MGS4 breath taking news!!!

The "oldman" pictured in the trailers, for the upcoming metal gear solid game for ps3 is NOT Solid snake, but none other than BIG BOSS!!!.

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now this isn't official obviously, but to me it's as good as fact when you put everything together. 

The "oldman" pictured in the trailers, for the upcoming metal gear solid game for ps3 is NOT Solid snake, but none other than BIG BOSS!!!.

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now this isn't official obviously, but to me it's as good as fact when you put everything together. 

Ricko1234

its not big boss cuz he is dead be4 MGS.. and its not a eye patch is u see the trailer in some sceens he is not wearing the eye device..Keasy4

who says he's dead????? grey fox who presumed dead multiple times. ALso a younger snake makes an appearence in the trailers to. explain that please? I belive that both ledgendary snakes are in this game. 

then why is liquid snake also so old?Nichol4s

liquid snake? I dont understand 

[QUOTE="Keasy4"]its not big boss cuz he is dead be4 MGS.. and its not a eye patch is u see the trailer in some sceens he is not wearing the eye device..Ricko1234

who says he's dead????? grey fox who presumed dead multiple times. ALso a younger snake makes an appearence in the trailers to. explain that please? I belive that both ledgendary snakes are in this game. 

[QUOTE="Nichol4s"]then why is liquid snake also so old?Ricko1234

liquid snake? I dont understand 

He means Liquid Ocelot , he got comfused.

The other thing is where from does  Otacon knows Big Boss?

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[QUOTE="Nichol4s"]then why is liquid snake also so old?hailltoyou

liquid snake? I dont understand

He means Liquid Ocelot , he got comfused.

The other thing is where from does Otacon knows Big Boss?

mmm but how does solid snake know The boss????? 

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[QUOTE="Nichol4s"]then why is liquid snake also so old?hailltoyou

liquid snake? I dont understand 

He means Liquid Ocelot , he got comfused.

The other thing is where from does  Otacon knows Big Boss?

ALso a younger snake makes an appearence in the trailers to. explain that please?

Ricko1234

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[QUOTE="Nichol4s"]then why is liquid snake also so old?Ricko1234

liquid snake? I dont understand

He means Liquid Ocelot , he got confused.

The other thing is where from does Otacon knows Big Boss?

mmm but how does solid snake know The boss????? 

Thats not a problem , he went to the source of it all :) to pay his respects to person who started it all.

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[QUOTE="Nichol4s"]then why is liquid snake also so old?Keasy4

liquid snake? I dont understand

He means Liquid Ocelot , he got comfused.

The other thing is where from does Otacon knows Big Boss?

but its the same story with solid snake and the boss. She died before he was born.  

[QUOTE="Ricko1234"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"][QUOTE="Ricko1234"]

[QUOTE="Nichol4s"]then why is liquid snake also so old?hailltoyou

liquid snake? I dont understand

He means Liquid Ocelot , he got confused.

The other thing is where from does Otacon knows Big Boss?

mmm but how does solid snake know The boss?????

Thats not a problem , he went to the source of it all :) to pay his respects to person who started it all.

but that doesn't work because no one apart from Biss Boss knew that The Boss waasn't a traitor and was infact undercover. She was despised by the rest of the world who didnt know the truth 

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[QUOTE="Nichol4s"]then why is liquid snake also so old?Ricko1234

liquid snake? I dont understand

He means Liquid Ocelot , he got comfused.

The other thing is where from does Otacon knows Big Boss?

but its the same story with solid snake and the boss. She died before he was born.  

[QUOTE="hailltoyou"][QUOTE="Ricko1234"][QUOTE="hailltoyou"][QUOTE="Ricko1234"]

[QUOTE="Nichol4s"]then why is liquid snake also so old?Ricko1234

liquid snake? I dont understand

He means Liquid Ocelot , he got confused.

The other thing is where from does Otacon knows Big Boss?

mmm but how does solid snake know The boss?????

Thats not a problem , he went to the source of it all :) to pay his respects to person who started it all.

but that doesn't work because no one apart from Biss Boss knew that The Boss waasn't a traitor and was infact undercover. She was despised by the rest of the world who didnt know the truth 

I got you there :) , if The Boss was traitor and no one knew that, then wy is she buried in that Military of Honor semetery or how is it called. I don't think that traitors get buried there.

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[QUOTE="Nichol4s"]then why is liquid snake also so old?hailltoyou

liquid snake? I dont understand

He means Liquid Ocelot , he got comfused.

The other thing is where from does Otacon knows Big Boss?

Well.. you know what Mr. Kojima is like :roll:

Choose "I liked MGS2"  on MGS3 you get pranked.. Jack wearing a Raiden mask jumps out.. pranked me so hard i died for 0.5 seconds..

Then he said he's gonna give the movie rights to the crap german director who made street fighter lied   

He was gonna retire after MGS3   lie

Now we see a mid-aged snake in the latest trailer..?.. and a brid turds on his cheek

Who knows anything can heppen till it comes out - for all we know these trailers couldve been concept art lol

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[QUOTE="Nichol4s"]then why is liquid snake also so old?Nichol4s

liquid snake? I dont understand

He means Liquid Ocelot , he got comfused.

The other thing is where from does Otacon knows Big Boss?

If you played MGS2, Liquids arm gets attached to Ocelot. Thereby Liquid having some psychotic control over ocelot. Hence, Liquid Ocelot.thedarkomen

DUDE give a SPOILER WARNING or something :roll:

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]If you played MGS2, Liquids arm gets attached to Ocelot. Thereby Liquid having some psychotic control over ocelot. Hence, Liquid Ocelot.hailltoyou

DUDE give a SPOILER WARNING or something :roll:

no i don't think its big boss because how does big boss know otacon, he doesn't have an eye patch in the screens and pictures and how does big boss fall under friendly terms with the campell. i thought of this idea already but things doesn't fit plus in the trailer it says old snake, implying that its solid snake,

no i don't think its big boss because how does big boss know otacon, he doesn't have an eye patch in the screens and pictures and how does big boss fall under friendly terms with the campell. i thought of this idea already but things doesn't fit plus in the trailer it says old snake, implying that its solid snake,

Vendrena

ha you have obviously never played portable ops *spoiler* the whole game is about naked snake (big boss) working with campbell.

Why didn't you put spoiler on the title of your topic?

As soon as I read " the old man isn't..." I stopped reading, as you are ruining an experience worth figuring out while playing the game...

[QUOTE="Keasy4"]its not big boss cuz he is dead be4 MGS.. and its not a eye patch is u see the trailer in some sceens he is not wearing the eye device..Ricko1234

who says he's dead????? grey fox who presumed dead multiple times. ALso a younger snake makes an appearence in the trailers to. explain that please? I belive that both ledgendary snakes are in this game.

 Biggest proof is that raven doesn't seem _that_ old aswell :P I belive there's both snakes aswell in this game.

Why didn't you put spoiler on the title of your topic?

As soon as I read " the old man isn't..." I stopped reading, as you are ruining an experience worth figuring out while playing the game...

Cedmln

sorry :S but this isnt fact, its just mindful speculation which i personally think is half the fun of it. 

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[QUOTE="Keasy4"]its not big boss cuz he is dead be4 MGS.. and its not a eye patch is u see the trailer in some sceens he is not wearing the eye device..njpj

who says he's dead????? grey fox who presumed dead multiple times. ALso a younger snake makes an appearence in the trailers to. explain that please? I belive that both ledgendary snakes are in this game.

Biggest proof is that raven doesn't seem _that_ old aswell :P I belive there's both snakes aswell in this game.

argh, im so stupid, this guy has sussed it. *spoiler* when snake and ocelot meet in metal gear solid 1 ocelot is old but snake it fairly young yet now they seem to be the same age.....explination? In snake eater when Big boss meets Ocelot they are both about the same age (ocelot a bit younger) hence why they are similar ages in MGS4.  

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[QUOTE="Keasy4"]its not big boss cuz he is dead be4 MGS.. and its not a eye patch is u see the trailer in some sceens he is not wearing the eye device..Keasy4

who says he's dead????? grey fox who presumed dead multiple times. ALso a younger snake makes an appearence in the trailers to. explain that please? I belive that both ledgendary snakes are in this game.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=g6uZ0OtzecM  

Watch It For Yourself.

You people know he's going to be in the game. HE WAS IN THE E3 05 ARTWORK. If you don't think he'll play a huge part in the game. You're wrong.

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[QUOTE="Keasy4"]its not big boss cuz he is dead be4 MGS.. and its not a eye patch is u see the trailer in some sceens he is not wearing the eye device..Ricko1234

who says he's dead????? grey fox who presumed dead multiple times. ALso a younger snake makes an appearence in the trailers to. explain that please? I belive that both ledgendary snakes are in this game.

Biggest proof is that raven doesn't seem _that_ old aswell :P I belive there's both snakes aswell in this game.

argh, im so stupid, this guy has sussed it. *spoiler* when snake and ocelot meet in metal gear solid 1 ocelot is old but snake it fairly young yet now they seem to be the same age.....explination? In snake eater when Big boss meets Ocelot they are both about the same age (ocelot a bit younger) hence why they are similar ages in MGS4.  

[QUOTE="Keasy4"][QUOTE="Ricko1234"]

[QUOTE="Keasy4"]its not big boss cuz he is dead be4 MGS.. and its not a eye patch is u see the trailer in some sceens he is not wearing the eye device..sushiboyyyy

who says he's dead????? grey fox who presumed dead multiple times. ALso a younger snake makes an appearence in the trailers to. explain that please? I belive that both ledgendary snakes are in this game.

[QUOTE="Ricko1234"][QUOTE="njpj"][QUOTE="Ricko1234"]

[QUOTE="Keasy4"]its not big boss cuz he is dead be4 MGS.. and its not a eye patch is u see the trailer in some sceens he is not wearing the eye device..Keasy4

who says he's dead????? grey fox who presumed dead multiple times. ALso a younger snake makes an appearence in the trailers to. explain that please? I belive that both ledgendary snakes are in this game.

Biggest proof is that raven doesn't seem _that_ old aswell :P I belive there's both snakes aswell in this game.

argh, im so stupid, this guy has sussed it. *spoiler* when snake and ocelot meet in metal gear solid 1 ocelot is old but snake it fairly young yet now they seem to be the same age.....explination? In snake eater when Big boss meets Ocelot they are both about the same age (ocelot a bit younger) hence why they are similar ages in MGS4.

[QUOTE="Ricko1234"][QUOTE="njpj"][QUOTE="Ricko1234"]

[QUOTE="Keasy4"]its not big boss cuz he is dead be4 MGS.. and its not a eye patch is u see the trailer in some sceens he is not wearing the eye device..Keasy4

who says he's dead????? grey fox who presumed dead multiple times. ALso a younger snake makes an appearence in the trailers to. explain that please? I belive that both ledgendary snakes are in this game.

Biggest proof is that raven doesn't seem _that_ old aswell :P I belive there's both snakes aswell in this game.

argh, im so stupid, this guy has sussed it. *spoiler* when snake and ocelot meet in metal gear solid 1 ocelot is old but snake it fairly young yet now they seem to be the same age.....explination? In snake eater when Big boss meets Ocelot they are both about the same age (ocelot a bit younger) hence why they are similar ages in MGS4.

koj9ima can do what he likes. He bought grey fox back from the dead, he can bring big boss back from the dead. Yes maybe some of these things are explainable but there are too many of these to be a co-insidence.  

When I think about now this does really make sense.  Hideo Kojima always likes to play with our minds so this might be true.  And plus look, even if the "snake" at the graveyard did not have a eyepatch it doesn't mean that it isn't possible for him to have a surgical procedure on his eye.  Look at Ocelot!  Putting a dead mans arm to another guy is just downright impossible in real life.  So it wouldn't be impossible for Big Boss to get his eye fixed.  Anyways you never know what happens...

Rick, actually Big Boss lost his right eye.....
And yup, that guy in the trailer had the solid eye device on his left eye.
It's kinda sad that you think yourself as a MGS fan...Funglip

 who cares, thats just 1 out of about 10 other issues which point to him being big boss rather than solid.

lets clear this up right now

-IT CANT BE BIG BOSS HE IS DEAD (BURNED ALIVE) if it was him in the trailer what happened to his scares. and how does he know meryl, otacon, and naomi. Another one my reasons to believe its not him is because he was found so easily at a grave yard. If he was found that easily why not find him times before that.

-IT CANT BE SOLIDUS (cant remember who said it was him) because he ages faster than liquid and solid snake. Why? because he is the youngest brother out of the 3 and he has both of big bosses recessive and dominant genes which makes him ages faster.

-IT CANT BE LIQUID because he is infused with ocelot. LIQUID OCELOT

Only person it can is solid snake

Now to explain the CQC theory

who knows may be solid snake improved CQC (NOTICE he is using a knife with an ASSAULT RIFLE. When was the last time you saw big boss do that)

About young snake we are going to wait and see. Who knows it might be camoflague, a new clone, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

Fell Free to correct any mistakes i have made