Will Cataclysm make or break WOW?

For me WOTLK was a fail and i know alot of people didn't like it either. I think the entire WOW just became too easy bland and repetitive. Im liking the ideas of Cataclysm so far. Not so much of the tauren paladin etc which is plain stupid. But the entire early WOW being changed will be good fun i think. I can't wait to do heroic DM the old instances were alot more fun to me.

What you think of Cataclysm? Make or break for you?

Not sure, WotLK wasn't as fun as TBC for me, but that might have been because the game was new to me. Most of the raids in WotLK have been fairly lame, but there was Ulduar... That was a really damn good raid instance.

I also started doing PvP in Wrath, and that was a lot of fun too.

I think Cataclysm does have a chance to shine, so many things are being changed, it's really hard to tell at this point.

Its not so much Cataclysm, as it is The Old Republic, Torchlight 2 (and mmo), The Secret World. Some of these are not too far off.

These are the main reason Wow means less and less these days, (especially to me)

Seems a little interesting, but WotLK was the end for me. I cancelled my account last year and havent looked back. The game is so sad compared to what it used to be. Oh well, I had lots of for about 5 years. Was a main tank in a top 100 guild and we had some epic moments. It still is a good game, but I got burnt out plus it changed a lot since the game first came out.

Not sure, WotLK wasn't as fun as TBC for me, but that might have been because the game was new to me. Most of the raids in WotLK have been fairly lame, but there was Ulduar... That was a really damn good raid instance.

I also started doing PvP in Wrath, and that was a lot of fun too.

I think Cataclysm does have a chance to shine, so many things are being changed, it's really hard to tell at this point.

scottahuch

Nope it wont hurt it one bit...for every one of us that quits because of expansions, another 2 sign up...

Nope it wont hurt it one bit...for every one of us that quits because of expansions, another 2 sign up...

SRTtoZ

I've been a healer forever, and it's not the mana conserving that bothers me, but the fact that they've reduced the healing value of spells to that of a level 80 in quest greens at level 85... hell, some spells have been nerfed so badly that a level 70 could do better 3 years ago. I really don't know if I want to be the **** of the expansion or just quit once and for all.

I've been a healer forever, and it's not the mana conserving that bothers me, but the fact that they've reduced the healing value of spells to that of a level 80 in quest greens at level 85... hell, some spells have been nerfed so badly that a level 70 could do better 3 years ago. I really don't know if I want to be the **** of the expansion or just quit once and for all.

Swedish_Chef

[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Nope it wont hurt it one bit...for every one of us that quits because of expansions, another 2 sign up...

Roland123_basic

Eh I dont agree...the numbers were higher than Halo reach at one point and Cataclysm doesnt even have a RELEASE Date. Wait for Cataclsym to near and you will see huge numbers...The gold farmers alone will keep them going strong.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Nope it wont hurt it one bit...for every one of us that quits because of expansions, another 2 sign up...

SRTtoZ

Eh I dont agree...the numbers were higher than Halo reach at one point and Cataclysm doesnt even have a RELEASE Date. Wait for Cataclsym to near and you will see huge numbers...The gold farmers alone will keep them going strong.

[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Nope it wont hurt it one bit...for every one of us that quits because of expansions, another 2 sign up...

Roland123_basic

wow will never break, even if they only had 1 million people playing.

cataclysm will see a heap of players return who quit.

I haven't played in 2 years and don't plan on restarting, there's just too many other games out there that take up my time.

The only thing that makes or breaks a game for you, is what your own personal preferences are towards it.

You will either like to play a game for whatever reason(s) or you're going to hate playing it for whatever reason(s).

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Nope it wont hurt it one bit...for every one of us that quits because of expansions, another 2 sign up...

shakmaster13

WLK was depressingly boring.

There was nothing in it that was as fun as it was during vanilla and TBC.

I doubt guild talents will do any good to solve the PuG raids problem...Cataclysm won't "make or break" WoW, WLK already broke it.

theyre...

...redoing the entire old-world game setting (old Azeroth)

...adding two new races

...complete tweaking the classes and adding new fundamental changes and additions to them

...raising the level cap to 85, raising profession level, adding new profession abilities and patterns, adding guild leveling

...theyre gonna have like 20 new 5-man dungeons, and a few more raids (dont really care, raiding takes too much time)

Basically, no one has a right to complain about this expansion unless you just dont plain like WoW.

1. If you are one of the players that says "Man, old WoW was awesome, I hate the new expansions" well guess what? Here is your chance to reroll not just a new character of the old race (you dont need Cataclysm for that, and it'd be worthwhile to do that anyway) or a new toon of the new race.

Its like...pressing the restart button. You get to experience all this awesome content you fell in love with, but there is also a plethora of new content in old world Azeroth

2. If you liked the expansions, well, here is another good one lol.

imo Cataclysm will be the best thing for WoW since its original release.

theyre...

...redoing the entire old-world game setting (old Azeroth)

...adding two new races

...complete tweaking the classes and adding new fundamental changes and additions to them

...raising the level cap to 85, raising profession level, adding new profession abilities and patterns, adding guild leveling

...theyre gonna have like 20 new 5-man dungeons, and a few more raids (dont really care, raiding takes too much time)

Basically, no one has a right to complain about this expansion unless you just dont plain like WoW.

1. If you are one of the players that says "Man, old WoW was awesome, I hate the new expansions" well guess what? Here is your chance to reroll not just a new character of the old race (you dont need Cataclysm for that, and it'd be worthwhile to do that anyway) or a new toon of the new race.

Its like...pressing the restart button. You get to experience all this awesome content you fell in love with, but there is also a plethora of new content in old world Azeroth

2. If you liked the expansions, well, here is another good one lol.

imo Cataclysm will be the best thing for WoW since its original release.

mrbojangles25

Cataclysm will just help WoW exapand. Anyways most people are interested in the refreshed 1-60 experiance which is not part of the Cataclysm expansion. The world will be destroyed probobly next month with the 4.03 patch and thats when we will most likely see huge numbers of players returning to check out how the world was changed.

[QUOTE="scottahuch"]

I also started doing PvP in Wrath, and that was a lot of fun too.

shakmaster13

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

theyre...

...redoing the entire old-world game setting (old Azeroth)

...adding two new races

...complete tweaking the classes and adding new fundamental changes and additions to them

...raising the level cap to 85, raising profession level, adding new profession abilities and patterns, adding guild leveling

...theyre gonna have like 20 new 5-man dungeons, and a few more raids (dont really care, raiding takes too much time)

Basically, no one has a right to complain about this expansion unless you just dont plain like WoW.

1. If you are one of the players that says "Man, old WoW was awesome, I hate the new expansions" well guess what? Here is your chance to reroll not just a new character of the old race (you dont need Cataclysm for that, and it'd be worthwhile to do that anyway) or a new toon of the new race.

Its like...pressing the restart button. You get to experience all this awesome content you fell in love with, but there is also a plethora of new content in old world Azeroth

2. If you liked the expansions, well, here is another good one lol.

imo Cataclysm will be the best thing for WoW since its original release.

Roland123_basic

its just going to make you self center hobo's shill out more of your money for a game that i wouldnt even classify as a game.. its a slobbery mess, that is shaped into a game. its an MMOSNS (massively multiplayer online social networking system/site)

to quote derrick:

your all addicts.. you need help, and none of you have any friends!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN2HAroA12w

ionusX

Way to insult millions of people becouse they play a game or genre you do not like.

I'm honestly running out of patience waiting for Cataclysm. They keep leaking out newer content that's going to be in-game. Every class is going to be very different, and I'm starting to like the talent builds more. And the old world will FINALLY be taken out come Cataclysm. New, better quests, beautiful music (if you haven't heard some of it, you should), new areas, and new races.

I will most definitely be rolling a Worgen when it comes out.

I'm honestly running out of patience waiting for Cataclysm. They keep leaking out newer content that's going to be in-game. Every class is going to be very different, and I'm starting to like the talent builds more. And the old world will FINALLY be taken out come Cataclysm. New, better quests, beautiful music (if you haven't heard some of it, you should), new areas, and new races.

I will most definitely be rolling a Worgen when it comes out.

MetaKnight117

Changes to the classes come with 4.01 so soon and Old World is going bye bye in a few weeks you know, not when the expansion come out.

Changes to the classes come with 4.01 so soon and Old World is going bye bye in a few weeks you know, not when the expansion come out.

rzepak

Yes, I know that. I heard that the old world changes and the new race/class combos will come in a patch right before Cataclysm.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

Changes to the classes come with 4.01 so soon and Old World is going bye bye in a few weeks you know, not when the expansion come out.

MetaKnight117

Yes, I know that. I heard that the old world changes and the new race/class combos will come in a patch right before Cataclysm.

[QUOTE="MetaKnight117"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

Changes to the classes come with 4.01 so soon and Old World is going bye bye in a few weeks you know, not when the expansion come out.

Roland123_basic

Yes, I know that. I heard that the old world changes and the new race/class combos will come in a patch right before Cataclysm.

so that begs the question..... what exactly are you paying for with cataclysm? 2 new races? big Fing deal..... if the majority of the population didnt already have 3-4 80s i would say this was kind of cool... no new hero classes? wtf blizzard.... broken promises.... recycled raid instances? ragnoros is back? we already killed him.... COME ON.... onyxia as well? WHAT THE HELL flying mounts in old world? didnt need them before... why would you need them now? the list just goes on.... to me, cataclysm just looks like a final cash-in expansion before blizzard announces their new MMO.Roland123_basic

Blizzard never promised new hero classes. Who told you that? Also, you'll need the expansion pack so you can access the new areas, the 7 new dungeons, 3 new raids, and the new races. Maybe even the new profession and battleground, but that has not been confirmed yet.

I'm probably missing more reasons to get the expansion, but these are the ones I can get off the top of my head.

[QUOTE="MetaKnight117"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

Changes to the classes come with 4.01 so soon and Old World is going bye bye in a few weeks you know, not when the expansion come out.

Roland123_basic

Yes, I know that. I heard that the old world changes and the new race/class combos will come in a patch right before Cataclysm.

5 years later and people are still talking about "making or breaking" WOW. No matter what, WOW will continue on. It has far too large a playerbase at this point. As long as Blizzard continues to support it, people will play it. Seriously, if EQ is still going on (and UO for that matter) then WOW has a long lifespan ahead of it.

its just going to make you self center hobo's shill out more of your money for a game that i wouldnt even classify as a game.. its a slobbery mess, that is shaped into a game. its an MMOSNS (massively multiplayer online social networking system/site)

to quote derrick:

your all addicts.. you need help, and none of you have any friends!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN2HAroA12w

ionusX

5 years later and people are still talking about "making or breaking" WOW. No matter what, WOW will continue on. It has far too large a playerbase at this point. As long as Blizzard continues to support it, people will play it. Seriously, if EQ is still going on (and UO for that matter) then WOW has a long lifespan ahead of it.

Johnny_Rock

[QUOTE="MetaKnight117"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

Changes to the classes come with 4.01 so soon and Old World is going bye bye in a few weeks you know, not when the expansion come out.

Roland123_basic

Yes, I know that. I heard that the old world changes and the new race/class combos will come in a patch right before Cataclysm.

Why would it matter? People are going to re roll?

no new hero classes?

Most people think the DK was a mistake class, an unneeded class.. Especially when it starts at level 55..

wtf blizzard.... broken promises.... recycled raid instances? ragnoros is back?

...........Revamped and based on what we know completely different.. This is awesome.. As a veteran mmo player I love to see this because the typical plan for all mmos seems to make a few new extra content.. And completely forgets old content.. So a large amount of the game feels highly outdated compared to the fraction of the new content..

we already killed him.... COME ON.... onyxia as well?

....... Whats wrong with this, they made a instance that no one ran in years into something to be gone through again?

WHAT THE HELL flying mounts in old world? didnt need them before...

...........How in the heck do you know they are changing the game.. And flying mounts imo is awesome all around for the old content..

why would you need them now?

Because they are compeltely changing the majority of the old contients? :|

the list just goes on....to me, cataclysm just looks like a final cash-in expansion before blizzard announces their new MMO.

WoW has already been "made" by vanilla WoW. This will just continue WoW and hold onto its subscribers and maybe bring new ones. It certainly won't "break" WoW though.Elann2008

If anything this will add more new subs then any other expansion they have released for the game.. Because of its massive and new changes the people will instantly being able to dive into.. While the vast majority of content provided by BC and WOTLK were mainly end game content.. I am excited for this, because as some one who has played mmos since EQ1 I got really sick of the typical expansion pack plan.. Release a ton of content but not do anythign with old content.. So large parts of the game pretty much disappear due to becoming outdated and useless.. WoW had the same problem with some really great instances that no one bothered running any more such as Strath..

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

so that begs the question..... what exactly are you paying for with cataclysm? 2 new races? big Fing deal..... if the majority of the population didnt already have 3-4 80s i would say this was kind of cool... no new hero classes? wtf blizzard.... broken promises.... recycled raid instances? ragnoros is back? we already killed him.... COME ON.... onyxia as well? WHAT THE HELL flying mounts in old world? didnt need them before... why would you need them now? the list just goes on.... to me, cataclysm just looks like a final cash-in expansion before blizzard announces their new MMO.MetaKnight117

Blizzard never promised new hero classes. Who told you that? Also, you'll need the expansion pack so you can access the new areas, the 7 new dungeons, 3 new raids, and the new races. Maybe even the new profession and battleground, but that has not been confirmed yet.

I'm probably missing more reasons to get the expansion, but these are the ones I can get off the top of my head.

Care to link it?

Care to link it?

MetaKnight117

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/faq/classes.html

it USED to be on that page.... which apparently has been altered since WOTLK launched according to forum posts on the official forums. under "Will there be ever more classes added to World of Warcraft?" it used to have a quick blurb about blizzard working on implementing several hero classes in the future. apparently they have since decided to completely abandon this because, for lack of a better reason that i can see, it is too much work.

also here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/faq.xml#1_5

it specifically states that they plan on adding more in the future. that just doesnt seem to be the case honestly...

[QUOTE="MetaKnight117"]

Care to link it?

Roland123_basic

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/faq/classes.html

it USED to be on that page.... which apparently has been altered since WOTLK launched according to forum posts on the official forums. under "Will there be ever more classes added to World of Warcraft?" it used to have a quick blurb about blizzard working on implementing several hero classes in the future. apparently they have since decided to completely abandon this because, for lack of a better reason that i can see, it is too much work.

also here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/faq.xml#1_5

it specifically states that they plan on adding more in the future. that just doesnt seem to be the case honestly...

When they say they will add new hero classes, I always thought they would do it in some sort of pattern, like one expansion with 2 new races, next a new class, the next with more races, and another with another new class. They may be following that pattern, but we don't know entirely for sure until they decide a new expansion. Or, they may possibly be bailing the hero classes since much QQ nuked Blizzard when the Death Knights came out for being overpowered.

I think this expansion will be the end of WOW. I am not sure why we would need another after this. In fact people don't see the mmorpg genre dieing but I can see people giving up on playing these games for awhile.

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