Who thinks that graphics is not important?

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#101 skp_16
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Well I have my stupid math:

Bad Graphics+Bad Gameplay=Bad

Bad Graphics+Medium Gameplay=Almost Worth Trying

Medium Graphics+bad Gameplay=Worth Trying

Medium Graphics+Medium Graphics=Good

Great Graphics+Medium Gameplay=Great

Medium Graphics+Great Gameplay=Great

Great Graphics+Great Gameplay=Awesome

Also Sometimes story makes you get into the game and you forget of how bad the game is...

But The again People think different and what I like may be what the other person Hates.

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You forgot...

Bad Graphics + Great Gameplay = good game

Great Graphics + Bad Gameplay =bad game

As long as the gameplay is great I don't care about the graphics.

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#102 Myviewing
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I don't find the graphics to be that important either. To show how much I stand against the importanceof graphics, I like to take the debate about the NintendoWii being compared to the360 and PS3.For some reason, a lot of Wii haters like to use the statement "It's graphics are too weak" as one of the reasons to hate the Wii. Is this really a comparison that should be taken so seriously? Are these gamers talking or are they art connoisseurs?

But, as a gamer (That's right, not casual or hardcore) I follow the statement: "Graphics don't make the game".

Take a look at Lunar: The Silver Star Story Complete. Graphics that could only pass as acceptable on the SNES, but great gameplay and storyline that makes it one of the best RPGs I've ever played. And Killzone, In my opinion has nice fitting graphics that live up to PS2greatness, but tedious and mediocre gameplay. I would have bought this game if it was fun, but since it only had graphics to offer, I just returned it to Blockbusterand got Fable: The Lost Chapters.

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#103 hellgod10
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in my opinion the most important thing is the story, then the gameplay. for example, final fantasy 7 has crappy graphics, but it's still my preferred game ever, because of it's story. on the opposite side, both god of war and Valkyrie 2 have awesome graphics, but they suck in the gameplay (i dunno about the story, cuz i never played them enough to get into it)

however, the problem is that as the time passes and new and improved hardware appears, most game creators only improve the graphics and some of them the soundtrack, but the story (I'm talking specially about action and rpg games) as been worse and worse (most of the final fantasy fans agree with me on this, I'm sure, that since final fantasy 7, the graphics have become better, but the story's have been worse and worse, except maybe for final fantasy x)

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#104 gaa0c85
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For me it Story/Music, Gameplay, Graphics. I rather be reeled into a game with an awesome story and environment then be dazzled by graphics but the disappointed by lack of story.quack_er

Thats true, many games that have good graphics have a weak story line

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#105 CSXLoser
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to me graphics dont matter as long as i can tell what the heck things are in the game. If yellow is green and circles are squares in the game, then that will subtract points from playablity and gameplay (ESPECIALLY IF IT IS A PUZZLE GAME)

that doesnt mean i like nice graphic video games. Hoever i do get piss when i see people at places like gamestop finding games that only play in 1080p

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#106 BuryMe
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I don't find the graphics to be that important either. To show how much I stand against the importanceof graphics, I like to take the debate about the NintendoWii being compared to the360 and PS3.For some reason, a lot of Wii haters like to use the statement "It's graphics are too weak" as one of the reasons to hate the Wii. Is this really a comparison that should be taken so seriously? Are these gamers talking or are they art connoisseurs? Myviewing
I agree with that. I love my wii because of its games, an there isn't much that gets me excited on the ps3 or 360. I really don't care that it's not as strong as the othe 2 are. It's a lot of fun.
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#107 dmbrown58
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GRAPHICS > game play, story, controls, camera angle = LAIR I miss some of the old 2D games that had unique artistic style like Metal Slug, Guilty Gear or Disgaea. Graphics can only carry a game so far.
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#108 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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graphic are important for me, when u play a game like the elder scroll 4 oblivion, u reall feel ur into the game because of high level of details there is to the graphic, also that a reason why can't play the old final fantasy anymore
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#109 m3ss
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These graphics have become a rather large factor in a game's success, simply because people expect more. Me, I expect to enjoy myself. Games like Katamari Damacy, while having charming but weak graphics, are still amazing due to their stellar, original gameplay.
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#110 PS2Dude89
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I think that graphics are important for the most part because I like to see and play good looking games but a lot of graphics fit the game they are in as well. For me the gameplay and how fun the game is is that most important thing in a game to me and also a game that keeps me interested and entertained is very good as well.

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#111 Nithl
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ok graphics are not the most important thing..... it has been said hundreds of times on this forum but the old SNES games are my personal Favorite.... crono trigger.... SMB I LOVED EM ALL... but now everyone i know thinks that graphics rule but personally my favorite graphics are the 2d ones because you dont expect them to be pefect.... i mean look at the online games... some are alright but some are just crap with the blocky graphics.... and the 2d ones look nice and are smooth.... so all in all yes graphics do make a small difference... i mean if you were to play a game and you had no idea what was going on because of the crappyness of the 3d graphics then yes they would matter.... but with the technonogy we have today people are putting to much work into graphics and not enough into gameplay..... and thats where everything lies in.. gamepay/storyline/music!!!
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#112 Dualmask
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Given that this thread has over 12 pages now, I'm sure I'm repeating what at least one or two people must have already said, but here goes.

I'm not going to lie and say that graphics aren't important at all. However, *how important* is another matter. Although I love the fact that technology is moving forward and textures, physics, etc. are better than ever, graphics are still the first impression, the exterior of the whole product.

In a perfect world, we'd have nothing but games that both looked great and played well. But since we don't, we as gamers have to decide what's most important, and I'm sorry but graphics, no matter how good they are, can only hold my attention for so long (and yes, I've played games in HD). Even if the graphics are so jaw-dropping you can't stop praising them, eventually you will get to a point where you grow accustomed to the graphics and all that matters is the gameplay.

God of War is a great example. It was gorgeous and fun to play...all 9 or so hours it took for me to finish it. After that I had no interest in the game at all, and I was ashamed that I spent $50 on it. All flash, no substance. On the other hand, I'm running through Final Fantasy 8 for the umpteenth time. Graphically, by today's standards it's kind of hard to look at (except for the FMVs which are still exceptional) but the gameplay holds up.

Are graphics unimportant? No. If things are so bad you can't tell if you're jumping towards a ledge or a flat wall texture, or if characters' faces are so nondescript they look like a botched surgery, then graphics are a problem. But that does not mean every game that gets graphics right is perfect.

And another thing. I don't totally agree that the next generation's consoles' graphics capabilities necessarily need to exceed the level of the previous generation. I don't agree because I'm still having oodles of fun with games of yesteryear. It's good graphics are improving, but gameplay isn't for the most part. That's why, right now, I'm satisfied with my Wii and I'm not in a hurry to pick up a PS3/360 (I will eventually...maybe). I've been playing games since the days of the Atari 2600. Frankly, standard gaming, as pretty as it is these days, is starting to feel a little monotonous. I'd rather see innovations in gameplay (thank you Nintendo) than improvements in visuals...though yes, I'd really love to have both at the same time, on all systems.

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#113 deactivated-58bd60b980002
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I think graphics are important. If we buy new PS or new Xbox is for graphic, because the games are the same , just more bigger in some cases.

Back in the day with NES or SNES or PS1 they were the most advancedtechnology , so games like FF7 were the best looking game when it came out and it was one of the most enjoyable game for PS1. When PS4 will come out we will look at PS3 and think that his graphic aren't that good now.

But the game need to be fun to sell. For me , if the game doesn't last at least 20 hours for the story , I don,t feel the need to play it again because it is too short.

Let's face it. Race game , FPS , Sports game and Fighting game need the best graphics out there to have a chance to sell. But RPG and MMORPG are also known to have great graphics , more immersive , more reallistic , if the game look lifeless , it will be boring.

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#114 T-bone123
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I don't care about graphics as long as you can tell what your doing.
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#115 southy787
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I think graphics are seen as so important because they are one of the only aspects of games that can be compared directly between one another. A game either has better, cleaner, crisper graphics than another game, or it doesn't. There's no middle ground. On the other hand, aspects such as sound and gameplay are subjective, different people have different tastes, in genres of games, and in genres of music. Graphics give a means for which people can definitively say a game is 'better' than another game.

Whilst I don't agree that graphics are the most important factor in the game, generally it is viewed by the majority of the gaming community that: the better the graphics, the better the games, whether or not we choose to agree is another point entirely.

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#116 Shiggums
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I don't really care about graphics. They make a game look better, more presentable, but they don't make a game good, and that's what I'm looking for :D

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#117 skp_16
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Another thing...

I don't really need new consoles, I want new games. If GTA4, MGS4, RE5, and other sequels will be available for PS2 (which is not going to happen), I won't bother buying PS3/XBOX360.

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#118 gokuofheaven
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it all comes down to what the game is. You can't present a horror title without the realistic feel of the mood and atmosphere. That's just one random example...
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#119 Half-Ghost
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Graphics are sort of important, but not as important as gameplay.