Would a maxed out top notch Dell XPS H2C overclocked...........

be worth the 8,000 dollars to you?

just wanted to hear your opinions because i calculated this on the website

No. You can get a computer equal to that for much much cheaper if you built it your self. And no one even should want a computer that powerful.el_carl

be worth the 8,000 dollars to you?

just wanted to hear your opinions because i calculated this on the website

footballa27

Absolutely. Every last penny. :)

[QUOTE="footballa27"]

be worth the 8,000 dollars to you?

just wanted to hear your opinions because i calculated this on the website

ZBoater

Absolutely. Every last penny. :)

*Shoots himself*

[QUOTE="footballa27"]

be worth the 8,000 dollars to you?

just wanted to hear your opinions because i calculated this on the website

ZBoater

Absolutely. Every last penny. :)

you payed $8000 for that??

[QUOTE="ZBoater"][QUOTE="footballa27"]

be worth the 8,000 dollars to you?

just wanted to hear your opinions because i calculated this on the website

DarkRecruit

Absolutely. Every last penny. :)

you payed $8000 for that??

dude, for a computer that can last a LOONG time and overclock alotta stuff. yea

[QUOTE="DarkRecruit"][QUOTE="ZBoater"][QUOTE="footballa27"]

be worth the 8,000 dollars to you?

just wanted to hear your opinions because i calculated this on the website

footballa27

Absolutely. Every last penny. :)

you payed $8000 for that??

dude, for a computer that can last a LOONG time and overclock alotta stuff. yea

lol, The money saved from not buying that over-priced hunk of metal can build you a TOP-OF-THE-LINE computer every 3 years for 12 years.K_r_a_u_s_e_r

I think that's the point. You could spend $8000 on an amazing comp that'll be surpassed by a PC costing half as much in the next generation. Of course you could upgrade but you may as well do what Krauser said and keep up with the generations.

DELL... *BOOOOOOOO*

Dell is waay to overpriced, if you ever have any question regarding a Dell that costs more than $750 being "woth it"... then the answer is NO. Why spend that much cash on a computer anyways?? Most of the time, the computer you just bought wil have been surpased by better technology a mere 6 months after you bought it... 8,000 dollars for six months... that is definetly not worth it...

[QUOTE="footballa27"]

be worth the 8,000 dollars to you?

just wanted to hear your opinions because i calculated this on the website

ZBoater

Absolutely. Every last penny. :)

That can be built for half the price? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it's a great system, but there's no way in hell it's worth the eight grand. Hell, if I were Bill Gates, I still would build, as opposed to purchasing pre-built.firefly026

It could be had cheaper, but not half the price. When I bought it there was $2,500 just between the monitor and video cards. Anoither $1000 for the processor, and when you add memory, hard drives, OS, etc., its not HALF. Consider a 4 year onsite warranty, and the difference shrinks even more.

You get what you pay for. Learn that lesson early in life and you will save yourself a lot of dissapointment... :)

$8000 huh? How 'bout I build you a dell equivelent that 2x as fast and you pay me $5000 labor instead?Cracker__Jack

I love the hyperbole. Never ceases to amaze me. So, for $3,000 you can build me an equivalent that will do 35,600 3DMark 06 with a 30" LCD and 1.8TB of disk space? Or what exactly do you mean by "equivalent"? Does that mean you will start cutting corners to bring the price down? And will you come to my house and fix it for free, parts and labor, for the next 4 years?

I didn't think so.... :)

[QUOTE="ZBoater"][QUOTE="footballa27"]

be worth the 8,000 dollars to you?

just wanted to hear your opinions because i calculated this on the website

Sprozelth

Absolutely. Every last penny. :)

[QUOTE="Cracker__Jack"]$8000 huh? How 'bout I build you a dell equivelent that 2x as fast and you pay me $5000 labor instead?ZBoater

I love the hyperbole. Never ceases to amaze me. So, for $3,000 you can build me an equivalent that will do 35,600 3DMark 06 with a 30" LCD and 1.8TB of disk space? Or what exactly do you mean by "equivalent"? Does that mean you will start cutting corners to bring the price down? And will you come to my house and fix it for free, parts and labor, for the next 4 years?

I didn't think so.... :)

these guys are juss mad because they dont have what you got.

i think im going to purchase this pc

[QUOTE="ZBoater"]

[QUOTE="Cracker__Jack"]$8000 huh? How 'bout I build you a dell equivelent that 2x as fast and you pay me $5000 labor instead?footballa27

I love the hyperbole. Never ceases to amaze me. So, for $3,000 you can build me an equivalent that will do 35,600 3DMark 06 with a 30" LCD and 1.8TB of disk space? Or what exactly do you mean by "equivalent"? Does that mean you will start cutting corners to bring the price down? And will you come to my house and fix it for free, parts and labor, for the next 4 years?

I didn't think so.... :)

CPU-$900

2x 8800 GTX-$1200

1.5TB HDD-$350

Case-$160

Mobo-$200

RAM-$250

Monitor 30"- $1200

PSU- $150

=$4410

Good, we are up to $4410 now. If we were just to add keyboard, mouse, OS, anti-virus, X-Fi sound card, TV tuner, a couple of Raptors in RAID instead of that cheap $350GB hard drive combo, a couple of DVD drives (one +/- RW), card reader, and four years of onsite warranty with parts and labor, what does that come out to?

No, not $8000. But not HALF.

Look up hyperbole in Google.

Like everyone else is saying, build it yourself. I built mine, and the Dell equivalent is literally twice as much more. Think you want to do some research, as top-notch parts are hardly ever worth it. No value in getting top-notch parts IMO.

One thing you need to realize is that your PC WILL go out of date. And the extra thousands of dollars will buy you only a couple months time, 1 year max. An $8000 PC isn't going to last twice as long as a $4000 PC. They go out of date. I guess you can get it if money is not a problem, but damn man that's a lot of money you could be spending elsewhere. I'm sure you're not going to notice a lot of real-world differences either. But if you feel that impressing people with some insane benchmarks is worth the extra thousands, than go for it. I don't think anyone here is crazy enough to build a $8000 PC though.

Like everyone else is saying, build it yourself. I built mine, and the Dell equivalent is literally twice as much more. Think you want to do some research, as top-notch parts are hardly ever worth it. No value in getting top-notch parts IMO.phan1

I think you didnt read the post above yours carefully. "Literally twice" is an inaccurate exaggeration. By the time you add all the missing parts and warranty, and if you luck out with the regular discounts Dell provides, you are looking at 15-20% more, tops. You have to compare APPLES to APPLES.

Listen, no one is arguing that Dell XPS is CHEAPER than buying it yourself. However, its not DOUBLE either. If someone chooses to build themselves, let them choose after understanding the FACTS without having to embellish them with hyperbole. There are factors OTHER than price than come into play when people say its "worth" it to them or not. No need to muddy the waters with inaccurate statements.

Just my $.02...

First off, you really need to stop using the word "hyperbole"...you sound like a kid who just found out the definition of a sophisticated-sounding word, and decided to start using it every single time you speak. All you really need to say is that it's a dramatic exaggeration to say that Dell XPS's cost twice as much as an equal quality home built PC.

Second, there's really no point in spending EIGHT THOUSAND dollars, when there's new hardware coming out every day, and the God-like build that you've had made by Dell will soon be rendered obselete by a much cheaper system.

Good, we are up to $4410 now. If we were just to add keyboard, mouse, OS, anti-virus, X-Fi sound card, TV tuner, a couple of Raptors in RAID instead of that cheap $350GB hard drive combo, a couple of DVD drives (one +/- RW), card reader, and four years of onsite warranty with parts and labor, what does that come out to?

No, not $8000. But not HALF.

Look up hyperbole in Google.

ZBoater

Keyboard mouse-$60

OS-$120 (OEM vista home premium)

Antivirus-AVG is free

sound card- waste of money imo

Tv tuner-$30

raptors-why??? HDD speed barely increases performence in games

dvd drives-$100

card read-no idea, maybe $40?

warranty-most parts come with a 1-3 year warranty, some are even lifetime and isn't dell warranty $500?

total is now $4760

But if you do have money to spend like that go for it...just make sure you have enough money for other things and aren't putting yourself under debt or something for no reason

I think you didnt read the post above yours carefully. "Literally twice" is an inaccurate exaggeration. By the time you add all the missing parts and warranty, and if you luck out with the regular discounts Dell provides, you are looking at 15-20% more, tops. You have to compare APPLES to APPLES.

Listen, no one is arguing that Dell XPS is CHEAPER than buying it yourself. However, its not DOUBLE either. If someone chooses to build themselves, let them choose after understanding the FACTS without having to embellish them with hyperbole. There are factors OTHER than price than come into play when people say its "worth" it to them or not. No need to muddy the waters with inaccurate statements.

Just my $.02...

ZBoater

Well, it probably depends on what you're aiming for. I just bought the tower. Mine was all about VALUE: E6750, 4GB RAM, 8800 GTS 320mb for about $1100 (all parts from Newegg). I built roughly the equivalent on Dell's website before and the price was over $2000 ($2300 I believe, but I like to keep it conservative). If you add in peripherals, than your percentage will decrease, but saving $1000 is saving $1000. It sounds like you guys are building some sort of sick monstrosity over there, so you're case might be different... But what you're building over there is pretty disgusting. I can think of a whole bunch of non-PC related things I'd like to do with an extra $5000...

[QUOTE="Sprozelth"][QUOTE="ZBoater"][QUOTE="footballa27"]

be worth the 8,000 dollars to you?

just wanted to hear your opinions because i calculated this on the website

LouieV13

Absolutely. Every last penny. :)

btw with 8k i rather get a car

not at all. thats 8 1000 dollar pcs. that would be such a sweet laninyourface_12

First off, you really need to stop using the word "hyperbole"...you sound like a kid who just found out the definition of a sophisticated-sounding word, and decided to start using it every single time you speak. All you really need to say is that it's a dramatic exaggeration to say that Dell XPS's cost twice as much as an equal quality home built PC.SilentFireX

Yourattempt to regulate my use of the English languageis not necessary or appreciated. Try again.

Second, there's really no point in spending EIGHT THOUSAND dollars, when there's new hardware coming out every day, and the God-like build that you've had made by Dell will soon be rendered obselete by a much cheaper system.SilentFireX

No point for YOU, perhaps. Doesnt mean there is a point for other people. I am not one to wait forever for "the next big thing". When I decide to buy, I buy, and enjoy it without fretting about what is around the corner.

And rendered obsolete "soon"? Define obsolete. For me, obsolete is when I can't get over 30fps in my favorite game. How "soon" do you think that will happen with this Dell rig? :)

Good, we are up to $4410 now. If we were just to add keyboard, mouse, OS, anti-virus, X-Fi sound card, TV tuner, a couple of Raptors in RAID instead of that cheap $350GB hard drive combo, a couple of DVD drives (one +/- RW), card reader, and four years of onsite warranty with parts and labor, what does that come out to?

No, not $8000. But not HALF.

Look up hyperbole in Google.

ZBoater

Well, it probably depends on what you're aiming for. I just bought the tower. Mine was all about VALUE: E6750, 4GB RAM, 8800 GTS 320mb for about $1100 (all parts from Newegg). ... It sounds like you guys are building some sort of sick monstrosity over there, so you're case might be different... But what you're building over there is pretty disgusting. I can think of a whole bunch of non-PC related things I'd like to do with an extra $5000... phan1

You make an excellent point, and very relevant to the ORIGINAL post that started this thread. Is it worth it to YOU??? Each person is different, and their idea of "worth" is different. I dont mind people trying to save a buck, and am not sure why some mind others spending it.

Thank you for your relevant and non-hyperbolic post...

What he means is that soon, there will be upgrades that will be greatly better than your Dell rig while being much cheaper. Thus, showing your fault in buying dell.crazycolt1234

There is always going to be something better around the corner, no matter WHAT you buy. What is your point, exactly?

EDIT: Please stop using sophisticated words like you're some genius, it makes you look like a hypocrite, you bought a Dell in fact. :lol:K_r_a_u_s_e_r

So making proper use of the english language makes me a genius? Thanks. You obviously have very low standards.

What does hypocrite mean?

[QUOTE="crazycolt1234"]What he means is that soon, there will be upgrades that will be greatly better than your Dell rig while being much cheaper. Thus, showing your fault in buying dell.ZBoater

There is always going to be something better around the corner, no matter WHAT you buy. What is your point, exactly?

Just that you overpaid for a computer that will be soon replaced by something much better.crazycolt1234

Ok, so what is the difference between overpaying and paying just right for a computer that will be soon replaced by something much better? The $1,500-$2000 difference?

Well, since the original poster was talking about WORTH, then the question becomes was it worth spending an extra $1500-$2000 for the H2C? That depends, doesn't it? It depends on how much you value your time, in how much you want to get involved in building a computer, how much time you want to spend fixing problems down the road, etc. Some people do not value their time and convenience as much as others. I was looking for a PC that I could take out and use right of the box, play every single game in my house at 2560x1600 at well over 60fps, break the 17K mark in 3DMark06, and if it ever breaks, make a single phone call and make it someone else's problem for the next four years.

I got what I was looking for, so for ME, it was worth it. :)

In your case it would be "A person who fails to practice what they preach". The fact that you're acting high and mighty, thinking you're some kind of genius because you bought a Dell is hilarious and such a contradiction, I mean damn ONLY YOU would buy that overpriced hunk of metal and be proud of it.K_r_a_u_s_e_r

No, Krauser, YOU are the one adscribing that behavior to me simply for using a proper adjective. And yes, I am very proud of my PC and what I can do with it. It seems to me that your hostility is revealing a bit of latent jealousy. Control yourself man, its embarassing....

No, Krauser, YOU are the one adscribing that behavior to me simply for using a proper adjective. And yes, I am very proud of my PC and what I can do with it. It seems to me that your hostility is revealing a bit of latent jealousy. Control yourself man, its embarassing....

ZBoater

HOLY S everybody... can we all please act like regular people and not like hgih school kids?? (I'm in high school... and you guys are acting like it)...

You are ALL right... in one way or another... The guy who uses "hyperbole" Yea, its good that you are trying to get people to compare apples to apples n all, but seriously... start using words we all understand... please... And yes, I see and understand your argument that we all need to factor in the warranty dah dah dah...

So... let's just each add in our 2 cents and let the OP decide for himself!

So here's my opinion... If you really want to spend $8,000 for a computer, then go right ahead... its YOUR money. BUT, the way I see it, there is no point, and the reason for that is the fast pace that our technology is advancing. Its FAST and its only going to get faster. So no matter what kind of a rig you buy, its going to be obsolete in as little as 6 months. A friend of mine bought an XPS a year ago for a large sum of $3,000 (It took him 4 years to save that much) and today... he wants a new computer... So here's my suggestion, I think you should spend around 3K right now to build a computer (Including monitor speakers and etc.) In a year or two when your parts are somewhat obsolete, you can spend some more money to buy the CORE parts (CPU, MOBO, RAM, GPU) and keep the hard drive, optical drives, case, cables, monitor, speakers, etc. that you first bought. It's cheaper that way, AND your 8 grand will give you top of the line stuff much longer than if you were to just spend it all at once on one PC.

GenAlpha makes a very good point,personally i have no need for a extremely high-end PC,especially one that will be outdated within a year,but if i wanted a high-end PC,i'd just build something like a E4300 and OC it to 3.6GHz with Tuniq Tower 120,a 8800GTX,2GB RAM and then use all that extra cash for future upgrades,hell with $8000 you can build at least two high end rigs once every 3 years including upgrades.

But if i was going Dell,i'd just get something like a XPS 410 with E6550,8800GTX,2GB RAM,etc for as cheap as possible and like with building my own use that extra cash for upgrades or even a new rig in 3 years.

Just my 2 cents.

Well, I will disagree. :) Surprise!

3 1/2 years ago I bought a XPS Gen2, top of the line P4EE. I remember like it was yesterday all the hostility in this very forum for buying a Dell. Well, I bought top of the line, and that machine is STILL working like a champ. I upgraded the video card, and thats about it. I am playing BF2 at 1600x1050 (actually, my friends are playing now - I am using the new one :) )

If you buy a top of the line computer, it doesnt become "obsolete" in 6 months. Sure, something faster comes along in 6 months, but are you telling me my QX6600 is "obsolete" because the QX6850 came out? Is my 8800GTX "obsolete" because the 9800 will come out? Baloney!!!

Obsolete means it no longer useful (check Merriam Webster - perhaps if we used fancier words once in a while, we wouldnt be throwing them around and misusing them so casually. Is that snotty of me? So be it. I just want us to COMMUNICATE clearly). Useful, for a gamer, means it runs the games you WANT to play in a manner you ENJOY playing them. As long as your computer does that, it is NOT obsolete.

I bet your old 486 running Windows for Workgroups probably runs Solitaire alright. And if Solitaire is ALL you want to do, is that 486 obsolete? Things that make you go hmmmmmm....

Well, I will disagree. :) Surprise!

3 1/2 years ago I bought a XPS Gen2, top of the line P4EE. I remember like it was yesterday all the hostility in this very forum for buying a Dell. Well, I bought top of the line, and that machine is STILL working like a champ. I upgraded the video card, and thats about it. I am playing BF2 at 1600x1050 (actually, my friends are playing now - I am using the new one :) )

If you buy a top of the line computer, it doesnt become "obsolete" in 6 months. Sure, something faster comes along in 6 months, but are you telling me my QX6600 is "obsolete" because the QX6850 came out? Is my 8800GTX "obsolete" because the 9800 will come out? Baloney!!!

Obsolete means it no longer useful (check Merriam Webster - perhaps if we used fancier words once in a while, we wouldnt be throwing them around and misusing them so casually. Is that snotty of me? So be it. I just want us to COMMUNICATE clearly). Useful, for a gamer, means it runs the games you WANT to play in a manner you ENJOY playing them. As long as your computer does that, it is NOT obsolete.

I bet your old 486 running Windows for Workgroups probably runs Solitaire alright. And if Solitaire is ALL you want to do, is that 486 obsolete? Things that make you go hmmmmmm....

ZBoater

We're not saying it's gonna be obsolete (atleast not me), just saying you could've got it for under 5k.

[QUOTE="ZBoater"]

Well, I will disagree. :) Surprise!

3 1/2 years ago I bought a XPS Gen2, top of the line P4EE. I remember like it was yesterday all the hostility in this very forum for buying a Dell. Well, I bought top of the line, and that machine is STILL working like a champ. I upgraded the video card, and thats about it. I am playing BF2 at 1600x1050 (actually, my friends are playing now - I am using the new one :) )

If you buy a top of the line computer, it doesnt become "obsolete" in 6 months. Sure, something faster comes along in 6 months, but are you telling me my QX6600 is "obsolete" because the QX6850 came out? Is my 8800GTX "obsolete" because the 9800 will come out? Baloney!!!

Obsolete means it no longer useful (check Merriam Webster - perhaps if we used fancier words once in a while, we wouldnt be throwing them around and misusing them so casually. Is that snotty of me? So be it. I just want us to COMMUNICATE clearly). Useful, for a gamer, means it runs the games you WANT to play in a manner you ENJOY playing them. As long as your computer does that, it is NOT obsolete.

I bet your old 486 running Windows for Workgroups probably runs Solitaire alright. And if Solitaire is ALL you want to do, is that 486 obsolete? Things that make you go hmmmmmm....

DarkRecruit

We're not saying it's gonna be obsolete (atleast not me), just saying you could've got it for under 5k.

well if u wernt hekka lazy and tried to build it urself like i did u wud find that u could save 4000$$$$ and wit that u could buy a 42" LCD Monitor from NEC and sum good speakers and 50 bacon sandwiches

also extreme processors are overkill and OCing a core2duo by urself wudnt be that hard srry for the edit but i forgot to mention that dells r gagagaga and they suk

also if u used up all that money how long did it take u to earn it???????????

r u a doctor or sumthing>?

Bacon sanwiches r gooooooodddd