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#151 Ricko1234
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[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="FLSTYLE"]

[QUOTE="Sim_genius"]Wait, who´s big boss again?FLSTYLE

 

The star of Metal Gear Solid 3 and Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops. Codename Naked Snake before he killed his mentor The Boss.

He aged and became the villian in Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, in which he was killed by a young Solid Snake.


who said he was killed?
he was "killed" in metal gear 1
gray fox was "killed" in metal gear 2
solid snake was "killed" in mgs2.
liquid sanek was "killed" in mgs1.

death in mgs is a meaningless thing, because characters can always can back.

 

What part of 100 year old+ burnt to a crisp body do you not understand?

he may not have aged at all during his years under gene therapy 

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#152 darkfame
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Watch the Metal Gear Solid 4 Trailer 3 on GameSpot and look closely at 11:13 when it first says Solid Snake and the Solid text changes into Old. This will put this discussion to an end.
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#153 Ricko1234
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Watch the Metal Gear Solid 4 Trailer 3 on GameSpot and look closely at 11:13 when it first says Solid Snake and the Solid text changes into Old. This will put this discussion to an end.darkfame

no, no it won't :| 

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#154 Ricko1234
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You all also seem to be forgetting that Big Boss was also called snake. "he say's snake in the trailer BLAH BLAH BLAH" there are many snakes.....
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#155 TriangleHard
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it doesn't matter. Big Boss, no right eye. Snake in the trailer, has right eye.
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#156 Ricko1234
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it doesn't matter. Big Boss, no right eye. Snake in the trailer, has right eye. TriangleHard

he could have a new one......that point is irelevent. 

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#157 TriangleHard
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[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]it doesn't matter. Big Boss, no right eye. Snake in the trailer, has right eye. Ricko1234

he could have a new one......that point is irelevent.

Now you are just forcing it.
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#158 Ricko1234
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[QUOTE="Ricko1234"]

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]it doesn't matter. Big Boss, no right eye. Snake in the trailer, has right eye. TriangleHard

he could have a new one......that point is irelevent.



Now you are just forcing it.

ocelot has a new liquid arm and grey fox had an entire new body for god sake! WHo says big boss' couln't have one poxy eye??? 

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#159 salmo229
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Eyes aren't like limbs. Once you lose your eyes, that's it. As of now, it's Solid Snake. The Kojima TGS page even says it is.
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#160 Ricko1234
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Eyes aren't like limbs. Once you lose your eyes, that's it.

As of now, it's Solid Snake. The Kojima TGS page even says it is.salmo229

wrong, its possibke to have artificial eyes etc... They dont work like normal eyes but its possible. And also even if it weren't, MSG could "make" it possible 

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#161 feel_freetwo
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big boss is a patriot, why would we be playing as a patriot. you remind me of those morons who were convinced mgs3 had solid snake travelling in time. kojima has said that its solid snake, and that he is the only playable character in mgs4.
[QUOTE="shabie12si"][QUOTE="Denji"]

[QUOTE="shabie12si"]They way he guy explains it makes alot of
sense...but he left out a bunch of things. Big boss had his eye SHOT
OFF..So how did he have both eyes back? also the character in the
trailers had the solid eye system on the opposite eye in which big boss
had the patch on. so that theory is debunked. Alson ninja spoke about
medicine because he was infected with the fox die aswell. Snakes body
seems to be going through some tough **** fighting off this same viruse
for so long.. Also big boss was killed by snake. They were positive he was dead. He was only frozen to keep his dna intack for the colnes they create short after...Denji

It's
not Foxdie that's killing him. It's cause he's a clone and he's rapidly
aging and his cells are breaking down. Remember, Foxdie kills you
quickly mimicking a heart attack. Snake would've died at the end of his
mission or even in MGS2 if it targeted him, and it wouldn't slowly kill
him. That stuff he's taking is to keep him alive, to slow down the
process. I'm certain that isn't Foxdie, cause logically (like I've
explained above) it would've been over way before MGS4, and it wouldn't
happen slowly. Also I think that maybe cause Foxdie cannot kill the
carrier, that or Snake just wasn't targeted in the first place.

oh yeah...well then what ever happened to the foxdie that snake was infected with since mgs1? they never new what was going to happen to him...

Oh they knew alright. The Patriots never left anything unturned and I'm telling you it won't be Foxdie. The Foxdie protines were programmed for a select few (Baker and members of Foxhound minus Ocelot) and if they were programmed to kill Snake, it would've happened long ago (cause they were pissed at Snake for disappearing and joining Otatcon, hence the set up of the Tanker incident in MGS2). Foxdie doesn't affect Snake, cause he would've died right along with Liquid (also cause he's the carrier) Bidding on time and infiltration, you couldn't kill off Snake cause he has to come in contact with all Foxdie was programmed to kill. Snake is well alive even in 2009 during The Big Shell incident. But he was getting older. Solidus was suffering from the same thing he's suffering in MGS4, only in MGS4 (which is quite sometime after 2) it's in it's advanced stage. Cause he's a clone, plain and simple. His body and his cells are starting to die, and aging him at a much more rapid rate than a normal human. Foxdie isn't a virus, and it doesn't cause aging. Foxdie causes the cells in your heart to moreless "kill themselves" mimicking a heart attack (3:59 am, tired, I'm not using the correct scientific terms used in the game).

I know it can't be Foxdie, cause it's impossible logically.

thats wrong, foxdie was put on snake as a random effect, as vengence from naomi. he would never know when he dies. liquid just got unlucky and the foxdie (set on random) kicked in early for liquid. snake could die at any moment, and naomi's speech proably has to do with his age, but it could be all about his age.
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#162 Ricko1234
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[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]big boss is a patriot, why would we be playing as a patriot.
you remind me of those morons who were convinced mgs3 had solid snake travelling in time. kojima has said that its solid snake, and that he is the only playable character in mgs4.

[You remind me as one of those black and white fools who can't see a possible otehr side. Why play as him? Who knows, maybe he's putting what he did right? Maybe he's a sub plot, maybe he's co-operating with Ocelot (as they did in the past) or with campbell (as they also did in the past) Another thing How old is campbell? I would say mid 60's....and Big Boss is pretty much the same age as campbell
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#163 feel_freetwo
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[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]big boss is a patriot, why would we be playing as a patriot.
you remind me of those morons who were convinced mgs3 had solid snake travelling in time. kojima has said that its solid snake, and that he is the only playable character in mgs4.

[You remind me as one of those black and white fools who can't see a possible otehr side. Why play as him? Who knows, maybe he's putting what he did right? Maybe he's a sub plot, maybe he's co-operating with Ocelot (as they did in the past) or with campbell (as they also did in the past) Another thing How old is campbell? I would say mid 60's....and Big Boss is pretty much the same age as campbellRicko1234
big boss is 88 or 90 in mgs4. also kojima has comfirmed that its solid snake. there is no other side. kojima doesnt lie, he just distrups the truth. in mgs3, he never said it was big boss, or solid snake, he just layyed down clues, and in mgs2, no one asked who we play as. in mgs4 people have asked, and he has clearly said, snake is the onnly playable character, he has said that "old snake is solid snake". and if you ignore what he says then may god have mercy on your deluded ignorance.
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[QUOTE="Ricko1234"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]big boss is a patriot, why would we be playing as a patriot.
you remind me of those morons who were convinced mgs3 had solid snake travelling in time. kojima has said that its solid snake, and that he is the only playable character in mgs4.

[You remind me as one of those black and white fools who can't see a possible otehr side. Why play as him? Who knows, maybe he's putting what he did right? Maybe he's a sub plot, maybe he's co-operating with Ocelot (as they did in the past) or with campbell (as they also did in the past) Another thing How old is campbell? I would say mid 60's....and Big Boss is pretty much the same age as campbellfeel_freetwo
big boss is 88 or 90 in mgs4. also kojima has comfirmed that its solid snake. there is no other side. kojima doesnt lie, he just distrups the truth. in mgs3, he never said it was big boss, or solid snake, he just layyed down clues, and in mgs2, no one asked who we play as. in mgs4 people have asked, and he has clearly said, snake is the onnly playable character, he has said that "old snake is solid snake". and if you ignore what he says then may god have mercy on your deluded ignorance.

 

Big Boss is dead. They state that he is dead in Metal Gear Solid. Why would he be in MGS 4, unless its some sort of flashback or he is resurrected?

In MGS3 you play as Naked Snake. After you defeat The Boss (a woman), you are told that you will now be known as Big Boss.

Big Boss is killed sometime after MGS3 and before MGS.

You play as Solid Snake in MGS and MGS 2. 

 

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I'm still breathing just fine. Thanks though.
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#166 dantesergei
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that is the most stupid thing i've ever heard

first : he haves both eyes

second: he knows otacon

third: the eye patch is in the rong side

fourth: he knows meryl

fifth: in the end of the last trailer snake looks at the raven flying and smiles ( this means what vulcan raven says to snake in metal gear solid 1 "i will always be watching you") he remembers that.

its all bull**** its THE Solid Snake period.

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#167 feel_freetwo
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[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="Ricko1234"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]big boss is a patriot, why would we be playing as a patriot.
you remind me of those morons who were convinced mgs3 had solid snake travelling in time. kojima has said that its solid snake, and that he is the only playable character in mgs4.

[You remind me as one of those black and white fools who can't see a possible otehr side. Why play as him? Who knows, maybe he's putting what he did right? Maybe he's a sub plot, maybe he's co-operating with Ocelot (as they did in the past) or with campbell (as they also did in the past) Another thing How old is campbell? I would say mid 60's....and Big Boss is pretty much the same age as campbellNavigatorsGhost

big boss is 88 or 90 in mgs4. also kojima has comfirmed that its solid snake. there is no other side. kojima doesnt lie, he just distrups the truth. in mgs3, he never said it was big boss, or solid snake, he just layyed down clues, and in mgs2, no one asked who we play as. in mgs4 people have asked, and he has clearly said, snake is the onnly playable character, he has said that "old snake is solid snake". and if you ignore what he says then may god have mercy on your deluded ignorance.

Big Boss is dead. They state that he is dead in Metal Gear Solid. Why would he be in MGS 4, unless its some sort of flashback or he is resurrected?

In MGS3 you play as Naked Snake. After you defeat The Boss (a woman), you are told that you will now be known as Big Boss.

Big Boss is killed sometime after MGS3 and before MGS.

You play as Solid Snake in MGS and MGS 2.

actually campbell gives a strange look when asked why cant they hand over big boss's corpse. also campbell said gray fox was dead in mgs. and he wasnt.
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#168 shabie12si
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[QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="Ricko1234"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]big boss is a patriot, why would we be playing as a patriot.
you remind me of those morons who were convinced mgs3 had solid snake travelling in time. kojima has said that its solid snake, and that he is the only playable character in mgs4.

[You remind me as one of those black and white fools who can't see a possible otehr side. Why play as him? Who knows, maybe he's putting what he did right? Maybe he's a sub plot, maybe he's co-operating with Ocelot (as they did in the past) or with campbell (as they also did in the past) Another thing How old is campbell? I would say mid 60's....and Big Boss is pretty much the same age as campbellfeel_freetwo

big boss is 88 or 90 in mgs4. also kojima has comfirmed that its solid snake. there is no other side. kojima doesnt lie, he just distrups the truth. in mgs3, he never said it was big boss, or solid snake, he just layyed down clues, and in mgs2, no one asked who we play as. in mgs4 people have asked, and he has clearly said, snake is the onnly playable character, he has said that "old snake is solid snake". and if you ignore what he says then may god have mercy on your deluded ignorance.

Big Boss is dead. They state that he is dead in Metal Gear Solid. Why would he be in MGS 4, unless its some sort of flashback or he is resurrected?

In MGS3 you play as Naked Snake. After you defeat The Boss (a woman), you are told that you will now be known as Big Boss.

Big Boss is killed sometime after MGS3 and before MGS.

You play as Solid Snake in MGS and MGS 2.

actually campbell gives a strange look when asked why cant they hand over big boss's corpse. also campbell said gray fox was dead in mgs. and he wasnt.

gray fox was resurected but not fully..hence the suit he had to wear to stay alive
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#169 Robotron92
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Well that does make sense. I would be shocked if it was really Big Boss. I would rather play a younger Snake than an older version. But who knows. They might have a surprise for us and have been tricking us all this time. Truvietplaya
id rather play an old snake just to show how long the game has been around
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#170 feel_freetwo
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[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="Ricko1234"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]big boss is a patriot, why would we be playing as a patriot.
you remind me of those morons who were convinced mgs3 had solid snake travelling in time. kojima has said that its solid snake, and that he is the only playable character in mgs4.

[You remind me as one of those black and white fools who can't see a possible otehr side. Why play as him? Who knows, maybe he's putting what he did right? Maybe he's a sub plot, maybe he's co-operating with Ocelot (as they did in the past) or with campbell (as they also did in the past) Another thing How old is campbell? I would say mid 60's....and Big Boss is pretty much the same age as campbellshabie12si

big boss is 88 or 90 in mgs4. also kojima has comfirmed that its solid snake. there is no other side. kojima doesnt lie, he just distrups the truth. in mgs3, he never said it was big boss, or solid snake, he just layyed down clues, and in mgs2, no one asked who we play as. in mgs4 people have asked, and he has clearly said, snake is the onnly playable character, he has said that "old snake is solid snake". and if you ignore what he says then may god have mercy on your deluded ignorance.

Big Boss is dead. They state that he is dead in Metal Gear Solid. Why would he be in MGS 4, unless its some sort of flashback or he is resurrected?

In MGS3 you play as Naked Snake. After you defeat The Boss (a woman), you are told that you will now be known as Big Boss.

Big Boss is killed sometime after MGS3 and before MGS.

You play as Solid Snake in MGS and MGS 2.

actually campbell gives a strange look when asked why cant they hand over big boss's corpse. also campbell said gray fox was dead in mgs. and he wasnt.

gray fox was resurected but not fully..hence the suit he had to wear to stay alive

if you listerned to mgs1, he wasnt dead in the first place.
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#171 viperstrykev8
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that is the most stupid thing i've ever heard

first : he haves both eyes

second: he knows otacon

third: the eye patch is in the rong side

fourth: he knows meryl

fifth: in the end of the last trailer snake looks at the raven flying and smiles ( this means what vulcan raven says to snake in metal gear solid 1 "i will always be watching you") he remembers that.

its all bull**** its THE Solid Snake period.

dantesergei
this guy is right you guys are wrong its solid snake not big boss ITS SOLID SNAKE get that through your head. you guys are making this complicated than it already is there is no " What if they resurected big boss" THIS IS SO SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND ITS SOLID SNAKE