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#51 AlexSays
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Its a military game the more realer it feel the better but Graphics and the military are like hand in hand people want to feel like they are there in the firefight.kreemghandour
And again, the focus on this game is on the large scale, not the graphics. Some of us are okay with that, but if you place such a high importance on graphics, there are plenty of other games for you to look at.
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#52 coughlanio
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This game will be easily overlooked if this is the final stage trying to go up again CODMW2 and BFBC2 . One of them games will get my money because they look and run better.

kreemghandour
Well lets just say the MAG community won't miss a graphics fiend like yourself :) And "realer", is not a word.
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#53 Mr_Tonylope
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Gameplay is a much more important factor to video games than graphics are (imo). A good game doesn't need great graphics to be fun, it needs fun/challenging(the good kind, not the pull your hair out kind)/intuitive gameplay. Graphics aren't worth much if the game isn't any fun to play.

Anyway MAG is trying to have 256 players on one battlefield at once, they're going have to sacrifice a lot to have that many people there and a steady framerate.

If this games graphics are such a problem to you, when it comes out DON'T BUY IT.

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#54 JoKeR_421
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Dude, guess what..... That is MAG. :(Nephilim83
hey man i dont know about u, but i feel its pointless by now pointin out the good things in a game( wat makes a great game, great!) lol graphics dont mean anythin, but he fails to realizes this? dont know why but, do u? lol
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#55 Teyon
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I don't think MAG is due out next month or the month after so if polishing graphics is your only concern, there's time for that. Honestly, I think this looks a cut above WarHawk at the moment and that was/is all the rage with some folks. No reason a little thing like bullet holes should get in the way of the game doing well. If anything will be a sign of how well this game does, it'll be how they expect 128 players to get along (128vs128=256) . If anything kills this game, it'll be the fact that people tend to want to do their own thing and couldn't give a rats ass about the chain of command MAG's developers are trying to establish. Any graphical problems will be a secondary complaint if not completely inconsequential in comparison. The gameplay is far more important than the visuals in a game like this.

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#56 Diddies
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Still man this game was supposed to be the make up for a wack Socom are you getting the picture. I thought Zipper would have done something better because it looks bad on the trailer. I think 256 is just to much they should have just made it 128 player or heck even 64 and just work on making it a solid game. Making it something that we can play for a long time and say heck that was a great game. It looks really bad imo from the trailer view.

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Wack Socom? What wack Socom are you talking about? Well I guess everyone has there own opinions.

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#57 navstar29
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Yes because rendering 256 people at the same time from a dedicated server while maintaining Killzone 2 level graphics is so easy. I mean its so easy I could probably code it in VB ... no DOS.
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#58 punkdave
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What about WoW? I didn't like the game myself, but isn't that a very good example where the graphics were crap, but A LOT of people enjoyed the game despite that because of its SCALE and GAMEPLAY.

Now maybe the bullet holes don't look pretty, or the blood doesn't splatter all realistically, blah blah blah, who gives a crap?

You are right to some extent, bad graphics might indicate that a game might be bad, but wouldn't you rather wait until reviews come out or you hear from your friends before you totally pass on it? It's almost like saying a movie is bad just because it has bad special effects. It's not a hard concept to grasp, and if 10 people and 3 pages of posts can't convince you, then I don't know what can!

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#59 bussinrounds
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Socom had some good things about it - the maps, slower movement, more recoil, GREAT sound, no respawn games, clear mics. And some bad things - 3rd person view ( unrealistic for a supposed realistic shooter, not enough maps/guns ) But the lag and stuttering really killed it for me though.
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#60 Diddies
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Socom had some good things about it - the maps, slower movement, more recoil, GREAT sound, no respawn games, clear mics. And some bad things - 3rd person view ( unrealistic for a supposed realistic shooter, not enough maps/guns ) But the lag and stuttering really killed it for me though.bussinrounds

Well the 3rd person perspective is an opinion but lag. There almost isn't any lag now. Try it out...I promise...Trust me. I havn't had any lag since the latest update.

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#61 JoKeR_421
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[QUOTE="bussinrounds"]Socom had some good things about it - the maps, slower movement, more recoil, GREAT sound, no respawn games, clear mics. And some bad things - 3rd person view ( unrealistic for a supposed realistic shooter, not enough maps/guns ) But the lag and stuttering really killed it for me though.Diddies

Well the 3rd person perspective is an opinion but lag. There almost isn't any lag now. Try it out...I promise...Trust me. I havn't had any lag since the latest update.

yea, the last update helped alot, and even if theres alil problem here and there, im pretty sure they will patch it and fix it, since its easier to patch games now, even if they put a almost half finished game out, by the end of the month ull have few patches and all the problems ppl complain about is gone.
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#62 Nephilim83
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[QUOTE="Nephilim83"] hey man i dont know about u, but i feel its pointless by now pointin out the good things in a game( wat makes a great game, great!) lol graphics dont mean anythin, but he fails to realizes this? dont know why but, do u? lolJoKeR_421
[QUOTE="Nephilim83"]Dude, guess what..... That is MAG. :(JoKeR_421
hey man i dont know about u, but i feel its pointless by now pointin out the good things in a game( wat makes a great game, great!) lol graphics dont mean anythin, but he fails to realizes this? dont know why but, do u? lol

No. Its obviously hopeless. That's why I said my final piece there and went to bed. lol
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#63 Sokol4ever
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It's a lot of players to manage in one huge map.

MAG looks pretty good considering what it aims for, I'm pretty sure just like SOCOM before it, MAG will be superb when it comes to gameplay mechanics and that's what counts in this type of games.

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#64 shadowkiller11
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i guess you haven't played many games, graphics are decent.
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#65 Rhen_Var
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Dude if there were no graphics how would you play a game?

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I stopped reading here. The TC has also mentioned that the new trend of games are about graphics and some gameplay, but mostly graphics. If this is going to be the trend next generation then screw it all. I'll get myself a Wii and a new PS2 Slim.
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#66 GodofBigMacs
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I don't care if the graphics were 8-bit quality... if they can pull of 256 players, I'm in.
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#67 The_Rick_14
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The TC wants to come here and complain about the graphics in MAG which if they were complaints that directly affected gameplay I might actually agree with him, but "the bullet holes in the wall don't look real enough for me". Come on. When you're trying to run 256 players online and accomplish an unthinkable goal for a console, there are going to be certain corners that need to be cut to make that happen with solid gameplay. COD4 was not a smash hit because its graphics were so good. It was such a great game because it was a high-speed, intense shooter with a framerate that kept up with it. As far as I'm concerned with a shooter, if the graphics are good enough that I can spot and enemy whenever within range of my weapon, and the game runs silky smooth with no frame hiccups that interrupt my aiming, then the graphics are good enough. You appear to need FAR more than that. It's sad that you're dismissing the game this early because of one trailer and some screens.
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#68 ANIALATOR136
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Still man this game was supposed to be the make up for a wack Socom are you getting the picture. I thought Zipper would have done something better because it looks bad on the trailer. I think 256 is just to much they should have just made it 128 player or heck even 64 and just work on making it a solid game. Making it something that we can play for a long time and say heck that was a great game. It looks really bad imo from the trailer view.

kreemghandour
I know exactly what your talking about. This game is really only being made to see if 256 players is possible. Stick to Story and Graphics Developers!
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#69 donmega1
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you so uninformed. its sad. maybe one day your brain will understand.

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#70 Nephilim83
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This dude is trolling. He says he's here for a debate, but his argument is weak and one-sided. Stop feeding this troll.
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#71 Ilikemyname420
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There's only 2 ways you could manage 256 people in one game: 1) make all the characters look identical to each other with high texture detail and modelling or 2) have some variety to the characters but dumb down textures and models.

It's the same problem multiplayer games with lots of people have had for years, it either looks under-par with the current gen or you're left with cookie cutter characters to save resources.

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#72 The_Rick_14
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[QUOTE="kreemghandour"]

Still man this game was supposed to be the make up for a wack Socom are you getting the picture. I thought Zipper would have done something better because it looks bad on the trailer. I think 256 is just to much they should have just made it 128 player or heck even 64 and just work on making it a solid game. Making it something that we can play for a long time and say heck that was a great game. It looks really bad imo from the trailer view.

ANIALATOR136
I know exactly what your talking about. This game is really only being made to see if 256 players is possible. Stick to Story and Graphics Developers!

Yea who cares if the controls are weak or if the analog stick control is jerky, as long as there is a sweet story and I can stare at the great graphics. That's definitely why I spend money on game.
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#73 TheGreatOutdoor
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Quick question. You ever play games before this gen? [QUOTE="kreemghandour"]I mean KZ2 and Uncharted should be the standards for gamesAlexSays
The very best when it comes to graphics should be the standard? It'd be nice but that's not how that works.

Yea really. That's as bad as saying Crysis should be the standard for todays PC.

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#74 TheGreatOutdoor
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Of course man I had a ps1, ps2 at launch and got the ps3 during the summer of its release. Dont act like KZ2 and Uncharterd were some of the sweetest games man. Because they push the system which I know 256 players is pushing the system its just in the wrong way because the graphics are horriable man. We also know that this game was supposed to be something outstanding man and this was a big project too, I blame the developers bad judgement call on them.

kreemghandour

You :cry: a lot over graphics. If graphics are such a issue with you, then stop playing consoles and go to PC gaming. Either way, stop :cry:ing and get over it already. It's not like you are being forced to buy it. It's not like it is the only game the PS3 has to pick from. Go play something else and find something more important in life to care about.

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#75 TheGreatOutdoor
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Gameplay aint enough for anything for that game because that looks soft too. Just damn shame for some graphics for a PS3 exclusive. It wont be a hot title. And yeah it has always been about graphics or you would never own a ps3 for some nice looking graphics.

kreemghandour

No, it is all about graphics to YOU. Most of us buy our PS3 to play the games, not stare at them all day. Just because you bought a PS3 for graphics doesn't mean everybody else did. You=/=everybody. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you will stop looking so silly.

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#76 G-Legend
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Trailer about what 6 months away from release? Not only that It supports 256 who cares how it looks. It's not even final product and even if it was I still wouldn't care as long as the graphics are average for this gen and it runs smooth without lag I'll be happy. Be thankful they're not making you pay for it either, who knows this game could be amazing it could also be bad too, but from what Zipper has done in the past I'd say I expect this game to be great.

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#77 king_bobo
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Dude, they couldn't go all out with the graphics. The fact that they have to serve this up to 256 players per battle limits them quite a bit on the size and detail of the set pieces. This game is more about gameplay than anything else. Nephilim83
I totally agree with this. Expecting 256 players and graphics on the same level as Killzone 2 just seems unreasonable at the moment...
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#78 Chris_Williams
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are you complaining about bullet holes, really..... tsk......GIVE ME YOUR GAMER CARD.......your done man

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#79 kreemghandour
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This dude is trolling. He says he's here for a debate, but his argument is weak and one-sided. Stop feeding this troll.Nephilim83

Look man I aint no troll and thats an easy thing for you to say when you are loosing an argument. And some guys said if the graphics were 8bit then go back play some NES or something graphics this gen are key its a PS3 for god sake and them graphics are just bad. Watch the video also you can se obvious glitches. But I am done because you guys say I am a troll or whatever easy cop out for you guys. I could have just said Nephilim is a level 9 and he or she doesnt know what they are talking about but not my style but goodluck.

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[QUOTE="Nephilim83"]This dude is trolling. He says he's here for a debate, but his argument is weak and one-sided. Stop feeding this troll.kreemghandour

Look man I aint no troll and thats an easy thing for you to say when you are loosing an argument. And some guys said if the graphics were 8bit then go back play some NES or something graphics this gen are key its a PS3 for god sake and them graphics are just bad. Watch the video also you can se obvious glitches. But I am done because you guys say I am a troll or whatever easy cop out for you guys. I could have just said Nephilim is a level 9 and he or she doesnt know what they are talking about but not my style but goodluck.

Dude you claim to be winning an argument that is extremely opinion based. You claim graphics are key this gen. For who? For you maybe. Not necessarily for me. I'd take a game with fun game play over perfect graphics and boring any time. But thats my opinion. To say a game is going to be bad simply because bullet holes don't look amazing is pretty short-sighted I think. And to expect them to be able to pull off Killzone level graphics with 256 players online is equally short-sighted. Not to mention you go and criticize Zipper for trying to revolutionize console gaming with a brand new idea that most thought (and probably still think) isn't even possible because they don't have sweet bullet hole effects.
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#81 winner-ps3
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Ok guys I am really wondering now on what even the standard for games are looking like, but I honestly think that MAG is the most horriable thing I have ever seen. I downloaded the trailer today which I have already seen on gamestop, but I wanted to view it in HD. Now this game is just lacking on a standard bases of gaming if this is the final product. First thing I noticed was how the bullet holes on the wall tracing didnt look. Bullet holes were just lined up one after another in the most horriable effects. This was right in the beginning of the trailer, now honestly I think they better put that game back into the oven and have that game cooked more for perfection. I mean KZ2 and Uncharted should be the standards for games, graphics are top notch and everything runs so clean. This exclusive for PS3 doesnt look good if this is already the final stages of the product. What do you guys think?

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relax guy its 256 people online, and its been said the visuals match cod4
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#82 Jakesta7
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[QUOTE="kreemghandour"]It supposed to be a big release but your presenting garbage to the public.AlexSays
Garbage? Hardly. You're placing too much of an emphasis on graphics. How were you able to play any games before this gen? MAG can't run 256 players online AND look like Killzone 2, it's just unrealistic. Luckily not everyone thinks graphics = fun.

Seriously! On MAG, they foccused on HUGE Online, on Uncharted they foccused on graphics.
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#83 redskins2156
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Dude the only reason uncharted 2 and killzone 2 look so good is because you don't have 256 players on the screen at once.

Ok guys I am really wondering now on what even the standard for games are looking like, but I honestly think that MAG is the most horriable thing I have ever seen. I downloaded the trailer today which I have already seen on gamestop, but I wanted to view it in HD. Now this game is just lacking on a standard bases of gaming if this is the final product. First thing I noticed was how the bullet holes on the wall tracing didnt look. Bullet holes were just lined up one after another in the most horriable effects. This was right in the beginning of the trailer, now honestly I think they better put that game back into the oven and have that game cooked more for perfection. I mean KZ2 and Uncharted should be the standards for games, graphics are top notch and everything runs so clean. This exclusive for PS3 doesnt look good if this is already the final stages of the product. What do you guys think?

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#84 eddyka2
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[QUOTE="Nephilim83"]This dude is trolling. He says he's here for a debate, but his argument is weak and one-sided. Stop feeding this troll.kreemghandour

Look man I aint no troll and thats an easy thing for you to say when you are loosing an argument. And some guys said if the graphics were 8bit then go back play some NES or something graphics this gen are key its a PS3 for god sake and them graphics are just bad. Watch the video also you can se obvious glitches. But I am done because you guys say I am a troll or whatever easy cop out for you guys. I could have just said Nephilim is a level 9 and he or she doesnt know what they are talking about but not my style but goodluck.

Ok man you need to stop arguing man and realise that you can't win. MAG may not have the best graphics man but 256 players and good controls will make me forget about the graphics. And by the way man this game could be pushed back into 2010 which will give them plenty of time to polish the graphics...........man.

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#85 NYiVtec
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when theres 128 people shooting at you, you wont have time to look at the was the bullets hit the wall

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#86 toronto969
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I have never once bought a game because the graphics were good, never. I don't know what the graphics will be like in the end, but that trailer was released over 2 weeks ago, which means the stuff in it was probably from two months ago, and the game is still months off from being released. Lots of time for changes.

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#87 JoKeR_421
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[QUOTE="kreemghandour"]

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"]This dude is trolling. He says he's here for a debate, but his argument is weak and one-sided. Stop feeding this troll.The_Rick_14

Look man I aint no troll and thats an easy thing for you to say when you are loosing an argument. And some guys said if the graphics were 8bit then go back play some NES or something graphics this gen are key its a PS3 for god sake and them graphics are just bad. Watch the video also you can se obvious glitches. But I am done because you guys say I am a troll or whatever easy cop out for you guys. I could have just said Nephilim is a level 9 and he or she doesnt know what they are talking about but not my style but goodluck.

Dude you claim to be winning an argument that is extremely opinion based. You claim graphics are key this gen. For who? For you maybe. Not necessarily for me. I'd take a game with fun game play over perfect graphics and boring any time. But thats my opinion. To say a game is going to be bad simply because bullet holes don't look amazing is pretty short-sighted I think. And to expect them to be able to pull off Killzone level graphics with 256 players online is equally short-sighted. Not to mention you go and criticize Zipper for trying to revolutionize console gaming with a brand new idea that most thought (and probably still think) isn't even possible because they don't have sweet bullet hole effects.

u know from everyone here that posted, only 1% are agreeing with him and 99% of us dont care about graphics as long as the gameplay is solid. i have giving up on explaining to this guy, he really is trollin and i dont care wat anyone says. he doesnt even back up hes statement he just complains about graphics, graphics and more graphics, now i know that he doesnt even know anythin about gaming
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#88 Dan_Lero
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Now this game is just lacking on a standard bases of gaming if this is the final product.kreemghandour
If it's the final product why hasn't it been released? Besides they're probably are still in Alpha stage at the min and haven't even hit Beta phase yet, let alone the Review Code or even Final Retail Code!!

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#89 Nephilim83
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[QUOTE="Nephilim83"]This dude is trolling. He says he's here for a debate, but his argument is weak and one-sided. Stop feeding this troll.kreemghandour

Look man I aint no troll and thats an easy thing for you to say when you are loosing an argument. And some guys said if the graphics were 8bit then go back play some NES or something graphics this gen are key its a PS3 for god sake and them graphics are just bad. Watch the video also you can se obvious glitches. But I am done because you guys say I am a troll or whatever easy cop out for you guys. I could have just said Nephilim is a level 9 and he or she doesnt know what they are talking about but not my style but goodluck.

Lol. First of all, you are not winning. This is completely opinion-based, so there can be no true winner. All I'm saying is that graphics aren't as important to a lot of us; especially not as important as they seem to be to you. And I'm a level nine because I'm new to GS not because I'm new to gaming. I played the Atari for god's sake. I played the sega, sega genesis, and NES when they first came out. I'm used to horrible graphics. Horrible gameplay, however, is something I could never stomach. And even the best of graphics couldn't redeem shotty gameplay for me. Anyway, the way in which you are presenting your argument is very troll-like. You are stating that graphics are the most impotant and that MAG looks horrible as if its fact when its actually based on your own opinion. Statements like that are a what trolls are all about. If you're not trolling then I apologize to you. But, please, don't be so brutally overbearing with your opinions. Peace.
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[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="kreemghandour"]It supposed to be a big release but your presenting garbage to the public.kreemghandour

Garbage? Hardly. You're placing too much of an emphasis on graphics. How were you able to play any games before this gen? MAG can't run 256 players online AND look like Killzone 2, it's just unrealistic. Luckily not everyone thinks graphics = fun.

Listen to this how was I able to play games last gen. Your eyes dont deceive you........? When u played last gen you were waying they were the best graphics. Now this gen your eye loves this gens graphics. And when you do decide to play last gen dont you notice a significant change? You never ask yourself "Damn?" if not you must be a miniority that say that.

I still play ps1 games on occasion and the graphics don't bother me.

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#91 shabab12
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Yeah and it is junk. If thats what they call a exclusive game for the PS3 they might as well NOT.

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Your true side shows. Due to the way the gameplay is recorded it looks slightly out of focus. It still looks better than the so called 'big' shooters around that the moment on the 'other consoles'
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#93 BaraChat
Member since 2008 • 3144 Posts

Ok I'll go watch MAG's trailer in HD now.

*actually goes and watches it*

(My Internet connection s*cks bad)

Well it's only a trailer, first of all. The graphics aren't as good as some other games I've played, but they're good enough.

And it's a trailer, like I said, so I guess the game will be better looking when released.

The gameplay seems a bit chaotic, 256 players on a single map, sounds like a headache to me, although real war/gunfight does include more than like 16 players in a gigantic area.

Should be fun though.

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#94 12345678ew
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it looks ok, but 256 man, that rocks.

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#95 SolidusHo
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graphics is the eye candy for the simple mind. a more complex mind looks for gameplay.

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#96 Jayvan_JJ
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This game will be easily overlooked if this is the final stage trying to go up again CODMW2 and BFBC2 . One of them games will get my money because they look and run better.

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Just think of it an updated verion of WARHAWK, that's how I see it. WARHAWK is not a big fan in the graphics but it sure was fun. This CoD:MW2. BFBC2 are going to be the 4th quarter-2nd quarter leading Shooting games...
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#97 myownkeeper
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i dont care what anyone says im buying MAG on launch day

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#98 SirOWNZalot86
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have fun throwing away $60 i was all on the MAG boat too until i saw the trailer... i would rather have current gen graphics and 32 players, than ps2 graphics and 256 players... plus the gameplay seems like more of the same... this game will offer nothing new than a huge player count... if i see a trailer in the future that shows something impressive, maybe ill change my mind

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#99 good_sk8er7
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I don't think the graphics matter. I watched a preview for this and I think it looks like it will be really fun :)

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#100 The_Rick_14
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have fun throwing away $60 i was all on the MAG boat too until i saw the trailer... i would rather have current gen graphics and 32 players, than ps2 graphics and 256 players... plus the gameplay seems like more of the same... this game will offer nothing new than a huge player count... if i see a trailer in the future that shows something impressive, maybe ill change my mind

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So other games have offered the idea of a squad leader picking out objectives for his squad? If you would rather 32 players then I agree, MAG is probably not for you.