system wars?

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#30 JN_Fenrir
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I realize I'm going to get flamed for this, but...

Does anyone else actually prefer BC2's "consolized" (read: smaller and more focused) presentation over that of the regular Battlefield series? I was really into Battlefield 2 when it was first released, and although it's a great game, I honestly felt like the scope of the game just hampered its enjoyability much of the time. Huge maps are all well and good, but not when you constantly end up stranded half a mile from the battle because your idiot teammates each took off in their own vehicle and sped off without you, ignoring your requests for a ride. This was a problem even in servers at half capacity with only 32 players, as was the mass overpopulation of snipers, which was another problem exacerbated by the huge maps. And the squad system didn't help much either, as most squad leaders didn't seem to even understand the concept.

In sum: When it comes to multiplayer, I'll take a smaller, more focused game that gets everything right and gives players less opportunity to create headaches, rather than a wide-open, experimental cluster-(censored) where huge numbers of morons can run rampant, any day of the week.

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#31 millerlight89
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WE already raged last week, you are late to the party. Anyways there is a chance it will be like how different BF2 was on both PC and Xbox, kets wait and see ok?
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#32 jupsto
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I was actually much of a fan of bf2 when I bought like a year or two ago. but if its like bc2 but with 64 players and bigger maps then sign me up. seriously though how different can it be to bc2? dont mention singleplayer, I didn't bother with that on either of these games. they both set in same time period I presume and using the same engine and are the same type of game. so whats the point?

I realize I'm going to get flamed for this, but...

Does anyone else actually prefer BC2's "consolized" (read: smaller and more focused) presentation over that of the regular Battlefield series? I was really into Battlefield 2 when it was first released, and although it's a great game, I honestly felt like the scope of the game just hampered its enjoyability much of the time. Huge maps are all well and good, but not when you constantly end up stranded half a mile from the battle because your idiot teammates each took off in their own vehicle and sped off without you, ignoring your requests for a ride. This was a problem even in servers at half capacity with only 32 players, as was the mass overpopulation of snipers, which was another problem exacerbated by the huge maps. And the squad system didn't help much either, as most squad leaders didn't seem to even understand the concept.

In sum: When it comes to multiplayer, I'll take a smaller, more focused game that gets everything right and gives players less opportunity to create headaches, rather than a wide-open, experimental cluster-(censored) where huge numbers of morons can run rampant, any day of the week.

JN_Fenrir

while I kind of agree. I dont think it was smaller maps and less player which fixed those bf2 problems in bc2, they rebalanced and redid things such as the squad system, hopefully these new features will stay. but again I dont get why these two games need to be titled as different series, unless its some pointless singleplayer thing.

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#33 snover2009
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I'm mad. I hope at least they make the PC version first and THEN strip it down for a console port - the way they should make all games.

1q3er5

So you think they should make a game for PC then "strip it down" for a console.

Heres an Idea, how about the next big FPS is made for Consoles and then ported to PC with 1/3 of the content removed.

It pisses me off when game developers do this, they make one version of a game an then strip content from it when porting it to another system.

What pisses me off more is when people complain when a great game that was available on only one system has a sequel available on multiple systems. I played both Crysis and Crysis Warhead on the PC, but will be playing Crysis 2 on the PS3. The only possible complaint I would have with Crysis 2 coming to consoles is that Crytek didnt bother releasing Crysis 1 first on the consoles so people actually know what is going on in the game.

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#34 Cdscottie
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[QUOTE="1q3er5"]

I'm mad. I hope at least they make the PC version first and THEN strip it down for a console port - the way they should make all games.

snover2009

So you think they should make a game for PC then "strip it down" for a console.

Heres an Idea, how about the next big FPS is made for Consoles and then ported to PC with 1/3 of the content removed.

It pisses me off when game developers do this, they make one version of a game an then strip content from it when porting it to another system.

What pisses me off more is when people complain when a great game that was available on only one system has a sequel available on multiple systems. I played both Crysis and Crysis Warhead on the PC, but will be playing Crysis 2 on the PS3. The only possible complaint I would have with Crysis 2 coming to consoles is that Crytek didnt bother releasing Crysis 1 first on the consoles so people actually know what is going on in the game.

See a lot of people tend to get annoyed that the console becomes the limiting factor when developing a game. Such as the amount of AI on the screen at a time, capped Frames per second, smaller map sizes, and limited player counts for multiplayer games. They are not stating that they should strip it down just for the sake of stripping it down. They are just expressing their wish that the systems that have potential get used to it's full potential, instead of just limited to the lowest denominator.
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#35 Hekynn
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It doesn't matter anymore OP!! Every game is mutiplatform these days and as long its in DX11 then that's fine for me.
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#36 Daytona_178
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It doesn't matter anymore OP!! Every game is mutiplatform these days and as long its in DX11 then that's fine for me. Hekynn
Exactly, people dont seem to understand that if the game was PC exclusive then they would make a lot less profit...also seeing as PC gaming is ridiculously easy to pirate these days.
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#37 R4gn4r0k
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Outrage !

I'm not that mad tbh so long as the PC version doesn't suffer from the console ports (if it isn't the PC version that's being ported).

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#38 Brendissimo35
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I have more faith in DICE than in quite a few other gaming companies, but this really upset me. After a decade of watching my beloved PC gaming get pimped out by big companies to make a quick buck, or thrown to the side of the road in favor of more profitable but dumbed down console development, I am an eternal skeptic. But I do have a bit of hope for BF3.

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#39 SilentTape
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BF3 ?!?!?!? CRYSIS 2 ISNT A PC EXCLUSIVE ANYMORE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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#40 SF_KiLLaMaN
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BF3 ?!?!?!? CRYSIS 2 ISNT A PC EXCLUSIVE ANYMORE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHSilentTape
Battlefield 2 is better than Crysis will ever be.
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#41 California74
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i would rather they use the same 3D engine as Battlefield 2142 but make bigger maps with more vehicles and servers that holdMORE than 64 players.

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#42 Bikouchu35
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Im tired of small fights, I want it big and on pc only!

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#43 Resistance_Kid
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Im tired of small fights, I want it big and on pc only!

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64 People = big fights. What's there to hate? :D

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#44 Birdy09
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The rage has significantly died down since it seems they're taking the same steps developing BF3 that they did with BF2. Primarily, they're optimizing the BF3 engine for DX11 features, which is pretty much what BF2 did when going from DX8 to DX9. Secondly, they're also looking into moving player caps back up to 64 players for PC, which they weren't able to do with BC2 due to bandwidth caps for consoles. Both of these key characteristics show that the PC version of BF3 is lining itself up to be a PC-to-console port, rather than the other way around.

So don't fret about it; DICE is not exactly ready to screw us over just yet ;)

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Bad Company 2 has Direct X 11 does it not? still an console game at heart. 64 players on a console game just screams meh, unless it has huge maps (and no, not these tiny bc2 crap unisinpired maps) and full on jets/people carriers then as far as im concerned its a console game and a step back. so when saying "theyre thinking of raising it to 64" that just tells me its being balanced around 24-32 and then just unleashing a cap off the PC version.... which is crap.
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#45 THA-TODD-BEAST
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Everyone gave up on the true "Battlefield" games a long time ago. The last one, Battlefield 2142, was released 4+ years ago. That's a long, long time to wait for a proper new Battlefield title. It's no surprise, after how DICE has treated us lately, that Battlefield 3 is going to be a console game, too.

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#46 Rob_101
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I feel back stabbed and betrayed.... frostbite engine *shudders* :(

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#47 Rob_101
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Im tired of small fights, I want it big and on pc only!

Resistance_Kid

64 People = big fights. What's there to hate? :D

We had 64 people 6 years ago with BF2. They should up it to 128.

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#48 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

The rage has significantly died down since it seems they're taking the same steps developing BF3 that they did with BF2. Primarily, they're optimizing the BF3 engine for DX11 features, which is pretty much what BF2 did when going from DX8 to DX9. Secondly, they're also looking into moving player caps back up to 64 players for PC, which they weren't able to do with BC2 due to bandwidth caps for consoles. Both of these key characteristics show that the PC version of BF3 is lining itself up to be a PC-to-console port, rather than the other way around.

So don't fret about it; DICE is not exactly ready to screw us over just yet ;)

Birdy09

Bad Company 2 has Direct X 11 does it not? still an console game at heart. 64 players on a console game just screams meh, unless it has huge maps (and no, not these tiny bc2 crap unisinpired maps) and full on jets/people carriers then as far as im concerned its a console game and a step back. so when saying "theyre thinking of raising it to 64" that just tells me its being balanced around 24-32 and then just unleashing a cap off the PC version.... which is crap.

No they said they have been building the Frostbite 2.0 engine on the PC with DX 11 since the early development of DX11. Back in Feb they said that PC gamers will be blown away with what they have.

What's probably going to happen is that it is a PC game being ported to the PS3 and 360 with their versions of the Frostbite engine that will be like Battlefield 2 Modern Combat on the Xbox and PS2 back last gen.

When DICE said that PC gamers will be blown away and they have been extremely quiet about it for a few years, I am expecting that they will not be lying to us and will just be like "Here's the awesome 360 version. Oh yeah there is a PC version as well."

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#49 Wasdie  Moderator
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I feel back stabbed and betrayed.... frostbite engine *shudders* :(

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Frostbite 2.0 engine which was being developed with ATI with early DX 11 hardware. DICE isn't afraid to drop older versions of DX. They may just go native DX 11 with this game. Battlefield 2 was DX9 native, the first major game that was DX9 native and didn't support DX8 at all. For the record, the Source engine still supports DX8.

Sure they limit their audience, but maybe that is why there is a PS3 and 360 version, because the PC audience is going to be very small so they need a version of the game that can turn a profit.

I've heard that BF 1943 was nothing more than a quick moneymaker to help with BF3 and BF BC2. Then BF BC2 became the money maker for BF3.

DICE is pretty smart with releasing games like they have.

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#50 Brendissimo35
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Im tired of small fights, I want it big and on pc only!

Rob_101

64 People = big fights. What's there to hate? :D

We had 64 people 6 years ago with BF2. They should up it to 128.

Actually, if you do some research, you'll see that we almost had 128 people per server with BF2 6 years ago. They never found a way to mitigate the lag though. 64 is a bare bones minimum for my purchase of BF3.