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I read reviews on the Z4100 before I bought my XBR4 and it got lower scores than the XBR4 on all the websites I read. Still a great TV, but the XBR4/XBR5s are still the top dog Sony TVs, that is until the XBR6/7/8 series comes out in a few months. About the colors, it's my camera. The color is alot better in person. I cant find a good autosetting on the camea for taking pictures of the screen. And yes, I'm from Toronto.

Someguy2055

I think the XBR6 is already out, but it doesn't come in anything bigger than 37 inches

I like CNET. They said the XBR4 outperforms any LCD they've tested. But it doesnt matter. You're entitled to your opinion. I game and watch movies on the TV and they both look great. I'm more than happy with it. Someguy2055

ya but do you realize the xbr4 came out in 2007? they were talking about it for its time,obviously not comparing it to the newer models. Read the a650 bs review. They gave it an 8 just like the xbr4 and said its better and it really isnt even close based on what i saw. Same is true with the Z. Im not saying its a worse TV. They have their advantages and disadvantages but im just pointing out the advantages the Z has are more beneficial for gaming than xbr4 which makes it better for a gaming TV. I have both in my house so trust me. Anyway enjoy,nice setup.

[QUOTE="Someguy2055"]

I read reviews on the Z4100 before I bought my XBR4 and it got lower scores than the XBR4 on all the websites I read. Still a great TV, but the XBR4/XBR5s are still the top dog Sony TVs, that is until the XBR6/7/8 series comes out in a few months. About the colors, it's my camera. The color is alot better in person. I cant find a good autosetting on the camea for taking pictures of the screen. And yes, I'm from Toronto.

CSI24

I think the XBR6 is already out, but it doesn't come in anything bigger than 37 inches

yes the XBR6 is out but the 32-37 inch Tv's are always made lower end then the bigger sizes starting from 40" and above. For the small size class its top of the line now but they still cant be compared to the larger sizes for specs. The 40xbr6 hasnt come out yet but when it does it will be much better than the 37xbr6. Right now the 37xbr6 is only equal in specs to the lowly 40V4100....nothin special.

Oh okay. I guess just the XBR7/8 then. Those will be awesome, although I think the XBR4/XBR5 still has the best styling. Love the floating glass border. Someguy2055

ya thats true. Right now the Z/xbr4/5/xbr6 (comin out soon in larger sizes) are all very similar for overall picture quality/colors/detail. But the xbr7/8 with BE2 pro/ex engine and LED backlights will just blow everything else away.....oh well cant always keep up with technology,thats life.

I understand what you're saying about my TV being reviewed in 2007. But unlike most websites, CNET updates their reviews every few months. The XBR4 used to be an 8.4/10 but was lowered to an even 8 after newer models come up. Even with the new models it says "The XBR4 outpreforms any LCD we've tested". This is an overall. I'm sure there are parts of the Z4100 that are better than the XBR4 just as there are parts of the XBR4 that are better than the Z4100. Neither TV is bad, obviously. But here is the quote from CNET that turned me toward the XBR rather than the Z series.

Sony's well-featured, smartly styled KDL-46Z4100 performs well enough, but its picture doesn't match that of the best LCDs.

It's not just about numbers. The Z4100 has a contrast of 30,000:1 while the XBR4 has one of 18,000:1. But apparently the XBR4 has more accurate colors, possibly because the XBR series is Sonys top of the line and maybe the parts are of higher quality. And according to that review, the W series (lower series than Z) has better black levels.

We're not sure why the Z4100 would have worse black levels than its less-expensive cousin, and both have the same specifications, but that's what we observed after carefully calibrating both (along with the rest of the sets in our comparison, as always).

I guess it would depend on the settings for each set, what material you're playing (movies or games, etc) and a bunch of other factors. I dont take these comparisons too seriously, as I dont really think its possible to determine a bottom line "better" TV as there are too may variables. Both TVs are very good and that's all that matters, right?

???

Seriously, what are you getting worked up about? I find it ironic how you call their reviews BS then you try to tell me I'm wrong with a quote from their "BS review". I find it really sad how far you're going to try to prove me wrong after I've kept this conversation mature. Read my above post. Here. Read this:

I guess it would depend on the settings for each set, what material you're playing (movies or games, etc) and a bunch of other factors. I dont take these comparisons too seriously, as I dont really think its possible to determine a bottom line "better" TV as there are too may variables. Both TVs are very good and that's all that matters, right?

Grow up. If you their reviews are "BS" then dont quote their reviews to prove your point. If you do however, want to go by their reviews. I'll take the 8.0 over the 7.6 any day. ;)

Lol, relax dude.

Here's how's my seyup is going to be:

Panasonic PZ80

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-th42pz80b-review-20080514109.htm

6.1 Cerwin Vega HD63 Surround system

http://www.hifiklubben.com/image/products/SYSCV03_1_m.jpg

Yamah RX-V663 Surround receiver

http://www.yamaha-hifi.com/index.php?lang=e&country=DK&idcat1=1&idcat2=2

And the playstation 3.

I only need the tv to have everything :)

Atm i've just gotten this little samsung LE32R86 tv, so i'm eager to get the 42" plasma from panasonic :/

Lol, relax dude.

Here's how's my seyup is going to be:

Panasonic PZ80

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-th42pz80b-review-20080514109.htm

6.1 Cerwin Vega HD63 Surround system

http://www.hifiklubben.com/image/products/SYSCV03_1_m.jpg

Yamah RX-V663 Surround receiver

http://www.yamaha-hifi.com/index.php?lang=e&country=DK&idcat1=1&idcat2=2

And the playstation 3.

I only need the tv to have everything :)

Atm i've just gotten this little samsung LE32R86 tv, so i'm eager to get the 42" plasma from panasonic :/

danish-death

nice setup,is that a plasma? panasonic makes great plasmas from what ive heard good choice

Your Blu-ray BLOWS. 300 Is pretty much the only nice thing you have there. Everything else is garbage. What kind of sick *flash* keeps and watches SAW trilogy?

[QUOTE="danish-death"]

Lol, relax dude.

Here's how's my seyup is going to be:

Panasonic PZ80

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-th42pz80b-review-20080514109.htm

6.1 Cerwin Vega HD63 Surround system

http://www.hifiklubben.com/image/products/SYSCV03_1_m.jpg

Yamah RX-V663 Surround receiver

http://www.yamaha-hifi.com/index.php?lang=e&country=DK&idcat1=1&idcat2=2

And the playstation 3.

I only need the tv to have everything :)

Atm i've just gotten this little samsung LE32R86 tv, so i'm eager to get the 42" plasma from panasonic :/

Viper2847

nice setup,is that a plasma? panasonic makes great plasmas from what ive heard good choice

Good choice with the Panasonic. They are the 2nd best Plasma maker on the market behind Pioneer

[QUOTE="Prisoner1137"]

Your Blu-ray BLOWS. 300 Is pretty much the only nice thing you have there. Everything else is garbage. What kind of sick *flash* keeps and watches SAW trilogy? SceaduHyrde

xD Clearly, I Do. Although, until now, I didn't realise that your opinion was the only one on the planet matters. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways. ;)

P.S. There are 4 (FOUR) Saw movies there. Making it a quadrilogy. Not trilogy (3). Moron. :]

not tryin to be an ass im just givin this guy a suggestion that i thought he may like and he starts bein a dick about itViper2847

Uhmm.. I appriciate you trying to help, I guess? All I'm saying is that I trust CNET's reviews and some people from the AVS forums aren't going to convince me to believe otherwise. I understand if you're trying to help, but I'm more than happy with my TV and obviously, you're happy with yours. So lets not argue about it. I'm not going to go return my XBR4 and get a Z series. Btw, what do you have against Samsung TVs? They're pretty close to the Sony's PQ wise.

[QUOTE="danish-death"]

Lol, relax dude.

Here's how's my seyup is going to be:

Panasonic PZ80

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-th42pz80b-review-20080514109.htm

6.1 Cerwin Vega HD63 Surround system

http://www.hifiklubben.com/image/products/SYSCV03_1_m.jpg

Yamah RX-V663 Surround receiver

http://www.yamaha-hifi.com/index.php?lang=e&country=DK&idcat1=1&idcat2=2

And the playstation 3.

I only need the tv to have everything :)

Atm i've just gotten this little samsung LE32R86 tv, so i'm eager to get the 42" plasma from panasonic :/

Viper2847

nice setup,is that a plasma? panasonic makes great plasmas from what ive heard good choice

Yes, it is a plasma, the next best thing after pioneer.

Alot of people dont like Cerwin Vega, but this surround setup is awesome, and i only has it hooked up as a 2.1 system atm.

I can't wait to move in with my girlfriend and have all 6 speakers hooked up to the receiver, which btw also does a good job ;)

The only thing that i'm annoyed with is my samsung tv.

That's the sort of setup which puts my SD gaming to complete shame. Good job my friend ;)

Planning on upgrading to HD any time soon?

Planning on upgrading to HD any time soon?

Someguy2055

People who haven't already "upgraded" to HD gaming, doesn't know what they're missing.

I remember myself for a a couple of month ago, owning a 32" THomson SD tv, the upgrade was BIG :)

[QUOTE="Prisoner1137"]

Your Blu-ray BLOWS. 300 Is pretty much the only nice thing you have there. Everything else is garbage. What kind of sick *flash* keeps and watches SAW trilogy? SceaduHyrde

How can you say that when he has The Warriors and Terminator 2 in his collection those movies are mad! Looks like a horror movie buff but i agree with you on the SAW movies they sound terrible.

By the way this setup is awesome it really does inspire me to start saving money once my apprenticeship starts.

[QUOTE="SceaduHyrde"][QUOTE="Prisoner1137"]

Your Blu-ray BLOWS. 300 Is pretty much the only nice thing you have there. Everything else is garbage. What kind of sick *flash* keeps and watches SAW trilogy? damaster101

How can you say that when he has The Warriors and Terminator 2 in his collection those movies are mad! Looks like a horror movie buff but i agree with you on the SAW movies they sound terrible.

By the way this setup is awesome it really does inspire me to start saving money once my apprenticeship starts.

Yes, indeed i am a horror movie fan. And Terminator 2 is the greatest sequel of all time (along with Aliens), and is one of my favorites of all time. With regards to the horror movies, I dont always go into movies wanting some deep, thought provoking story. Sometimes it's just plain entertaining to watch people get owned in a variety ways for 90 minutes or so. :]

[QUOTE="damaster101"]

[QUOTE="SceaduHyrde"][QUOTE="Prisoner1137"]

Your Blu-ray BLOWS. 300 Is pretty much the only nice thing you have there. Everything else is garbage. What kind of sick *flash* keeps and watches SAW trilogy? Someguy2055

How can you say that when he has The Warriors and Terminator 2 in his collection those movies are mad! Looks like a horror movie buff but i agree with you on the SAW movies they sound terrible.

By the way this setup is awesome it really does inspire me to start saving money once my apprenticeship starts.

Yes, indeed i am a horror movie fan. And Terminator 2 is the greatest sequel of all time (along with Aliens), and is one of my favorites of all time. With regards to the horror movies, I dont always go into movies wanting some deep, thought provoking story. Sometimes it's just plain entertaining to watch people get owned in a variety ways for 90 minutes or so. :]

Haha i enjoy horror movies(especially zombies) i just can't get into horror movies like SAW where things just seem blatently ridiculous. I haven't actually watched it and am obviously not a high position to be making judgements but from the sounds of things i'm assuming its terrible.:P. But i do totally agree with on Terminator 2 it was quite the masterpiece.

Dude, dont quote all the pictures. Such a waste of space. Someguy2055

As is this thread :D...sorry, it's just somethin' that should be blogged IMO

[QUOTE="Someguy2055"]Dude, dont quote all the pictures. Such a waste of space. Leostatic

As is this thread :D...sorry, it's just somethin' that should be blogged IMO

Sweet setup man. Very clean looking too, no mess of cables showing, nice.

GreyFoXX4

[QUOTE="Someguy2055"]Dude, dont quote all the pictures. Such a waste of space. Leostatic

As is this thread :D...sorry, it's just somethin' that should be blogged IMO

Have a problem with it: "Blog it". Your logic. Not mine.Symphonycometh

Or... I could just lock it, since there is one thread set aside for this.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25380051

Please use that thread in the future. I realize it is not directly stickied, but it is mentioned very prominently in the main stickied thread for this board -- the one that says "Read this BEFORE Posting".

Thanks.