WildStar Open Beta starts today "10 days of awesome"

Yes I did. It annoys you that other people can't make time to play some games, and then you explained how you work oh so hard and still make time to play. What's your point? You want a medal? Some people are busier than others dude.

Really doubt your that busy.

See, there you go again. Assuming how busy or not people you don't even know are. ProTip: your life isn't the same as everyone else.

Pro tip just cause you think you're busy, chances are you are not that busy.

We are here to talk about video games. I have no idea why you even brought this subject up in the first place, or where you want to go with it. But I'll stop you right here, since I'm not going to keep talking about something so useless to the topic as what you presented. If you're busy and can still play games, congrats and go buy a cookie. If others are less or more busy than you, then that's their life and you should respect that. I never said I can't play ANY games, I just said that I don't have the time any more to invest into an MMO which requires more game time than something like Call of Duty. Honestly, dumbest thing I've read all week... someone trying to convince a totally random unknown person of how much time they do or don't have for gaming...

Wow man, do you even realize how absurd you sound?

Time=skill logic is pretty common in mmos.

I mean for instance in Tera, whenever I say that more of the PVP should be equalized gear because not everyone has the time, I get called a casual lol.

Of course when I compare my KDR in equalized battlegrounds it's over 16 times theirs. (My kdr is 8.5, theirs is always around .6)

Anyway, besides Wildstar 's there's another game that looks like it has better combat.

Check out Black Desert

If the storyline is good that's a good thing, classes and combat got nothing special.

Combat is copy paste from Neverwinter Online which is also a copy paste from Dragon Age 2.

You do realize you can still play MMO's at a casual pace right?, there is no written rule where you have to play MMO's at a ridiculous amount of time. I've done it with my ridiculous hours at my old work, people with jobs and families also play MMO's.

The only downside of playing a MMO casually is if you wanted to do hardcore raiding or raiding in general, other than that you can easily spend as much time playing a MMO as much as you would CoD, hell the MMO would probably last longer and have more bang for your buck than CoD could give.

If you're not into MMO's as much as you once were or you're just sick of MMO's then that's perfectly fine and honestly just say that if that's the reason why. Also you gave no reason or example "why you're busy", so that doesn't help your whole cause on the busy matter cause I know a few people who think working 30 hours a week is too much, hell I even have a friend who works 24 hours a week at Radioshack who thinks that qualifies as saying he's busy. If you do something that actually qualifies as keeping yourself busy like travel for a living, being in Law School or Nursing School then i'd see how someone could have little time playing a MMO or games in general

@JigglyWiggly_: Black Desert does look dope, the only bad thing is it probably won't get released outside of Korea.

Dude, I'm not even going to respond to all that until you realize how absurd and stupid you sound trying to explain something to someone you don't know and have absolutely no clue on how their life works.

@JigglyWiggly_ Black Desert WILL be launched outside Korea. They are working on an English version as we speak.

Black Desert combat looks terrible to me, like a bad GW2.

Tried it again today, not as bad as it was yesterday, but still very meh. That said crafting was pretty cool and a huge step above the typical norm in the genre, easily the only really redeemable quality the game has that I have seen thus far and the only thing that I wouldnt consider banal as of yet.

If anything it is closer to GW2 considering

• Manual dodging, of which 2 can be done in succession.
• Limited emphasis on resource management.
• Skill limit, as in players can you can not bring all that many skills into combat.
• Telegraphed easy to avoid attacks everywhere.
• Skills do not root you in place.
• No overly long skill combo strings which AoC had.

@ferrari2001: Like I said in another post, they are first impressions, I thought the fact that they were first impressions would have been obvious not only with that post, but also the reply to Geminon. You might not say that first impressions are not important for an mmo, but I can assure you that good first impressions are a must for bringing people into the genre, I know a lot of people who will only give an mmo about 30 minutes of time and if they are unimpressed after that they will quit, sometimes they have even less time to make a good impression. As for the time spent, on those first impressions roughly 30-60 minutes.

oh I do believe that. MMO combat needs to be refined and start evolving.

For instance, FF14 is a good mmo but I couldn't stand that it felt exactly like WoW (combat wise).

I have made a large time commitment to the beta's of Wildstar and I feel the similar way about it's generic combat system.

I know Project Titan was suppose to have a way more fluid combat system but that game is essentially dead.

The path quests need to be more different than one another.

For instance, exploration. I think it would be better if they just gave you a list of things that might be in the entire zone and then just have you search the entire map for them. when you're asked to locate a high point and find a signal, there should be multiple high points on the entire map and you just have to find and get to one.

a lot of them have markers as well so it is pretty much just go here and do this again.

You got owned plain and simple felipe. I said nothing absurd, only things I've taken in from personal experience and it's a fact you can play MMO's casually as much as CoD. So you saying "I don't have time" is a piss poor excuse when I gave not only my life as an example, but other people who also play MMO's maybe 1-3 hours a week as well. You gave no reasons why you don't have time is also a prime example why you're such full of BS.

I'm done trying to bash common sense into you since all you can reply with is "you don't know me", do yourself a favor and look up the word Excuse. If you'd rather spend your free time doing something else then just say that or if your tired of MMO's then just say that. Saying MMO's can't be played casually is a bunch of BS unless you're someone who can't cut themselves off.

I like the fact it's got humour built right into it(at least according to the vids) so definitely has character and style.

Downloading it as I type... In fact if i stop typing and using up bandwidth it'll download quicker.

Sure dude, whatever you say. You know it all and know everyone's life so well that you can judge their spare time and even plan it for them. Maybe read my posts properly next time and contribute something to the conversation instead of bringing up your useless points (which even another poster also agreed were absurd). Of course I could probably play 2-3 hours a week, the point was that paying $15 a month for that wouldn't be worthwhile. That's why I said I would rather just play something like Guild Wars 2 which is free. READ READ READ.

The sole fact that you use words like "owned" show me you are a kid just trying to win arguments on the internet with random people cause of whatever is lacking in your life, guess it was my turn this week. Good luck with that.

no, it wont.

just like the dozens and dozens of other Korean MMOs that come out each year. it is never going to see a western release. and they are NOT working on an english version. there has never been anything said about a english version. one of the devs (maybe?) at a korean game show made a quick comment that they are LOOKING for a western publisher.... that is all. every MMO dev in korea LOOKS for a western publisher. only a small percentage actually finds one.

You need to stop being such an idiot, you never mentioned anything about having issues with monthly fees and you never mentioned ANYTHING about GW2 in any of your posts, in fact the only MMO you mentioned was Everquest Next.

You got owned cause you have no idea what the word Excuse means and now you're making up Bullshit, just stop kid before you get owned even more.

@vfibsux: Why are you such an ignorant person? and go back to not contribute anything on here.

Yet games that you don't like still continue to be made anyway. :P

You calling him ignorant and saying he isn't contributing anything on here?

I agree with @vfibsux, go back to where you came from.

btw, I sent a message on the Black Desert Facebook page about releasing outside of Korea and they responded saying that they are planning to and working on the English version now

@FelipeInside: God you can smell the butthurt, I called you out, you didn't list any reasons what makes you have no time to play MMO's cause I said you can play them casually, then you spew some bullshit about not thinking the $15 is worth it which has NOTHING to do not having time to play MMO's. Oh and can't forget you actually thought you mentioned Guild Wars 2 in this thread which you mentioned nothing about, in fact the only MMO you mentioned in this thread was Everquest Next, how the hell do you just randomly spew BS then blame me for not reading when you have no idea what the FRAK you're saying.

rofl that you even care this much.

You remind me of the dude from Dodgeball who masturbates with pizza.

@vfibsux said:

@Ballroompirate said:

@FelipeInside: God you can smell the butthurt, I called you out, you didn't list any reasons what makes you have no time to play MMO's cause I said you can play them casually, then you spew some bullshit about not thinking the $15 is worth it which has NOTHING to do not having time to play MMO's. Oh and can't forget you actually thought you mentioned Guild Wars 2 in this thread which you mentioned nothing about, in fact the only MMO you mentioned in this thread was Everquest Next, how the hell do you just randomly spew BS then blame me for not reading when you have no idea what the FRAK you're saying.

rofl that you even care this much.

You remind me of the dude from Dodgeball who masturbates with pizza.

^^ lol... believe it or not I also thought that.

As for Ballroom: Dude, what is wrong with you? Like you really do have serious issues. You made such a big scandal out of something so insignifcant, and kept going with it. Honestly, get yourself checked or something...

@FelipeInside said:

@vfibsux said:

@Ballroompirate said:

@FelipeInside: God you can smell the butthurt, I called you out, you didn't list any reasons what makes you have no time to play MMO's cause I said you can play them casually, then you spew some bullshit about not thinking the $15 is worth it which has NOTHING to do not having time to play MMO's. Oh and can't forget you actually thought you mentioned Guild Wars 2 in this thread which you mentioned nothing about, in fact the only MMO you mentioned in this thread was Everquest Next, how the hell do you just randomly spew BS then blame me for not reading when you have no idea what the FRAK you're saying.

rofl that you even care this much.

You remind me of the dude from Dodgeball who masturbates with pizza.

^^ lol... believe it or not I also thought that.

As for Ballroom: Dude, what is wrong with you? Like you really do have serious issues. You made such a big scandal out of something so insignifcant, and kept going with it. Honestly, get yourself checked or something...

Says the guy who just bullshit his way throughout this whole thread, classy. You're ignorance is just unreal, seriously before you tell someone learn to read, learn the difference between having an issue with having time to play MMO's, then switching your argument with having issues with the sub fee, now I'm gonna wait and see what other bullshit reason you're gonna come up with next. But I guess it's given you just pull derp out of your ass constantly since I've seen you in a game already.

What game was that?

Who's alt is this, hmmmm?

PS: I actually know already, and have informed the mods. They are investigating.

Just to point out I've installed the game just to know why are you people arguing over and I have a conclusion:

Combat is simillar to Smite which is good, but the game is plain boring.

Remember when we were talking about that Wildstar game? lol

Pretty similar to other MMORPGs, I like the combat, real time is better than click and watch.

Questing is pretty standard.

The setting and characters is probably the thing that is the most unique to the game. Human races are a bit boring but I like the rest of the creations.

What the hell has happened to this board, it's turned into a bunch of personal attacks and arguing over if someone has as much free time as they say they do.

And why does everyone feel the need to jump on Felipe's a$$ all the damn time. He's one of the few decent people still hanging out on this God forsaken board....

you have time to post between 20 and 50 times a day on this forum... you clearly have time to play an MMO.

who the **** are you trying to fool felipe?

Maybe he's at work, that's where I am when I post 95% of the time.

Besides why the hell would he be trying to fool anyone about if he has time for an mmo? Furthermore why the hell does anyone care?

Tried it, while I'm sure its end-game will appeal to fans of WoW... and be abit faster paced than most games....

1) I hate the art style..... from character to enviroment design.

2) didn't like any of the classes and the way they control.... it tries too hard to remove auto-mated bits and makes a tedious game.

3) The humour was trying way too hard and just came off as aimed at 10 year olds.

4) the quest U.I was absolutely horrible.... and I thought FFXIV's map was confusing at first.... but this... jesus christ.

5) the jak and daxter movement... oddly enough annoys the crap out of me.

Sticking with FFXIV ... the luire of schedules raids has gone for me.... I dont care if they have 19 months of content to back it up afterward.

oh my god.... what are you talking about?

that housing system is not new.... the dungeon content is not new (just more fleshed out in a specific combat direction)

oh im not writing an essay... stop saying innovation in the wrong context.

Well if you like FF's art style then I can see the problem...I HATE FF art style...the Japanese speed racer look just drives me mad. So yea, difference of opinion there but it's just not your thing.

Totally agree with the humor they do try a bit too hard imo.

@MBirdy88: So the questlog tells me to speak to a certain NPC, because the quest journal is downright useless (unlike the one in say WoW), the only real indication I had of an NPCs location was the quest map, when I entered the area where the NPC was supposed to be, there was nobody there.

Either the Quest marker lied to me or the NPC wouldnt show up due to some bug, either way this is not fun and the quest UI truly is the worst I have seen in an mmo for ages.

I so agree with you. Quest log and map is really bad.

@Maroxad I hear you, I just had to spam the arrow thing over and over... which was another annoyance, it should of been permanent.

I want to add another point, I don't understand the "Active Combat" or people in this thread mis-using the "Real-Time" word.... all MMO combat is real time... get your damn terms correct. (well except the obvious turn based ones).

This combat is just like most other mmos, yes you aim with telegraphs... but you still press the damn hotkey button for it over and over again, combined with the occasional poorly-implemented guild wars 2 roll, oh well at least it doesn't make you immune like that bad game did.

It has the trinity, which automatically makes it ok though... but I found spamming your base-attack tedious over and over again. people say this is more involving than other MMOs.... but WoW and FFXIV's reactive and combo systems are still more advanced than most of these so called "action MMO" games with limited hotbars ... aiming a telegraph SLIGHTLY does not change that.

It's typical Felipe shyt, everyone knows you can play MMO's casually, hell I even gave examples. Then I asked him what makes him so busy that warrants all of his precious time and he says nothing throughout this thread. He even goes as far as changing his whole reason from not having enough time (even though he's willing to try out Everquest Next) to not thinking the $15 sub fee is worth it, seriously which one is it Felipe!?!?!. Oh and don't forget his rant about Guild Wars 2, which he said nothing about in this thread, kinda ironic he calls me absurd with all of the bullshit he's been pulling off in this thread.

His whole banter is absurd and contradicting.

I'm so confused. All this has just gotten strange lol...

I just think it's so strange....this whole attack on Felipe over his own personal life and time.

Felipe: "I just don't have time to play enough to justify $15 a month."

Other Board members: "Oh yeah right you liar....what kind of bullshit shit are you tying to pull? You just think you don't have time, omg you suck and don't even try and get one past me I is way too smart for that!!!!"

While it looked impressive from the people playing it I hear "meh".

Been playing Final Fantasy Realm Reborn, holy shit that is a crafting system.

Guys, let's just try to avoid people who come here to troll or attack other members.

Sorry the topic got derailed because of this Ballroom dude who came out of nowhere with attacks, and sorry I fed his attack by responding (I'm normally good with that and avoid conversations). Let's get back to the topic at hand if anyone has any more opinions about the game, which so far hasn't been positive from what I see.