Which one;s better: Morrowind or Oblivion?

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#151 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"] Just try it one more time. Seriously, I have made a suggestion for Morrowind fans to try unmodded Oblivion and Oblivion fans to try unmodded Morrowind and to search for the positive things. You won't even retry Morrowind and you don't seem to have approached it with an open mind when you first played it either. It seems like you think that Old Game=Trash and New Game=Amazing.Daggerfallfan

1) its slow i mean very slow

2) slow and lame combat that focuses to much on leveling up

3) no quest indictators too much search

4) too slow transportation

5) no voice acting in dialogues

i hate those things i cant replay it, but if you tell me that the story turns epic latter on i might give it a chance...so start spoiling the story.

It's just that the story loses its effectiveness if its spoiled I would think but we can spoil it for you. First though, how far did you get. Also, the quest indicators can be added through mods I think but the game DOES (For the most part that is) give you decent directions, you just have to read them. Also, you shouldn't just focus on the main quest or you will obviously have no clue what it going on.


Well after too much exploring leveling up and despertly TRYING to find where i need to go the main guest guided... (In cordinates...seriously why cant i atleast have a freaking compass? eg NW yeah ok where the hell is that? )me here:

i was suposed to find something or someone but it was so borring and dull so far that i said WHATEVER... propably nothing interresting will happen.

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#152 Jd1680a
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I would say Morrowind is better.
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#153 Daggerfallfan
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[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="dakan45"]

1) its slow i mean very slow

2) slow and lame combat that focuses to much on leveling up

3) no quest indictators too much search

4) too slow transportation

5) no voice acting in dialogues

i hate those things i cant replay it, but if you tell me that the story turns epic latter on i might give it a chance...so start spoiling the story.

dakan45

It's just that the story loses its effectiveness if its spoiled I would think but we can spoil it for you. First though, how far did you get. Also, the quest indicators can be added through mods I think but the game DOES (For the most part that is) give you decent directions, you just have to read them. Also, you shouldn't just focus on the main quest or you will obviously have no clue what it going on.


Well after too much exploring leveling up and despertly TRYING to find where i need to go the main guest guided... (In cordinates...seriously why cant i atleast have a freaking compass? eg NW yeah ok where the hell is that? )me here:

i was suposed to find something or someone but it was so borring and dull so far that i said WHATEVER... propably nothing interresting will happen.

No wonder your having trouble. One of your Vivec Informants is hiding, in the sewers.
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#154 dakan45
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:shock:....ok now i am 200% sure that i wont touch it again... now we got to search the sewers... where does the next quest take place in the sky? do i have to get aerial cordinates?.....i thought i was playing and rpg not an adventure... well i just give up this game is not for me, whats the story anyway?
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#155 KHAndAnime
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Dakan, it's odd how you find everything so difficult. The game tells you everything you need to know in your journal. My brother beat this game when he was 12 years old (he's 13 now). Just takes a little effort bud. The developers are going to assume that you know how to pick up hints and know some basic skills to find where you're going. Ever tried opening your journal?

EDIT: Yea, I definitely would stick to Oblivion if I were you. Dark Messiah of Might and Magic too.

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#156 dakan45
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Dakan, it's odd how you find everything so difficult. The game tells you everything you need to know in your journal. My brother beat this game when he was 12 years old (he's 13 now). Just takes a little effort bud. The developers are going to assume that you know how to pick up hints and know some basic skills to find where you're going. Ever tried opening your journal?KHAndAnime
yeah and see all those days and what i did every day....no thaks not for me, as a matter of fact i find it weird because all my friends agree on the fact that its unessacry confusive and not giving much info...
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#157 dakan45
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both oblivion and dark messiah have more action and are much more interesting and faster than morowind....
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Dakan, it's odd how you find everything so difficult. The game tells you everything you need to know in your journal. My brother beat this game when he was 12 years old (he's 13 now). Just takes a little effort bud. The developers are going to assume that you know how to pick up hints and know some basic skills to find where you're going. Ever tried opening your journal?dakan45
yeah and see all those days and what i did every day....no thaks not for me, as a matter of fact i find it weird because all my friends agree on the fact that its unessacry confusive and not giving much info...

There's nothing unnecessarily confusing about the game. It's just some people can read text that tells you where to go, and others need a big compass or a yellow line so they always know exactly where to go. The people who like Morrowind enjoy figuring out things for themselves.
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#159 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Dakan, it's odd how you find everything so difficult. The game tells you everything you need to know in your journal. My brother beat this game when he was 12 years old (he's 13 now). Just takes a little effort bud. The developers are going to assume that you know how to pick up hints and know some basic skills to find where you're going. Ever tried opening your journal?KHAndAnime
yeah and see all those days and what i did every day....no thaks not for me, as a matter of fact i find it weird because all my friends agree on the fact that its unessacry confusive and not giving much info...

There's nothing unnecessarily confusing about the game. It's just some people can read text that tells you where to go, and others need a big compass or a yellow line so they always know exactly where to go. The people who like Morrowind enjoy figuring out things for themselves.

Sorry but saying "there is nothing wrong with that" is like saying there is nothing wrong with any actual flow in game, sorry but it is wrong, not having a map indicator and saying go SW and NW when YOU DONT HAVE A COMPASS IN THE FIRST PLACE !!!!! Its wrong like the half of the game designers couldnt agree with the other half, the game doest everything to be confusive. Atleast add some NW SW typed down at the edge of the map....but no,not even that can is allowed in the game because there is nothing wrong with that...on second thought why gta games got mission indicators? It will be so much better without them....NOT. I am done with you there no need to discuss anything if you say "there is nothing wrong with everything"
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Morrowind is a heck of a lot better than Oblivion.

Also, Draken, its not the game's fault you suck at it.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="dakan45"] yeah and see all those days and what i did every day....no thaks not for me, as a matter of fact i find it weird because all my friends agree on the fact that its unessacry confusive and not giving much info...

There's nothing unnecessarily confusing about the game. It's just some people can read text that tells you where to go, and others need a big compass or a yellow line so they always know exactly where to go. The people who like Morrowind enjoy figuring out things for themselves.

Sorry but saying "there is nothing wrong with that" is like saying there is nothing wrong with any actual flow in game, sorry but it is wrong, not having a map indicator and saying go SW and NW when YOU DONT HAVE A COMPASS IN THE FIRST PLACE !!!!! Its wrong like the half of the game designers couldnt agree with the other half, the game doest everything to be confusive. Atleast add some NW SW typed down at the edge of the map....but no,not even that can is allowed in the game because there is nothing wrong with that...on second thought why gta games got mission indicators? It will be so much better without them....NOT. I am done with you there no need to discuss anything if you say "there is nothing wrong with everything"

How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?
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#162 dakan45
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Morrowind is a heck of a lot better than Oblivion.

Also, Draken, its not the game's fault you suck at it.

lettuceman44
I dont suck at it, its borring and slow as hell... ohh wait a minute so because i cant find what i need to do i suck at it? Ok its an adventure game not an rpg.
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#163 dakan45
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] There's nothing unnecessarily confusing about the game. It's just some people can read text that tells you where to go, and others need a big compass or a yellow line so they always know exactly where to go. The people who like Morrowind enjoy figuring out things for themselves.

Sorry but saying "there is nothing wrong with that" is like saying there is nothing wrong with any actual flow in game, sorry but it is wrong, not having a map indicator and saying go SW and NW when YOU DONT HAVE A COMPASS IN THE FIRST PLACE !!!!! Its wrong like the half of the game designers couldnt agree with the other half, the game doest everything to be confusive. Atleast add some NW SW typed down at the edge of the map....but no,not even that can is allowed in the game because there is nothing wrong with that...on second thought why gta games got mission indicators? It will be so much better without them....NOT. I am done with you there no need to discuss anything if you say "there is nothing wrong with everything"

How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?

how can you? After all those posts you guys havent posted not one legittimate reason why morrowind is better than oblivion, unlikely i have posted reasons that actually DO matter according to gaming reviewing sites....
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:shock:....ok now i am 200% sure that i wont touch it again... now we got to search the sewers... where does the next quest take place in the sky? do i have to get aerial cordinates?.....i thought i was playing and rpg not an adventure... well i just give up this game is not for me, whats the story anyway?dakan45
Don't worry. Just ask around the cantons of Vivec. Trust me, some people tell you where to find the Khajiit (Hint, look around near the entrance to that part of the sewers, if she isn't really close, exit and enter through a different entrance. I can even tell you what canton she is in. Also, no sky worlds thankfully. I believe the next quest, after Vivec Informants is completed, simply requires you to go to Aldruhn to talk to an Ashlander. The main quest starts to get more epic when you take out one of the bad guys bases and by the end of the game YOU kill the big bad, not Caius, not someone else, YOU! Trust me, the main quest is really good but you barley got anywhere in it. All you have done is start to get information. Give Morrowind another go and approach it with an open mind, you might actually enjoy it. I know that Oblivion is a great game I just don't think that it is remotely a good example of an RPG. Also, with Morrowind, don't just focus on the MQ, you will end up insanely confused. Walk around, join some guilds, do some quests.
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#165 Meejoe27
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So clearly the general population agrees Morrowind > Oblivion.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Sorry but saying "there is nothing wrong with that" is like saying there is nothing wrong with any actual flow in game, sorry but it is wrong, not having a map indicator and saying go SW and NW when YOU DONT HAVE A COMPASS IN THE FIRST PLACE !!!!! Its wrong like the half of the game designers couldnt agree with the other half, the game doest everything to be confusive. Atleast add some NW SW typed down at the edge of the map....but no,not even that can is allowed in the game because there is nothing wrong with that...on second thought why gta games got mission indicators? It will be so much better without them....NOT. I am done with you there no need to discuss anything if you say "there is nothing wrong with everything"

How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?

how can you? After all those posts you guys havent posted not one legittimate reason why morrowind is better than oblivion, unlikely i have posted reasons that actually DO matter according to gaming reviewing sites....

Here is a reason, it has more choices then Oblivion. Here is another, you can become a werewolf in it. There really are more like how you have more dialogue topics then Oblivion. Sure, Morrowind is a little dated but it still is a great game and I think you would really enjoy Daggerfall, it is like a better version of Oblivion. (They are similar in a lot of ways)
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#167 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Sorry but saying "there is nothing wrong with that" is like saying there is nothing wrong with any actual flow in game, sorry but it is wrong, not having a map indicator and saying go SW and NW when YOU DONT HAVE A COMPASS IN THE FIRST PLACE !!!!! Its wrong like the half of the game designers couldnt agree with the other half, the game doest everything to be confusive. Atleast add some NW SW typed down at the edge of the map....but no,not even that can is allowed in the game because there is nothing wrong with that...on second thought why gta games got mission indicators? It will be so much better without them....NOT. I am done with you there no need to discuss anything if you say "there is nothing wrong with everything"

How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?

how can you? After all those posts you guys havent posted not one legittimate reason why morrowind is better than oblivion, unlikely i have posted reasons that actually DO matter according to gaming reviewing sites....

People have already posted why Morrowind is better than Oblivion thousands of times. None of these reasons are going to matter to you because you're not even capable of bringing up the map and thinking "Oh, Northwest, that's probably towards the top left of my location on the map". You lack the patience, the understanding, and the common sense required to play a game like Morrowind. It's no wonder why we can't have worthwhile and fulfilling games these days - where you are given a second to think for yourself. The game market is full of guys like you.
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#168 nilzg
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overall I'd say morrowind is better

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#169 dakan45
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So clearly the general population agrees Morrowind > Oblivion.

Meejoe27
the general population agrees on oblivion>morrowind because there are more casual gamers than hardcore and oldschool rpgs players
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#170 swazidoughman
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?KHAndAnime
how can you? After all those posts you guys havent posted not one legittimate reason why morrowind is better than oblivion, unlikely i have posted reasons that actually DO matter according to gaming reviewing sites....

People have already posted why Morrowind is better than Oblivion thousands of times. None of these reasons are going to matter to you because you're not even capable of bringing up the map and thinking "Oh, Northwest, that's probably towards the top left of my location on the map". You lack the patience, the understanding, and the common sense required to play a game like Morrowind. It's no wonder why we can't have worthwhile and fulfilling games these days - where you are given a second to think for yourself. The game market is full of guys like you.

:lol:

Win

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#171 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?

how can you? After all those posts you guys havent posted not one legittimate reason why morrowind is better than oblivion, unlikely i have posted reasons that actually DO matter according to gaming reviewing sites....

People have already posted why Morrowind is better than Oblivion thousands of times. None of these reasons are going to matter to you because you're not even capable of bringing up the map and thinking "Oh, Northwest, that's probably towards the top left of my location on the map". You lack the patience, the understanding, and the common sense required to play a game like Morrowind. It's no wonder why we can't have worthwhile and fulfilling games these days - where you are given a second to think for yourself. The game market is full of guys like you.

yes people like me have made oblivion what it is....and the reviews agree with us.
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#172 Daggerfallfan
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[QUOTE="Meejoe27"]

So clearly the general population agrees Morrowind > Oblivion.

dakan45
the general population agrees on oblivion>morrowind because there are more casual gamers than hardcore and oldschool rpgs players

Honestly, give Morrowind another go and be patient and try to look for the positive. I know someone who, while they aren't a huge Morrowind fan, when they actually try it they begin to enjoy it more. You can even come on the forums and ask for help. I think there was someone on the official forums who was very pro-Oblivion and Anti-Morrowind and when they tried it (again or for the first time) they really enjoyed it. You just have to put forward a little effort.
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#173 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Meejoe27"]

So clearly the general population agrees Morrowind > Oblivion.

Daggerfallfan
the general population agrees on oblivion>morrowind because there are more casual gamers than hardcore and oldschool rpgs players

Honestly, give Morrowind another go and be patient and try to look for the positive. I know someone who, while they aren't a huge Morrowind fan, when they actually try it they begin to enjoy it more. You can even come on the forums and ask for help. I think there was someone on the official forums who was very pro-Oblivion and Anti-Morrowind and when they tried it (again or for the first time) they really enjoyed it. You just have to put forward a little effort.

why you telling me to give it another go and why dont you give oblivion another go instead of rating it with 2.0 and oblivion with 10? simply you have no logic or being able to reccomend you just say go play it its better belive me...what, can you see i rated oblivon with a 2.0 and morowind with 10? Cant you see that oblivon is rated 9.5 and morrowind 8.5 or something? in any case how did bethesda manage to turn 2 games completly diffirent remains a mystery.... maybe because they dumb down their games for the general public which equals better games since they are more accesable.
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#174 Daggerfallfan
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="dakan45"] the general population agrees on oblivion>morrowind because there are more casual gamers than hardcore and oldschool rpgs players

Honestly, give Morrowind another go and be patient and try to look for the positive. I know someone who, while they aren't a huge Morrowind fan, when they actually try it they begin to enjoy it more. You can even come on the forums and ask for help. I think there was someone on the official forums who was very pro-Oblivion and Anti-Morrowind and when they tried it (again or for the first time) they really enjoyed it. You just have to put forward a little effort.

why you telling me to give it another go and why dont you give oblivion another go instead of rating it with 2.0 and oblivion with 10? simply you have no logic or being able to reccomend you just say go play it its better belive me...what, can you see i rated oblivon with a 2.0 and morowind with 10? Cant you see that oblivon is rated 9.5 and morrowind 8.5 or something? in any case how did bethesda manage to turn 2 games completly diffirent remains a mystery.... maybe because they dumb down their games for the general public which equals better games since they are more accesable.

Oblivion has a two because it's marketed as an RPG but I might play it again and change the rating. Actually, I'm going to do that now. Well, change the rating that is.
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[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"][QUOTE="dakan45"] the general population agrees on oblivion>morrowind because there are more casual gamers than hardcore and oldschool rpgs playersdakan45
Honestly, give Morrowind another go and be patient and try to look for the positive. I know someone who, while they aren't a huge Morrowind fan, when they actually try it they begin to enjoy it more. You can even come on the forums and ask for help. I think there was someone on the official forums who was very pro-Oblivion and Anti-Morrowind and when they tried it (again or for the first time) they really enjoyed it. You just have to put forward a little effort.

why you telling me to give it another go and why dont you give oblivion another go instead of rating it with 2.0 and oblivion with 10? simply you have no logic or being able to reccomend you just say go play it its better belive me...what, can you see i rated oblivon with a 2.0 and morowind with 10? Cant you see that oblivon is rated 9.5 and morrowind 8.5 or something? in any case how did bethesda manage to turn 2 games completly diffirent remains a mystery.... maybe because they dumb down their games for the general public which equals better games since they are more accesable.

I've spent 80+ hours on both games.

I can honestly say that

Morrowind >>> Oblivion

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I've spent tons of time on Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion. I just had a problem with Oblivion due to the quest compass, level scaling, and lack of choices as well as removing things. Otherwise, it's pretty good.
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#177 Cicatraz_ESP
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Oblivion is a better game than morrowind, hands down for me.

Morrowind bored me too tears, Oblivion kept me captivated for hours on end.

And I really hated in Morrowind how you could only run for so long without getting winded. I mean, come on, gimme a break I just want to play the damn game.

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in any case how did bethesda manage to turn 2 games completly diffirent remains a mystery.... maybe because they dumb down their games for the general publicwhich equals better games since they are more accesable.dakan45

Seriously i remember old masterpieces like half life deus ex, system shock 2...and more and i look to games nowadays and i find most of them pretty borring or crappy and uninspired, and every year the crapinness gets worse, right now i have many games at my desktop but every time i click one, i can play for an hour or two then i stop and i get bored quite easilly then i try an older game like half life 2 and i played this game for 5 hours.... why new games cant be like that?

I am not talking only for AAA but games in general most of them are deathborring.... but thats not my point, my point is that games get worse every year, the games dont feel only borring but inferior in everything, story, gameplay, sound, levels, length replayability... they just dont have that charm and just when i thought, maybe its just be and i got bored playing games, but then i complete half life for 8th time and far cry for 6th..and i wonder why that doesnt happen with crysis and fear 2? or why i completed kotor 3 times and i barrelly managed to complete mass effect without commiting suicide by boredom :lol:.

Another example will be san andreas and gta iv, forget the problems it has, apart from that it has less vehicles, smaller maps, less missions and far more worse and borring freeplay, most missions feel borring and it even has worse characters...every year games get worse for me, like some one is lowering the standards in game development every year, like they bombard game developers with boredom rays and beams than produce uninspired games.

Just like yantzee says if you have to play 10000 crap to find 1 or 2 good games.... in any case am i the only one who thinks that games get worse every year?

dakan45

Dakan, please explain: first you say "games get worse every year" and now it's "Oblivion > Morrowind"?

I am so confused! :cry:

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#179 KHAndAnime
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Dakan, ratings aren't everything. Each reviewer is given a limited amount of time to put out their review for a game. Most reviewers breezed through Oblivion without even realizing the game's flaws or drawbacks. The game's appeal is short term unless you're really pushing for extra life from the game. Bethesda flat out lied about the game's features and really pampered reviewers for the game's score. It was later discovered that many things that Bethesda claimed the game had never even made it into the final game. Radiant AI for example. Most people here agree that Morrowind beats Oblivion. Shouldn't that be enough for you?

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[QUOTE="dakan45"] in any case how did bethesda manage to turn 2 games completly diffirent remains a mystery.... maybe because they dumb down their games for the general publicwhich equals better games since they are more accesable.JackBurton

Seriously i remember old masterpieces like half life deus ex, system shock 2...and more and i look to games nowadays and i find most of them pretty borring or crappy and uninspired, and every year the crapinness gets worse, right now i have many games at my desktop but every time i click one, i can play for an hour or two then i stop and i get bored quite easilly then i try an older game like half life 2 and i played this game for 5 hours.... why new games cant be like that?

I am not talking only for AAA but games in general most of them are deathborring.... but thats not my point, my point is that games get worse every year, the games dont feel only borring but inferior in everything, story, gameplay, sound, levels, length replayability... they just dont have that charm and just when i thought, maybe its just be and i got bored playing games, but then i complete half life for 8th time and far cry for 6th..and i wonder why that doesnt happen with crysis and fear 2? or why i completed kotor 3 times and i barrelly managed to complete mass effect without commiting suicide by boredom :lol:.

Another example will be san andreas and gta iv, forget the problems it has, apart from that it has less vehicles, smaller maps, less missions and far more worse and borring freeplay, most missions feel borring and it even has worse characters...every year games get worse for me, like some one is lowering the standards in game development every year, like they bombard game developers with boredom rays and beams than produce uninspired games.

Just like yantzee says if you have to play 10000 crap to find 1 or 2 good games.... in any case am i the only one who thinks that games get worse every year?

dakan45

Dakan, please explain: first you say "games get worse every year" and now it's "Oblivion > Morrowind"?

I am so confused! :cry:



Jack's words are law!

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The replies say a lot. The ones who prefer Oblivion either went "OBLIVION" or "OBLIVION, BETTER GRAPHICS, BETTER GAMEPLAY, THERE IS ACTUALLY VOICED DIALOGUE" etc etc. While the Morrowind fans spoke of Morrowinds soul, depth, and just the immersiveness of playing it.

Morrowind is by far the better game, but if you have played Oblivion it might be hard to get into Morrowind. I started with Oblivoin, and when I played Morrowind, I knew this game was better. But I couldn't get into it. The graphics can be fixed, but the game is still dated. Comparing them from their time though, Morrowind wins, hands down.

If I can chose a full paragraph explaining how this simple farmer desperately needs help, as his only berloved daughter has been kidnapped by goblins and that he promises anything, as long as he gets his daughter back, or chose "Rats are dying in my basement, help!"...

I'll go for the first one.

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The second one is in morrowind too... Nice Try
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#182 Daggerfallfan
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[QUOTE="Vfanek"]

The replies say a lot. The ones who prefer Oblivion either went "OBLIVION" or "OBLIVION, BETTER GRAPHICS, BETTER GAMEPLAY, THERE IS ACTUALLY VOICED DIALOGUE" etc etc. While the Morrowind fans spoke of Morrowinds soul, depth, and just the immersiveness of playing it.

Morrowind is by far the better game, but if you have played Oblivion it might be hard to get into Morrowind. I started with Oblivoin, and when I played Morrowind, I knew this game was better. But I couldn't get into it. The graphics can be fixed, but the game is still dated. Comparing them from their time though, Morrowind wins, hands down.

If I can chose a full paragraph explaining how this simple farmer desperately needs help, as his only berloved daughter has been kidnapped by goblins and that he promises anything, as long as he gets his daughter back, or chose "Rats are dying in my basement, help!"...

I'll go for the first one.

Frenzyd109

The second one is in morrowind too... Nice Try

Nice catch, while some Oblivion fans actually do play Morrowind with an open mind and most often they play for say, 5 minutes to an hour and/or don't have an open mind about it (Some Morrowind fans came from Oblivion and the others have definatley played Oblivion for several hours). Honestly, if someone can't play a game for more then 5 minutes (Unless it's something they aren't supposed to play or something like that) or actually give the game a real chance then I couldn't care less for their review to be honest. It's the people who have actually played the game that I would listen to when reading a review. I just don't get why Oblivion fans can't (or seemingly can't) admit that Morrowind got some things right and actually play the game with an open mind. For example, Oblivion did have the right idea with the physics system and radiant AI, they were just poorly done. The MQ (As horrible as it is) could also have been designed to set up another, better main quest like the one from Daggerfall if they went to Skyrim or some of the other provinces.

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#183 Sonir77
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didnt really like either of them

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#184 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"] Honestly, give Morrowind another go and be patient and try to look for the positive. I know someone who, while they aren't a huge Morrowind fan, when they actually try it they begin to enjoy it more. You can even come on the forums and ask for help. I think there was someone on the official forums who was very pro-Oblivion and Anti-Morrowind and when they tried it (again or for the first time) they really enjoyed it. You just have to put forward a little effort.swazidoughman

why you telling me to give it another go and why dont you give oblivion another go instead of rating it with 2.0 and oblivion with 10? simply you have no logic or being able to reccomend you just say go play it its better belive me...what, can you see i rated oblivon with a 2.0 and morowind with 10? Cant you see that oblivon is rated 9.5 and morrowind 8.5 or something? in any case how did bethesda manage to turn 2 games completly diffirent remains a mystery.... maybe because they dumb down their games for the general public which equals better games since they are more accesable.

I've spent 80+ hours on both games.

I can honestly say that

Morrowind >>> Oblivion

123 hours in oblivion, 25 boring hours in morrowind.
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[QUOTE="dakan45"] in any case how did bethesda manage to turn 2 games completly diffirent remains a mystery.... maybe because they dumb down their games for the general publicwhich equals better games since they are more accesable.JackBurton

Seriously i remember old masterpieces like half life deus ex, system shock 2...and more and i look to games nowadays and i find most of them pretty borring or crappy and uninspired, and every year the crapinness gets worse, right now i have many games at my desktop but every time i click one, i can play for an hour or two then i stop and i get bored quite easilly then i try an older game like half life 2 and i played this game for 5 hours.... why new games cant be like that?

I am not talking only for AAA but games in general most of them are deathborring.... but thats not my point, my point is that games get worse every year, the games dont feel only borring but inferior in everything, story, gameplay, sound, levels, length replayability... they just dont have that charm and just when i thought, maybe its just be and i got bored playing games, but then i complete half life for 8th time and far cry for 6th..and i wonder why that doesnt happen with crysis and fear 2? or why i completed kotor 3 times and i barrelly managed to complete mass effect without commiting suicide by boredom :lol:.

Another example will be san andreas and gta iv, forget the problems it has, apart from that it has less vehicles, smaller maps, less missions and far more worse and borring freeplay, most missions feel borring and it even has worse characters...every year games get worse for me, like some one is lowering the standards in game development every year, like they bombard game developers with boredom rays and beams than produce uninspired games.

Just like yantzee says if you have to play 10000 crap to find 1 or 2 good games.... in any case am i the only one who thinks that games get worse every year?

dakan45

Dakan, please explain: first you say "games get worse every year" and now it's "Oblivion > Morrowind"?

I am so confused! :cry:

Hey there can be an exception, never heard of people say fallout 3 is better than oblivion? In any case games get more borring every year like : kotor > mass effect morrowins and gothic 3 were deathborring... oblivion wasnt borring.
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#186 Daggerfallfan
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I'm going to try this one more time. How about we play the other games and look for positives and lets also start mentioning positives of the game we don't like as much.

I will start, Oblivion had the right idea with the Physics and AI system and a lot of the Misc quests were creative, now how about someone else goes.

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#187 dakan45
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I'm going to try this one more time. How about we play the other games and look for positives and lets also start mentioning positives of the game we don't like as much.

I will start, Oblivion had the right idea with the Physics and AI system and a lot of the Misc quests were creative, now how about someone else goes.

Daggerfallfan
morrowind had ana amazing world eg creatures and mythology.. or the armors were unique...
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#188 Daggerfallfan
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[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"]

I'm going to try this one more time. How about we play the other games and look for positives and lets also start mentioning positives of the game we don't like as much.

I will start, Oblivion had the right idea with the Physics and AI system and a lot of the Misc quests were creative, now how about someone else goes.

dakan45

morrowind had ana amazing world eg creatures and mythology.. or the armors were unique...

I agree, I really do think that Oblivion is a great game. I gave it a low rating since Bethesda marketed it as an RPG and not an Action Game. In fact, it might have been the best action game if they marketed it as that instead of a RPG and TES IV. Then the major complaints would be about lore instead of dumbing the series down. It would basically be a win-win. You should try Morrowind once more though and I do plan to try Oblivion once more and change my review of Oblivion if I feel I was too hard on it. I actually forgot to say some of the positives that I wanted too.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"]

I'm going to try this one more time. How about we play the other games and look for positives and lets also start mentioning positives of the game we don't like as much.

I will start, Oblivion had the right idea with the Physics and AI system and a lot of the Misc quests were creative, now how about someone else goes.

Daggerfallfan

morrowind had ana amazing world eg creatures and mythology.. or the armors were unique...

I agree, I really do think that Oblivion is a great game. I gave it a low rating since Bethesda marketed it as an RPG and not an Action Game. In fact, it might have been the best action game if they marketed it as that instead of a RPG and TES IV. Then the major complaints would be about lore instead of dumbing the series down. It would basically be a win-win. You should try Morrowind once more though and I do plan to try Oblivion once more and change my review of Oblivion if I feel I was too hard on it. I actually forgot to say some of the positives that I wanted too.

Well if they atleast give me a freaking compass... i really cant find the areas and no critical nps voice acting .atleast in fallout 2 they didhave voice acting... well its not for me i want the story to be told not read it.. But in any case still if i have a walktrough with pictures on where should i go i still dont think id play it for 2 reasons: I lack time and this game needs lot of time to level up so you can play the quests and i cant take the extreme long time it takes to travel.... In oblivion i like the classic generic medieval style and the actual block in the game plus the slashing sounds. Yeah i did like the voice acting, the voices were unique, eg in kotor or mass effect they dont sound like anything out of ordinary voice acting....also i liked the balance feature, i can make it easier or harder if i wanted to, i also liked the user mods and the map which was amazing and with so many towns to visit in your very first time. As for actual leveling up....well you need more monsters to do that, i think fallout 3 does that somehwat ok.. i also played games like hellgate london for that reason... (for leveling up) any other rpgs that focus on level up? Eg diablo is totally level up, thats not what i mean... i mean games that are not balanced like oblivion and do have lots of monsters to level up and actually be tougher.. Eg kotor and gothic are not games that you can go out there and kill as many mosnters you want and then do it again tommorow so you can level up as much you want.
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#190 Daggerfallfan
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[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] morrowind had ana amazing world eg creatures and mythology.. or the armors were unique...dakan45

I agree, I really do think that Oblivion is a great game. I gave it a low rating since Bethesda marketed it as an RPG and not an Action Game. In fact, it might have been the best action game if they marketed it as that instead of a RPG and TES IV. Then the major complaints would be about lore instead of dumbing the series down. It would basically be a win-win. You should try Morrowind once more though and I do plan to try Oblivion once more and change my review of Oblivion if I feel I was too hard on it. I actually forgot to say some of the positives that I wanted too.

Well if they atleast give me a freaking compass... i really cant find the areas and no critical nps voice acting .atleast in fallout 2 they didhave voice acting... well its not for me i want the story to be told not read it.. But in any case still if i have a walktrough with pictures on where should i go i still dont think id play it for 2 reasons: I lack time and this game needs lot of time to level up so you can play the quests and i cant take the extreme long time it takes to travel.... In oblivion i like the classic generic medieval style and the actual block in the game plus the slashing sounds. Yeah i did like the voice acting, the voices were unique, eg in kotor or mass effect they dont sound like anything out of ordinary voice acting....also i liked the balance feature, i can make it easier or harder if i wanted to, i also liked the user mods and the map which was amazing and with so many towns to visit in your very first time. As for actual leveling up....well you need more monsters to do that, i think fallout 3 does that somehwat ok.. i also played games like hellgate london for that reason... (for leveling up) any other rpgs that focus on level up? Eg diablo is totally level up, thats not what i mean... i mean games that are not balanced like oblivion and do have lots of monsters to level up and actually be tougher.. Eg kotor and gothic are not games that you can go out there and kill as many mosnters you want and then do it again tommorow so you can level up as much you want.

At a high level your basically invincible, in fact, you could go on UESP and find all the great equipment to kill everything in a few hits and power level, just don't say the game it too easy if you do that. Also, UESP is a great place to find things. Honestly, they almost always give you good directions and I do think there are mods that add voice acting and the quest compass (Definatley one for this if you must have it, if you got those would you consider trying it once more? Could you stop going on and on about how it stinks since you really haven't played it all that much or with an open mind as well as being unwilling to try it again at the very least?

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#191 Delphanius
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I have to say Morrowind.I don't know maybe I'm just nostalgic!

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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"]

I agree, I really do think that Oblivion is a great game. I gave it a low rating since Bethesda marketed it as an RPG and not an Action Game. In fact, it might have been the best action game if they marketed it as that instead of a RPG and TES IV. Then the major complaints would be about lore instead of dumbing the series down. It would basically be a win-win. You should try Morrowind once more though and I do plan to try Oblivion once more and change my review of Oblivion if I feel I was too hard on it. I actually forgot to say some of the positives that I wanted too.

Daggerfallfan

Well if they atleast give me a freaking compass... i really cant find the areas and no critical nps voice acting .atleast in fallout 2 they didhave voice acting... well its not for me i want the story to be told not read it.. But in any case still if i have a walktrough with pictures on where should i go i still dont think id play it for 2 reasons: I lack time and this game needs lot of time to level up so you can play the quests and i cant take the extreme long time it takes to travel.... In oblivion i like the classic generic medieval style and the actual block in the game plus the slashing sounds. Yeah i did like the voice acting, the voices were unique, eg in kotor or mass effect they dont sound like anything out of ordinary voice acting....also i liked the balance feature, i can make it easier or harder if i wanted to, i also liked the user mods and the map which was amazing and with so many towns to visit in your very first time. As for actual leveling up....well you need more monsters to do that, i think fallout 3 does that somehwat ok.. i also played games like hellgate london for that reason... (for leveling up) any other rpgs that focus on level up? Eg diablo is totally level up, thats not what i mean... i mean games that are not balanced like oblivion and do have lots of monsters to level up and actually be tougher.. Eg kotor and gothic are not games that you can go out there and kill as many mosnters you want and then do it again tommorow so you can level up as much you want.

At a high level your basically invincible, in fact, you could go on UESP and find all the great equipment to kill everything in a few hits and power level, just don't say the game it too easy if you do that. Also, UESP is a great place to find things. Honestly, they almost always give you good directions and I do think there are mods that add voice acting and the quest compass (Definatley one for this if you must have it, if you got those would you consider trying it once more? Could you stop going on and on about how it stinks since you really haven't played it all that much or with an open mind as well as being unwilling to try it again at the very least?

First lets make something clear, i didnt said its stinks.. its one of the most hardcore rpgs ever made, and its fair, unlike gothic series that monsters dont respawn... but i find the lack of fetures disturbing like atleast a compass and a quest list, things that were added in tribunal. My problem is that it focuses to much on leveling up and travelling slowly and progressing slowly....time is something i lack latelly. My other problem is that i like voice acting and interesting dialogues not wikepidia "click here" dialogues that spawn many a text of info instead of making a conversation with the npcs....those things kinda kill immersion for me and i really liked oblivion because bethesad really tried to make it immersive and very polished. Basicly i found the game mostly very slow at combat, very slow at travelling and very slow into main quest progress. If you add that with the fact that it lacks in sound which i find really immersive in games... or things like cutscenes and some voice acting in critical npcs dialogues or some epic videos... Well soon enough it turned pretty borring and i decided to drop it sicne it was mostly travel, kill find quest, read dialogues and find the quest location. I couldnt find any epicness alond the way like closing the kvatch oblivion gate in oblivion. so morrowind in terms of story it was slow as hell so far and i was like come on? Where is the epic story? Or a npc to immerse me like fallout 2?
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[QUOTE="dakan45"] Sorry but saying "there is nothing wrong with that" is like saying there is nothing wrong with any actual flow in game, sorry but it is wrong, not having a map indicator and saying go SW and NW when YOU DONT HAVE A COMPASS IN THE FIRST PLACE !!!!! Its wrong like the half of the game designers couldnt agree with the other half, the game doest everything to be confusive. Atleast add some NW SW typed down at the edge of the map....but no,not even that can is allowed in the game because there is nothing wrong with that...on second thought why gta games got mission indicators? It will be so much better without them....NOT. I am done with you there no need to discuss anything if you say "there is nothing wrong with everything"

NW is the top left of the map of course.... did you never learn where the 4 points of a compass were in school?
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[QUOTE="Daggerfallfan"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Well if they atleast give me a freaking compass... i really cant find the areas and no critical nps voice acting .atleast in fallout 2 they didhave voice acting... well its not for me i want the story to be told not read it.. But in any case still if i have a walktrough with pictures on where should i go i still dont think id play it for 2 reasons: I lack time and this game needs lot of time to level up so you can play the quests and i cant take the extreme long time it takes to travel.... In oblivion i like the classic generic medieval style and the actual block in the game plus the slashing sounds. Yeah i did like the voice acting, the voices were unique, eg in kotor or mass effect they dont sound like anything out of ordinary voice acting....also i liked the balance feature, i can make it easier or harder if i wanted to, i also liked the user mods and the map which was amazing and with so many towns to visit in your very first time. As for actual leveling up....well you need more monsters to do that, i think fallout 3 does that somehwat ok.. i also played games like hellgate london for that reason... (for leveling up) any other rpgs that focus on level up? Eg diablo is totally level up, thats not what i mean... i mean games that are not balanced like oblivion and do have lots of monsters to level up and actually be tougher.. Eg kotor and gothic are not games that you can go out there and kill as many mosnters you want and then do it again tommorow so you can level up as much you want.dakan45

At a high level your basically invincible, in fact, you could go on UESP and find all the great equipment to kill everything in a few hits and power level, just don't say the game it too easy if you do that. Also, UESP is a great place to find things. Honestly, they almost always give you good directions and I do think there are mods that add voice acting and the quest compass (Definatley one for this if you must have it, if you got those would you consider trying it once more? Could you stop going on and on about how it stinks since you really haven't played it all that much or with an open mind as well as being unwilling to try it again at the very least?

First lets make something clear, i didnt said its stinks.. its one of the most hardcore rpgs ever made, and its fair, unlike gothic series that monsters dont respawn... but i find the lack of fetures disturbing like atleast a compass and a quest list, things that were added in tribunal. My problem is that it focuses to much on leveling up and travelling slowly and progressing slowly....time is something i lack latelly. My other problem is that i like voice acting and interesting dialogues not wikepidia "click here" dialogues that spawn many a text of info instead of making a conversation with the npcs....those things kinda kill immersion for me and i really liked oblivion because bethesad really tried to make it immersive and very polished. Basicly i found the game mostly very slow at combat, very slow at travelling and very slow into main quest progress. If you add that with the fact that it lacks in sound which i find really immersive in games... or things like cutscenes and some voice acting in critical npcs dialogues or some epic videos... Well soon enough it turned pretty borring and i decided to drop it sicne it was mostly travel, kill find quest, read dialogues and find the quest location. I couldnt find any epicness alond the way like closing the kvatch oblivion gate in oblivion. so morrowind in terms of story it was slow as hell so far and i was like come on? Where is the epic story? Or a npc to immerse me like fallout 2?

You haven't played much Morrowind then and that's the truth. It's sort of slow at first but REALLY picks up as you go along. Sure it might be a bit dated but you have to be patient and I still think you should try Daggerfall. The thing is that you just won't give it the chance it needs. Once you start to level up the game gets really good. Also, do you have Tribunal and Bloodmoon? If you don't you sohuld get them but yes, the journal system did need some work but no, the quest compass isn't a standard RPG thing. There are mods that add fast travel and a quest compass. Here are the links.

Fast Travel

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=4898

Quest Compass

There must be one couldn't find it though.

Combat

No mods needed. Ok, here is what you do. First, hit this key (~) then click on your character, type in

Set(Skillname) 100

Do this for every skill. Now you will never or almost never miss.

Horses

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=2493


Voice Acting (I like this too but it shouldn't make us lose dialogue options and topics)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=2895 (Voice acting for player)

Voice Addon for Vivec (Morrowind version)

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=3064

Voice Addon for Vivec (Tribunal version)

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=2999

Voice Addon for Almalexia (Tribunal Required)

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=3005

Voice Addon for Dagoth Ur

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=2997

Voice Addon for Balizar (Tribunal Required)

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=223

Voice Addon for Dagoth Gares

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=1670

That is some voice acting at least.

Search for some mods on your own to, you will come across them eventually but the fast travel and horses should be a start and I gave you a cheat to help with combat. You can find mods that fix almost any complaint or make your own with the construction set.

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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] why you telling me to give it another go and why dont you give oblivion another go instead of rating it with 2.0 and oblivion with 10? simply you have no logic or being able to reccomend you just say go play it its better belive me...what, can you see i rated oblivon with a 2.0 and morowind with 10? Cant you see that oblivon is rated 9.5 and morrowind 8.5 or something? in any case how did bethesda manage to turn 2 games completly diffirent remains a mystery.... maybe because they dumb down their games for the general public which equals better games since they are more accesable.dakan45

I've spent 80+ hours on both games.

I can honestly say that

Morrowind >>> Oblivion

123 hours in oblivion, 25 boring hours in morrowind.

I played at least 200+ hours in Oblivion. and at least 300+ in Morrowind.

Morrowind is better for those who invest in it properly. Investing more and more time into oblivion really just reveals its flaws and limitations more and more.

Oblivion is pretty, and its got voice acting, but to those who value the depth of a game it just falls short of its potential. If Oblivion had everything that morrowind did AND those pretty graphics, then it would obviously be the better game. But i don't think the pretty factor, or the audio nearly outweighs the depth of morrowind.

And to clear up any confusion, i LOVED Oblivion and i played it to death, just not quite as much as Morrowind due to less depth. I went through the entire Main Quest, ALL factions with at least four different characters. My favorite character was where i intentionally didn't level, that way i avoided the TERRIBLE enemy scaling garbage which prevents Oblivion from being better than Morrowind by itself. I had to get to level 5 just to finish the game, but by avoiding leveling you feel like your playing a better game. Enemy scaling is the biggest mistake that any game developer in the history of gaming has ever made, and to me it ruined oblivions true potential.

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#196 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

I've spent 80+ hours on both games.

I can honestly say that

Morrowind >>> Oblivion

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123 hours in oblivion, 25 boring hours in morrowind.

I played at least 200+ hours in Oblivion. and at least 300+ in Morrowind.

Morrowind is better for those who invest in it properly. Investing more and more time into oblivion really just reveals its flaws and limitations more and more.

Oblivion is pretty, and its got voice acting, but to those who value the depth of a game it just falls short of its potential. If Oblivion had everything that morrowind did AND those pretty graphics, then it would obviously be the better game. But i don't think the pretty factor, or the audio nearly outweighs the depth of morrowind.

And to clear up any confusion, i LOVED Oblivion and i played it to death, just not quite as much as Morrowind due to less depth. I went through the entire Main Quest, ALL factions with at least four different characters. My favorite character was where i intentionally didn't level, that way i avoided the TERRIBLE enemy scaling garbage which prevents Oblivion from being better than Morrowind by itself. I had to get to level 5 just to finish the game, but by avoiding leveling you feel like your playing a better game. Enemy scaling is the biggest mistake that any game developer in the history of gaming has ever made, and to me it ruined oblivions true potential.

yeah i agree, oblivion's leveling system was a test in gaming..... What killed my morrowid experience was that it was borring, eg: that it didnt do stuff like voice acting or somce epic parts like meeting the emperor or the cloud ruler temples and closing the kvatch gate..also the slow gameplay and the slow travelling plus the lack of more accurate way to find the quest location...didnt really help to make the game less borring. But yes if you invest time in it its an amazing rpg... however it really bore me and i saw no reason to keep playing since nothing really grabbed me in as far as got in the game... it was mostly slow, slow ,slow progress which aint my cup of tea.
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[QUOTE="Meejoe27"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] 123 hours in oblivion, 25 boring hours in morrowind.dakan45

I played at least 200+ hours in Oblivion. and at least 300+ in Morrowind.

Morrowind is better for those who invest in it properly. Investing more and more time into oblivion really just reveals its flaws and limitations more and more.

Oblivion is pretty, and its got voice acting, but to those who value the depth of a game it just falls short of its potential. If Oblivion had everything that morrowind did AND those pretty graphics, then it would obviously be the better game. But i don't think the pretty factor, or the audio nearly outweighs the depth of morrowind.

And to clear up any confusion, i LOVED Oblivion and i played it to death, just not quite as much as Morrowind due to less depth. I went through the entire Main Quest, ALL factions with at least four different characters. My favorite character was where i intentionally didn't level, that way i avoided the TERRIBLE enemy scaling garbage which prevents Oblivion from being better than Morrowind by itself. I had to get to level 5 just to finish the game, but by avoiding leveling you feel like your playing a better game. Enemy scaling is the biggest mistake that any game developer in the history of gaming has ever made, and to me it ruined oblivions true potential.

yeah i agree, oblivion's leveling system was a test in gaming..... What killed my morrowid experience was that it was borring, eg: that it didnt do stuff like voice acting or somce epic parts like meeting the emperor or the cloud ruler temples and closing the kvatch gate..also the slow gameplay and the slow travelling plus the lack of more accurate way to find the quest location...didnt really help to make the game less borring. But yes if you invest time in it its an amazing rpg... however it really bore me and i saw no reason to keep playing since nothing really grabbed me in as far as got in the game... it was mostly slow, slow ,slow progress which aint my cup of tea.

I gave links to mods that fix some of the problems but Morrowind does get epic, you just aren't being patient with the game.

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Ohh and providing i have fast travel, quest compass or atleast a normal compass and horses and atleast voice acting in the critical parts of the game i wil replay morrowing. most importantly 1)horses or fast travel 2)compass or quest marked 3) a little help on what should i do or voice acting in important dialogues
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Ohh and providing i have fast travel, quest compass or atleast a normal compass and horses and atleast voice acting in the critical parts of the game i wil replay morrowing. most importantly 1)horses or fast travel 2)compass or quest marked 3) a little help on what should i do or voice acting in important dialoguesdakan45

The fast travel I provided.

Quest Compass shouldn't be a problem with the fast travel since most dungeons aren't insanley huge in base Morrowind. If the fast travel works like Oblivion people can search for a quest compass mod and those voice acting mods add full voice acting for characters, we don't have one for every NPC but you could request that someone make one or make your own. The compass is in the game. Right click and look at your map, Norht is the top of the map, south is the bottom of the map, east is the right side of the map and west is the left side. I couldn't find a quest marker one though, you might want to search for that on your own or see how the fast travel one works.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"]Ohh and providing i have fast travel, quest compass or atleast a normal compass and horses and atleast voice acting in the critical parts of the game i wil replay morrowing. most importantly 1)horses or fast travel 2)compass or quest marked 3) a little help on what should i do or voice acting in important dialoguesDaggerfallfan

The fast travel I provided.

Quest Compass shouldn't be a problem with the fast travel since most dungeons aren't insanley huge in base Morrowind. If the fast travel works like Oblivion people can search for a quest compass mod and those voice acting mods add full voice acting for characters, we don't have one for every NPC but you could request that someone make one or make your own. The compass is in the game. Right click and look at your map, Norht is the top of the map, south is the bottom of the map, east is the right side of the map and west is the left side. I couldn't find a quest marker one though, you might want to search for that on your own or see how the fast travel one works.

duh there is a compass? well its not that accurate but i belive i can either open the map with ms paint and add the cordinates around the map or use an interactive morrowid map that i can find the locations provided i know the quest location.