serial killer game anyone?

[QUOTE="dylan417"]

Ummmm, How bout No? You creep. No offense but why in the hell do you want to chop up innocent people for kicks? You are sick, watching movies is okay but a simulation of it? But as to your question, why hasn't anyone made a game like that? Because of god damn ESRB. Im sorry about being so harsh but, thats just weird, but hey, what ever floats your boat.

TriangleHard

So are people so harsh on TC?

Like you don't abuse innocents in Saint's Row 2. I bet just about anyone who played that game abused innocent bystanders all day long and had major kick out of it.

Same idea, but going into more details. Little bit more personal and darker tone.

People loved Bioshock, and some people probably loved doing mean things to little girls. How is this idea vastly different?

And Fable? Fallout 3? Gamers have been torturing innocent virtual citizens for a while now.

So why is TC's idea sick all of sudden?

Because people like to hide and feel better about themselves. Because playing a "good guy" or being on some "mission from god" makes a world of difference:roll:

Ummmm, How bout No? You creep. No offense but why in the hell do you want to chop up innocent people for kicks? You are sick, watching movies is okay but a simulation of it? But as to your question, why hasn't anyone made a game like that? Because of god damn ESRB. Im sorry about being so harsh but, thats just weird, but hey, what ever floats your boat.

dylan417

I just looked up this Campfire game... on one site they state "there is no question there is a demand for it, looking at all the inquiries we receive from dedicated fans" So there must be an audience for it. I for one wouldn't mind checking it out if it turned out to be a good game, but that's just me. It does'nt mean TC or myself are sick, it's part of human nature to be curious/interested. everyone who watches horror films can't possibly be a depraved murdering psychopath, so I don't see the big deal about playing a game where you are such a character.

I'll be surprised if the game ever gets released though. And if it is released it will no doubt cause an uproar like Manhunt and become another scapegoat for the few individuals who actually ARE sick. The gaming world is better off without this kind of stuff when it comes to bad publicity

[QUOTE="dylan417"]

Ummmm, How bout No? You creep. No offense but why in the hell do you want to chop up innocent people for kicks? You are sick, watching movies is okay but a simulation of it? But as to your question, why hasn't anyone made a game like that? Because of god damn ESRB. Im sorry about being so harsh but, thats just weird, but hey, what ever floats your boat.

JudgementEden

Tell that to the mindless masses who pick and choose what's "bad" like Jack Thompson or every irresponsible parent this part of the hemisphere.

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="dylan417"]

Ummmm, How bout No? You creep. No offense but why in the hell do you want to chop up innocent people for kicks? You are sick, watching movies is okay but a simulation of it? But as to your question, why hasn't anyone made a game like that? Because of god damn ESRB. Im sorry about being so harsh but, thats just weird, but hey, what ever floats your boat.

Denji

Tell that to the mindless masses who pick and choose what's "bad" like Jack Thompson or every irresponsible parent this part of the hemisphere.

Ummm... Because I guess most people don't find the prospect of murdering innocents repeatedly to be all that enjoyable I guess. People like to be the good guy. Stop the murderer. Not always, but mostly. raven_squad

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="Tikicobra"]That would be a horrible game. What fun is there in murdering innocents with no goal? It would be sick, controversial, and every time someone got killed, the game would be blamed for it.JudgementEden

I wouldn't mind a playing a game from the bad guys pov. I killed whisper in Fable. I was a Sith Lord in KOTOR. And I was the Scourge of the Wastes in Fallout 3. I've always played poorly with others. You should see my kill statistics in GTA4. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be the bad guy, but in order for the story to work you'd need the gamer to empathize with the protagonist. So, basically, there's have to be something redeeming about him. Like maybe somebody killed his whole family when he was a child and now he's hacking his way through humanity in hopes of finally getting revenge on the original killer. At least that way you can feel sorry for the guy and be willing to lend yourself to his cause. I don't think that's sick. But a game about a Serial Killer in the traditional sense of what that is would be about hacking up innocent girls in your dead granny's basement for no reason but shear pleasure. And that is sick. Anyway... Go games about killing!!!!!

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="Nephilim83"] That's what I was trying to say. Serial killers have no motivation to kill but that they like to kill and want to be recognized for their nasty talents. A serial killer would be a crappy protagonist. Who wants to play as an ugly freak who got tortured in high school, poked dead animals with sticks, and peaked on his own mom while she was taking a poo only to grow up and start killing women on the toilet and writing his alter ego's name on the wall with their feces as his call sign? That's what Serial killers do. And for no real reason. A game needs a story, motivation, a conflict, and a goal. What's your game gonna be about? See who can hack up the most jane does before the clock runs up? See who can stack the most bodies in the back of their white windowless cargo van before the cops arrive? Give us a little insight into what it is you want here. How would this game work? What would you do? Nephilim83

Why hasen't anyone developed a game where you play as the serial killer? Im sure it would play out much like condemmed or a resident evil game in terms of gore...

lampolo

[QUOTE="raven_squad"]Ummm... Because I guess most people don't find the prospect of murdering innocents repeatedly to be all that enjoyable I guess. People like to be the good guy. Stop the murderer. Not always, but mostly. GodofBigMacs

[QUOTE="lampolo"]

Why hasen't anyone developed a game where you play as the serial killer? Im sure it would play out much like condemmed or a resident evil game in terms of gore...

Scieran

GTA?GodofBigMacs

[QUOTE="raven_squad"]

I'm laughing at all the people who can't tell the difference between violence and depravity. TriangleHard

I'd say running over a granny for few laughs is much more depraved than hatred caused by psychological disorder, often caused by childhood trauma, which is mostly common with serial killers.

Just give me back my Manhunt games .. like the first one was ..

Manhunt 2 was a disappointment because of the blur effects over the executions ..

I want Manhunt 3 .. the way it is suppose to be ..

Why hasen't anyone developed a game where you play as the serial killer? Im sure it would play out much like condemmed or a resident evil game in terms of gore...

lampolo

soooooo.....you wanna play a sick **** runs around killing people and eating their body parts while living amongst the unknowing? or am i missing your point?

lol, i guess you can do that in fallout 3....

I'm sure it's been thought of before, but since that is so unethical to only be killing innocent people, it probably doesn't get passed ESRB. Even though games like GTA and Hitman involve elements of a serial killer, you are at least killing other criminals. It's not like the objectives are "snipe the soccer mom in the face, after she drops off her kids".

I'm sure it's been thought of before, but since that is so unethical to only be killing innocent people, it probably doesn't get passed ESRB. Even though games like GTA and Hitman involve elements of a serial killer, you are at least killing other criminals. It's not like the objectives are "snipe the soccer mom in the face, after she drops off her kids".

BPoole96

Sure, then they could make a rapist game... maybe even a pedophile one, too!

Sure, then they could make a rapist game... maybe even a pedophile one, too!

Scianix-Black

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Sure, then they could make a rapist game... maybe even a pedophile one, too!

lampolo

Wow... only in Japan folks...

i would like a one that is like the hitman games.. make some elaborate deaths, oh how i do like my poisons.. i think it would be more fun then guns and knives and that... i can turn into a mass murderer in gta3 if i wanted just sheer mindless kills.. but like a hitman mgs serial killer game would kick some major ass.. oh or just a new hitman game..

I'm sure it's been thought of before, but since that is so unethical to only be killing innocent people, it probably doesn't get passed ESRB. Even though games like GTA and Hitman involve elements of a serial killer, you are at least killing other criminals. It's not like the objectives are "snipe the soccer mom in the face, after she drops off her kids".

BPoole96

the game wouldn't be very exciting...think about it. A typical serial killers life is as follows... They do their "thing" and kill numerous people. Over time, they eventually get caught by the police. They go to court, and are most likely sentenced to life in prison or execution (depending on state). Then they spend the rest of their days in prison. So, that wouldn't be very fun sitting in a virtual prison cell with "bubba" the cell mate. :|RotaryRX7

Actually, this could be really, really interesting. It would be a several phase game:

Step one: the killings.
--the point would be to kill a lot of people however you want without getting caught. I'm thinking give the player a town about the size of a 6x7 street section of GTA4. Nothing large, but big enough to give you options. Make it smaller if we can actually enter houses/businesses. Heck, if we could enter houses/businesses one or two streets could suffice.

Step two: getting caught.
--Everyone gets caught eventually, right? Everyone makes mistakes. For some players getting caught would happen on the first kill, for others they might be able to stretch it out.
--nothing indepth regarding the court process.. maybe a cutscene or two.
--the motivation for not getting caught for as long as possible is the accumulating Badass Points for step three, someone who gets caught on the first kill wouldn't have 0 Badass points, someone who survives 5 kills, 500 badass points, with a scale that increases the more you kill.

Step three: jail.
--I loved the section of Riddick: Escape from Boucher Bay that had Riddick interacting with the prisoners. My idea? Make a full, indepth prison experience that would be similar to Rockstar's Bully game.
--This would not be "realistic", as doubtlessly someone who killed lots of people would get solitary confinement or something... although setting the game in a different time/world might allow people to suspend their disbelief.

Anyway, if a good storyline is included--with strong characters--the above outline could be really interesting to play through. It won't happen.....but I'd buy it.

such a bad idea, so messed up to stock people and kill them, i think GTA is about as far as you can take a game

Manhunt??? thats probably as close as you will getTrevCubsOr21

From all that I've heard, read and seen. Manhunt stunk. It always looked "second rate" to me.

That game would be way too controversial to ever be released

As I just said, running over a granny in GTA or whatever is nothing in comparison to the actual focus of a game being to brutally murder innocents, and attempt to get away with it, after which you have no recourse for your actions. At least the cops take notice when you go on killing sprees in GTA. Your guys' freeness with this subject is prime ammunition for anti-video game groups honestly. You all seem a bit hardened. And I'm not on nay moral high horse. I play games in which innocents are killed. I just don't find the idea of being a twisted serial killer that preys on innocents to be all that savory of a premise.

raven_squad

First, if you are making serial killer murder game, don't you think there will be a story coming with it?

Also what would a designer use as ostacle to create challenge for the game to be a game? Police would make sense don't you think?

So cops would take notice of your action, which seems to be what matters to you when it comes to making killing innocent characters ok.

I personally think it is less morally incorrect to make serial killer game as long as you flesh it out well with story. To explain the reason why the character kills, and why the character managed to get that twisted reasoning to kill. It would be like watching silence of the lamb or something. Which would also allow you to see your victims in details and feel the guilt for killing them

I also think it is much less sick compared to GTA games where the game allows you to kill innocent characters without even remote sense of guilt or reason. Basically you are allowed to kill innocent people for cheap laughs, and games like Saints Row 2 promotes that. That is much more sick than just a game with theme of serial killer as main character.

Not saying I got anything against Saints Row 2 or GTA. I find those games quite entertaining. It's a game, and I say no theme should be out of reach just because it's a game. Whatever boundary movies get, I say games should reach out that far. If people can handle movies, then they can handle games.

Well, Heavy Rain is a serial killer game, so we can only wait for that to come out. :)

[QUOTE="raven_squad"]

As I just said, running over a granny in GTA or whatever is nothing in comparison to the actual focus of a game being to brutally murder innocents, and attempt to get away with it, after which you have no recourse for your actions. At least the cops take notice when you go on killing sprees in GTA. Your guys' freeness with this subject is prime ammunition for anti-video game groups honestly. You all seem a bit hardened. And I'm not on nay moral high horse. I play games in which innocents are killed. I just don't find the idea of being a twisted serial killer that preys on innocents to be all that savory of a premise.

TriangleHard

First, if you are making serial killer murder game, don't you think there will be a story coming with it?

Also what would a designer use as ostacle to create challenge for the game to be a game? Police would make sense don't you think?

So cops would take notice of your action, which seems to be what matters to you when it comes to making killing innocent characters ok.

I personally think it is less morally incorrect to make serial killer game as long as you flesh it out well with story. To explain the reason why the character kills, and why the character managed to get that twisted reasoning to kill. It would be like watching silence of the lamb or something. Which would also allow you to see your victims in details and feel the guilt for killing them

I also think it is much less sick compared to GTA games where the game allows you to kill innocent characters without even remote sense of guilt or reason. Basically you are allowed to kill innocent people for cheap laughs, and games like Saints Row 2 promotes that. That is much more sick than just a game with theme of serial killer as main character.

Not saying I got anything against Saints Row 2 or GTA. I find those games quite entertaining. It's a game, and I say no theme should be out of reach just because it's a game. Whatever boundary movies get, I say games should reach out that far. If people can handle movies, then they can handle games.

Possibly. But most serial killers don't murder in ways where there will be cops to witness it... *hurrrrrr*

Hey dude, if you can't see the difference between a game that *allows* you to kill innocents, and a game thats PRIMARY FOCUS is killing innocents (in most likely depraved, disgusting and lecherous ways rather then just shooting or hitting with a car), then nothing else can be said on the subject. You just can't see both sides.

Also, I can't think of very many movies in which the main character is a serial killer that preys on innocents with no justification. Mostly just those biographies of famous serial killers or that show Dexter, and even that justifies it eventually however contrived it may be.

Well, Heavy Rain is a serial killer game, so we can only wait for that to come out. :)

Warriorboy1990

[QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"]

Well, Heavy Rain is a serial killer game, so we can only wait for that to come out. :)

raven_squad

[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"]

Well, Heavy Rain is a serial killer game, so we can only wait for that to come out. :)

Warriorboy1990

I don't care if theres a story with it. It don't like it.

Possibly. But most serial killers don't murder in ways where there will be cops to witness it... *hurrrrrr*

Hey dude, if you can't see the difference between a game that *allows* you to kill innocents, and a game thats PRIMARY FOCUS is killing innocents (in most likely depraved, disgusting and lecherous ways rather then just shooting or hitting with a car), then nothing else can be said on the subject. You just can't see both sides.

Also, I can't think of very many movies in which the main character is a serial killer that preys on innocents with no justification. Mostly just those biographies of famous serial killers or that show Dexter, and even that justifies it eventually however contrived it may be.

raven_squad

You don't have to like it. Like how I don't like FPS games.

Many serial killers get caught because detective usually gets the clues and track him down, which the game would be about if anyone would attempt to make one.

There are plenty of movies that has serial killers as main character. American Psycho, Willard, etc.

I most certainly don't mind a game that PRIMARY FOCUS killing innocents as long as the game is good. It's a GAME. Not real. No theme is far off.

I've killed my innocent sister in Fatal Frame II (which is the normal ending so most people saw this), made a young girl sell herself to brothel as a payment to me to kill someone (part of the story in Ryu Ga Gotoku Kenzan!), I've murdered not just innocent but great men who helps people in Assassin's Creed, etc etc etc. Games have been doing messed up things for a while, so why this is all of sudden sick and twisted?

The point is, no game should have boundaries when it comes to themes. No one should make game such as this because there is almost no market out there for it, but not because there is some moral issues they conflicts with the idea.

TriangleHard, tat was very well put. There is no difference to a person in a game killing for reason and a main character who would be a serial killer, they are both killers with the instinct to slaughter. Now all of a sudden people are trying to borderline this idea when the ideas that were put to video games before are just as demented. Seriously I notice some are taking this way to seriously comes to show how double-standard people can really be.

[QUOTE="raven_squad"]

I don't care if theres a story with it. It don't like it.

Possibly. But most serial killers don't murder in ways where there will be cops to witness it... *hurrrrrr*

Hey dude, if you can't see the difference between a game that *allows* you to kill innocents, and a game thats PRIMARY FOCUS is killing innocents (in most likely depraved, disgusting and lecherous ways rather then just shooting or hitting with a car), then nothing else can be said on the subject. You just can't see both sides.

Also, I can't think of very many movies in which the main character is a serial killer that preys on innocents with no justification. Mostly just those biographies of famous serial killers or that show Dexter, and even that justifies it eventually however contrived it may be.

TriangleHard

You don't have to like it. Like how I don't like FPS games.

Many serial killers get caught because detective usually gets the clues and track him down, which the game would be about if anyone would attempt to make one.

There are plenty of movies that has serial killers as main character. American Psycho, Willard, etc.

I most certainly don't mind a game that PRIMARY FOCUS killing innocents as long as the game is good. It's a GAME. Not real. No theme is far off.

I've killed my innocent sister in Fatal Frame II (which is the normal ending so most people saw this), made a young girl sell herself to brothel as a payment to me to kill someone (part of the story in Ryu Ga Gotoku Kenzan!), I've murdered not just innocent but great men who helps people in Assassin's Creed, etc etc etc. Games have been doing messed up things for a while, so why this is all of sudden sick and twisted?

The point is, no game should have boundaries when it comes to themes. No one should make game such as this because there is almost no market out there for it, but not because there is some moral issues they conflicts with the idea.

by nature i'm fairly lenient on what should be allowed in movies and video games and I fully realize that games are just games.With that said, i still believe there's a line that shouldn't be crossed. The whole idea of a serial killer game is based on a very mentally ill and twisted notion of taking innocent lives because of some fetish or warped idea of justice. Understandably so, many games involve innocent casualties in some way or another, but a serial killer game is a whole other breed violence. Serial killers have existed throughout the history of our and foreign countries alike; and no one is denying their existence, if anything these individuals, when found, become instant historic figures due to their atrocious acts. But, by making a game about their beliefs and way of life is the same thing as celebrating the act of serial killing. agree or disagree, that's your choice. but this game would go into the same category of "let's slit our wrist" or "gang rape mania: after school special" (for all intents and purposes, the titles are fictitious). why does it go into that category? because it's sick.

I see your point of "well, we already have games that kill people, what's one more step into the darkness?" but my point is "yeah, we entered into some violent territory with our games, but let's take a step back."

we know games are violent, but why make them perverse?

sure, many of us are enlightened enough to play it as a game if one like it ever comes into existence, but unfortunately many are not as wise. maybe it's a romantic notion, but i still think that there's at least a hint of morality in this society not to push something like this into the gaming industry.

i'm almost torn saying all of this, becasue i don't really give a **** what people want to play and howthey enjoy themselves, but i'm saddened that there's even a need to justify something like serial killing in game or anywhere else for that matter.

creative idea? maybe. good idea? don't think so.

argument welcome, but no flamming.

TriangleHard, tat was very well put. There is no difference to a person in a game killing for reason and a main character who would be a serial killer, they are both killers with the instinct to slaughter. Now all of a sudden people are trying to borderline this idea when the ideas that were put to video games before are just as demented. Seriously I notice some are taking this way to seriously comes to show how double-standard people can really be.

WR_Platinum

there is a double standard. but there's an inherent difference between a serial killer and a killer no matter how you cut it.

I want to play a good guy who uses serial killer tactics to kill the serial killers. Be a good guy doing the ultimate punishments to the sick and twisted. To be able to tie up a serial killer in their own barb wire and watch them wiggly around and squirm for dear mercy would be awesome. Being able to lure them into a trap as they do with the innocent.K1LLR3175

Have you tried the Hitman series?

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

TriangleHard, tat was very well put. There is no difference to a person in a game killing for reason and a main character who would be a serial killer, they are both killers with the instinct to slaughter. Now all of a sudden people are trying to borderline this idea when the ideas that were put to video games before are just as demented. Seriously I notice some are taking this way to seriously comes to show how double-standard people can really be.

Rakuho

there is a double standard. but there's an inherent difference between a serial killer and a killer no matter how you cut it.

You can't prove that.

I want to play a good guy who uses serial killer tactics to kill the serial killers. Be a good guy doing the ultimate punishments to the sick and twisted. To be able to tie up a serial killer in their own barb wire and watch them wiggly around and squirm for dear mercy would be awesome. Being able to lure them into a trap as they do with the innocent.K1LLR3175

isn't there a show called dexter that already does some thing along these lines. I guess it would just be "dexter: the game."

i still can't justfy serial killing one way or the other. i'm down with capital punishment though...

[QUOTE="Rakuho"]

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

TriangleHard, tat was very well put. There is no difference to a person in a game killing for reason and a main character who would be a serial killer, they are both killers with the instinct to slaughter. Now all of a sudden people are trying to borderline this idea when the ideas that were put to video games before are just as demented. Seriously I notice some are taking this way to seriously comes to show how double-standard people can really be.

WR_Platinum

there is a double standard. but there's an inherent difference between a serial killer and a killer no matter how you cut it.

You can't prove that.

well, can you get the truth out of a person in the first place? it's difficult task to to uncover how a person's mind is really wired, but from general or potentially expert observation, it's possible to make an assessment of the difference in the mental approach. Me personally, i probably will never be able to explicitly point a finger at a real person and differentiate between a killer and a serial killer, because both types may blend into society. Proving it in a game, a different story. a Serial killer's notion of means to an end is based on an internal struggle or even pleasure. Not to say that a killer isn't messed up in the head, but there's a more tangible reason behind their way of life.

marginally speaking, it's almost impossible to differentiate between an extreme killer and a serial killer, or if there's any difference there at all. but if to look at the two opposite sides of the spectrum the mentaity is different. not to say one is better or less evil than another, but there's a difference.

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

[QUOTE="raven_squad"]

I don't care if theres a story with it. It don't like it.

Possibly. But most serial killers don't murder in ways where there will be cops to witness it... *hurrrrrr*

Hey dude, if you can't see the difference between a game that *allows* you to kill innocents, and a game thats PRIMARY FOCUS is killing innocents (in most likely depraved, disgusting and lecherous ways rather then just shooting or hitting with a car), then nothing else can be said on the subject. You just can't see both sides.

Also, I can't think of very many movies in which the main character is a serial killer that preys on innocents with no justification. Mostly just those biographies of famous serial killers or that show Dexter, and even that justifies it eventually however contrived it may be.

You don't have to like it. Like how I don't like FPS games.

Many serial killers get caught because detective usually gets the clues and track him down, which the game would be about if anyone would attempt to make one.

There are plenty of movies that has serial killers as main character. American Psycho, Willard, etc.

I most certainly don't mind a game that PRIMARY FOCUS killing innocents as long as the game is good. It's a GAME. Not real. No theme is far off.

I've killed my innocent sister in Fatal Frame II (which is the normal ending so most people saw this), made a young girl sell herself to brothel as a payment to me to kill someone (part of the story in Ryu Ga Gotoku Kenzan!), I've murdered not just innocent but great men who helps people in Assassin's Creed, etc etc etc. Games have been doing messed up things for a while, so why this is all of sudden sick and twisted?

The point is, no game should have boundaries when it comes to themes. No one should make game such as this because there is almost no market out there for it, but not because there is some moral issues they conflicts with the idea.

by nature i'm fairly lenient on what should be allowed in movies and video games and I fully realize that games are just games.With that said, i still believe there's a line that shouldn't be crossed. The whole idea of a serial killer game is based on a very mentally ill and twisted notion of taking innocent lives because of some fetish or warped idea of justice. Understandably so, many games involve innocent casualties in some way or another, but a serial killer game is a whole other breed violence. Serial killers have existed throughout the history of our and foreign countries alike; and no one is denying their existence, if anything these individuals, when found, become instant historic figures due to their atrocious acts. But, by making a game about their beliefs and way of life is the same thing as celebrating the act of serial killing. agree or disagree, that's your choice. but this game would go into the same category of "let's slit our wrist" or "gang rape mania: after school special" (for all intents and purposes, the titles are fictitious). why does it go into that category? because it's sick.

I see your point of "well, we already have games that kill people, what's one more step into the darkness?" but my point is "yeah, we entered into some violent territory with our games, but let's take a step back."

we know games are violent, but why make them perverse?

sure, many of us are enlightened enough to play it as a game if one like it ever comes into existence, but unfortunately many are not as wise. maybe it's a romantic notion, but i still think that there's at least a hint of morality in this society not to push something like this into the gaming industry.

i'm almost torn saying all of this, becasue i don't really give a **** what people want to play and howthey enjoy themselves, but i'm saddened that there's even a need to justify something like serial killing in game or anywhere else for that matter.

creative idea? maybe. good idea? don't think so.

argument welcome, but no flamming.

[QUOTE="Rakuho"]

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

You don't have to like it. Like how I don't like FPS games.

Many serial killers get caught because detective usually gets the clues and track him down, which the game would be about if anyone would attempt to make one.

There are plenty of movies that has serial killers as main character. American Psycho, Willard, etc.

I most certainly don't mind a game that PRIMARY FOCUS killing innocents as long as the game is good. It's a GAME. Not real. No theme is far off.

I've killed my innocent sister in Fatal Frame II (which is the normal ending so most people saw this), made a young girl sell herself to brothel as a payment to me to kill someone (part of the story in Ryu Ga Gotoku Kenzan!), I've murdered not just innocent but great men who helps people in Assassin's Creed, etc etc etc. Games have been doing messed up things for a while, so why this is all of sudden sick and twisted?

The point is, no game should have boundaries when it comes to themes. No one should make game such as this because there is almost no market out there for it, but not because there is some moral issues they conflicts with the idea.

lampolo

by nature i'm fairly lenient on what should be allowed in movies and video games and I fully realize that games are just games.With that said, i still believe there's a line that shouldn't be crossed. The whole idea of a serial killer game is based on a very mentally ill and twisted notion of taking innocent lives because of some fetish or warped idea of justice. Understandably so, many games involve innocent casualties in some way or another, but a serial killer game is a whole other breed violence. Serial killers have existed throughout the history of our and foreign countries alike; and no one is denying their existence, if anything these individuals, when found, become instant historic figures due to their atrocious acts. But, by making a game about their beliefs and way of life is the same thing as celebrating the act of serial killing. agree or disagree, that's your choice. but this game would go into the same category of "let's slit our wrist" or "gang rape mania: after school special" (for all intents and purposes, the titles are fictitious). why does it go into that category? because it's sick.

I see your point of "well, we already have games that kill people, what's one more step into the darkness?" but my point is "yeah, we entered into some violent territory with our games, but let's take a step back."

we know games are violent, but why make them perverse?

sure, many of us are enlightened enough to play it as a game if one like it ever comes into existence, but unfortunately many are not as wise. maybe it's a romantic notion, but i still think that there's at least a hint of morality in this society not to push something like this into the gaming industry.

i'm almost torn saying all of this, becasue i don't really give a **** what people want to play and howthey enjoy themselves, but i'm saddened that there's even a need to justify something like serial killing in game or anywhere else for that matter.

creative idea? maybe. good idea? don't think so.

argument welcome, but no flamming.

actually, someone did. and hence the reason i went on a rant. i bolded it out for you at the top of the post. end of the day, its just an opinion. i don't like the idea, but that's just me.

Honesty, this is a really good idea. The media would have a fit and I highly doubt it would happen, but there is some serious potential. As some have mentioned, it could use Dexter as a model. The more people you kill the more suspicion that arises and the more careful you have to be. It could be awsome, but I think it would have to take the MGS4 approach and have LOTS of cutscenes. Every kill would have to be graphic and meaningful. If you just ran up to someone and hit a button on your controller to kill them, that would get boring REAL quick.