How Do You Feel About Nudity In Heavy Rain?

Meh, I didn't find it bad or good. It was just kind of there. I find nothing wrong with it, I don't think it was needed but I didn't think it was sleazy. I think there's a difference between nudity and bad nudity. The nudity they showed was fine. [spoiler] they could've made it worse with the sex scene between Ethan Mars and Madison Paige by showing certain things (I'm sure you get the picture) [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="Megaman5364"]

I don't feel bad or awkward about nudity I mean come on people they are just external organs

TheEldestGod

Horny

As a Soccer mom with an obsessive diet for vegetables and shoving omega-3 chicken down my children's throat as well as being stupidly over protective...

I AM ok with the nudity.

I'm just as surprised as you are.

I have absolutely no problem with it. The nudity was nothing that wouldn't have occurred outside of natural life aside from that in the club, and that fit perfectly well int he story/context, so no biggie. R rated movies have been showing full-blown nudity for decades now, bout time video games can step up to the plate and be respected as a form of media like films are. raven_squad

So the question is, why did they cover up some and not others? Why were others left uncovered? Is there some pattern you can see? Clearly: the men were covered, the women weren't. In other words, the whole "it was necessary for the story" or "it enhanced immersion" explanations are completely bs. It was a cynical marketing move and has no more depth and artistry to it than those neon signs outside strip clubs advertising "XXX nude girls!"clicketyclick

There is a socially acceptable level of nudity. Bums and boobs are fine (yes, don't forget you see Ethan's couch warmer within the first few minutes of playing).

It wasn't strictly necessary for the story telling but IMO it was definitely essential for the atmosphere of the game and the immersion in the story. It's in most movies and TV shows you see (even saw full frontal in Weeds the other night which was surprising) so why not games?

You're entitled to your opinion of course but I'm amazed at how strongly everyone feels that this was an issue. I didn't really notice it when playing and it was only when I came on here afterwards that I noticed so many people were against it.

Amazing. We can make a computer game about drowning little boys and torturing/killing Fathers and we have a problem with a couple of boobies and some bottoms being shown! lol.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"] So the question is, why did they cover up some and not others? Why were others left uncovered? Is there some pattern you can see? Clearly: the men were covered, the women weren't. In other words, the whole "it was necessary for the story" or "it enhanced immersion" explanations are completely bs. It was a cynical marketing move and has no more depth and artistry to it than those neon signs outside strip clubs advertising "XXX nude girls!"Chickan_117

There is a socially acceptable level of nudity. Bums and boobs are fine (yes, don't forget you see Ethan's couch warmer within the first few minutes of playing).

It wasn't strictly necessary for the story telling but IMO it was definitely essential for the atmosphere of the game and the immersion in the story. It's in most movies and TV shows you see (even saw full frontal in Weeds the other night which was surprising) so why not games?

You're entitled to your opinion of course but I'm amazed at how strongly everyone feels that this was an issue. I didn't really notice it when playing and it was only when I came on here afterwards that I noticed so many people were against it.

Amazing. We can make a computer game about drowning little boys and torturing/killing Fathers and we have a problem with a couple of boobies and some bottoms being shown! lol.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"] So the question is, why did they cover up some and not others? Why were others left uncovered? Is there some pattern you can see? Clearly: the men were covered, the women weren't. In other words, the whole "it was necessary for the story" or "it enhanced immersion" explanations are completely bs. It was a cynical marketing move and has no more depth and artistry to it than those neon signs outside strip clubs advertising "XXX nude girls!"Chickan_117

There is a socially acceptable level of nudity. Bums and boobs are fine (yes, don't forget you see Ethan's couch warmer within the first few minutes of playing).

It wasn't strictly necessary for the story telling but IMO it was definitely essential for the atmosphere of the game and the immersion in the story. It's in most movies and TV shows you see (even saw full frontal in Weeds the other night which was surprising) so why not games?

You're entitled to your opinion of course but I'm amazed at how strongly everyone feels that this was an issue. I didn't really notice it when playing and it was only when I came on here afterwards that I noticed so many people were against it.

Amazing. We can make a computer game about drowning little boys and torturing/killing Fathers and we have a problem with a couple of boobies and some bottoms being shown! lol.

How can you in a single reply allege that boobs are a socially acceptable level of nudity while also commenting about how strongly everyone feels that it's an issue. Seems to me that if you think "everyone feels that this was an issue", it's clearly not a socially acceptable level of nudity. If it were socially acceptable, there would be no fuss, right? Bums are socially acceptable levels of nudity. But boobs are considered private parts.

To tell you the truth, I'm much more okay with the actual sex scene in the game. Far less okay with Madison's shower and strip scenes. How was her shower scene essential for immersion? First of all, her shower had nothing to do with anything. Not with the story, not with her feelings. Nothing. What? Players need to see a girl's boobs before they can empathise with her? And second of all, how can it be more immersive when she totally doesn't use the shower or toilet like any normal female would. For me, it absolutely breaks immersion. She acts like a robotic character from the sims. No shampoo, no body wash, no shaving legs, no toilet paper, no washing hands... please. This isn't how women use the washroom. It's immersion-breaking.

And of course... the strip scene. Supposedly put in there to make you feel uncomfortable and feel bad and stuff along with Madison, and therefore enhance immersion and the story. But take one look around the internet at the comments about it. The response is nearly universally "wow, this is awesome watching a girl forced to dance naked in front of me! I love it! GOTY!" And it's this reaction more than the scene itself that makes me uncomfortable.

With or without the nudity, Heavy Rain is not a kid's game. I don't think it was necessary to add the nudity, but of course, it didn't detract from the experience.chrisPperson

It wasn't needed. It didn't drive the story any further or anything, but it's no different than an R rated movie.

Ospov

Agreed, I don't get why people say it drove the story or built on it. At least with the shower scene, I can understand the other two incidents were slightly related to the story. But I've noticed... how come you never see the prostitute naked yet you see the journalist naked several times. I think they need to switch jobs or something.

It adds realism so I was all for it.

I can't say that I feel it was necessary, but I didn't mind it. Those saying that it adds realism... in what way does it do that? The shower scene could have easily been done without showing thirty seconds of Madison's melons. The fact that it did only prods me to ask why they didn't just show everything? Regrdless, I neither knock nor praise the game for the nudity, I just think it felt out of place in a crime thriller such as this.

It's alright. I didn't jerk off or anything to it but it didn't really bother me. It's a mature game with or without the nudity, so it doesn't really matter.

brickdoctor

[QUOTE="Chickan_117"]

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"] So the question is, why did they cover up some and not others? Why were others left uncovered? Is there some pattern you can see? Clearly: the men were covered, the women weren't. In other words, the whole "it was necessary for the story" or "it enhanced immersion" explanations are completely bs. It was a cynical marketing move and has no more depth and artistry to it than those neon signs outside strip clubs advertising "XXX nude girls!"clicketyclick

There is a socially acceptable level of nudity. Bums and boobs are fine (yes, don't forget you see Ethan's couch warmer within the first few minutes of playing).

It wasn't strictly necessary for the story telling but IMO it was definitely essential for the atmosphere of the game and the immersion in the story. It's in most movies and TV shows you see (even saw full frontal in Weeds the other night which was surprising) so why not games?

You're entitled to your opinion of course but I'm amazed at how strongly everyone feels that this was an issue. I didn't really notice it when playing and it was only when I came on here afterwards that I noticed so many people were against it.

Amazing. We can make a computer game about drowning little boys and torturing/killing Fathers and we have a problem with a couple of boobies and some bottoms being shown! lol.

How can you in a single reply allege that boobs are a socially acceptable level of nudity while also commenting about how strongly everyone feels that it's an issue. Seems to me that if you think "everyone feels that this was an issue", it's clearly not a socially acceptable level of nudity. If it were socially acceptable, there would be no fuss, right? Bums are socially acceptable levels of nudity. But boobs are considered private parts.

To tell you the truth, I'm much more okay with the actual sex scene in the game. Far less okay with Madison's shower and strip scenes. How was her shower scene essential for immersion? First of all, her shower had nothing to do with anything. Not with the story, not with her feelings. Nothing. What? Players need to see a girl's boobs before they can empathise with her? And second of all, how can it be more immersive when she totally doesn't use the shower or toilet like any normal female would. For me, it absolutely breaks immersion. She acts like a robotic character from the sims. No shampoo, no body wash, no shaving legs, no toilet paper, no washing hands... please. This isn't how women use the washroom. It's immersion-breaking.

And of course... the strip scene. Supposedly put in there to make you feel uncomfortable and feel bad and stuff along with Madison, and therefore enhance immersion and the story. But take one look around the internet at the comments about it. The response is nearly universally "wow, this is awesome watching a girl forced to dance naked in front of me! I love it! GOTY!" And it's this reaction more than the scene itself that makes me uncomfortable.

I think you need to take a step back, chill out, and realize its just a video game. There is no controversy as to why they showed those scenes, it was thier game, they can show the scenes they want to show.

Your not okay with Madison's shower and strip scenes? There is a shower scene of Ethan at the start of the game, yet you dont have a problem with that? Is this just a gender thing? Maybe you should ring up Quantic Dream and tell them that "Madison didnt use shampoo, body wash or toilet paper, so therefor, its not immersive enough"...Please.

Madison went to a club, at clubs people dance, there was the club owner she needed to talk to to help ethan save his son, the club owner only talks to 'sexy girls' (As most club owners do). So she did what she thought was the best plan to get him alone, to make him talk.

According to how you'd want the game to play, you would want everything thats 'Not immersive and not apart of the actual story' to be left out? You'd realise how badly edited the game would be?

It would be okay if your arguement had valid points, but it just seems rife with gender bias.

Yeah and then no BUT SEX DOES SELL..

wheres the option for "I love it, always pause it to play with myself" ???

ekultus

It was done tastefully to give a feeling of being there uncensored and all. I just wish more games would leave it out..especially sex noises because I'm tired of cutting the volume down. Some people might think you're watching porn or something.gamer082009

Felt a little forced, buti guess they wanted some scenes to feel as "real life" as possible.

Yeah and then no BUT SEX DOES SELL..

jay_rock_

It made me blush. Seriously though it didn't bother me one bit. As a matter of fact with a game like Heavy Rain I kinda expected it. It definetely added to the story (I wasn't expecting characters to hop in the shower with their clothes on) and because that DIDN'T happen itmade the gamemore realistic.

Theres nudity?!

**Leaves house To Go buy heavy rain** :P

I frantically masturbated during every nude scene.

I wish the game did have full frontal nudity, but sadly, i have not seen that in Heavy Rain.

I'm okay with it; I just wish my mom hadn't walked by...awkward.

Spoilers, mates! It did not provide any story value. Chopping a finger to save a son is story value (although that strip scene is barely debatable). The moment the game had some unrealistic characters/situations/actions, the argument that the game was portraying society got kind of shot.ProjectTrinity

Oh? So you've been in a situation like Ethan's then? Im sorry, its just your talking like you've been there before. Your son has been kidnapped and you know what people should do/how to act/where to go.

Of course there are moment in the game that dont provide any story value. Does any movie have a scene that doesnt provide to the story? Of course, you cant be bombarded with story plot moments every second of every moment. Directors know that viewers need some downtime, to be able to breathe, take it all in.

im tired of the double standard for games. If heavy Rain were a movie we wouldnt be having this discussion. Theres nothing wrong with the nudity regardless of it was needed or not.

I think you need to take a step back, chill out, and realize its just a video game. There is no controversy as to why they showed those scenes, it was thier game, they can show the scenes they want to show.

Your not okay with Madison's shower and strip scenes? There is a shower scene of Ethan at the start of the game, yet you dont have a problem with that? Is this just a gender thing? Maybe you should ring up Quantic Dream and tell them that "Madison didnt use shampoo, body wash or toilet paper, so therefor, its not immersive enough"...Please.

Madison went to a club, at clubs people dance, there was the club owner she needed to talk to to help ethan save his son, the club owner only talks to 'sexy girls' (As most club owners do). So she did what she thought was the best plan to get him alone, to make him talk.

According to how you'd want the game to play, you would want everything thats 'Not immersive and not apart of the actual story' to be left out? You'd realise how badly edited the game would be?

It would be okay if your arguement had valid points, but it just seems rife with gender bias.

Abecale

lol, you know, just because people express an opinion of disapproval does not mean they're frantic and crying and having a bloody panic attack and need to chill out. In fact, of all the people who've posted, you seem the least chilled out in the way that you attack people for merely not thinking it adds to the story.

No it's not a gender thing. It's an Ethan-was-covered-but-Madison-was-not thing.

As for the club thing, your whole argument about it being necessary for her to do what she did in order to get to the club owner falls to shambles when you realise that the whole scene is skippable if you just go for the lamp from the getgo. It's added in as fanservice.

And no, I'm not arguing that everything that isn't immersive should be left out. I'm arguing that the nude scenes are not immersive as people claim they are, so that justification for them that people use doesn't exist.

[QUOTE="Abecale"]

I think you need to take a step back, chill out, and realize its just a video game. There is no controversy as to why they showed those scenes, it was thier game, they can show the scenes they want to show.

Your not okay with Madison's shower and strip scenes? There is a shower scene of Ethan at the start of the game, yet you dont have a problem with that? Is this just a gender thing? Maybe you should ring up Quantic Dream and tell them that "Madison didnt use shampoo, body wash or toilet paper, so therefor, its not immersive enough"...Please.

Madison went to a club, at clubs people dance, there was the club owner she needed to talk to to help ethan save his son, the club owner only talks to 'sexy girls' (As most club owners do). So she did what she thought was the best plan to get him alone, to make him talk.

According to how you'd want the game to play, you would want everything thats 'Not immersive and not apart of the actual story' to be left out? You'd realise how badly edited the game would be?

It would be okay if your arguement had valid points, but it just seems rife with gender bias.

clicketyclick

lol, you know, just because people express an opinion of disapproval does not mean they're frantic and crying and having a bloody panic attack and need to chill out. In fact, of all the people who've posted, you seem the least chilled out in the way that you attack people for merely not thinking it adds to the story.

No it's not a gender thing. It's an Ethan-was-covered-but-Madison-was-not thing.

As for the club thing, your whole argument about it being necessary for her to do what she did in order to get to the club owner falls to shambles when you realise that the whole scene is skippable if you just go for the lamp from the getgo. It's added in as fanservice.

And no, I'm not arguing that everything that isn't immersive should be left out. I'm arguing that the nude scenes are not immersive as people claim they are, so that justification for them that people use doesn't exist.

Me? Haha, your the only one getting into a tiff about it. If you feel that strongly about it, tell Quantic Dream, im sure they would love to hear it.

You say you didnt get frantic and crying, but your post, you can clearly see you got really worked up about it.

its chubby-tastic

Me? Haha, your the only one getting into a tiff about it. If you feel that strongly about it, tell Quantic Dream, im sure they would love to hear it.

Abecale

Look, this thread is asking for opinions here. I'm expressing my opinion here. I don't know what your problem is, why people who disagree with you can't express their opinions here.

You got so defensive in your response to ProjectTrinity that I'm beginning to think you're maybe on the development team of the game.

[QUOTE="Abecale"]

Me? Haha, your the only one getting into a tiff about it. If you feel that strongly about it, tell Quantic Dream, im sure they would love to hear it.

clicketyclick

Look, this thread is asking for opinions here. I'm expressing my opinion here. I don't know what your problem is, why people who disagree with you can't express their opinions here.

Your original post was in reply, rebuttling to someone elses opinion about the game. Im not allowed to do the same?

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

[QUOTE="Abecale"]

Me? Haha, your the only one getting into a tiff about it. If you feel that strongly about it, tell Quantic Dream, im sure they would love to hear it.

Abecale

Look, this thread is asking for opinions here. I'm expressing my opinion here. I don't know what your problem is, why people who disagree with you can't express their opinions here.

Your original post was in reply, rebuttling to someone elses opinion about the game. Im not allowed to do the same?

[QUOTE="Abecale"]

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

Look, this thread is asking for opinions here. I'm expressing my opinion here. I don't know what your problem is, why people who disagree with you can't express their opinions here.

clicketyclick

Your original post was in reply, rebuttling to someone elses opinion about the game. Im not allowed to do the same?

And im giving my opinions. So whats the matter?

And im giving my opinions. So whats the matter?

Abecale

[QUOTE="Abecale"]

And im giving my opinions. So whats the matter?

clicketyclick

I gave my opinion, expressed how i felt, and defended my opinion. Its the internet, its how it works.

And no, just because i have a differing opinion, doesnt mean im on the development team :roll:

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="Abecale"]

And im giving my opinions. So whats the matter?

Abecale

I gave my opinion, expressed how i felt, and defended my opinion. Its the internet, its how it works.