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ok here is my take on the thread creator: im peruvian 2 so you know, first of the mod chips are created in euopoe, china, etc.. soo NO, here in peru they dont create chips. then been all loyal ps3 users most of us here check a couple of different websites regularly to check on news: i have checked all over the net to try to find modchips..... FAILED. piracy in the ps3 is almost non existant. besides hardware in the ps3 is far more complicated than the 360 n wii.
+ BD blanks are SOOO expensive right now they would mamke a big profit, and no the psp-3000 can not play games off the memory stick( at least the pirated) legal ones you can.
plz as a fellow peruvian check your sources cause i know there isnt any modchip coming "soon"
i am from lithuania witch is north east of europe and the piracy is almost legal buisnes the 360,the wii,ps2,psp are hacked and games costs as much as a dvd disc in the store for psp its downloadable :( i also buy original copies and i am proud of it :) and some of my friends call me an idiot becouse the original copies of the game cost alot in here
Thats alot for a chip since games will be expensive still on a BD. I dont understand how smaller countries have such a problem with piracy.wooooodeFor a few reasons, even an basic thing like not being able to get the original copies cause there are no where to buy them. The price of games are way higher in countries out side of the US. there are heaps of reasons.
I live in Malaysia (if you know where or WHAT that is) and piracy is like, unfortunately and embarassingly, part of our culture here. The price of original games and movies here are rough conversionsof the American price and that is very expensive for Malaysians because the cost of living is just not the same! For that reason, piracy is everywhere in many East Asian countries like Malaysia. The 360 has been having pirated games for awhile now and they sell for like, RM10 ($3) each whereas the average cost a PS3 game is RM200 ($60). Meaning, you can get 10 pirated 360 games for the price of one original PS3 game, so many people opt for piracy and the 360 over the PS3.
I for one (in my country), want to support Sony and the PS3 though it's not gonna be cheap. I haven't gotten a PS3 yet, but I will soon and I really hope that the PS3 never gets pirated games and I actually believe it never will..
I think piracy for the PS3 won't exist because it's a big investment that I don't think many pirate syndicates are willing to make. Firstly, blank Blue-ray Discs aren'tcheap and secondly, the burners aren't exactly cheap as well.
Besides being a big investment, it is also a risky investment as they may not sell THAT much. Even if PS3 games get pirated, the console and pirated games'll still be more expensive than 360's and many people who'd support piracy in the first place would just want whatever's cheaper.
These are just my thoughts, doesn't necessarily mean anything. The PS3 has been around for more than 2 years now and there hasn't been any piracy which I think that says something. I do hope that PS3 games will never be pirated. It makes me feel even prouder to own the console, especially in this country. I dunno, maybe it'll be incentive for publishers to support the console more than the 360 or whatever..
if pirates couldn't pirate then we would have less pirates buying systems :lol: look momma i made another funnymachiavell8x8No. No you didn't.... lol Even if this is true and does work where're you gonna get the copies from? They still won't be cheap. A blu-ray burner for the PC is 100 dollars or more and the blank media is 20 dollars a disc! Anyone who sells them will probably want at least 30 dollars, and while that is cheaper its not cheap enough to count out online play. What would I do without KZ2 online or Metal Gear Online??? FAIL!!!!! The 360 thouh.... That's just too easy. Microsoft deserves it for cutting corners and selling garbage.
Anyone can tell me when the PS2 started seeing piracy? How long did it take pirates? If it was less than 2 years, thenI think PS3 might be safe 'cause so far, nothing has really been happenin..
PS2 was within months wasnt it??? Pretty sure I remeber a guy from my school getting it chipped reaaaal quick.
I dont see the point of getting it chipped...I mean you end up with like 250 games...of which how many are good?? Minimal...and with the risk of losing online play - no thanks
people there are no pirated games for ps3 and i think there will never will be but if it did happen there is no way im buying value less crapy pirated games
PS3 is the best and we should always support it:D
I never thought this day would come. I have 23 original ps3 games and that is the most money I have ever spent on any console. I am Egyptian and I am proud I buy original games but to say the truth some people make it harder to buy original games. For example: In Egypt all ps3 games are 110$ and up. Old games never get a price cut meaning games like assassin's creed, uncharted and even fifa 08 still sell with that price. Games like killzone 2 sell even higher. Thank God I live in the UAE, here new games cost around 54$ and games over 4-5 months get a significant price slash. I was just going to buy (Bioshock-Madden 09-Fallout 3) for 70$ !!gedo
same here in pakistan games prices never go down even if they r old . anyway pirated gamez for the 360 nd wii have been available since these consoles were realeased so no big deal bout ps3. those pirated gamez will make their way to pak soon enough
Good job on not buying the low lifes pirated games. I commend you. Now, report them.raven_squadyou guys just wanna sound like loyal fanboys, i would buy pirated games, heck its cheaper and the economy nowadays. I wouldnt report them, sony has enough money already with the T.v and everything, we shouldnt care about whether we're making them lose money, we should care about our money
What I find strange is that despite piracy the 360 sells many more cross platform games than the PS3. It currently has a larger install base, but it still seems odd.
I think Sony is better of losing any sales to people who want to play pirated games since they lose money on each unit sold and need to recoup the loss through sales of games.
Take Australia for example. There are many games that Sony will flat out just not sell out there, even when they'd already done all the proper translations, or even for a game that doesn't really need localization. In lieu of this, many stores will basically sell pre-modified consoles and the like because doing so finally enables those players to finally play the games that they've been denying the country over the years.Sony tried to take some of the stores there to Australian court, and the court ruled in favor of the modders because the modifications "enabled choice where there previously was not." So, I'm not saying they're the exact same situation, but I do have a feeling that if the country of Peru is also starved for gaming selection as well, then the local society is simply deciding that they've had enough of being left out and are going with the modchip to get their choice back.
It's not that much different from importing games from other regions, except that you're not paying the over-inflated game and shipping rates as you would with just importing. And even importing requires custom hardware most of the time in order to play correctly on your own components.codezer0
This may have been a [questionably] legitimate reason for circumventing copy protection in the past; however, I am sure the majority or people modifying consoles were not doing it so they could import legitimate copies of games.
Playstation 3 is region free when it comes to games, so Play Asia (or similar) should be able to supply you with legitimate copies of imported software on an unmodified console. There's no excuse for circumventing copy protection measures for the purpose of playing another regions' games on PS3.
[QUOTE="raven_squad"]Good job on not buying the low lifes pirated games. I commend you. Now, report them.demonslayer987you guys just wanna sound like loyal fanboys, i would buy pirated games, heck its cheaper and the economy nowadays. I wouldnt report them, sony has enough money already with the T.v and everything, we shouldnt care about whether we're making them lose money, we should care about our moneyYeah, because if Sony (and the Playstation specifically) and the developers are no longer turning profits, they lose money that would otherwise be invested in projects that would benefit us in the long run, amount of games and the quality of those that are released suffers...Use the thing between your ears.
If the ps3 got hacked, it would be on all the big news sites. Not to mention on the scene sites and modchip stores
If that's true that's amazing. Pirating Blu-Ray discs?
I'm not sure if people realize how crazy that is, those people should be working for major electronic companies for that :o
you guys just wanna sound like loyal fanboys, i would buy pirated games, heck its cheaper and the economy nowadays. I wouldnt report them, sony has enough money already with the T.v and everything, we shouldnt care about whether we're making them lose money, we should care about our moneyYeah, because if Sony (and the Playstation specifically) and the developers are no longer turning profits, they lose money that would otherwise be invested in projects that would benefit us in the long run, amount of games and the quality of those that are released suffers...Use the thing between your ears. And how many of us ACTUALLY care about a faceless company that are probably just as obsessed about saving and making money as we are? People like Sony wipe their asses with $20 bills and don't have to worry about it because of their huge cash flow. It makes sense not to pirate games, but if you have the opportunity to get something that's pretty expensive and get it for much less and not get it because you love a company too much just comes off as really naive. [spoiler] Don't take it the wrong way Raven, I just like a good argument once in a while. :P [/spoiler][QUOTE="demonslayer987"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]Good job on not buying the low lifes pirated games. I commend you. Now, report them.raven_squad
[QUOTE="raven_squad"]Yeah, because if Sony (and the Playstation specifically) and the developers are no longer turning profits, they lose money that would otherwise be invested in projects that would benefit us in the long run, amount of games and the quality of those that are released suffers...Use the thing between your ears. And how many of us ACTUALLY care about a faceless company that are probably just as obsessed about saving and making money as we are? People like Sony wipe their asses with $20 bills and don't have to worry about it because of their huge cash flow. It makes sense not to pirate games, but if you have the opportunity to get something that's pretty expensive and get it for much less and not get it because you love a company too much just comes off as really naive. [spoiler] Don't take it the wrong way Raven, I just like a good argument once in a while. :P [/spoiler][QUOTE="demonslayer987"] you guys just wanna sound like loyal fanboys, i would buy pirated games, heck its cheaper and the economy nowadays. I wouldnt report them, sony has enough money already with the T.v and everything, we shouldnt care about whether we're making them lose money, we should care about our moneysupa_badman
Ummm, your missing the point entirely though. :| If everyone shared that mindset, the game developers would be running out of money. It would no longer be profitable for them, and they would go under. It costs MONEY to make games. For alot of developers, more profit ends up meaning better games with higher production values. And as far as Sony is concerned.... they don't even need the Playstation brand to remain one of the largest electronic companies in existence...if the playstation comes even close to being a burden on them there's nothing stopping them from just letting it go really... I don't know. Maybe I am naive. But I would rather be that then a thief.
Oh, and yeah. I understand. :P No biggie.
Give me a break. PS3 is not hacked and hearsay from a salesman in Peru is what you are talking about? PS3 will get hacked some day but not from this Peru Salesman. LOL.
Sony has done very well at preventing piracy, developers should bow down and optimize exclusively on sony consoles before porting
But yeah, piracy does help the sales of some consoles. 360, ds, wii, and psp.
Theres so many people waiting for a hack before finally getting a psp go
well obviously you have a internet connection and ps3 games are region free....anyway for you to import?
I would really like to know how much the pirate games cost??? and how much for imported games?? It seems to me that for a few more Reals, or more Sols... that the import would be better with the Free Online content.
I know in Peru that the cost are outragous, same for Brasil as they JUST got the PS2 sold in that counrty FROM Sony. But its partly the Governments fault for charging such high import fees.
it was reported over a year ago that chinese hackers hacked the ps3. it funny how people keep claiming the ps3 is hack proof. what a joke grow up everything can and well be hacked!!!!!!! they sell blank bluray disks for my home recording studio that also has a bluray burner.its funny how government files,credit card,banks get hacked. but ps3 fanboys well constantly claim the ps3 so supperior its unhackable lobotomized wisdom at it's best!!
I want to bring up MW2. It's an understatement when I say TONS of people pirated that game. People got it really early and sure those people who got it got banned, but that game still got a lot of money in spite of it, and you can bet your ass that Infinity Ward is going to come up with another game no problem.
Imo, if you can give out a good quality game that's popular, chances are you wouldn't have to worry a lot about pirates. Seldom have I heard news about a company getting hit hard from pirating. Let alone a big company.
First of all, this thread is really old. Secondly, just because ps3 games might be region-free (since there is still region limitations in the BluRay standard, and every ps3 game I've purchased so far here in the states has had a Region 1 logo on it), that doesn't do jack if no stores will sell the games there. And that was the issue with Australia in particular. They shared regions with Japan and the asian continents, and many of these games were already localized for english/aussie speaking nations. Sony, for whatever reason, insisted on putting an arbitrary embargo though, making it so that nobody could get these high profile games at the same time that they'd be released elsewhere. Even Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation has mentioned of this frustration in a few reviews, when people were expecting him to review a high profile game only for it to arbitrarily not be available, or even purchaseable, in the country for at least six months after it was supposed to have released in Japan, the US, or even the EU countries that got shafted with the ps3 launch. There is also the issue about PS1 and PS2 games for these regions, because the region locking on DVD's and CD games were even more arbitrary and stupid (IMO) compared to even BluRay region locking. It's one reason I was hoping that HD-DVD would win, since that format had no region locking whatsoever.This may have been a [ questionably ] legitimate reason for circumventing copy protection in the past; however, I am sure the majority or people modifying consoles were not doing it so they could import legitimate copies of games.
Playstation 3 is region free when it comes to games, so Play Asia (or similar) should be able to supply you with legitimate copies of imported software on an unmodified console. There's no excuse for circumventing copy protection measures for the purpose of playing another regions' games on PS3.
piis3
If the ps3 could play copied games then it would be selling more than the xbox360 but it hasnt been hacked yet so it want play copied games and that it isnt likely to change for a couple of years.hurray for sony and down with piracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!conistantAGREED
Idiots. $300 also could end up costing you up to $250,000.
$300 is the same price as the ps3. I'd rather buy the games.
[QUOTE="gedo"]I never thought this day would come. I have 23 original ps3 games and that is the most money I have ever spent on any console. I am Egyptian and I am proud I buy original games but to say the truth some people make it harder to buy original games. For example: In Egypt all ps3 games are 110$ and up. Old games never get a price cut meaning games like assassin's creed, uncharted and even fifa 08 still sell with that price. Games like killzone 2 sell even higher. Thank God I live in the UAE, here new games cost around 54$ and games over 4-5 months get a significant price slash. I was just going to buy (Bioshock-Madden 09-Fallout 3) for 70$ !!Clay-End
same here in pakistan games prices never go down even if they r old . anyway pirated gamez for the 360 nd wii have been available since these consoles were realeased so no big deal bout ps3. those pirated gamez will make their way to pak soon enough
Its the same here in Nigeria,i always feel as if someone held me at gunpoint when i pay $110 for a CD either new or old knowing fully well that the original prices are $60 and below,but i'm still glad i pay to support the developers work
Its the same here in Nigeria,i always feel as if someone held me at gunpoint when i pay $110 for a CD either new or old knowing fully well that the original prices are $60 and below,but i'm still glad i pay to support the developers work
megaspiderweb09
How can you be sure the money your paying is going to the devs? I mean the guy you paid could've gotten the game from the black market or something. Unless it's a legit retailer of course.
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Its the same here in Nigeria,i always feel as if someone held me at gunpoint when i pay $110 for a CD either new or old knowing fully well that the original prices are $60 and below,but i'm still glad i pay to support the developers work
Aero5555
How can you be sure the money your paying is going to the devs? I mean the guy you paid could've gotten the game from the black market or something. Unless it's a legit retailer of course.
Well its very true they may have gotten them from the Black market,but why would they buy from the black market,its not like the games were banned from coming into this country.I'm very sure most of them ordered them from original stores but i would be stupid to think some of them dont go black market direction
i chipped my ps2 hell i can care less if people say im low for buying pirated games, at least im saving up money for other important stuff ( ps2 pirated games are 1$)[QUOTE="demonslayer987"]
[QUOTE="hot_shot_9"]
Which is why i never chipped my ps2.
I reckon pirating games is low.Denji
Despite what people might say on their "high horse". When you're "poor", it's the only option you have. Especially when they tend to "over charge" things that don't really need to be. I may have the money to buy a game now (since PS2). But back in the PS1 days, I barely had money at all. $10 vs what? $70 ~ $90? Especially if the chip itself was only $20. Realistically, what's a gamer who could only really spend $10 at best, going to do? Because I know anyone here will change their tune pretty quick when they're sailing along the poverty line without the possibility of buying legit copies. (especially how the prices were back then) I didn't chip my PS2 though as I had money to buy games since then.
I wasn't going to stop gaming because "you had to be wealthy". Piracy kept it alive during that time. And before anyone replies "how did you get a PS1 then?" It was given to me.
So in a sense, I feel (to a degree) piracy helps those who really couldn't pay all that much to begin with. Because I've been there and I had no other choice. But with that, I'm glad you cannot pirate with the PS3 ($300 and it's too expensive to do so anyways) Video games should be available to everyone.
I agree 100% with this one. I dont think ps1 wouldve been as popular in my country if it wasnt for the cheap pirated games. I remember my Dad getting me a ps1 with just 2 games that ive been playing over and over again..I was like what's the point if I cant play as much games as I want. then i decided to get it chipped just so I can enjoy my system.i chipped my ps2 hell i can care less if people say im low for buying pirated games, at least im saving up money for other important stuff ( ps2 pirated games are 1$)[QUOTE="demonslayer987"]
[QUOTE="hot_shot_9"]
Which is why i never chipped my ps2.
I reckon pirating games is low.Denji
Despite what people might say on their "high horse". When you're "poor", it's the only option you have. Especially when they tend to "over charge" things that don't really need to be. I may have the money to buy a game now (since PS2). But back in the PS1 days, I barely had money at all. $10 vs what? $70 ~ $90? Especially if the chip itself was only $20. Realistically, what's a gamer who could only really spend $10 at best, going to do? Because I know anyone here will change their tune pretty quick when they're sailing along the poverty line without the possibility of buying legit copies. (especially how the prices were back then) I didn't chip my PS2 though as I had money to buy games since then.
I wasn't going to stop gaming because "you had to be wealthy". Piracy kept it alive during that time. And before anyone replies "how did you get a PS1 then?" It was given to me.
So in a sense, I feel (to a degree) piracy helps those who really couldn't pay all that much to begin with. Because I've been there and I had no other choice. But with that, I'm glad you cannot pirate with the PS3 ($300 and it's too expensive to do so anyways) Video games should be available to everyone.
Yes very well said.[QUOTE="WhiteEagle91"]PS3 can't play pirate copies , and theres no freaking chip for it .
Some of you guys belive everything you read on here ...
sm0ke311
agree
it is impossible with ps3
It's not impossible. Technology can almost always be hacked. Sony can obviously release updates to prevent these chips being used but regardless people will find a way to make Custom firmware and what not. Piracy is wrong but we can't stop it. Not even the PS3. Although, pirating the PS3 would be absolutely stupid, financially. To get games onto a Blue Ray disc you'd need a blue ray writer and blank blue ray discs, they cost a bomb. Not to mention a chip costing 300 dollars? Man, i could buy so many games.[QUOTE="sm0ke311"][QUOTE="WhiteEagle91"]PS3 can't play pirate copies , and theres no freaking chip for it .
Some of you guys belive everything you read on here ...
Keir21
agree
it is impossible with ps3
It's not impossible. Technology can almost always be hacked. Sony can obviously release updates to prevent these chips being used but regardless people will find a way to make Custom firmware and what not. Piracy is wrong but we can't stop it. Not even the PS3. Although, pirating the PS3 would be absolutely stupid, financially. To get games onto a Blue Ray disc you'd need a blue ray writer and blank blue ray discs, they cost a bomb. Not to mention a chip costing 300 dollars? Man, i could buy so many games.everything CAN be hacked, but that does not everything IS hacked. The ps3 currently isn't so they are correct in saying it is impossible to play pirate ps3 games.
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