mgs4 might go multiplatform =(

[QUOTE="CryoGoblin"][QUOTE="Ket87"]

Yeah in all likelihood Konami excercising their right to distribute the game as they see fit against Kojimas wishes could cause him to split though in all honesty I really couldn't care. MGS are the only games he has made in almost 15 years, plus he has wanted to stop being part of the Metal Gear projects since after MGS2 but he has even stated that he had a change of heart to do 3 and 4 after he received tons of fan mail saying that he had to do it, even death threats saying he had to do it. Now the main story is finished, if he calls it quits because of something like this it will not affect future MGS projects as he would not be making them anyways.

Plus I also agree that the more the merrier, I've believed since the beginning that Kojima was foolish for not following every other 3rd party dev and going multiplatform. Its just bad buisness being an exclusive these days.

Ket87

i like how you say its bad business to be an exclusive. Because that really doesnt make sense. Especially when like most of or not all say on the forum that Microsoft makes deals and plans to maintain their exclusive titles, exclusive! Now exclusives is what drives the console market, creates competition between different companies, If there should not be exclusive then F**k lets have Microsoft and Sony meet up in the middle next gen? Wouldnt that be interesting...no...it wouldnt because exclusives is key. Like nintendo...ever see them giving up Mario? not likely.

As for your comment about Mario I got three words for you man, SONIC THE HEDGEHOG. Nothing is exclusive anymore even first party mascots.

That's because Sega went under. They haven't had a new console since 1999. Sonic Team didn't want Sonic to die with it (though it didn't make much of a difference anyways after the horrible titles after SA2)

[QUOTE="Ket87"][QUOTE="CryoGoblin"][QUOTE="Ket87"] Yeah in all likelihood Konami excercising their right to distribute the game as they see fit against Kojimas wishes could cause him to split though in all honesty I really couldn't care. MGS are the only games he has made in almost 15 years, plus he has wanted to stop being part of the Metal Gear projects since after MGS2 but he has even stated that he had a change of heart to do 3 and 4 after he received tons of fan mail saying that he had to do it, even death threats saying he had to do it. Now the main story is finished, if he calls it quits because of something like this it will not affect future MGS projects as he would not be making them anyways.

Plus I also agree that the more the merrier, I've believed since the beginning that Kojima was foolish for not following every other 3rd party dev and going multiplatform. Its just bad buisness being an exclusive these days. Denji

And now that you bring Sonic to the table... I ask you, what happened with Snake being in SSBM? What was the deal with that?

No, as long as Kojima still has a say. Sony wouldn't lose their biggest exclusive. And I would never again buy a Konami product.metalgear-solid

No, as long as Kojima still has a say. Sony wouldn't lose their biggest exclusive. And I would never again buy a Konami product.metalgear-solid

Kojima wasn't suportive with making MGS2:Substance going to the XBOX and Konami convenced him to do so.

And I think people need to forget about games from 3rd party staying on one console unless their is a deal made between the owner of the gaming hardware and the game makers.

since Apple and MS are not really adversaries.hermes200

[QUOTE="Denji"][QUOTE="Ket87"][QUOTE="CryoGoblin"][QUOTE="Ket87"] Yeah in all likelihood Konami excercising their right to distribute the game as they see fit against Kojimas wishes could cause him to split though in all honesty I really couldn't care. MGS are the only games he has made in almost 15 years, plus he has wanted to stop being part of the Metal Gear projects since after MGS2 but he has even stated that he had a change of heart to do 3 and 4 after he received tons of fan mail saying that he had to do it, even death threats saying he had to do it. Now the main story is finished, if he calls it quits because of something like this it will not affect future MGS projects as he would not be making them anyways.

Plus I also agree that the more the merrier, I've believed since the beginning that Kojima was foolish for not following every other 3rd party dev and going multiplatform. Its just bad buisness being an exclusive these days. hermes200

And now that you bring Sonic to the table... I ask you, what happened with Snake being in SSBM? What was the deal with that?

I would assume because of Gamecube's Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes.

[QUOTE="hermes200"] since Apple and MS are not really adversaries.MKLOL

It kind of blurs the line when you can now run a Windows OS on a Mac machine

Give me a break! Most of the PS3 exclusives you mentioned are not so great (Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword) AND NONE of their upcoming games have proved anything. Name games all day long that doesn't mean they are good or WILL be good. Also don't forget ALL of the good games you mentioned WILL be on 360 as well. Oh yea let's not forget the hassle of manditory installs, lack of trophy support and a barely functioning online network thus gimping the PS3. Making the choice to game on 360 an easier, more simple choice and less haggle. Videogames are no longer JUST ABOUT the videogame itself. Many other factors contribute to making a better home console and the ones mentioned above are it! Don't kid yourself with the useless garbage you spew just because you're a fan of the PS3.

thegame1980

Your a Xbox fan boy yourself. Attacking a PS3 fanboy, or calling them a fanboy is pretty funny. I read you rant and rave on how much 360 is so much better than xbox and such. Just thought that was funny, not personally attacking you

This gen, both consoles have their pros and cons. You can't state that ps3 has no games, they have the multiplats, so pretty much same games as 360. I mean quality multiplats, not the other crap that gets published. 360 has great exclusives, but so does sony. So it comes down to what platform you enjoy more. Xbox has the better online service, which you pay for, and sony has a decent one for free, and the online network is not gimping as you claim. They have many dedicated servers to its ig online games such as warhawk, resistance. I am not a huge online gamer, so not as important to me. RPG's are not my thing, so don't care for lack of these games. And all the games I want to play, oops, majority of games can be found on the ps3. Although I wouldn't mind Gears! So this is just silly to say. And Just a side note, 360 is going the route of installs as well. It is starting slowly with the new XBOX experience, which allows you to download the entire game onto hardrive (still needactual disc to be inside the system to play it) and Konami is exploring this to port over MGS4.

To me it came down to the better console as you state, not just the video games, and in this department I fell the ps3 won. Not only a gaming system, but also a multimedia system that can be enjoyed by fam. My wife loves the blue ray funcionality, this is how I convinced her to get the ps3 and hdtv, hehehe, not instead of later! The reliabilty issue! PS3 doens't have such a huge failure rate as does 360. This was the selling ticket for me. I don't want to pay 300 or so for a system that will fail and have to send it in. If ms had taken care of this porblem initally and addressed it to the point where the failure rate dropped dramitaclly, I may have bought a 360 instead, but this is a huge turnoff for me. I will not pay a company t hat knowingly put out a system with such a huge failure rate. Matter of principle to me.

This gen will come down to 1st and 2nd party exclusives. And it's a win win for all gamers.And remember 360 had a 14 month headstart on ps3, and ps3 is almost catching up in sales, this withotu a true price cut as 360 has experienced. Just my 2 cents!

[QUOTE="hermes200"] since Apple and MS are not really adversaries.MKLOL

MS does not makes PCs, MS does software. And they have software exclusive for Mac. Apple does not compete against MS in that field, it competes against Dell, Toshiba and other manufacturers.

[QUOTE="MKLOL"][QUOTE="hermes200"] since Apple and MS are not really adversaries.hermes200

MS does not makes PCs, MS does software. And they have software exclusive for Mac. Apple does not compete against MS in that field, it competes against Dell, Toshiba and other manufacturers.

Actually Apple does also compete with MS Windows. Apple has it's own os and it competes with Microsoft's os. Hence all the apple commercials with the pc and mac guy. if they weren't adversaries, why would the apple ads target vista, and now the new Windows ads making fun of the Apple Ads?

And Windows office 2008 wasnt' directly released to Apple. Apple has a feature that allows you to run Windows os, and then run office on the installed windows os. And while Mac does compete with Dell, and other computer makers, it is in direct competiton with MS, since these other pc makers strictly use MS operationg systems, where as Mac's use their own os, such as leopard x and the like.

[QUOTE="hermes200"]

[QUOTE="MKLOL"][QUOTE="hermes200"] since Apple and MS are not really adversaries.PS3Gamer_1

MS does not makes PCs, MS does software. And they have software exclusive for Mac. Apple does not compete against MS in that field, it competes against Dell, Toshiba and other manufacturers.

Actually Apple does also compete with MS Windows. Apple has it's own os and it competes with Microsoft's os. Hence all the apple commercials with the pc and mac guy. if they weren't adversaries, why would the apple ads target vista, and now the new Windows ads making fun of the Apple Ads?

Especially starring that hacker from Live Free Or Die Hard lol

[QUOTE="hermes200"]

[QUOTE="MKLOL"][QUOTE="hermes200"] since Apple and MS are not really adversaries.PS3Gamer_1

MS does not makes PCs, MS does software. And they have software exclusive for Mac. Apple does not compete against MS in that field, it competes against Dell, Toshiba and other manufacturers.

Actually Apple does also compete with MS Windows. Apple has it's own os and it competes with Microsoft's os. Hence all the apple commercials with the pc and mac guy. if they weren't adversaries, why would the apple ads target vista, and now the new Windows ads making fun of the Apple Ads?

Especially starring that hacker from Live Free Or Die Hard lol

Who Cares? We're living in a multi-plat society. Besides, everyone deserves to play this game. EVERYONE.

I say port it. PS3 will still have the better quality game, but at least the world can witness the wonder that is MGS4.

Even if MGS4 goes multiplatform its gonna have like at least 2 discs. Rage (iD Software game, makers of Doom and stuff) is gonna be on the 360 but apparently it will look worse and have like 2 or 3 discs. So i'd assume since MGS4 was made for PS3 hardware and on a blu-ray. It will look worse and have a lot of discs (my guess would be 2-3)

and who cares anyway? we still have it and we get the better version of an amazing game!

Before I sale my ps3 due to lack of exclusive 3rd party support I ask myself, is it worth it to miss out on Killzone 2 and GOW3?

GeOW2 says yes

Tekken 6 going multiplat says yes

MGS4 going multiplat says yes

Street Fighter 4 and RE5 being multiplat say yes

RROD and no future exclusive 360 games that interest says no

Hmm................... I could buy both, but I can only play one at a time and I don't game as often as I used to. 360 is $200 + a HDD which will run me around 60 - 70 bucks on ebay. I'd have to buy a wireless router to which selling my ps3 could pay for all the essentials I need.

Who really cares? Seriously? It's not going to affect anyone here in any negative way at all.pyromaniac223

I doubt it. soon or later you will see they will get an external blu ray drive =/

by that time, sony day would be over and ps3 is another dreamcast

Hanabie

wow the day xbox gets a bluray drive is the day sackboy becomes real.

bought it, played it, beat it, put it on the shelf and moved on. who cares?somesthetic

Everybody who wanted to play Metal Gear has already done so. The only thing Microsoft has is timed exclusivity. Yes they have some 3rd party games, but they suck on the 1st party front.

As far as 3rd party goes

Tenchu Z and the new one

Kengo

Sylspheed

Beautiful Katamari

Kingdom Under Fire

Test Drive

Master Commander

Hour of Victory

That Frontlines WW 2 shooter game

Infinite Undiscovery

have all been poor to average games

MS's first party developer Mist Walker isn't that great.

Most of the cool games on 360 are multiplat

The only ones that people fawned over were Bioshock, Halo, Forza, PGR, Mass Effect, Tales of Vesperia, Viva Pinata, Fable 2, Gears of War 2, and Banjo.

Sony's games that are supposedly great are

Resistance, Motorstorm, Warhawk, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted Drake's Fortune, Hot Shots Golf 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, Wipeout, Siren Blood Curse, Little Big Planet for the most part have been recieved well by most critics that actually matter.

Resistance 2, seems like it will take home gold, Motorstorm 2 is quite cool, Valkyria Chronicles, although easy should strike the hearts of people, Socom seems alright for the online junkies.

in 09 you have Killzone 2, Tekken 6 with the better D-pad (everybody knows the 360 D-pad is not that great) Gran Turismo 5, God of War 3, Infamous, Twisted Metal, Heavy Rain, Ratchet, second PS3 adventure, Naughty Dog Project 2, White Knight Chronicles, Cross Edge, Wardevil Enigma (for now), Dark Cloud 3. Not to mention PSN games like Fat Princess, Kung Fu Ragdoll, Flower, that tetris like puzzle game.

Wow your going to sell your PS3 just so you can save yourself $50 dollars, but in the long run end up paying it again due to online fees.

Let us look at the 360 09 games shall we

Star Ocean 4

Forza 3

Halo Wars and the expansion of 3

Alan Wake.

If you ask me the 360, has already reached it's head back in 07

PS3 is getting most of the "big games" of 08 like Prince of Persia, Fallout, Far Cry, Call of Duty, Guitar Hero, Mirrors Edge, Sonic Unleashed, MK, VS DC and a lot of big ones of 09, like Prototype, Call of Duty 6, Resident Evil 5, Bayonetta, Last Remnant, (even though it is late),

As far as PS3 being like Dreamcast, yeah right, the dreamcast only lasted pretty much for about a year. yeah sure it had games come out all the way until early 02 but it was long gone before that. Even Valve, now wants to be more involed with the system.

Neither system is bad, but the 360 isn't the king like people make it out to be. Yes it has more games as far as quantity goes, but for quality, I would say they are about even. The 360 has RPG's while PS3 has a stronger adventure esque genre of gaming.

gamenerd15

p.s M$ tends to announce games the year they come out (minus a few) Just something to keep in mind when trying to judge M$ 09 lineup.

Have many of you forgotten that Mr. Kojima HIMSELF mentioned that the MGS4 is fully optimized for the PS3? Meaning, that it would not be simply porting the game to the 360. READ THE INTERVIEW HE HAD ABOUT THIS AND SOMEONE CLOSE THIS REDICULOUS THREAD.WR_Platinum

People forget quickly .. they jump all over these things .. instantly making giant stinks about it ..

Oh and it's not Rediculous .. it's Ridiculous .. ;)

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]Have many of you forgotten that Mr. Kojima HIMSELF mentioned that the MGS4 is fully optimized for the PS3? Meaning, that it would not be simply porting the game to the 360. READ THE INTERVIEW HE HAD ABOUT THIS AND SOMEONE CLOSE THIS REDICULOUS THREAD.420Token420

People forget quickly .. they jump all over these things .. instantly making giant stinks about it ..

Oh and it's not Rediculous .. it's Ridiculous .. ;)

Thanx for the edit.8)

[QUOTE="420Token420"]

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]Have many of you forgotten that Mr. Kojima HIMSELF mentioned that the MGS4 is fully optimized for the PS3? Meaning, that it would not be simply porting the game to the 360. READ THE INTERVIEW HE HAD ABOUT THIS AND SOMEONE CLOSE THIS REDICULOUS THREAD.WR_Platinum

People forget quickly .. they jump all over these things .. instantly making giant stinks about it ..

Oh and it's not Rediculous .. it's Ridiculous .. ;)

Thanx for the edit.8)

That's what I'm here for .. :)

Who cares? If you guys like the game so much, don't you want everyone to be able to play it? Even if it has to be on multiple discs, is that really a problem? Did any of you hate FFVII because it was on 3 discs? The original Metal gear was 2. Hell, RE4 on the game cube was 2 discs. If you are too lazy to get up once during a game and change a disc, you are a real loser. I thought MGS4 was a great game and would be happy to see it come to the 360. I don't play Metal Gear Online on my PS3, but I might if it was on XBox Live (the majority of my friends don't have a PS3 yet).

Who cares? If you guys like the game so much, don't you want everyone to be able to play it? Even if it has to be on multiple discs, is that really a problem? Did any of you hate FFVII because it was on 3 discs? The original Metal gear was 2. Hell, RE4 on the game cube was 2 discs. If you are too lazy to get up once during a game and change a disc, you are a real loser. I thought MGS4 was a great game and would be happy to see it come to the 360. I don't play Metal Gear Online on my PS3, but I might if it was on XBox Live (the majority of my friends don't have a PS3 yet).

kyrissbp82

um what did that 600 dollar launch price have in writing? you dont ever sell a console for 600 so if ps3 ends up a dc , its sonys fault, i like my ps3 but i dont think ps4 would be my first choice seeing as sony doubles in price all the time

since psp ,, they devoted less time in qualitry games, and more time proting over stuff from other consoles ,

and losing their exclusives left and right still mgs4 is one game only. we all should have see n this comin when nfs and all the other exclusive went 3rd party multiplatform ,

nfs spyro driver and more were the first to start this wave of lost exclusives

Umm no.GTA_MGS_1

^ second that.

if they do it, suck sony and suck playstation supremacy :(

and I suck hard cus I'm a big fanboy :(

link to check for more details

http://kotaku.com/5063447/konami-officially-comments-on-xbox-360-metal-gear-solid-4

Hanabie

Yeah it sounds like it's going to happen. Just like the PS3 keeps getting the 360 exclusives as well (Bioshock).

However if a game is released to a competing platform a year or two after it's initial launch - why do you care?

ALL exclusives are going to be gone within a couple of years according to game industry analysts - so quit worrying about it. Buy the game and enjoy the game - but quit being so damned selfish (meant to everyone who thinks that way - not you specifically) as to only want it for your platform and not being willing to share with everyone.