Agree or Disagree?(MGS4 related) *SPOILERS WARNING*

This fight is like the best fight in gaming history and it's sooooooooooooooooooooo well cinematically done and the acting is pretty pretty awesome! Do you agree it's one of the most EPIC scenes in gaming yes or no? I have played MANY MANY GAMES man but seriously this scene from start to end was like a "ZOMG is this for real" moment to me.

The part where he yells " LIQUUUUUID" gives me weird GOOSE BUMPS!

Watch it!

The other reason I AAA'd this game. That fight right there. I wish Fighting games would steal some of their ideas for that fight.Symphonycometh

That's what brought my attention man. It's not a fighting game but DAMN the whole scene is PRETTY WELL DONE and the music that plays in the end(Metal Gear SAGA) fits pretty much well though I wish it was the main theme of MGS that we all knew and loved and that was used in previous MGS games.

lol, yeah

THANK YOU! Someone else knows what I was talking about! Where was that theme that we all know! T_T After spamming and drawing out Metal Gear Saga to no end, I went back to MGS2's Opening theme to further wonder why they hadn't used the theme. :cry:Symphonycometh

Long story my friend. I am in the process of creating a long MGS4 story montage. I'll make sure to put it there in the music and make it fit. It's going to be an awesome story montage! Trust me.

The fight between Raiden and Vamp was much more exciting.javelin121

are you on drugs?

are you on drugs?helysandoval

You talking to me pal?

[QUOTE="helysandoval"]are you on drugs?AgentH

You talking to me pal?

No he's talking to the guy who thinks the Raiden and Vamp battle is more exciting than this battle probably because with all the fancy moves and stuff like that.

The athletics in the Vamp vs Raiden fight were increbile! Especially when Raiden had the wires from the Gekkos attached to his legs and started to spin upside down.javelin121

I think he was talking about the fight on top of Metal Gear REX.

I'm not saying the cqc fight wasn't good. I just prefer fights with over the top moves. javelin121

It's not just you, most people do...

I agree with you, It gave me goosebumps too, its a very hard thing to implie into something thats just a 'video game' but for me Kojimas done it on all of them. I also like the part where Snake gets his face burnt and shouts "Otacooooon"Dantinho

Man THAT part with the OTACON shouting and the whole scene with Snake holding Eva and Ocelot going "BAM!" made me jump from my chair saying, "it's 20/10 not just a 10!!!" and especially this scene where Snake and Ocelot at the Volta fights and Ocelot painfully penetrates the knife into Snake's right shoulder and then grab Snake's head and put it on his and the camera zooms in closely! OMG! but the fight with Ocelot and Snake in the end, no words to describe it.

I'm not saying the cqc fight wasn't good. I just prefer fights with over the top moves. javelin121

[QUOTE="helysandoval"]are you on drugs?AgentH

You talking to me pal?

[QUOTE="AgentH"]

[QUOTE="helysandoval"]are you on drugs?zeriva

You talking to me pal?

No he's talking to the guy who thinks the Raiden and Vamp battle is more exciting than this battle probably because with all the fancy moves and stuff like that.

To be honest all the fights in MGS4 were pretty good. But the thing about the last fight on the top of Haven is that history between those 2 men is DEEP and both went through alot! When Snake shouts "LIQUID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" it's as if he was trying to express something else which is close to "ALL THESE YEARS WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING TO DEATH!! I'm FED UP!!!! WHY DON'T YOU JUST DIE!!!!!!!" and Ocelot in return shouts "SNAKE!!!!!" which is a reply to Snake's shouting and which has the same meaning.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]THANK YOU! Someone else knows what I was talking about! Where was that theme that we all know! T_T After spamming and drawing out Metal Gear Saga to no end, I went back to MGS2's Opening theme to further wonder why they hadn't used the theme. :cry:AgentH

Long story my friend. I am in the process of creating a long MGS4 story montage. I'll make sure to put it there in the music and make it fit. It's going to be an awesome story montage! Trust me.

[QUOTE="zeriva"][QUOTE="AgentH"]

[QUOTE="helysandoval"]are you on drugs?AgentH

You talking to me pal?

No he's talking to the guy who thinks the Raiden and Vamp battle is more exciting than this battle probably because with all the fancy moves and stuff like that.

To be honest all the fights in MGS4 were pretty good. But the thing about the last fight on the top of Haven is that history between those 2 men is DEEP and both went through alot! When Snake says "LIQUID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" it's as if he was trying to express something else which is close to "ALL THESE YEARS WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING TO DEATH!! I'm FED UP!!!! WHY DON'T YOU JUST DIE!!!!!!!" and Ocelot in return shouts "SNAKE!!!!!" which is a reply to Snake's shouting and which has the same meaning.

Damn man, you're deep. :lol:

But what you just described about this fight is probably true...

I'm not saying the cqc fight wasn't good. I just prefer fights with over the top moves. javelin121

[QUOTE="zeriva"][QUOTE="AgentH"]

[QUOTE="helysandoval"]are you on drugs?AgentH

You talking to me pal?

No he's talking to the guy who thinks the Raiden and Vamp battle is more exciting than this battle probably because with all the fancy moves and stuff like that.

To be honest all the fights in MGS4 were pretty good. But the thing about the last fight on the top of Haven is that history between those 2 men is DEEP and both went through alot! When Snake says "LIQUID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" it's as if he was trying to express something else which is close to "ALL THESE YEARS WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING TO DEATH!! I'm FED UP!!!! WHY DON'T YOU JUST DIE!!!!!!!" and Ocelot in return shouts "SNAKE!!!!!" which is a reply to Snake's shouting and which has the same meaning.

So I'm one of the losers who voted no, but my reason is because the fight with Boss to me felt more epic especially on that white field. Plus I had to repeat that fight so many freaking times.lextexrex

Every MGS had its uniqueness so did MGS3 and MGS3 had alot of epic scenes much like most MGS games and I have to agree that BOSS scene in the flower field was like REALLY emotionally especially when Snake asks her "Boss, why are you doing this?" and when he said that, I repeated after him, "Seriously WHY THE HELL ARE YOU DOING THIS? Can't you just the 2 of you get back together!?". Anyway, since you voted no because you thought another scene in another MGS was more epic than I'm fine with it. As long as it's MGS. :P I'm not a fanboy, ok?

[QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="zeriva"][QUOTE="AgentH"]

[QUOTE="helysandoval"]are you on drugs?helysandoval

You talking to me pal?

No he's talking to the guy who thinks the Raiden and Vamp battle is more exciting than this battle probably because with all the fancy moves and stuff like that.

To be honest all the fights in MGS4 were pretty good. But the thing about the last fight on the top of Haven is that history between those 2 men is DEEP and both went through alot! When Snake says "LIQUID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" it's as if he was trying to express something else which is close to "ALL THESE YEARS WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING TO DEATH!! I'm FED UP!!!! WHY DON'T YOU JUST DIE!!!!!!!" and Ocelot in return shouts "SNAKE!!!!!" which is a reply to Snake's shouting and which has the same meaning.

When he shouted, I felt the energy and I got mad and wanted to get into the fight and help Snake! That's the "Physical interaction with the Player" that Kojima brought to us in all of the MGS games and that's BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL. Read more here:

Fourth wall broken. Physical interaction with the player

Notice the games that are listed. :P Kojima is a genius.

I think this physical interaction with players thing should be something all game devs should opt towards, I find it thrilling.Dantinho

As far as physical interaction with players goes, one has to mention the best example, Psycho Mantis. 10 years ago, the dude freaked me out! to be honest I was amazed and freaked out at the same time because it was the first time I see games doing this kind of stuff.

[QUOTE="Dantinho"]I think this physical interaction with players thing should be something all game devs should opt towards, I find it thrilling.AgentH

As far as physical interaction with players goes, one has to mention the best example, Psycho Mantis. 10 years ago, the dude freaked me out! to be honest I was amazed and freaked out at the same time because it was the first time I see games doing this kind of stuff.

I agree, but the way people go on about the lenghty cutscenes, It makes me feel like i'm the only one who dosnt mind putting down the controller and enjoying them. One of my fondest memories of MGS1 has when Snake was inside the prison cell and he has a lenghty codac call with Naomi.

[QUOTE="AgentH"]

[QUOTE="Dantinho"]I think this physical interaction with players thing should be something all game devs should opt towards, I find it thrilling.Dantinho

As far as physical interaction with players goes, one has to mention the best example, Psycho Mantis. 10 years ago, the dude freaked me out! to be honest I was amazed and freaked out at the same time because it was the first time I see games doing this kind of stuff.

I agree, but the way people go on about the lenghty cutscenes, It makes me feel like i'm the only one who dosnt mind putting down the controller and enjoying them. One of my fondest memories of MGS1 has when Snake was inside the prison cell and he has a lenghty codac call with Naomi.

Omg, you have no idea, you just stole the words out of my mouth. I always enjoy cutscenes so that I can just put down the controller, take a break for a little bit, and watch what happens in the story.

[QUOTE="AgentH"]

[QUOTE="Dantinho"]I think this physical interaction with players thing should be something all game devs should opt towards, I find it thrilling.Dantinho

As far as physical interaction with players goes, one has to mention the best example, Psycho Mantis. 10 years ago, the dude freaked me out! to be honest I was amazed and freaked out at the same time because it was the first time I see games doing this kind of stuff.

I agree, but the way people go on about the lenghty cutscenes, It makes me feel like i'm the only one who dosnt mind putting down the controller and enjoying them. One of my fondest memories of MGS1 has when Snake was inside the prison cell and he has a lenghty codac call with Naomi.

Dude of course you're not the only one. To be honest, I thought MGS4 cutscenes were short. But that's just me.

[QUOTE="Dantinho"][QUOTE="AgentH"]

[QUOTE="Dantinho"]I think this physical interaction with players thing should be something all game devs should opt towards, I find it thrilling.AgentH

As far as physical interaction with players goes, one has to mention the best example, Psycho Mantis. 10 years ago, the dude freaked me out! to be honest I was amazed and freaked out at the same time because it was the first time I see games doing this kind of stuff.

I agree, but the way people go on about the lenghty cutscenes, It makes me feel like i'm the only one who dosnt mind putting down the controller and enjoying them. One of my fondest memories of MGS1 has when Snake was inside the prison cell and he has a lenghty codac call with Naomi.

Dude of course you're not the only one. To be honest, I thought MGS4 cutscenes were short. But that's just me.

I didn't think they were short but I did hope for long ones before the game was released and I guess I was satisfied from them. I just hate the way people acted like they were all supprised by the lengh, MGS has always been the same. Its the only way they can tell such a right out amazing story.

[QUOTE="AgentH"]

[QUOTE="Dantinho"]I think this physical interaction with players thing should be something all game devs should opt towards, I find it thrilling.Dantinho

As far as physical interaction with players goes, one has to mention the best example, Psycho Mantis. 10 years ago, the dude freaked me out! to be honest I was amazed and freaked out at the same time because it was the first time I see games doing this kind of stuff.

I agree, but the way people go on about the lenghty cutscenes, It makes me feel like i'm the only one who dosnt mind putting down the controller and enjoying them. One of my fondest memories of MGS1 has when Snake was inside the prison cell and he has a lenghty codac call with Naomi.

That was the most epic scene in all of MGS history. I agree. It gave me goosebumps as well and not to lie or anything, I think I felt a tear roll down from my eye by watching it again, which I'm a fan of the MGS series. No other game could top that. PERIOD!!!

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