Playstation 3 ALREADY profitable!!! Wow!!

[QUOTE="Omnisystem"]

[QUOTE="GIJesse77"]500$ is still a lot to save up for though.clarkportmanken

$500.00 is like 2 weeks of work even if you work for minimum wage. Next person I see complain about it being too much will be sterilyzed. Go out and get a job, even if only for 2-3 weeks.

well people need money to live too lol so thats probably what they are talking about sure u can make 500 in 2 weeks but you still got bills and people have a nasty habit of wanting to eat every now and then lol.

look i luv my ps3 as much as the next person but making fun of people who can't afford one is just isn't right. if they complain about the price it is because they want one but just can't afford it yet, and i feel for them and hope one day they can afford one

also if you think 360 and Wii fanboys are just plain rude and jerks then try not to behave like them. civility is what separates us from our enemies. i do understand though were your coming form the forum is flooded with "its to expensive" threads and post but when u see one just simple not respond

Please include the 360 when you talk about how $500 PS3 is not affordable to some people. A person with neither system should think they're basically the same price.

PS3 $500

Warhawk $60 includes headset

HDMI cable $10

570$ total

360 $400

Gears of War $60

XBL gold $50

510$ total

That's a $60 difference and i don't think $60 is a make or break deal either way because both systems are going to last for atleast 3 more years. It's going to be what you're looking for. Which brand you like, the games, the movies, the controller, the online service, etc. are all bigger factors than the $60.

I have to wonder how an analyst would know which companies are profitable and which ones aren't? And if Sony were profitable months ago, why wait until now to cut prices? I don't believe that the PS3 is actually profitable any more than I believe the 360 is or isn't.

The great thing is that at $499 the PS3 is starting to become a greater value.

bdhoff

microsoft stated that on release day of halo 3 they expect for the first time to be in the black meaning not losing money, now how would they possibly be in the black if they were still losing money on every console? cheering because another company to lose money is just stupid, i'm a 360 owner but i don't sit here and celebrate if i hear news that sony is losing money on every console sold. also like some said why would sony wait so long for a price drop and why wouldnt they make it bigger if they aren't losing money on consoles anymore,it just doesn't make senseaSOUNDofREVENGE

This is madness! 360 has been on the market for 600 days and it's still not turning a profit? Weren't lemmings saying M$ turns a $70 profit per console? What happend?SergeantSnitch

[QUOTE="FireFalkon"][QUOTE="mus1523"]

Says Bloomberg: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYWkGuoeuipo&refer=home

Clearing up the trouble made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. M********t still loses money on each X*** 3** it sells, he said.

``Any price cut they try to make puts them more into the red,'' Doherty said.

mikeslemonade

In 2006 MS as a whole a made profit 12.6 billion dollars. 1.15 billion is alot for repairing 360s and refunding warranty is a lot. That is 1/12th of their income. Xbox1 project was a $4 billion loss. Also if MS is not profitable in the gaming industry then why stay. MS is not here to lose money they are here to establish a brand and make money.

Anyway i think the article is only addressing the blu-ray diodes. There's noway the PS3 is making money. If they're then why doesn't Sony drop the price even more. Sony doesn't even make that much with the PS2 as far as the system goes, so why are they trying to make money off the PS3. This is why i don't believe they're making money.

MS gaming division hasnt made a prefit yet! it is projected that it will finally make a profit when halo 3 comes out!

Sweet!

Dosen't surprize me to be honest. Sony is a hardware company. Making electronics cheaper and smaller as time goes on is one of their biggest strengths. phoonbaba098

What a rediculously funny sig you got!

[QUOTE="phoonbaba098"]Dosen't surprize me to be honest. Sony is a hardware company. Making electronics cheaper and smaller as time goes on is one of their biggest strengths. Symphonycometh

What a rediculously funny sig you got!

SotC FTW.

MS spends a lot of money trying to get games for the 360. These are things that MS bought on the top of my head that isn't 1st party:

Ninja Gaiden 2 exclusive

Paid the creator of FF1 to make RPGs exclusve to 360

Bioshock exclusive for 360 and PC

GTA investmeant (50 million)

Rare

Eternal Sonata

Basically everything that is Japanese MS will have to pay more money because they don't close relations and the 360 isn't selling well in Japan. Sony doesn't have to pay as much because they're established in everywhere.

1st party:

$1 billion towards repairs and warranty

the 360 at launch cost $625 to make and people bought the 360 at $400 so even if they're making $100 right now it doesn't balance the cost of what the 360 cost to make at launch. mikeslemonade

link on the NG2 please.

[QUOTE="Omnisystem"]

[QUOTE="GIJesse77"]500$ is still a lot to save up for though.clarkportmanken

$500.00 is like 2 weeks of work even if you work for minimum wage. Next person I see complain about it being too much will be sterilyzed. Go out and get a job, even if only for 2-3 weeks.

well people need money to live too lol so thats probably what they are talking about sure u can make 500 in 2 weeks but you still got bills and people have a nasty habit of wanting to eat every now and then lol.

look i luv my ps3 as much as the next person but making fun of people who can't afford one is just isn't right. if they complain about the price it is because they want one but just can't afford it yet, and i feel for them and hope one day they can afford one

also if you think 360 and Wii fanboys are just plain rude and jerks then try not to behave like them. civility is what separates us from our enemies. i do understand though were your coming form the forum is flooded with "its to expensive" threads and post but when u see one just simple not respond

[QUOTE="mikeslemonade"][QUOTE="FireFalkon"][QUOTE="mus1523"]

Says Bloomberg: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYWkGuoeuipo&refer=home

Clearing up the trouble made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. M********t still loses money on each X*** 3** it sells, he said.

``Any price cut they try to make puts them more into the red,'' Doherty said.

winner-ps3

In 2006 MS as a whole a made profit 12.6 billion dollars. 1.15 billion is alot for repairing 360s and refunding warranty is a lot. That is 1/12th of their income. Xbox1 project was a $4 billion loss. Also if MS is not profitable in the gaming industry then why stay. MS is not here to lose money they are here to establish a brand and make money.

Anyway i think the article is only addressing the blu-ray diodes. There's noway the PS3 is making money. If they're then why doesn't Sony drop the price even more. Sony doesn't even make that much with the PS2 as far as the system goes, so why are they trying to make money off the PS3. This is why i don't believe they're making money.

MS gaming division hasnt made a prefit yet! it is projected that it will finally make a profit when halo 3 comes out!

I thought this was a very interesting read, not recent butputs into context how much MS has already spent on their entertainment division including the Zune and the Xbox

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5296&Itemid=2

"Making money, e.g., the creation of long-term shareholder value, has got to be the ultimate driver of Microsoft's gaming (and H&E) strategy, right?" Ehrenberg writes. "Well, after five years and over $21 billion invested all they've got to show for it is $5.4 billion of cumulative operating losses, and Xbox 360 doesn't appear to be the silver bullet to turn things around."

It's a compelling argument that's been revisited time and again. Microsoft's Xbox business is a huge investment and it continues to lose money. Investors are still waiting to see if this little videogame venture is worth it."

To say MS has bottomless pockets of money is an illusion, they cut non profitable ventures just like anyother company does. And theyre still losing more than they need to with purchasing exclusive rights to gameswhich should have been used to address and fix the rampant hardware problems

But I digress, it is still too early to tell who will come out on top. Although I do believe putting the entire weight of the Xbox brand on one game franchise, Halo, is a mistake. Just how big of a mistake yet to be seen and is already evident ie Whats after Halo. I curious to see if MS has anything else that will be close to or as successful as Halo, which single handedly put the Xbox on the game industry map

[QUOTE="longhorn7"][QUOTE="bdhoff"][QUOTE="Crazy87"]

[QUOTE="GIJesse77"]500$ is still a lot to save up for though.bdhoff

not if you have a job i hate ppl that complain about the price cause they dont have a job and cant pay for it its anonnying

If i went to the stock market using your logic then I would invest in a company that already has realised it's potential, such as microsoft, and while I know i would not lose much money, I would most likely not make too much money either. That is not something someone who is informed does. Someone who is informed would have been able to see the same company 20 years ago when it was on the rise and had nothing but the promise of a strong future going for it, and would have been able to invest in microsoft then. He would have ran the risk of losing his investment, but because he was informed he ultimately made the right decision by taking that risk and would now be a millionaire. You cannot become a winner by joining a side that has already won, but you can become a winner by being part of that side when it is the underdog to win. Any other way you are just someone who jumps onto the next big thing and is never really a part of any cause to begin with. (Do not take that too literally about the whole console wars bs because that is not what I am talking about I am talking about that outlook on life in general)

The playstation 3 has already shown itself to be a reliable investment not only because of the extremely strong titles already slated for release, but the accomplishments it has made with the blu-ray disc. Not only has it pushed the format into the mainstream and almost completely shoved out the competing format in under a year's time, but when you look at gaes like MGS4, which is taking up 48 gigs of memory, and Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, which has used the disc in order to completely get rid of load times it is blatantly apparrent which console was made with the future in mind. So go ahead and jump on your bandwagon now, because in 1-2 years time you will be jumping on a new one. Only, I bet when that time comes you will be singing a different tune, and according to yourself you would have been an "informed consumer" from the start and had always been a ps3 supporter, right? Because an "informed consumer" is never wrong.

[QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"][QUOTE="bdhoff"][QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"]Wow you got to be joking or are you really thet clueless. Resistance and Motorstorm are must have game's so keep your biased opinions to yourself. And your line about beinga informed consumer, well lets see all of us early adopters were right. We chose the right format for movies so don't feel to bad you will get a great add on in about a year and a half. So please take you opinions some where else.GTA_Vice_City

i agree with 2 beers. anyone who wants something expensive, knows what theyre getting into. if someone truely wants something, they work hard to get it. i know i did. and im loving every second of having it. i never once did complain, and ipity people who do. complaining is for the weak.this is why i tip my hat off to 2 beers. he said something ive been thinking of for a while.

[QUOTE="GTA_Vice_City"][QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"][QUOTE="bdhoff"][QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"]Wow you got to be joking or are you really thet clueless. Resistance and Motorstorm are must have game's so keep your biased opinions to yourself. And your line about beinga informed consumer, well lets see all of us early adopters were right. We chose the right format for movies so don't feel to bad you will get a great add on in about a year and a half. So please take you opinions some where else.SikKwuN

i agree with 2 beers. anyone who wants something expensive, knows what theyre getting into. if someone truely wants something, they work hard to get it. i know i did. and im loving every second of having it. i never once did complain, and pity people who do. this is why i tip my hat off to 2 beers. he said something ive been thinking of for a while.

[QUOTE="FireFalkon"][QUOTE="mus1523"]

Says Bloomberg: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYWkGuoeuipo&refer=home

Clearing up the trouble made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. M********t still loses money on each X*** 3** it sells, he said.

``Any price cut they try to make puts them more into the red,'' Doherty said.

mikeslemonade

In 2006 MS as a whole a made profit 12.6 billion dollars. 1.15 billion is alot for repairing 360s and refunding warranty is a lot. That is 1/12th of their income. Xbox1 project was a $4 billion loss. Also if MS is not profitable in the gaming industry then why stay. MS is not here to lose money they are here to establish a brand and make money.

Anyway i think the article is only addressing the blu-ray diodes. There's noway the PS3 is making money. If they're then why doesn't Sony drop the price even more. Sony doesn't even make that much with the PS2 as far as the system goes, so why are they trying to make money off the PS3. This is why i don't believe they're making money.

[QUOTE="mikeslemonade"][QUOTE="FireFalkon"][QUOTE="mus1523"]

Says Bloomberg: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYWkGuoeuipo&refer=home

Clearing up the trouble made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. M********t still loses money on each X*** 3** it sells, he said.

``Any price cut they try to make puts them more into the red,'' Doherty said.

Mandingo101

In 2006 MS as a whole a made profit 12.6 billion dollars. 1.15 billion is alot for repairing 360s and refunding warranty is a lot. That is 1/12th of their income. Xbox1 project was a $4 billion loss. Also if MS is not profitable in the gaming industry then why stay. MS is not here to lose money they are here to establish a brand and make money.

Anyway i think the article is only addressing the blu-ray diodes. There's noway the PS3 is making money. If they're then why doesn't Sony drop the price even more. Sony doesn't even make that much with the PS2 as far as the system goes, so why are they trying to make money off the PS3. This is why i don't believe they're making money.

[QUOTE="GIJesse77"]500$ is still a lot to save up for though.Omnisystem

$500.00 is like 2 weeks of work even if you work for minimum wage. Next person I see complain about it being too much will be sterilyzed. Go out and get a job, even if only for 2-3 weeks.

except for the fact that they need to pay for their home and food? $500/2 weeks is hardly enough to live on - hence MINIMUM wage...but sure, who needs a food and a home when you can buy a ps3 that will run on air (no home for electricity, and let's not forget about that bill) with the largest TV EVER - THE SKY!

[QUOTE="stygiansanity"]

[QUOTE="bdhoff"][QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"]Wow you got to be joking or are you really thet clueless. Resistance and Motorstorm are must have game's so keep your biased opinions to yourself. And your line about beinga informed consumer, well lets see all of us early adopters were right. We chose the right format for movies so don't feel to bad you will get a great add on in about a year and a half. So please take you opinions some where else.2beers_in_hand

can't wait to see his reponse to that :P

but what I find funny is how so many people have faith in a company that's only goal is to profit...like, how could you get excited about a sixaxis with rumble after sony said that it's undoable and now you'll be forced to buy new controllers, DMC4 probably going multi-plat, and the possibility of MGS4/MGS game going multi-plat.

nah, points suck.

Warrenty extended doesn't matter because, I really won't be needing it, believe it or not. But hey, if I do need it, I've got it...I find it funny that you are pissed that I'm recieving free hardware repairs.

MGS4 rumor hasn't been settled yet. I doubt it's true, being that the game spans over the entire BD-ROM, but they never denied the possibility of a MGS title on the other 2 systems.

And a piece of advice, stop being a fan boy...and I'm not going ot call you a 12 year old, because if you denied that (claiming to be older), that would just be embarresing for you.

[QUOTE="mus1523"]

Says Bloomberg: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYWkGuoeuipo&refer=home

Clearing up the trouble made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. M********t still loses money on each X*** 3** it sells, he said.

``Any price cut they try to make puts them more into the red,'' Doherty said.

FireFalkon

Just so you know Bill Gates is now the 4th riches man in the world, used to be #1, not anymore though.

[QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"]Wow you got to be joking or are you really thet clueless. Resistance and Motorstorm are must have game's so keep your biased opinions to yourself. And your line about beinga informed consumer, well lets see all of us early adopters were right. We chose the right format for movies so don't feel to bad you will get a great add on in about a year and a half. So please take you opinions some where else.bdhoff

We got to play the ps3 for 8 months before the price drop, I'd say the extra hundred bucks was worth it to be enjoying blu-ray movies and games as an early adopter for 8 months. For the fun I've been having, I'd say it is the best 600 bucks I've ever spent. So you pay a little more to get the system early, not too bad if you can afford it. Most early adopters are willing to pay a premium to have new technology they want right away, just look at the iphone. In a few months they will reduce the iphone price too, but if u really want one now, you won't mind paying a premium for it.

as expected

you dont have to pay the full price if you use your own parts inside the boxblu-ray, cell

where micorosft has to pay the full price for the cpu and dvd drive i mean they have to buy their xbox360

FireFalkon

While MS has a ton of cash, they can't just keep losing it. They are a public traded company and they have shareholders and a board that they are accountable to. Companies are in business to make money, not lose it.

[QUOTE="GIJesse77"]500$ is still a lot to save up for though.Crazy87

not if you have a job i hate ppl that complain about the price cause they dont have a job and cant pay for it its anonnying

I have a decent job and I can pay all my bills with more to spend, $500 means staying at home playing DnD with the lights out for4 weeks.

xbox 360s are made at a profit as well, minus the repairs of course. kevy619

did you even read the article?

But I guess you shouldn't believe every you read on the internet... it's just interesting.

[QUOTE="FireFalkon"][QUOTE="mus1523"]

Says Bloomberg: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYWkGuoeuipo&refer=home

Clearing up the trouble made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. M********t still loses money on each X*** 3** it sells, he said.

``Any price cut they try to make puts them more into the red,'' Doherty said.

mr_so_evil

I believe it only pertains to the same product, I'd have to find a law book with the article and code, ya know?

[QUOTE="kevy619"]xbox 360s are made at a profit as well, minus the repairs of course. ngoniko

did you even read the article?

But I guess you shouldn't believe every you read on the internet... it's just interesting.

yes i did read it,i dont know what to believe anymore. There's conflicting reports out there now, somebody must be lying. How can the ps3 be profitable? I think the article should read something like this, "sony's game division is profitable, although the ps3 is still losing money the strong sales of the psp and the ps2 as well as continued strong sales of ps2 games are making up for it."

[QUOTE="FireFalkon"]adamatoms

While MS has a ton of cash, they can't just keep losing it. They are a public traded company and they have shareholders and a board that they are accountable to. Companies are in business to make money, not lose it.

Very, very true, Microsoft has never really been the best at marketing. Their strateggy has always seemed to be: "We are the best, go with us... NOW!!!"

I always wondered how their shareholders felt about it.

[QUOTE="adamatoms"]

[QUOTE="FireFalkon"]alzdaman

While MS has a ton of cash, they can't just keep losing it. They are a public traded company and they have shareholders and a board that they are accountable to. Companies are in business to make money, not lose it.

Very, very true, Microsoft has never really been the best at marketing. Their strateggy has always seemed to be: "We are the best, go with us... NOW!!!"

I always wondered how their shareholders felt about it.

LOL, microsoft makes 40 billion a year. The xbox project is small patatoes to the shareholders. Its not like they invest in xbox, they invest in microsoft. microsoft was so big that the us government forced them to split in two, out of fear that the company was getting too powerful. Im glad sony has an oponent like microsoft,without this war we wouldnt be seeing the crazy games/technologies we are today. Anyone like wrestling here? The best years to watch wrestling were when wcw and wwf were competing, they just both tried so much harder to beat the other guy. I think its great that we are seeing something similar in video games. like wcw, microsoft will eventuallygain the upper hand i predict, and im excited to see what sony will do when they are no longer in the lead.

[QUOTE="GIJesse77"]500$ is still a lot to save up for though.Omnisystem

$500.00 is like 2 weeks of work even if you work for minimum wage. Next person I see complain about it being too much will be sterilyzed. Go out and get a job, even if only for 2-3 weeks.

What a dumb A$$, people have jobs to pay things like rent, utilities, car payment, food you know things that you NEED to survive in this world. Not every one has 500 bucks of expendable income. I have a very good job and I still think that the PS3 is a little on the pricy side. When mommy and daddy aren't supporting you then come and talk about "just work a couple of weeks and buy you one" what crap, it does no good to have a PS3 if you don't have a place to plug it in. By the way I also think the 360 is a little on the pricy side. Some people like supporting there families over playing games. This is the reason Sony had to start cutting the price because allot of WORKING people still could not afford one. They are on the right track and I hope they do well.

[QUOTE="Omnisystem"]

[QUOTE="GIJesse77"]500$ is still a lot to save up for though.Deathwish1969

$500.00 is like 2 weeks of work even if you work for minimum wage. Next person I see complain about it being too much will be sterilyzed. Go out and get a job, even if only for 2-3 weeks.

What a dumb A$$, people have jobs to pay things like rent, utilities, car payment, food you know things that you NEED to survive in this world. Not every one has 500 bucks of expendable income. I have a very good job and I still think that the PS3 is a little on the pricy side. When mommy and daddy aren't supporting you then come and talk about "just work a couple of weeks and buy you one" what crap, it does no good to have a PS3 if you don't have a place to plug it in. By the way I also think the 360 is a little on the pricy side. Some people like supporting there families over playing games. This is the reason Sony had to start cutting the price because allot of WORKING people still could not afford one. They are on the right track and I hope they do well.

Agreed

[QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"][QUOTE="stygiansanity"]

[QUOTE="bdhoff"][QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"]Wow you got to be joking or are you really thet clueless. Resistance and Motorstorm are must have game's so keep your biased opinions to yourself. And your line about beinga informed consumer, well lets see all of us early adopters were right. We chose the right format for movies so don't feel to bad you will get a great add on in about a year and a half. So please take you opinions some where else.stygiansanity

can't wait to see his reponse to that :P

but what I find funny is how so many people have faith in a company that's only goal is to profit...like, how could you get excited about a sixaxis with rumble after sony said that it's undoable and now you'll be forced to buy new controllers, DMC4 probably going multi-plat, and the possibility of MGS4/MGS game going multi-plat.

nah, points suck.

Warrenty extended doesn't matter because, I really won't be needing it, believe it or not. But hey, if I do need it, I've got it...I find it funny that you are pissed that I'm recieving free hardware repairs.

MGS4 rumor hasn't been settled yet. I doubt it's true, being that the game spans over the entire BD-ROM, but they never denied the possibility of a MGS title on the other 2 systems.

And a piece of advice, stop being a fan boy...and I'm not going ot call you a 12 year old, because if you denied that (claiming to be older), that would just be embarresing for you.

Andonce again give it upuntil you have confirmation that its a multi-plat, we here have to endure that garbage day in and day out. By trolls just like you.

Oh and here's a rule of thumb for you. When you have to break out theyour a 12 year old bit. It doesn't disguise the fact that your an immature little kid trying to compansatefor his lack of any type ofdebating skills.

500$ is still a lot to save up for though.GIJesse77

The only reason it's too expensive for me is because I'm unemployed, have $13 in the bank and have to pay over $1000 for textbooks in September... i need a job...

[QUOTE="GIJesse77"]500$ is still a lot to save up for though.nacademy

The only reason it's too expensive for me is because I'm unemployed, have $13 in the bank and have to pay over $1000 for textbooks in September... i need a job...

[QUOTE="mus1523"]

Says Bloomberg: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYWkGuoeuipo&refer=home

Clearing up the trouble made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. M********t still loses money on each X*** 3** it sells, he said.

``Any price cut they try to make puts them more into the red,'' Doherty said.

FireFalkon

So, not only are the "competitors" losing money on each console sold, they're losing $1 billion on warranty extensions?

This is unbelievably good news. Unbelievably good.

Redfingers

Please dun be so generous.. it is $1.5 billion.

I just don't think it's possible that the 360 is still losing money after being out as long as its been out and somehow the ps3 is now making money on each console after being out such a short time. If it was that easy for the ps3 to become profitable they never would have started with price points as high as they did bein 500 and 600. The bottom line is if somehow the ps3 is making money on each console then you can be sure that the 360 is also making money on each console.aSOUNDofREVENGE

That is not true. Sony as a company has a division of people that's soul job is to determine the maximum price/demand point. They did this to make to most off of launch sales. They probably could have sold the console for a lot less before now but why would they when they could have been making money. Now that it costs less to make the console Sony can afford to drop the price and still maintain a high inflow of profit.

If the PS3 is making money on each console that in no way is an indicator that the 360 is also making money on each console. However, I do believe that Microsoft announced a while back that they are now in the black with every console they make. But, you should consider that they are losing over 1 Billion dollars on warranty extensions. Sony is continuing to prove that their product will become to dominant hardware in this console war. Notice that I said "will" not "is". Sony still has a way to go but with every move they make they get closer and closer to the top.

[QUOTE="stygiansanity"][QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"][QUOTE="stygiansanity"]

[QUOTE="bdhoff"][QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"]Wow you got to be joking or are you really thet clueless. Resistance and Motorstorm are must have game's so keep your biased opinions to yourself. And your line about beinga informed consumer, well lets see all of us early adopters were right. We chose the right format for movies so don't feel to bad you will get a great add on in about a year and a half. So please take you opinions some where else.2beers_in_hand

can't wait to see his reponse to that :P

but what I find funny is how so many people have faith in a company that's only goal is to profit...like, how could you get excited about a sixaxis with rumble after sony said that it's undoable and now you'll be forced to buy new controllers, DMC4 probably going multi-plat, and the possibility of MGS4/MGS game going multi-plat.

nah, points suck.

Warrenty extended doesn't matter because, I really won't be needing it, believe it or not. But hey, if I do need it, I've got it...I find it funny that you are pissed that I'm recieving free hardware repairs.

MGS4 rumor hasn't been settled yet. I doubt it's true, being that the game spans over the entire BD-ROM, but they never denied the possibility of a MGS title on the other 2 systems.

And a piece of advice, stop being a fan boy...and I'm not going ot call you a 12 year old, because if you denied that (claiming to be older), that would just be embarresing for you.

Andonce again give it upuntil you have confirmation that its a multi-plat, we here have to endure that garbage day in and day out. By trolls just like you.

Oh and here's a rule of thumb for you. When you have to break out theyour a 12 year old bit. It doesn't disguise the fact that your an immature little kid trying to compansatefor his lack of any type ofdebating skills.

I'm trolling the PS3 forums, ok, but being I own a PS3 it actually means I'm speaking my opinion rather than just saying bull sh!t, but I'm sure you'll just find another label for what I am, being our opinions conflict, that is, you being a sony fanboy, or maybe just a MS hater. I've not once paid for a repair being I've never needed to, and nor any of my friends that own a 360.

I don't get why you are in denial that MGS might go to the Wii or the x360, they do have a larger userbase. I'm not saying MGS4, per say, but just another title, not one necessarily equal to that of MGS4, but just another title...so relax, ps3 still has this gem.

Good job deflecting the 12 year-old bit back on to me, which is ironic, being that you said calling someone a 12 year-old is immature and "trying to compansate for his lack of any type of debating skills "...but, hey, you caught me, I have terrible debating skills and that's why you resorting to calling me a troll rather than actually defending your position.

I guess you'll just deflect that ^ by saying that I initiated it by hinting that you might be a pathetic kid/adult, so I guess I shouldn't have been surprised to see your "troll-calling" as a response.