The game is boring... its a waste of time.... just play modern warfare for pete's shake
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No, Quake 3 arena is :)Perhaps it's because Counter-Strike is the greatest MP FPS ever created.
JackBurton
The game is boring... its a waste of time.... just play modern warfare for pete's shake
rjcadet7
its a waste of time.... just play modern warfare
rjcadet7
just play modern warfare
rjcadet7
You best be trollin'.
[QUOTE="JackBurton"]No, Quake 3 arena is :) No, Battlefield 1942 is =)Perhaps it's because Counter-Strike is the greatest MP FPS ever created.
JigglyWiggly_
[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="JackBurton"]No, Quake 3 arena is :) No, Battlefield 1942 is =) Well depends on the mood you are in, if you are sleepy, your brain will explode(on quake3), however on a Battlefield game you can do fine :PPerhaps it's because Counter-Strike is the greatest MP FPS ever created.
Swiftstrike5
[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] No, Quake 3 arena is :)JigglyWiggly_No, Battlefield 1942 is =) Well depends on the mood you are in, if you are sleepy, your brain will explode(on quake3), however on a Battlefield game you can do fine :P =P I think it's the opposite (not talking about Quake). Battlefield is always unpredictable. The game isn't balanced (although medics need to be nerfed, so that they fit their role in a squad) and it isn't really designed to be. If you get caught out in the open, looking at the end of a tank barrel then you deserve to die. Battlefield rewards someone who plans ahead or thinks quick on their feet. They might not be rewarded with kills, but they'll definitely survive to fight another day. CS:S and Quake just test the twitch factor of FPS gaming. Sure, there's some thinking involved, but not nearly as much when you have air support, tanks, and artillery threatening to blow your limbs off if you give away your position or try and cross an open field.
I think Modern Warfare is lame though. The maps were designed for console players, not PC. I think my major fuss is last stand, but also that grass isn't rendered for iron sights (and red dot), but is when you zoom a sniper rifle. I had the same issue with ARMA 2. They shouldn't show you cover that doesn't exist for the people shooting you.
People still plays Starcraft eleven and a half years (yup, 11 years and 6 months) after it came out, and it still annihilates most of the RTSs out now without even trying, and it's a 2D game with resolution fixed at 800x600. It's just THAT good (and SC2 is looking even better).
A very good game can't be topped by a decent game just because it appeals more to noobs.
You saying it's boring means you don't understand how the game is supposed to be played, even though the "just go play MW" part makes me think it's more probable you're just trolling...
Well depends on the mood you are in, if you are sleepy, your brain will explode(on quake3), however on a Battlefield game you can do fine :P =P I think it's the opposite (not talking about Quake). Battlefield is always unpredictable. The game isn't balanced (although medics need to be nerfed, so that they fit their role in a squad) and it isn't really designed to be. If you get caught out in the open, looking at the end of a tank barrel then you deserve to die. Battlefield rewards someone who plans ahead or thinks quick on their feet. They might not be rewarded with kills, but they'll definitely survive to fight another day. CS:S and Quake just test the twitch factor of FPS gaming. Sure, there's some thinking involved, but not nearly as much when you have air support, tanks, and artillery threatening to blow your limbs off if you give away your position or try and cross an open field.[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"] No, Battlefield 1942 is =)Swiftstrike5
I think Modern Warfare is lame though. The maps were designed for console players, not PC. I think my major fuss is last stand, but also that grass isn't rendered for iron sights (and red dot), but is when you zoom a sniper rifle. I had the same issue with ARMA 2. They shouldn't show you cover that doesn't exist for the people shooting you.
You can relax as in you can ride an aircraft into teamates and lol. In Quake 3, ff is often not even on, and getting owned is not fun :(I dunno where you get 5 years from. its been around for 10 years.
And CS has had bigger numbers than Quake 3 and BF1942 combined for all time, that technically would make it more popular and better in most peoples eyes.
Also imo Quake Sucked, run and gun fast paced DM sucks, there are reasons why they don't make them anymore and when they do no one plays.
They don't suck, they just simply too skill-based for most people.I dunno where you get 5 years from. its been around for 10 years.
And CS has had bigger numbers than Quake 3 and BF1942 combined for all time, that technically would make it more popular and better in most peoples eyes.
Also imo Quake Sucked, run and gun fast paced DM sucks, there are reasons why they don't make them anymore and when they do no one plays.
Zemus
[QUOTE="Zemus"]They don't suck, they just simply too skill-based for most people.I dunno where you get 5 years from. its been around for 10 years.
And CS has had bigger numbers than Quake 3 and BF1942 combined for all time, that technically would make it more popular and better in most peoples eyes.
Also imo Quake Sucked, run and gun fast paced DM sucks, there are reasons why they don't make them anymore and when they do no one plays.
KHAndAnime
There is Skill, and there is just bad Design. Quake was horribly Designed. If that type of gameplay were popular they would still be making games under the same theme of gameplay.
They don't suck, they just simply too skill-based for most people.[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="Zemus"]
I dunno where you get 5 years from. its been around for 10 years.
And CS has had bigger numbers than Quake 3 and BF1942 combined for all time, that technically would make it more popular and better in most peoples eyes.
Also imo Quake Sucked, run and gun fast paced DM sucks, there are reasons why they don't make them anymore and when they do no one plays.
Zemus
There is Skill, and there is just bad Design. Quake was horribly Designed. If that type of gameplay were popular they would still be making games under the same theme of gameplay.
Popularity and quality don't necessarily mean the same thing.reason: simply put source engine customization.. literally you can do 110 things with source and still have millions more to sift through. its like saying why is half lfie 1 & 2 still on the top of steams best selling list.. engine of possibilities in there that can almost never end.
They don't suck, they just simply too skill-based for most people.[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="Zemus"]
I dunno where you get 5 years from. its been around for 10 years.
And CS has had bigger numbers than Quake 3 and BF1942 combined for all time, that technically would make it more popular and better in most peoples eyes.
Also imo Quake Sucked, run and gun fast paced DM sucks, there are reasons why they don't make them anymore and when they do no one plays.
Zemus
There is Skill, and there is just bad Design. Quake was horribly Designed. If that type of gameplay were popular they would still be making games under the same theme of gameplay.
WAT, Quake takes a tremendous amount of skill, because it is so fast paced, you need awesome skills to be able to predict where a rocket will launch and where it will hit the person.[QUOTE="Zemus"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] They don't suck, they just simply too skill-based for most people. JigglyWiggly_
There is Skill, and there is just bad Design. Quake was horribly Designed. If that type of gameplay were popular they would still be making games under the same theme of gameplay.
WAT, Quake takes a tremendous amount of skill, because it is so fast paced, you need awesome skills to be able to predict where a rocket will launch and where it will hit the person.quake is a no rules arena shooter
cs is a realistic (and therefor structured) arena shooter.
one has stuff in it that is otherwise impossible/makes no sense (such as jump pads, health powerups and comically sized guns. whereas the other has plausible weapons, laws of reality (such as gravity) lack of otherwise impossible stuff (such as power-ups and jump pads) and is therefore alot more easy to comprehend. its like saying which is better super mario bro.s 3 or super mario 64.. both feature the game kind of play but they have clearly defined features that set them apart. as for moder warfare.. this is how i put it.. games get a fanbase and CS has one.. deal with it.
WAT, Quake takes a tremendous amount of skill, because it is so fast paced, you need awesome skills to be able to predict where a rocket will launch and where it will hit the person.[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Zemus"]
There is Skill, and there is just bad Design. Quake was horribly Designed. If that type of gameplay were popular they would still be making games under the same theme of gameplay.
aura_enchanted
quake is a no rules arena shooter
cs is a realistic (and therefor structured) arena shooter.
one has stuff in it that is otherwise impossible/makes no sense (such as jump pads, health powerups and comically sized guns. whereas the other has plausible weapons, laws of reality (such as gravity) lack of otherwise impossible stuff (such as power-ups and jump pads) and is therefore alot more easy to comprehend. its like saying which is better super mario bro.s 3 or super mario 64.. both feature the game kind of play but they have clearly defined features that set them apart. as for moder warfare.. this is how i put it.. games get a fanbase and CS has one.. deal with it.
WAT CS? Realistic? I don't recall spamming bullets in real life and getting hs realistic. What does realism have to do with skill btw? Wana play Quakelive, I will make your minds explode. But if we do that, I will do it later, I must finish my damn custom class that extends linkedlist, damn you computers !Also Quake 3 does have rules, team arena, deathmatch, capture the flag, team death match. You shoot a rocket at yourself to higher, and then aim your rocket where the person will be in a few seconds and boom. (This takes skill)
Perhaps it's because Counter-Strike is the greatest MP FPS ever created.
JackBurton
this
oh, and its been out since late 1998. Ahhhh the good ol' days...remember when the M4 had a scope on it? Or in the early betas when you had to actually buy specific calibres of ammo for various guns?
So ya, CS is actually twice as old as the topic creator thought. Learn your gaming history, young one.
CoD4 is pretty crap in mp really... sooo easy... spawnfragfest, and cheap recoilless weapons... its pretty much a cs with trainingwheels. it looks and sounds awesome ^^ but gameplay is sorta "meh".
In fact I would rather compare CoD4 with Q3Arena, they have some more in common... and then Ill still pick q3 arena :s
CS is my preferred online fps game, with BF2 as a 2nd (BF2 still laughs at CoD4 and walks away)
CS often require teamwork to be successful, and you need to learn the inns and outs of each gun, and whoever sprays in this game pretty much admits defeat because he wont get far, unless he is standing right infront of someone :s
CoD4 is a sprayers gamee... it is too cramped, too random, and the weapons just have a wrong feel to them.
Apart from the sp part of the game, Ill pass on CoD: Modern warfare (and likely its sequal)
CoD4 is pretty crap in mp really... sooo easy... spawnfragfest, and cheap recoilless weapons... its pretty much a cs with trainingwheels. it looks and sounds awesome ^^ but gameplay is sorta "meh".
In fact I would rather compare CoD4 with Q3Arena, they have some more in common... and then Ill still pick q3 arena :s
CS is my preferred online fps game, with BF2 as a 2nd (BF2 still laughs at CoD4 and walks away)
CS often require teamwork to be successful, and you need to learn the inns and outs of each gun, and whoever sprays in this game pretty much admits defeat because he wont get far, unless he is standing right infront of someone :s
CoD4 is a sprayers gamee... it is too cramped, too random, and the weapons just have a wrong feel to them.
Apart from the sp part of the game, Ill pass on CoD: Modern warfare (and likely its sequal)
Maddie_Larkin
exactly
CS to me is the gamer's multiplayer shooter
CoD4 is a game everyone can get in on, with little difficulty, and it suffers as a result.
CoD4 is a kiddie pool, full of urine and shallow.
CS is an Olympic pool; deep, long, tough to master but far more rewarding
[QUOTE="JackBurton"]
Perhaps it's because Counter-Strike is the greatest MP FPS ever created.
mrbojangles25
this
oh, and its been out since late 1998. Ahhhh the good ol' days...remember when the M4 had a scope on it? Or in the early betas when you had to actually buy specific calibres of ammo for various guns?
So ya, CS is actually twice as old as the topic creator thought. Learn your gaming history, young one.
Oh scoped M4, how I miss thee.
[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]
CoD4 is pretty crap in mp really... sooo easy... spawnfragfest, and cheap recoilless weapons... its pretty much a cs with trainingwheels. it looks and sounds awesome ^^ but gameplay is sorta "meh".
In fact I would rather compare CoD4 with Q3Arena, they have some more in common... and then Ill still pick q3 arena :s
CS is my preferred online fps game, with BF2 as a 2nd (BF2 still laughs at CoD4 and walks away)
CS often require teamwork to be successful, and you need to learn the inns and outs of each gun, and whoever sprays in this game pretty much admits defeat because he wont get far, unless he is standing right infront of someone :s
CoD4 is a sprayers gamee... it is too cramped, too random, and the weapons just have a wrong feel to them.
Apart from the sp part of the game, Ill pass on CoD: Modern warfare (and likely its sequal)
mrbojangles25
exactly
CS to me is the gamer's multiplayer shooter
CoD4 is a game everyone can get in on, with little difficulty, and it suffers as a result.
CoD4 is a kiddie pool, full of urine and shallow.
CS is an Olympic pool; deep, long, tough to master but far more rewarding
Your eyes deceive you if you think its all easy on Cod4. Question, have you ever played a competitive clan match on Cod 4? Counter Strike does have a steeper learning curve due to the recoil being uncommon compared to traditional shooters, but you're not going to convince Cod 4 is that much easier of a game at high tier play. Both games are very rewarding when you are able to play at top tier, and joining servers to take advantage of lesser players.[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]
CoD4 is pretty crap in mp really... sooo easy... spawnfragfest, and cheap recoilless weapons... its pretty much a cs with trainingwheels. it looks and sounds awesome ^^ but gameplay is sorta "meh".
In fact I would rather compare CoD4 with Q3Arena, they have some more in common... and then Ill still pick q3 arena :s
CS is my preferred online fps game, with BF2 as a 2nd (BF2 still laughs at CoD4 and walks away)
CS often require teamwork to be successful, and you need to learn the inns and outs of each gun, and whoever sprays in this game pretty much admits defeat because he wont get far, unless he is standing right infront of someone :s
CoD4 is a sprayers gamee... it is too cramped, too random, and the weapons just have a wrong feel to them.
Apart from the sp part of the game, Ill pass on CoD: Modern warfare (and likely its sequal)
OoSuperMarioO
exactly
CS to me is the gamer's multiplayer shooter
CoD4 is a game everyone can get in on, with little difficulty, and it suffers as a result.
CoD4 is a kiddie pool, full of urine and shallow.
CS is an Olympic pool; deep, long, tough to master but far more rewarding
Your eyes deceive you if you think its all easy on Cod4. Question, have you ever played a competitive clan match on Cod 4? Counter Strike does have a steeper learning curve due to the recoil being uncommon compared to traditional shooters, but you're not going to convince Cod 4 is that much easier of a game at high tier play. Both games are very rewarding when you are able to play at top tier, and joining servers to take advantage of lesser players. Dude I am sorry but cod4 is easy. Even in "clan matches". Just not as hard as CS. CS is hard on NORMAL servers. I can only imagine what a Clan War is like on that game lol.They certainly do, and they're very brutal in difficulty.Because it's a good game! Just like StarCraft. It's considered a sport in Korea and tons of people still play it (including myself) and that was made in 1998! Pretty sure they have CS tournaments too.
Abigorus
[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Your eyes deceive you if you think its all easy on Cod4. Question, have you ever played a competitive clan match on Cod 4? Counter Strike does have a steeper learning curve due to the recoil being uncommon compared to traditional shooters, but you're not going to convince Cod 4 is that much easier of a game at high tier play. Both games are very rewarding when you are able to play at top tier, and joining servers to take advantage of lesser players. Dude I am sorry but cod4 is easy. Even in "clan matches". Just not as hard as CS. CS is hard on NORMAL servers. I can only imagine what a Clan War is like on that game lol.[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
exactly
CS to me is the gamer's multiplayer shooter
CoD4 is a game everyone can get in on, with little difficulty, and it suffers as a result.
CoD4 is a kiddie pool, full of urine and shallow.
CS is an Olympic pool; deep, long, tough to master but far more rewarding
blade55555
It should have harder players on normal servers, granted the game has been on the platform for many years. Many of the users that are bashing Cod4 difficulty are only feed backing from public servers where players are not utilizing rocket jumping, bouncing on terrain, no scope strafing, strafe jumping and then some.
[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Your eyes deceive you if you think its all easy on Cod4. Question, have you ever played a competitive clan match on Cod 4? Counter Strike does have a steeper learning curve due to the recoil being uncommon compared to traditional shooters, but you're not going to convince Cod 4 is that much easier of a game at high tier play. Both games are very rewarding when you are able to play at top tier, and joining servers to take advantage of lesser players. Dude I am sorry but cod4 is easy. Even in "clan matches". Just not as hard as CS. CS is hard on NORMAL servers. I can only imagine what a Clan War is like on that game lol.[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
exactly
CS to me is the gamer's multiplayer shooter
CoD4 is a game everyone can get in on, with little difficulty, and it suffers as a result.
CoD4 is a kiddie pool, full of urine and shallow.
CS is an Olympic pool; deep, long, tough to master but far more rewarding
blade55555
exactly. It scales...while I have not played clan matches (I never really had the dedication), standard CS is far more challenging than standard CoD4. I am sure clan CS is challenging than clan CoD4.
Dude I am sorry but cod4 is easy. Even in "clan matches". Just not as hard as CS. CS is hard on NORMAL servers. I can only imagine what a Clan War is like on that game lol.[QUOTE="blade55555"][QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Your eyes deceive you if you think its all easy on Cod4. Question, have you ever played a competitive clan match on Cod 4? Counter Strike does have a steeper learning curve due to the recoil being uncommon compared to traditional shooters, but you're not going to convince Cod 4 is that much easier of a game at high tier play. Both games are very rewarding when you are able to play at top tier, and joining servers to take advantage of lesser players.
mrbojangles25
exactly. It scales...while I have not played clan matches (I never really had the dedication), standard CS is far more challenging than standard CoD4. I am sure clan CS is challenging than clan CoD4.
Agreed, though Cod4 can be difficult.Join me and The Sith and you can have everything you can possibly want in the Galaxy Bojangles, become my apprentice. There are no limits....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6YiTLccSpc#t=7m10s
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
[QUOTE="blade55555"] Dude I am sorry but cod4 is easy. Even in "clan matches". Just not as hard as CS. CS is hard on NORMAL servers. I can only imagine what a Clan War is like on that game lol.OoSuperMarioO
exactly. It scales...while I have not played clan matches (I never really had the dedication), standard CS is far more challenging than standard CoD4. I am sure clan CS is challenging than clan CoD4.
Agreed, though Cod4 can be difficult.Join me and The Sith and you can have everything you can possibly want in the Galaxy Bojangles, become my apprentice. There are no limits....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6YiTLccSpc#t=7m10s
no! thats IMPOSSIBLE!
The game is boring... its a waste of time.... just play modern warfare for pete's shake
rjcadet7
You're really asking "why do a LOT of people play Counter Strike after 5 years since it came out when I don't like it".
And my answer is; not everyone is like you.
[QUOTE="JackBurton"]No, Quake 3 arena is :)Perhaps it's because Counter-Strike is the greatest MP FPS ever created.
JigglyWiggly_
Yep, Im with you on that.... I never seemed to like CSS even tried and tried. I dont understand why some people like it?
Heh, I remember the first time I played CS and never knew about the "Die and wait". I actually thought something was wrong with the game and re-installed it twice before realizing that it was a "feature". I now love how brutal the game is even though I don't play it anymore and haven't for sometime.Modern Warfare greater than Counter Strike?
Let me guess, you don't like waiting to come back to life when you get killed.
Wasdie
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