So the PS3 isn't selling well?

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#101 Matz
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[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]its selling good for its price..............xbox360 has sold 9.9 million but like almost every person owned 2 or more xbox360s which means divide 9 million by 2 or 3...cause all of you know that xbox360 is like faulty and many ppl had it replacedmikeslemonade

my god. stupid stupd STUPID!! LOL

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#102 deadkingdg
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so, what you're saying is that $600 is worth 2 decent games? didn't neo-geo do something like that?clone01

2 games? 

FFXIII, MGS4, FFVXIII, Heavenly Sword, White Knight Story, Little Big Planet, Motorstorm, RFOM, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Folklore, Uncharted : Drake's Fortune, Ratchet and Clank...

And those are only the exclusives already announced, obviously more and more exclusives will be announced as time goes.

I already have 3 decent games on my PS3, so I surely didn't pay 600$ for two games. 

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#103 deadkingdg
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Why do people say that "the PS3 is selling well for a $600 console" like that means sales are good. Thats kind of like saying " That guy is really smart for a retard Its a backhanded complement and should never be used as one of your arguing points. That being said, sales are a little down from what i expected but I do foresee them getting a lot better in the near future. I think that part of their problem is that they are still making the PS2 a viable platform. Why should people go out and spend that kind of cash on a new system when good games are still coming out on the PS2 and they can play them until the price drops on the PS3. As far as exclusives go, Sony isn't stupid. If the loss of exclusives starts to really hurt their sales, they will start paying for exclusivity rights. Things will get better and everybody will be happy with whatever system they buy because there will be great games and great exclusives on all of the systems.Naseru

 

Actually, keeping the PS2 in place is the best thing Sony can do. First reason is for parents who want to buy a cheap console for their young kid. If they want to buy a console for their 5 years old kid, they would never buy a PS3, but by keeping the PS2, which has many games for that audience, they get many sales. Not only that, but the bigger game library will only push people to buy more games and thus giving more money to Sony.

Next is people who buy a PS2 now will probably like some series such as MGS or God Of War. They might want to play the sequel of their favorite game eventually. In that sense, it promotes the PS3.

People who get a PS2 now have enough games to keep them busy for a few years without buying a new console. This is good for Sony, because with the current prices, chances are they would buy something else than the PS3. And Sony loses money over each PS3 sold, so it is more profitable for them to sell a PS2.

Every companies care about one thing : making money. The PS2 makes money, unlike the X-Box and GC did, thus Sony will keep it here. If they would cut the PS2, PS3 sales would barely increase, as few people would want to pay 5 times more. All that would happen is that Sony would make less money, which is not what they want. 

Sony's gaming division needs some income, and the PS2 is a big part of it. For now, I doubt most people repaid with software sales the lost that Sony had to eat when they sold the PS3. Thus they have to keep some income until great games are coming.

 

 

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#104 The_Todd_5
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so, what you're saying is that $600 is worth 2 decent games?clone01

We're saying $600 is worth it for a console that runs. Conversely, $400 for something that is error-prone is not such a hot deal. 

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#105 shogoh
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I bought a PS3 but I use it mostly as a dust collector. Works wonders for that.

... I'm just waiting for good games to come out. For me so far there are none. The DS is the console which gets all my play time.

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#106 deadkingdg
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I bought a PS3 but I use it mostly as a dust collector. Works wonders for that.

... I'm just waiting for good games to come out. For me so far there are none. The DS is the console which gets all my play time.

shogoh

 

Sucks for you, I still enjoy playing Oblivion, Calling All Cars and Motorstorm. 

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#107 shogoh
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Sucks for you, I still enjoy playing Oblivion, Calling All Cars and Motorstorm.

deadkingdg

I had Oblivion for year on 360 before it came out for PS3. I'm not interested in racers. Maybe I should try Calling all Cars... seems like fun.  

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#108 The_Todd_5
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[QUOTE="shogoh"]

I bought a PS3 but I use it mostly as a dust collector. Works wonders for that.

... I'm just waiting for good games to come out. For me so far there are none. The DS is the console which gets all my play time.

deadkingdg

 

Sucks for you, I still enjoy playing Oblivion, Calling All Cars and Motorstorm.

Oblivion is certainly a great game 

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#109 deadkingdg
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[QUOTE="deadkingdg"]

Sucks for you, I still enjoy playing Oblivion, Calling All Cars and Motorstorm.

shogoh

I had Oblivion for year on 360 before it came out for PS3. I'm not interested in racers. Maybe I should try Calling all Cars... seems like fun.

 

I don't like most racers either. I find games such as GT and NFS very boring, but Motorstorm online gets chaotic and fun and I like it.  

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#110 Naseru
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[QUOTE="deadkingdg"]"Actually, keeping the PS2 in place is the best thing Sony can do. First reason is for parents who want to buy a cheap console for their young kid. If they want to buy a console for their 5 years old kid, they would never buy a PS3, but by keeping the PS2, which has many games for that audience, they get many sales. Not only that, but the bigger game library will only push people to buy more games and thus giving more money to Sony. Next is people who buy a PS2 now will probably like some series such as MGS or God Of War. They might want to play the sequel of their favorite game eventually. In that sense, it promotes the PS3. People who get a PS2 now have enough games to keep them busy for a few years without buying a new console. This is good for Sony, because with the current prices, chances are they would buy something else than the PS3. And Sony loses money over each PS3 sold, so it is more profitable for them to sell a PS2.Every companies care about one thing : making money. The PS2 makes money, unlike the X-Box and GC did, thus Sony will keep it here. If they would cut the PS2, PS3 sales would barely increase, as few people would want to pay 5 times more. All that would happen is that Sony would make less money, which is not what they want.Sony's gaming division needs some income, and the PS2 is a big part of it. For now, I doubt most people repaid with software sales the lost that Sony had to eat when they sold the PS3. Thus they have to keep some income until great games are coming." XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I understand what you are saying and I never said that it was bad for sony to keep supporting the PS2. My point was that that might be part of the problem with the PS3 sales right now. I think its great that they are continuing support for the PS2. It might just be cannibalizing their PS3 sales for now. You see what I'm sayin?
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#111 McSkombi
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It's selling at almost the same rate as the 360. A little lower, but it's to be expected. Would you rather drive a $400 Corvette, or a $600 Ferrari?ocelotcougar

A $600 Ferrari of course! Man that would be cheap! But would you drive a 154.000 Euro Lamborghini or a 50.000 Euro Mercedes? What i want to say: Comparing Cars with Consoles in the way you did, doesn't work well! But yes the PS3 is selling pretty well, especially for its pricetag!
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#112 sdkingsht
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in its 1st 6 months the PS3 has sold just over 900,000 units. that's 50,000 more than the Xbox360 did in its first 6 months and more than the PS1 or PS2 did in their first 6 months on the market. so it's selling just fine.

not to mention all of that is without a serious game library. Resistance and Motorstorm were awesome but that's about the only two MUST HAVE games (aside from Oblivion but that wasn't an exclusive). so once games start rolling out and bluray officially wins the format war it'll boost sales even more.

and i love my Wii but i'm not buying Need for Speed or Splinter Cell or anything like that for it. so the fad will eventually fade & slow Wii sales. 

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#113 sdkingsht
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not to mention an eventual price drop (probably not till xmas) but it's not needed. people are willing to pay once bluray and the game library come up.
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#114 deadkingdg
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I understand what you are saying and I never said that it was bad for sony to keep supporting the PS2. My point was that that might be part of the problem with the PS3 sales right now. I think its great that they are continuing support for the PS2. It might just be cannibalizing their PS3 sales for now. You see what I'm sayin?Naseru

I understand, but as I said, I'm sure most people who bought a PS2 in 2007 are not potential PS3 customers, at least not in 2007. And for Sony, it doesn't make much difference as long as they make money. 

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#116 CyanX73
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Lies and deceit. It is selling fine for a 600$ console.ocelotcougar

 

Like I always say, does Ford outsell Ferrari? Yes. Does that say anything negative about the Ferrari? No. For a 600.00 console with no games at the moment, the PS3 is doing just fine.  

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#117 The_Todd_5
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[QUOTE="The_Todd_5"]

[QUOTE="clone01"]so, what you're saying is that $600 is worth 2 decent games?clone01

We're saying $600 is worth it for a console that runs. Conversely, $400 for something that is error-prone is not such a hot deal.

 

so you mean the blue tooth controllers cutting out isn't error prone?

from what i hear, that's not a common issue. and compared to complete console collapse, i'd gladly take our problem 

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#118 mztazmz
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I think it's funny how this thread has to some degree turned into a debate on whether the PS3 is selling well or not. My post is based on FACTS(hard sales numbers).

In a nutshell, the PS3 has sold as many units as PS2 at the same stage in it's life with both consoles having the same "lack of good games" problem 6 months after launch. That console went on to sell well over a 100 million units. As of right now, the PS3 is on the same track. Until the line on the chart slips below the PS2, ALL THESE STUPID COMMENTS ABOUT THE PS3 NOT SELLING ARE COMPLETE BS. 

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#119 bdmckinley
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I wouldn't go as far as to say not selling well. I'd just say it's not selling as well as originally anticipated. You gotta remember, it's a $600 console. Most casuals aren't going to spend that kind of cash on something like the PS3. It will be doing much better in a year or so when more games roll out and blu-ray gets a few more blockbuster titles. Hell, if they keep pushing blu-ray like they are I'll probably end up with one soon.
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#120 scific
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Its easy to see most postings in this forum are from people who have already invested in the platform so the last thing they would want to acknowledge is the system not selling well or at worst failing, there is a lot of propaganda for both Sony and Microsoft and even more afore mentioned fan-boys for both, If you want to get a clear picture of how things are selling walk into any decent sized retail chain in the WORLD and see just how much space/shelving is dedicated to either console and its line of games-to my disappointment retailers are giving more room to the 360 and the wii. 

In Singapore recentley I found some stores are not even touching ps3 products at all.   

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#122 mcxps3
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Ooo ooo let me get last word.

THe ps3 sells pretty well every where besides the U.S. and Japan the problem is these are the 2 most important territories. True it is a 600 dollar console but it should still  be selling better.

In Japan for example it sold about a million units but the software sell terribly we will have to wait to see if when they get better more eastern games over their like Folk soul, Ninja Gaiden and HOtShots tho see what happnes. Here in the U.s its about the same story we will have to wait and see if when more games are released if Sony has made astrong enough argument to make ppl want this thing. A great number of things could bring up ps3 sales like a boom in BLuray interest, more exclusives, a slow down in the other console salese,or if the great ps2 fanbase finally saved enough cash to move to the nextgeneration of Sony consoles but for now the wii and 360 are outselling it sso all we can do now is wait.

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#123 The_Todd_5
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f you want to get a clear picture of how things are selling walk into any decent sized retail chain in the WORLD and see just how much space/shelving is dedicated to either console and its line of games-to my disappointment retailers are giving more room to the 360 and the wiiscific

Ahh yes. Space shelf. The scientific gold standard to judge how well a console is performing in terms of sales. :roll: 

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#124 The_Todd_5
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but for now the wii and 360 are outselling it sso all we can do now is wait.mcxps3

Those two certainly have the edge in the US but in Japan, only one is outselling the PS3... 

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#125 mztazmz
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Its easy to see most postings in this forum are from people who have already invested in the platform so the last thing they would want to acknowledge is the system not selling well or at worst failing, there is a lot of propaganda for both Sony and Microsoft and even more afore mentioned fan-boys for both, If you want to get a clear picture of how things are selling walk into any decent sized retail chain in the WORLD and see just how much space/shelving is dedicated to either console and its line of games-to my disappointment retailers are giving more room to the 360 and the wii. 

In Singapore recentley I found some stores are not even touching ps3 products at all.   

scific

what a moron.

The post has a friggin chart with FACTS that even fanboy goggles can't dispute, and you dispute it anyway.

mod me if you want, i'm just sick of you pathetic trolls comin in here.

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#126 cdmoore74
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Check out craigslist. I've seen people selling PS3 60gig units for $430-$500 some new. Heck click on the links below and you will find people selling it for $425, a lost of over $200 dollars. I live around a lot shopping centers and have always seen PS3 available.

Truth be told that not eveyone is ready for Blu-ray and the games coming out for the PS3 are just crap. At this point Sony is going to have to drop the price to around $400 dollars to be competitive. Just look at the street prices and you will find that people are not willing to fork over this kind of money.

 

New PS3 in Newyork for $450

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/ele/343906786.html

 

New PS3 in Chicago for $425

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ele/342996972.html

 

New PS3 in California for $450

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ele/340257988.html

 

People agree coast to coast that the PS3 is not worth $600.

 

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#127 slikMotion
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PS3s just not for the poor folk.

 

Price is certainly a barrier to many at this point.  But really, Wii will eventually fade, and even if it doesnt, the demographics is totally different so its really not in competition with PS3. 360 is just more of the same from xbox.  

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#128 l-_-l
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I am waiting on the price to drop, and with my brand new PC, I have all the time in the world to wait. I am not in a rush to own one. Not to mention I just bought a digital camera too, and a $250 fishing pole.
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#129 l-_-l
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It's selling at almost the same rate as the 360. A little lower, but it's to be expected. Would you rather drive a $400 Corvette, or a $600 Ferrari?ocelotcougar
I'll take the vette and in a early 70's model please (the newer body style sucks).
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#130 Roushrsh
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Im just waiting for a Price drop or a SERIOUSLY good bundle offer, like 3 free games ( never going to happen) since its 700 bucks here in canada
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#131 sebbi11
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[QUOTE="ocelotcougar"]It's selling at almost the same rate as the 360. A little lower, but it's to be expected. Would you rather drive a $400 Corvette, or a $600 Ferrari?deadkingdg

The right question should be: Would u rather buy a $400 Corvette or a $600 corvette?

I am one of those guys that waited, one reason, games. And to u who say the PS3 is selling well, if someone would have said before launch that the follow up to Playstation2 would be outsould by Xbox and Nintendo u would have flamed them to ashes, don`t act like all is fine.

Sollution, start making good games, and/or pricedrop.

Actually, it would be a 400$ bare bone corvette and a 600$ fully equipped. With Wi-Fi, HDMI, 60gb, free online play and Blu-ray, you can't say that they offer the same options.

The average gamer has just as much use for that equipment on a car as it has on a gaming console. (Car analogy has to stop now).

So, what`s the single most important accesory to a gaming console... games.

And i know some of u place a lot of trust in your crystal ball, i don`t.

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#132 wizdom
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Lies and deceit. It is selling fine for a 600$ console.ocelotcougar