[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="dakan45"] empty and souless with voice acting bigger and better map and more polished combat...right.....Better map? More like empty map. There's nothing in it. Except copy/paste "dungeons" with no loot or any incentive to enter them. so morrowind is not like that? because it was last time i checked.... It isn't like that at all. There probably isn't a "last time you checked" because I doubt you played the game. You could come up on several quests just traveling from town to town - and dungeons are filled with danger and possibilities of great loot.dakan45
Which one;s better: Morrowind or Oblivion?
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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"][QUOTE="dakan45"] empty and souless with voice acting bigger and better map and more polished combat...right.....
dakan45
Mediocre repetitive voice acting and button mash (well, mashing one button at least) combat aren't improvements at all.
mediocre? every reviewer says they are cutting edge and having voice acting is better than not having, the combat is the best i ever seen in an rpg, hows button mashing? in morrowind all you do is press the attack button for ever no actual block only a skill that you can use with right mouse IF you have a shield... Same thing with combat in Oblivion, all you do is press a mouse button and move around. Also, why do I care what a reviewer says? If a reviewer is saying that the game did an amazing job with the voice acting then I really don't think that I would ever listen to their reviews. Also, what's your opinion on the level scaling and removal of skills, spells etc.?never played morrowind what is it?I've played both Morrowind and Oblivion, and I'm wondering what all you guys think about which is Worse:
MORROWIND OR OBLIVION??
derekc124
[QUOTE="derekc124"]never played morrowind what is it? Morrowind is TES III, the game that came before Oblivion and is much better then Oblivion. You could probably by the GOTY version at a Best Buy if your in the US.I've played both Morrowind and Oblivion, and I'm wondering what all you guys think about which is Worse:
MORROWIND OR OBLIVION??
heydude111
[QUOTE="heydude111"][QUOTE="derekc124"]never played morrowind what is it? Morrowind is TES III, the game that came before Oblivion and is much better then Oblivion. You could probably by the GOTY version at a Best Buy if your in the US. ooh. sounds nice. might drop by BB today.I've played both Morrowind and Oblivion, and I'm wondering what all you guys think about which is Worse:
MORROWIND OR OBLIVION??
Daggerfallfan
[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="heydude111"] never played morrowind what is it?heydude111Morrowind is TES III, the game that came before Oblivion and is much better then Oblivion. You could probably by the GOTY version at a Best Buy if your in the US. ooh. sounds nice. might drop by BB today. Read this first. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Morrowind_for_Oblivion_Players Also, there is no hand holding in Morrowind. It really is a good game but you actually need to be patient and also, READ, READ, and READ!!! You must read in Morrowind (Directions and other things like knowing what the great houses are requires reading)
True but they made the game that way so you wont have to spent extra time one leveling up (like you dont spent enough time already doing other things... if you had to level up it will take 50 extra hours). The wanted to allow the player to explore a dungeon without getting killed in the begining and allow you to take a non linear way and visit the town you want first and do the quests you want first...again am not saying you are wrong but it just reminds me kotor. The tutorial was very easy then the first planet the combat turned really hard and later on it got easy and much easier in the end... thats because all the planets had the same level enemies and it didnt felt like the game was getting harder as you play. I agree with what you say but am just saying that it was something diffirent an rpg that doesnt focus so much in leveling up.In oblivion YOU CANT enter an an area as level 1 character and ATTEMPT to defeat a level 20 character using guerilla hit and run tactics; in order to a TRY TO get an item that would be awesome as a reward.
Like in the might and magic series, i recall, if you chose to do so, ...as a low level party u can walk ur way to this dragons lair, spend around 45 mins TRYING to pepper the dragon with arrows and fire bolts, and with a whole lot of luck and (health potions), u can slay it and survice and reap a huge award....thats kind of scenario is just not possible in Oblivion.
multiplat
so morrowind is not like that? because it was last time i checked.... It isn't like that at all. There probably isn't a "last time you checked" because I doubt you played the game. You could come up on several quests just traveling from town to town - and dungeons are filled with danger and possibilities of great loot. meh they are the same as oblivion i traveled both in towns and dungeons they are the same as oblivion both loot and danger but require that you level up firs or you die... on the other hand fallout 3 has better balance in "dangers" and the areas ARE unique and the loot is just fine.[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Better map? More like empty map. There's nothing in it. Except copy/paste "dungeons" with no loot or any incentive to enter them.KHAndAnime
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]It isn't like that at all. There probably isn't a "last time you checked" because I doubt you played the game. You could come up on several quests just traveling from town to town - and dungeons are filled with danger and possibilities of great loot. meh they are the same as oblivion i traveled both in towns and dungeons they are the same as oblivion both loot and danger but require that you level up firs or you die... on the other hand fallout 3 has better balance in "dangers" and the areas ARE unique and the loot is just fine. No, they are not. In Morrowind the dungeons actually allow you to come across Daedric Gear at level 1 if you look at the right locations since they are HAND MADE. Oblivion's dungeons are mostly cookie-cutter with a few exceptions. Not to mention that tropes gave Oblivion the "Dungeons for the sake of Dungeons" trope and said that Morrowind had dungeons that actually made sense in the game world. (Like Dwemer ruins having beds, dressers desks, etc. (And not just Dwemer ruins either)[QUOTE="dakan45"] so morrowind is not like that? because it was last time i checked....dakan45
[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]mediocre? every reviewer says they are cutting edge and having voice acting is better than not having, the combat is the best i ever seen in an rpg, hows button mashing? in morrowind all you do is press the attack button for ever no actual block only a skill that you can use with right mouse IF you have a shield... Same thing with combat in Oblivion, all you do is press a mouse button and move around. Also, why do I care what a reviewer says? If a reviewer is saying that the game did an amazing job with the voice acting then I really don't think that I would ever listen to their reviews. Also, what's your opinion on the level scaling and removal of skills, spells etc.?Mediocre repetitive voice acting and button mash (well, mashing one button at least) combat aren't improvements at all.
Daggerfallfan
last time i checked i didnt miss as often as morrowind and i could block like an action game, as for the reviews...ok but if you ever say "but that game has so many high scores" ... i wont listen to you and i cant say i care for the opinion of a single old pc gamer as much as i care for the fanbase, sales and reviews.
[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] It isn't like that at all. There probably isn't a "last time you checked" because I doubt you played the game. You could come up on several quests just traveling from town to town - and dungeons are filled with danger and possibilities of great loot.meh they are the same as oblivion i traveled both in towns and dungeons they are the same as oblivion both loot and danger but require that you level up firs or you die... on the other hand fallout 3 has better balance in "dangers" and the areas ARE unique and the loot is just fine. No, they are not. In Morrowind the dungeons actually allow you to come across Daedric Gear at level 1 if you look at the right locations since they are HAND MADE. Oblivion's dungeons are mostly cookie-cutter with a few exceptions. Not to mention that tropes gave Oblivion the "Dungeons for the sake of Dungeons" trope and said that Morrowind had dungeons that actually made sense in the game world. (Like Dwemer ruins having beds, dressers desks, etc. (And not just Dwemer ruins either)Daggerfallfan
Honestly i dont understand why would anyone prefer to level up his character from wealkling to superman and at the same time collect unique powerfull high level items?
Same thing with combat in Oblivion, all you do is press a mouse button and move around. Also, why do I care what a reviewer says? If a reviewer is saying that the game did an amazing job with the voice acting then I really don't think that I would ever listen to their reviews. Also, what's your opinion on the level scaling and removal of skills, spells etc.?[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="dakan45"] mediocre? every reviewer says they are cutting edge and having voice acting is better than not having, the combat is the best i ever seen in an rpg, hows button mashing? in morrowind all you do is press the attack button for ever no actual block only a skill that you can use with right mouse IF you have a shield...dakan45
last time i checked i didnt miss as often as morrowind and i could block like an action game, as for the reviews...ok but if you ever say "but that game has so many high scores" ... i wont listen to you and i cant say i care for the opinion of a single old pc gamer as much as i care for the fanbase, sales and reviews.
I came to Morrowind as an Oblivion player. Also, I would actually trust the reviews of other players far more then official reviewers. If you even go to the official forums Morrowind is clearly the winner in the (Now locked for a while) 3 Morrowind vs. Oblivion threads. Also, with the combat, you said that all Morrowind's combat was pressing the attack button. Same with Oblivion, with block it depends on the players preference. I prefer Morrowind's block system over Oblivions. To me, it seems like you didn't really approach Morrowind with an open mind.No, they are not. In Morrowind the dungeons actually allow you to come across Daedric Gear at level 1 if you look at the right locations since they are HAND MADE. Oblivion's dungeons are mostly cookie-cutter with a few exceptions. Not to mention that tropes gave Oblivion the "Dungeons for the sake of Dungeons" trope and said that Morrowind had dungeons that actually made sense in the game world. (Like Dwemer ruins having beds, dressers desks, etc. (And not just Dwemer ruins either)[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="dakan45"] meh they are the same as oblivion i traveled both in towns and dungeons they are the same as oblivion both loot and danger but require that you level up firs or you die... on the other hand fallout 3 has better balance in "dangers" and the areas ARE unique and the loot is just fine.dakan45
Honestly i dont understand why would anyone prefer to level up his character from wealkling to superman and at the same time collect unique powerfull high level items?
Because when you level up your supposed to get more powerful, the dungeons should actually give you motivation to explore them, and the game shouldn't be leveled to your character.Here's one example of something that impressed me in Morrowind.
I was doing the quest to fine a cure for Corprus, so I went to Tel Fyr, the Wizard who can provide me with a cure told me to go down into the clinic and fetch him an Item (Dwemer boots of some sort with a levitation ench), he also tells me that I cant kill any of the patients.]
Anyway I make my way down into the clinic and A victim of Corprus comes charging towards me, and of course my first reaction is to kill him.
As I make my way back to the Wizard he refuses me to give me the cure, which for me was an O shi- moment because you must find a cure before it effects you too much, and without being cured you cannot progress the plot.
Luckily I was playing as an Imperial so I could use my Voice of the emperor power to get him to like me, so I used it, and with a bit more persuasion he gave me the cure.
Moment like this create suspense in a tense situation that could potentially make you actually lose the game, there are no moments like this at all in Oblivion.
[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="heydude111"] ooh. sounds nice. might drop by BB today.heydude111Read this first. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Morrowind_for_Oblivion_Players Also, there is no hand holding in Morrowind. It really is a good game but you actually need to be patient and also, READ, READ, and READ!!! You must read in Morrowind (Directions and other things like knowing what the great houses are requires reading) no hand holding? whats that?
It means that the game isn't newbie-friendly.
Oblivion gave you a compass that showed you where to go to complete every quest objective, it let you fast travel anywhere, it wouldn't let you kill important NPCs, it would tell you if you were about to commit a crime by stealing, and you couldn't sell stolen goods to most vendors. Morrowind does none of this. Morrowind takes the guard rails off entirely. You can break the game by killing off NPCs vital for finishing the main quest. You can sell stolen goods to the people you stole them from and get a bounty put on your head instantly as a result. You're expected to realize when an action would be stealing and when it wouldn't. You can only fast travel at very specific locations. There are no quest markers whatsoever and the only way to know where you're going is to read the NPC directions very carefully and hope that it isn't one of the quests where the NPC gives you incorrect directions.
And why is Oblivion better? Also, perhaps you should read my previous post, I said that perhaps the fans should try an unmodded version of the other game with an open mind (Graphic enhancers are, of course, an exception).I'm just gonna not read all you're posts and say Oblivion.
555SSOO
[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"] No, they are not. In Morrowind the dungeons actually allow you to come across Daedric Gear at level 1 if you look at the right locations since they are HAND MADE. Oblivion's dungeons are mostly cookie-cutter with a few exceptions. Not to mention that tropes gave Oblivion the "Dungeons for the sake of Dungeons" trope and said that Morrowind had dungeons that actually made sense in the game world. (Like Dwemer ruins having beds, dressers desks, etc. (And not just Dwemer ruins either)Daggerfallfan
Honestly i dont understand why would anyone prefer to level up his character from wealkling to superman and at the same time collect unique powerfull high level items?
Because when you level up your supposed to get more powerful, the dungeons should actually give you motivation to explore them, and the game shouldn't be leveled to your character. Well in oblivion you supose to be a hero and no matter what level you are you have to destroy gates, plus "be" allowed to explore dungeons without dying and do quests in which ever city you choose the first time no worries about enemies being more powerfull, funny thing is i liked the level balance, wherever it was hard i lower the difficulity...wherever it was easy i incresed the difficulity..pretty good feature.[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="dakan45"]Because when you level up your supposed to get more powerful, the dungeons should actually give you motivation to explore them, and the game shouldn't be leveled to your character. Well in oblivion you supose to be a hero and no matter what level you are you have to destroy gates, plus "be" allowed to explore dungeons without dying and do quests in which ever city you choose the first time no worries about enemies being more powerfull, funny thing is i liked the level balance, wherever it was hard i lower the difficulity...wherever it was easy i incresed the difficulity..pretty good feature.Honestly i dont understand why would anyone prefer to level up his character from wealkling to superman and at the same time collect unique powerfull high level items?
dakan45
In other words; easy-mode RPG system. I enjoyed Oblivion, but I prefer to have a challenge rather than just click a button. I also like walking into a dungeon and seeing stuff I know would eat my lunch, it gives me a reason to come back.
[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="555SSOO"]And why is Oblivion better? no matter what he says you dissagree so forget about it.... I still think people should give reasons and actually play the games for more then say five minutes. I till think we should use the idea in my last post on the other page though. Besides, I do think that the AI was an improvement and that Bethesda had the right idea with the physics system. Perhaps Oblivion was even setting us up for Daggerfall 2, just like Oblivion was more of an Arena 2.I'm just gonna not read all you're posts and say Oblivion.
dakan45
Well in oblivion you supose to be a hero and no matter what level you are you have to destroy gates, plus "be" allowed to explore dungeons without dying and do quests in which ever city you choose the first time no worries about enemies being more powerfull, funny thing is i liked the level balance, wherever it was hard i lower the difficulity...wherever it was easy i incresed the difficulity..pretty good feature.[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"] Because when you level up your supposed to get more powerful, the dungeons should actually give you motivation to explore them, and the game shouldn't be leveled to your character.weirjf
In other words; easy-mode RPG system. I enjoyed Oblivion, but I prefer to have a challenge rather than just click a button. I also like walking into a dungeon and seeing stuff I know would eat my lunch, it gives me a reason to come back.
More like a more polished and accessable game, more polish better sound and actual voice acting, it cuts the unnesasary crap... (when i say crap i mean crap and not trolling the hardcore features) eg it adds a freaking makring in the map to find where you need to go, its like making a buggy game with lots of content and too many unnessary stuff in it.. but in the end the one that is more polished and accesable wins. stalker> boiling point.[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="dakan45"]Because when you level up your supposed to get more powerful, the dungeons should actually give you motivation to explore them, and the game shouldn't be leveled to your character. Well in oblivion you supose to be a hero and no matter what level you are you have to destroy gates, plus "be" allowed to explore dungeons without dying and do quests in which ever city you choose the first time no worries about enemies being more powerfull, funny thing is i liked the level balance, wherever it was hard i lower the difficulity...wherever it was easy i incresed the difficulity..pretty good feature.Honestly i dont understand why would anyone prefer to level up his character from wealkling to superman and at the same time collect unique powerfull high level items?
dakan45
It's the same way in Morrowind. In fact, without spoiling the game too much, your character in Morrowind is supposed to be MUCH more powerful and important than your character in Oblivion. The thing is, Morrowind is about self-discovery. You're a prisoner at the start of the game (just like all TES games) and when you get off you're pretty much a nobody. People in the world barely tolerate you and everything that wants to kill you pretty much can and will. However, as you keep playing, doing quests, and getting loot your character gets stronger. Eventually you'll be strong enough to start going back to NPCs who kicked your ass at the start of the game and return the favor in kind. Close to the end of the game you'll have gotten to a point where you're pretty much the most famous person on the island. Some people who hated you at the start of the game will now want to have your babies. In contrast, some factions who loved you at the start of the game will now be trying to kill you at all costs (effectively making some cities and areas off-limits, or at least a pain in the ass to travel through).
Morrowind is about actual, first-hand character development. You get to experience going from a nobody to a real hero. Oblivion is just a generic "you're a hero, get started saving people" game. It pretends that you're a nobody at the start of the game, but the fact that no NPC puts up a challenge at any point in the game pretty much ruins that illusion. In Morrowind, however, you will have to seriously contemplate giving a highwayman what he's asking for because he really can kill you early in the game. 20 levels later though you're killing demi-gods with weapons so powerful that just holding them will kill you if you don't have on the proper protection.
[QUOTE="weirjf"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Well in oblivion you supose to be a hero and no matter what level you are you have to destroy gates, plus "be" allowed to explore dungeons without dying and do quests in which ever city you choose the first time no worries about enemies being more powerfull, funny thing is i liked the level balance, wherever it was hard i lower the difficulity...wherever it was easy i incresed the difficulity..pretty good feature.dakan45
In other words; easy-mode RPG system. I enjoyed Oblivion, but I prefer to have a challenge rather than just click a button. I also like walking into a dungeon and seeing stuff I know would eat my lunch, it gives me a reason to come back.
More like a more polished and accessable game, more polish better sound and actual voice acting, it cuts the unnesasary crap... (when i say crap i mean crap and not trolling the hardcore features) eg it adds a freaking makring in the map to find where you need to go, its like making a buggy game with lots of content and too many unnessary stuff in it.. but in the end the one that is more polished and accesable wins. stalker> boiling point. Accessible and polished aren't the same thing. I actually think Daggerfall (With the DQfix) is better then both and that game can get quite glitchy. So it's neither polished nor super accessible.[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="weirjf"]More like a more polished and accessable game, more polish better sound and actual voice acting, it cuts the unnesasary crap... (when i say crap i mean crap and not trolling the hardcore features) eg it adds a freaking makring in the map to find where you need to go, its like making a buggy game with lots of content and too many unnessary stuff in it.. but in the end the one that is more polished and accesable wins. stalker> boiling point. Accessible and polished aren't the same thing. I actually think Daggerfall (With the DQfix) is better then both and that game can get quite glitchy.In other words; easy-mode RPG system. I enjoyed Oblivion, but I prefer to have a challenge rather than just click a button. I also like walking into a dungeon and seeing stuff I know would eat my lunch, it gives me a reason to come back.
Daggerfallfan
What the? how is daggerfall more accesable and polished? its not and no one will play such an old game.
Well in oblivion you supose to be a hero and no matter what level you are you have to destroy gates, plus "be" allowed to explore dungeons without dying and do quests in which ever city you choose the first time no worries about enemies being more powerfull, funny thing is i liked the level balance, wherever it was hard i lower the difficulity...wherever it was easy i incresed the difficulity..pretty good feature.[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"] Because when you level up your supposed to get more powerful, the dungeons should actually give you motivation to explore them, and the game shouldn't be leveled to your character.gameguy6700
It's the same way in Morrowind. In fact, without spoiling the game too much, your character in Morrowind is supposed to be MUCH more powerful and important than your character in Oblivion. The thing is, Morrowind is about self-discovery. You're a prisoner at the start of the game (just like all TES games) and when you get off you're pretty much a nobody. People in the world barely tolerate you and everything that wants to kill you pretty much can and will. However, as you keep playing, doing quests, and getting loot your character gets stronger. Eventually you'll be strong enough to start going back to NPCs who kicked your ass at the start of the game and return the favor in kind. Close to the end of the game you'll have gotten to a point where you're pretty much the most famous person on the island. Some people who hated you at the start of the game will now want to have your babies. In contrast, some factions who loved you at the start of the game will now be trying to kill you at all costs (effectively making some cities and areas off-limits, or at least a pain in the ass to travel through).
Morrowind is about actual, first-hand character development. You get to experience going from a nobody to a real hero. Oblivion is just a generic "you're a hero, get started saving people" game. It pretends that you're a nobody at the start of the game, but the fact that no NPC puts up a challenge at any point in the game pretty much ruins that illusion. In Morrowind, however, you will have to seriously contemplate giving a highwayman what he's asking for because he really can kill you early in the game. 20 levels later though you're killing demi-gods with weapons so powerful that just holding them will kill you if you don't have on the proper protection.
Please spoil me the story because i aint gonna re play it....[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Dakan, just curious, and be honest, how old are you?dakan4532.... you? 17 years old. How long have you been gaming?
Accessible and polished aren't the same thing. I actually think Daggerfall (With the DQfix) is better then both and that game can get quite glitchy.[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="dakan45"]More like a more polished and accessable game, more polish better sound and actual voice acting, it cuts the unnesasary crap... (when i say crap i mean crap and not trolling the hardcore features) eg it adds a freaking makring in the map to find where you need to go, its like making a buggy game with lots of content and too many unnessary stuff in it.. but in the end the one that is more polished and accesable wins. stalker> boiling point.dakan45
What the? how is daggerfall more accesable and polished? its not and no one will play such an old game.
Clearly I would, old doesn't mean bad. I have a friend who says that Arena is the best game in the TES series. Also, I realized my post was unfinished. I finished it now. Besides, I have had more problems with glitches in Oblivion then Morrowind (Only problem was that the game crashes once and a while. Not too bad.).Interesting. Just curious because the only players I've seen who prefer Oblivion vastly over Morrowind either... A) Never played Morrowind at its time of release. B) Are Casual/Console Gamers (nothing wrong with that) C) Little kids who don't understand the game. I'm doubting you gave Morrowind much of a chance yourself though.Since 1992
dakan45
[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"] Accessible and polished aren't the same thing. I actually think Daggerfall (With the DQfix) is better then both and that game can get quite glitchy.Daggerfallfan
What the? how is daggerfall more accesable and polished? its not and no one will play such an old game.
Clearly I would, ollddoesn't mean bad. I have a friend who says that Arena is the best game in the TES series. ok but i dont think its worth qoing all the way back in morrowind and go all the way back in arena and say how good those games are just because they were better and more complex than the new ones, because every year games lose quality, complexity and content and gain only graphics.... i like in my opinion the example of perfect balance beetween all these and all rpg features in terms of everything you can rate good and bad in an rpg and i pick oblivon.[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Well in oblivion you supose to be a hero and no matter what level you are you have to destroy gates, plus "be" allowed to explore dungeons without dying and do quests in which ever city you choose the first time no worries about enemies being more powerfull, funny thing is i liked the level balance, wherever it was hard i lower the difficulity...wherever it was easy i incresed the difficulity..pretty good feature.dakan45
It's the same way in Morrowind. In fact, without spoiling the game too much, your character in Morrowind is supposed to be MUCH more powerful and important than your character in Oblivion. The thing is, Morrowind is about self-discovery. You're a prisoner at the start of the game (just like all TES games) and when you get off you're pretty much a nobody. People in the world barely tolerate you and everything that wants to kill you pretty much can and will. However, as you keep playing, doing quests, and getting loot your character gets stronger. Eventually you'll be strong enough to start going back to NPCs who kicked your ass at the start of the game and return the favor in kind. Close to the end of the game you'll have gotten to a point where you're pretty much the most famous person on the island. Some people who hated you at the start of the game will now want to have your babies. In contrast, some factions who loved you at the start of the game will now be trying to kill you at all costs (effectively making some cities and areas off-limits, or at least a pain in the ass to travel through).
Morrowind is about actual, first-hand character development. You get to experience going from a nobody to a real hero. Oblivion is just a generic "you're a hero, get started saving people" game. It pretends that you're a nobody at the start of the game, but the fact that no NPC puts up a challenge at any point in the game pretty much ruins that illusion. In Morrowind, however, you will have to seriously contemplate giving a highwayman what he's asking for because he really can kill you early in the game. 20 levels later though you're killing demi-gods with weapons so powerful that just holding them will kill you if you don't have on the proper protection.
Please spoil me the story because i aint gonna re play it.... Just try it one more time. Seriously, I have made a suggestion for Morrowind fans to try unmodded Oblivion and Oblivion fans to try unmodded Morrowind and to search for the positive things. You won't even retry Morrowind and you don't seem to have approached it with an open mind when you first played it either. It seems like you think that Old Game=Trash and New Game=Amazing.[QUOTE="dakan45"]Interesting. Just curious because the only players I've seen who prefer Oblivion vastly over Morrowind either... A) Never played Morrowind at its time of release. B) Are Casual/Console Gamers (nothing wrong with that) C) Little kids who don't understand the game. I'm doubting you gave Morrowind much of a chance yourself though. 1) i didnt play it since release i played later, but i am fun of old rpgs like fallout 2 but in morrowid, combat,soudn dialogues, quests all of them feel so slow and borring and too not complex but naking unnesacary slow progress 2)I am in the middle not too casual like the new console games not as unnesacary hardcore as morrowind and neverwinter nights 3) i played the game for 25 hours... jeez what a bore 4) i am amazed that you are 17 and you actually like the game.Since 1992
KHAndAnime
[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"]Please spoil me the story because i aint gonna re play it.... Just try it one more time. Seriously, I have made a suggestion for Morrowind fans to try unmodded Oblivion and Oblivion fans to try unmodded Morrowind and to search for the positive things. You won't even retry Morrowind and you don't seem to have approached it with an open mind when you first played it either. It seems like you think that Old Game=Trash and New Game=Amazing.It's the same way in Morrowind. In fact, without spoiling the game too much, your character in Morrowind is supposed to be MUCH more powerful and important than your character in Oblivion. The thing is, Morrowind is about self-discovery. You're a prisoner at the start of the game (just like all TES games) and when you get off you're pretty much a nobody. People in the world barely tolerate you and everything that wants to kill you pretty much can and will. However, as you keep playing, doing quests, and getting loot your character gets stronger. Eventually you'll be strong enough to start going back to NPCs who kicked your ass at the start of the game and return the favor in kind. Close to the end of the game you'll have gotten to a point where you're pretty much the most famous person on the island. Some people who hated you at the start of the game will now want to have your babies. In contrast, some factions who loved you at the start of the game will now be trying to kill you at all costs (effectively making some cities and areas off-limits, or at least a pain in the ass to travel through).
Morrowind is about actual, first-hand character development. You get to experience going from a nobody to a real hero. Oblivion is just a generic "you're a hero, get started saving people" game. It pretends that you're a nobody at the start of the game, but the fact that no NPC puts up a challenge at any point in the game pretty much ruins that illusion. In Morrowind, however, you will have to seriously contemplate giving a highwayman what he's asking for because he really can kill you early in the game. 20 levels later though you're killing demi-gods with weapons so powerful that just holding them will kill you if you don't have on the proper protection.
Daggerfallfan
1) its slow i mean very slow
2) slow and lame combat that focuses to much on leveling up
3) no quest indictators too much search
4) too slow transportation
5) no voice acting in dialogues
i hate those things i cant replay it, but if you tell me that the story turns epic latter on i might give it a chance...so start spoiling the story.
Just try it one more time. Seriously, I have made a suggestion for Morrowind fans to try unmodded Oblivion and Oblivion fans to try unmodded Morrowind and to search for the positive things. You won't even retry Morrowind and you don't seem to have approached it with an open mind when you first played it either. It seems like you think that Old Game=Trash and New Game=Amazing.[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Please spoil me the story because i aint gonna re play it....dakan45
1) its slow i mean very slow
2) slow and lame combat that focuses to much on leveling up
3) no quest indictators too much search
4) too slow transportation
5) no voice acting in dialogues
i hate those things i cant replay it, but if you tell me that the story turns epic latter on i might give it a chance...so start spoiling the story.
It's just that the story loses its effectiveness if its spoiled I would think but we can spoil it for you. First though, how far did you get. Also, the quest indicators can be added through mods I think but the game DOES (For the most part that is) give you decent directions, you just have to read them. Also, you shouldn't just focus on the main quest or you will obviously have no clue what it going on.Please Log In to post.
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