After watching killzone.... All other FPS's look like PS2 games ....

I'm serious... ok maybe not halo, UT3 or Haze but seriously, stuff like Call of Duty 4, blacksite area 51, medal of honor,.... i can't get past they are ps3 because simply watching the killzone trailer made some games look humiliating to be on the ps3. I mean seriously i thought lair looked AMAZING going into e3 and then watching the killzone trailer.... lair looked meh...

But seriously.... if you watch CoD 4 you can see the horrible fire textures etc and scripted animations.... Especially the deaths too. Again, no physics at all in the game and hundreds of jaggies.

Watching that killzone e3 trailer really set the new bar of what Next-gen SHOULD look like. who else thinks this?

btw here's the FULL gameplay from e3... its not cut off so enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7APPge9mDUM

i don't think Halo 3 looked very good at all...

but yet Killzone looks rediculous!

I'm serious... ok maybe not halo, UT3 or Haze but seriously, stuff like Call of Duty 4, blacksite area 51, medal of honor,.... i can't get past they are ps3 because simply watching the killzone trailer made some games look humiliating to be on the ps3. I mean seriously i thought lair looked AMAZING going into e3 and then watching the killzone trailer.... lair looked meh...

But seriously.... if you watch CoD 4 you can see the horrible fire textures etc and scripted animations.... Especially the deaths too. Again, no physics at all in the game and hundreds of jaggies.

Watching that killzone e3 trailer really set the new bar of what Next-gen SHOULD look like. who else thinks this?

btw here's the FULL gameplay from e3... its not cut off so enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7APPge9mDUM

junk56

I dont think killzone 2 makes all other games look last gen but they do look inferior to killzone 2.

and killzone 2 rag dolls effects MAKE other game ragdolls LOOK LAST GEN.

Killzone 2 graphics are BETTER than halo 3. if you say halo 3 graphics are better, your eyes are worthless.

I'm serious... ok maybe not halo, UT3 or Haze but seriously, stuff like Call of Duty 4, blacksite area 51, medal of honor,.... i can't get past they are ps3 because simply watching the killzone trailer made some games look humiliating to be on the ps3. I mean seriously i thought lair looked AMAZING going into e3 and then watching the killzone trailer.... lair looked meh...

But seriously.... if you watch CoD 4 you can see the horrible fire textures etc and scripted animations.... Especially the deaths too. Again, no physics at all in the game and hundreds of jaggies.

Watching that killzone e3 trailer really set the new bar of what Next-gen SHOULD look like. who else thinks this?

btw here's the FULL gameplay from e3... its not cut off so enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7APPge9mDUM

how incorrect are you cod4 and halo 3 look just as good i watched the e3 gameplay and its may look great but you have exaggerated your opinion.

junk56

[QUOTE="junk56"]

I'm serious... ok maybe not halo, UT3 or Haze but seriously, stuff like Call of Duty 4, blacksite area 51, medal of honor,.... i can't get past they are ps3 because simply watching the killzone trailer made some games look humiliating to be on the ps3. I mean seriously i thought lair looked AMAZING going into e3 and then watching the killzone trailer.... lair looked meh...

But seriously.... if you watch CoD 4 you can see the horrible fire textures etc and scripted animations.... Especially the deaths too. Again, no physics at all in the game and hundreds of jaggies.

Watching that killzone e3 trailer really set the new bar of what Next-gen SHOULD look like. who else thinks this?

btw here's the FULL gameplay from e3... its not cut off so enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7APPge9mDUM

mantisybza

I dont think killzone 2 makes all other games look last gen but they do look inferior to killzone 2.

and killzone 2 rag dolls effects MAKE other game ragdolls LOOK LAST GEN.

Killzone 2 graphics are BETTER than halo 3. if you say halo 3 graphics are better, your eyes are worthless.

[QUOTE="mantisybza"][QUOTE="junk56"]

I'm serious... ok maybe not halo, UT3 or Haze but seriously, stuff like Call of Duty 4, blacksite area 51, medal of honor,.... i can't get past they are ps3 because simply watching the killzone trailer made some games look humiliating to be on the ps3. I mean seriously i thought lair looked AMAZING going into e3 and then watching the killzone trailer.... lair looked meh...

But seriously.... if you watch CoD 4 you can see the horrible fire textures etc and scripted animations.... Especially the deaths too. Again, no physics at all in the game and hundreds of jaggies.

Watching that killzone e3 trailer really set the new bar of what Next-gen SHOULD look like. who else thinks this?

btw here's the FULL gameplay from e3... its not cut off so enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7APPge9mDUM

gizmo_logix

I dont think killzone 2 makes all other games look last gen but they do look inferior to killzone 2.

and killzone 2 rag dolls effects MAKE other game ragdolls LOOK LAST GEN.

Killzone 2 graphics are BETTER than halo 3. if you say halo 3 graphics are better, your eyes are worthless.

Im sure Halo 3 is looking beautiful but i like KZ2 looks alot better, it gives a more realistic, warzone look as halo is more on a jungle, forest looking enviorment not saying there anything wrong with that its jsut KZ2 art direction appeals to me more.

Killzone isnt even in the Beta phase yet so its going to get better, not neccesarily graphically but graphics, ai, etc will be better if its that graphically nice and has insane gameplay it wil be a AAAA with out a doubt!a476869

oh god...

i don't think Halo 3 looked very good at all...

but yet Killzone looks rediculous!

Sambo234

Lol i think COD4 is looking to be one of the better graphical FPS games out there. As for KZ2? No way in hell. I thought it didnt even look too much better than Resistance graphics wise. And the gameplay doesn't look there either. Don't get your hopes up!krp008

Taken thats its only in Pre-alpha stage and that it can only get better, Im going to get as hyped as I want just like I was with Halo 2 so dont be a party pooper and message in these threads,

after watching Crysis i cant remember what game we were talking about

COD4 looks better

after watching Crysis i cant remember what game we were talking about

COD4 looks better

exclusiveburner

Ok Cyrsis is using DX10 and 9 so that cant compare with any console game given, but im not spending much $$ to re con my computer to play one game, and COD4 looks amazing but physics and lighting wont touch KZ.

COD4 looks way better than Killzone 2. Halo 3 looks awsome as well, and MGS4 looks better as well.PowerFiend

go away fanboy

vs

[QUOTE="PowerFiend"]COD4 looks way better than Killzone 2. Halo 3 looks awsome as well, and MGS4 looks better as well.Sambo234

go away fanboy

vs

Lol open your eyes and quit hyping any game thats exclusive to the PS3! The developers of KZ2 don't even know what a good game is, so why even hype it? Wait until it releases, then decide. You PS3 only owners want a "Halo" so bad for your only system that you are going out on the limb hyping up a sequel to a 6.9 rated game. Come on! There are better games to hype. Leave this one alone until you are sure it's a winner

But seriously.... if you watch CoD 4 you can see the horrible fire textures etc and scripted animations.... Especially the deaths too.

junk56

Really? I thought the fire effects and scripted animations in Killzone 2 didn't look that great either. But then again, most of the trailer was filled with just scripted animations.

[QUOTE="junk56"]But seriously.... if you watch CoD 4 you can see the horrible fire textures etc and scripted animations.... Especially the deaths too.

Ultra-Alue

Really? I thought the fire effects and scripted animations in Killzone 2 didn't look that great either. But then again, most of the trailer was filled with just scripted animations.

scripted animations called gameplay... oh ok

ok ok sry guys i insulted CoD4 but personally i seriously don't think it looks that great. the more i watch killzone, the better it looks. Ok just download the PS3 sizzle video on the PSN and watch the first part with COD4 playing. There is no way in hell it looks better than killzone... if you just watch the youtube videos then you might think COD4 looks equally as good but killzone.....man it looks out of this world.

no offense but i can't see myself forking oer 80 bucks on call of duty knowing it'll be over in a mere 5 hours... Killzone has potential though and watching the trailer and knowing there are actually double the amoutn of animations supposedly to be put in the game...... You know devs worked really hard on it and that is usually what makes a good game.

[QUOTE="Ultra-Alue"][QUOTE="junk56"]But seriously.... if you watch CoD 4 you can see the horrible fire textures etc and scripted animations.... Especially the deaths too.

Sambo234

Really? I thought the fire effects and scripted animations in Killzone 2 didn't look that great either. But then again, most of the trailer was filled with just scripted animations.

scripted animations called gameplay... oh ok

Oh yeah, besides the parts where you see Helghast with miniguns shooting at the player but missing by about 90 degrees. Oh and the parts where you see all the jaggies on the gun whenever it's held in front of a well lighted area. I loved that. Man.. talk about next gen. This game looks so X-Treme!

And I also loved how the player couldn't seem to really aim his gun. Yeah. That was pretty dang awesome right there. But seriously, who needs to implment good controls when a game looks very pretty? I mean it couldn't have been the players fault. He was probably one of the people who designed it, they probably just designed it that way.

"to hell with head shots, I'm just gonna barely aim my gun at their lower body, that will impress the crowd more"

killzone seems overratedny_number1

That it does. I would like to play it for myself. Guerrilla knows how to make get looking games (Killzone and ShellShock were awesome looking games for there time) but they seem to hard time making there games play right.

[QUOTE="Sambo234"][QUOTE="Ultra-Alue"][QUOTE="junk56"]But seriously.... if you watch CoD 4 you can see the horrible fire textures etc and scripted animations.... Especially the deaths too.

Ultra-Alue

Really? I thought the fire effects and scripted animations in Killzone 2 didn't look that great either. But then again, most of the trailer was filled with just scripted animations.

scripted animations called gameplay... oh ok

Oh yeah, besides the parts where you see Helghast with miniguns shooting at the player but missing by about 90 degrees. Oh and the parts where you see all the jaggies on the gun whenever it's held in front of a well lighted area. I loved that. Man.. talk about next gen. This game looks so X-Treme!

And I also loved how the player couldn't seem to really aim his gun. Yeah. That was pretty dang awesome right there. But seriously, who needs to implment good controls when a game looks very pretty? I mean it couldn't have been the players fault. He was probably one of the people who designed it, they probably just designed it that way.

"to hell with head shots, I'm just gonna barely aim my gun at their lower body, that will impress the crowd more"

haha, sounds like Ultra-Alue's in deep denial. NO ONE can downplay killzone 2 (graphically at least)and manage to conceal bias or denial. not afterthat trailer, sorry

killzone seems overratedny_number1

Killzone is over rated and gets far too much attention because it's a by the numbers kind of first person shooter. It fails to bring anything new to the table when it comes to innovation or making any type of progress in the first person genre as a whole. Chances are Killzone 2 will just be another pretty shooter that plays like anything you've played before in the last couple of years.

If they get their stuff right, Killzone 2 could be great. Superb? Innovative? I really doubt it. But a by the numbers, forgettable, but fun game to play. While you wait for something really worthwhile.

haha, sounds like Ultra-Alue isn't impressed with pretty graphics and average looking gameplay that has been done years before Killzone 2's release.

xxxkylexxx1

Fix'd.

COD4 looks way better than Killzone 2. Halo 3 looks awsome as well, and MGS4 looks better as well.PowerFiend

I know people have their opinions, but I strongly disagree. Halo 3 looks like Halo 2 with higher res and maybe some graphical improvements here and there, COD4 looks good, but not WAY better than KZ2. I think KZ2 looks a lot better than COD4 and it's only in alpha stages so it'll just get better from here on.

KZ uses heavy post process effects to hide alot of it's flaws, such as depth of field, blurring constantly, a dark world with a 2 tone color pallete, the list goes on. The textures aren't the best either, and the shadows aren't amazing.PowerFiend

Too true. Right now Killzone 2's biggest strengths are the amount of polygons it uses in it's character models. Which is impressive. And another nice touch is that the enviroments are filled with obstacles and things to take cover behind, so you shouldn't be running around giant empty rooms. Which can be considered a good or bad thing, depending on how good the friendly AI is because you may find yourself being trapped by your friends just because they don't know when to move or get out of your way.

Another thing to consider is the scope of Killzone 2, while we only saw one level it's fairly easy to tell what the game will be like. Games like Halo 3 are less detailed then Killzone 2 because it deals with large immersive areas with tons of space. Killzone 2 looks like you will mostly be dealing with the Helghast in tight industrial style areas and more claustrophobic enviroments. Something like Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3, or FEAR. Hopefully they offer more variety. But it'd be nothing we haven't seen before most likely.

COD4 looks way better than Killzone 2. Halo 3 looks awsome as well, and MGS4 looks better as well.PowerFiend

First of all, you picked a screen that isn't game play. Show me a first person shot, that is half way decent, don't use the **** picture you can find. Secondly, how am I a fan boy when I'm saying that COD4, which is a multi-platform game, looks better than Killzone 2? I also said that MGS4 looks better than Killzone 2, which in my opinion, it does. KZ uses heavy post process effects to hide alot of it's flaws, such as depth of field, blurring constantly, a dark world with a 2 tone color pallete, the list goes on. The textures aren't the best either, and the shadows aren't amazing. COD4 has way better shadows. Alot of games surpass or equal KZ2 in my opinion. Heres a list: Mass Effect, Crysis, Cod 4, MGS4, Assasin's Creed, Halo 3, GEOW, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted Drakes Fortune, UT3, even Bioshock. Sure Killzone looks good, just as good as some of the games I mentioned, but in no way does it surpass them. I think you are just a little excited because you saw the first gameplay video, and are fooling yourself into thinking that it's the greatest thing in the world, when clearly, there are alot of other games that look just as good or better.PowerFiend

you're a fanboy, simple as that.

[QUOTE="PowerFiend"]KZ uses heavy post process effects to hide alot of it's flaws, such as depth of field, blurring constantly, a dark world with a 2 tone color pallete, the list goes on. The textures aren't the best either, and the shadows aren't amazing.Ultra-Alue

Too true. Right now Killzone 2's biggest strengths are the amount of polygons it uses in it's character models. Which is impressive. And another nice touch is that the enviroments are filled with obstacles and things to take cover behind, so you shouldn't be running around giant empty rooms. Which can be considered a good or bad thing, depending on how good the friendly AI is because you may find yourself being trapped by your friends just because they don't know when to move or get out of your way.

Another thing to consider is the scope of Killzone 2, while we only saw one level it's fairly easy to tell what the game will be like. Games like Halo 3 are less detailed then Killzone 2 because it deals with large immersive areas with tons of space. Killzone 2 looks like you will mostly be dealing with the Helghast in tight industrial style areas and more claustrophobic enviroments. Something like Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3, or FEAR. Hopefully they offer more variety. But it'd be nothing we haven't seen before most likely.

come on man, you've seen one level and you're already making huge generalizations and accusations of the game. wait till you actually the the levels till you become so critical.

Just because Killzone is going to be set in more Urab environments, that doesn't mean there won't be open spaces.

COD4 looks way better than Killzone 2.PowerFiend

Aside from the setting, there's really nothing new about this game. It's just some shiny guns and the usual s****y ragdoll effects.

[QUOTE="Ultra-Alue"]

[QUOTE="PowerFiend"]KZ uses heavy post process effects to hide alot of it's flaws, such as depth of field, blurring constantly, a dark world with a 2 tone color pallete, the list goes on. The textures aren't the best either, and the shadows aren't amazing.Sambo234

Too true. Right now Killzone 2's biggest strengths are the amount of polygons it uses in it's character models. Which is impressive. And another nice touch is that the enviroments are filled with obstacles and things to take cover behind, so you shouldn't be running around giant empty rooms. Which can be considered a good or bad thing, depending on how good the friendly AI is because you may find yourself being trapped by your friends just because they don't know when to move or get out of your way.

Another thing to consider is the scope of Killzone 2, while we only saw one level it's fairly easy to tell what the game will be like. Games like Halo 3 are less detailed then Killzone 2 because it deals with large immersive areas with tons of space. Killzone 2 looks like you will mostly be dealing with the Helghast in tight industrial style areas and more claustrophobic enviroments. Something like Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3, or FEAR. Hopefully they offer more variety. But it'd be nothing we haven't seen before most likely.

come on man, you've seen one level and you're already making huge generalizations and accusations of the game. wait till you actually the the levels till you become so critical.

Well considering how you are doing the exact same thing, I think it's only fair.

I mean you've only seen a minute of footage. ZOMG BEST GAME EVER!

How am I a fanboy if I listed 4 or 5 PS3 games that also surpass KZ2? Not just that, but I'm saying multiplatform games look better than KX2 which are on the PS3 not just on the 360.PowerFiend

because you're trying to downplay the game potential of a PS3 exclusive, thats why.

[QUOTE="PowerFiend"]COD4 looks way better than Killzone 2. Halo 3 looks awsome as well, and MGS4 looks better as well.Lilith_n_Belial

Well considering how you are doing the exact same thing, I think it's only fair.

I mean you've only seen a minute of footage. ZOMG BEST GAME EVER!

Ultra-Alue

He's not the one making snap judgements about the environment, so...

[QUOTE="Sambo234"][QUOTE="Ultra-Alue"]

[QUOTE="PowerFiend"]KZ uses heavy post process effects to hide alot of it's flaws, such as depth of field, blurring constantly, a dark world with a 2 tone color pallete, the list goes on. The textures aren't the best either, and the shadows aren't amazing.Ultra-Alue

Too true. Right now Killzone 2's biggest strengths are the amount of polygons it uses in it's character models. Which is impressive. And another nice touch is that the enviroments are filled with obstacles and things to take cover behind, so you shouldn't be running around giant empty rooms. Which can be considered a good or bad thing, depending on how good the friendly AI is because you may find yourself being trapped by your friends just because they don't know when to move or get out of your way.

Another thing to consider is the scope of Killzone 2, while we only saw one level it's fairly easy to tell what the game will be like. Games like Halo 3 are less detailed then Killzone 2 because it deals with large immersive areas with tons of space. Killzone 2 looks like you will mostly be dealing with the Helghast in tight industrial style areas and more claustrophobic enviroments. Something like Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3, or FEAR. Hopefully they offer more variety. But it'd be nothing we haven't seen before most likely.

come on man, you've seen one level and you're already making huge generalizations and accusations of the game. wait till you actually the the levels till you become so critical.

Well considering how you are doing the exact same thing, I think it's only fair.

I mean you've only seen a minute of footage. ZOMG BEST GAME EVER!

well I can tell you from what I've seen I like, but you also can't just assume what the rest of the game is going to have or where it's going to take place. I can tell you, from the plot, gameplay, and graphical impressions so far, I am very excited about this game.

by the way, why is no one mentioning Fracture, the game looks like its going to be really fun. (zomg multiplat)

[QUOTE="PowerFiend"]How am I a fanboy if I listed 4 or 5 PS3 games that also surpass KZ2? Not just that, but I'm saying multiplatform games look better than KX2 which are on the PS3 not just on the 360.Sambo234

because you're trying to downplay the game potential of a PS3 exclusive, thats why.

[QUOTE="Ultra-Alue"]Well considering how you are doing the exact same thing, I think it's only fair.

I mean you've only seen a minute of footage. ZOMG BEST GAME EVER!

Pariah_001

He's not the one making snap judgements about the environment, so...

I'm just thinking they should have offered more variety in the levels they briefly showcased in that trailer.

And most FPS have a trend of doing that lately.

[QUOTE="Sambo234"]

[QUOTE="PowerFiend"]How am I a fanboy if I listed 4 or 5 PS3 games that also surpass KZ2? Not just that, but I'm saying multiplatform games look better than KX2 which are on the PS3 not just on the 360.PowerFiend

because you're trying to downplay the game potential of a PS3 exclusive, thats why.

and I'm telling you that I think you're a fanboy because I honestly think you have to have a visual impairment to legitimately think that... unless your eyes are biased too.