http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/transformerswarforcybertron/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary%3Bread-review I do not agree wih this at all, from the user revires no one else does either. I cant believe this.
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http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/transformerswarforcybertron/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary%3Bread-review I do not agree wih this at all, from the user revires no one else does either. I cant believe this.
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]Hey my prediction was right! :lol:yokofox33
So was I! I thought I had terribly underrated it, but according to GS I'm right on the money!
Yeah lol I saw Gametrailers gave it a 7.7 so I was like "GS is TOTALLY giving it a 6.5 or lower" lolI agree, I am enjoying the hell out of the game, I actually like the chit chat between the characters, I love how megatron is such a bad$$$. I thought it was well done, but a 6.5 just seems to low of a opinion to not care about it is rated lower then the Transformers MOVIE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS NOT POSSIABLEThis is GS' opinion on the game so they can say whatever they want.
I like the game a lot - so far it's my favorite game for this year. People are going to have other opinions but that doesn't mean you will have the same as theirs.
Phazon64
I've been talking to Eagles about the game, who says the thing rocks. I'm more inclined to go with a gamer who's revved about the subject matter as well as having a good eye for the technical fluidity than a professional reviewer, and I also find myself agreeing with gametrailers.com almost 100% of the time after forum feedback. They gave it big props and stayedvery positive - and they ain't always kind over at GT - sothat's good by me.
Geez. ANOTHER game I just gotta have! Guess I'd better get busy and finish a few so my Minister of Finance (me wallet) will break loose with the shekels, no arguments... I gotta play "Uncharted"... I'm on a major MGS jag right now... some strong coffee, perhaps...
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Eagles?I've been talking to Eagles about the game, who says the thing rocks. I'm more inclined to go with a gamer who's revved about the subject matter as well as having a good eye for the technical fluidity than a professional reviewer, and I also find myself agreeing with gametrailers.com almost 100% of the time after forum feedback. They gave it big props and stayedvery positive - and they ain't always kind over at GT - sothat's good by me.
Geez. ANOTHER game I just gotta have! Guess I'd better get busy and finish a few so my Minister of Finance (me wallet) will break loose with the shekels, no arguments... I gotta play "Uncharted"... I'm on a major MGS jag right now... some strong coffee, perhaps...
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MonkeySpot
[QUOTE="Guaracy-"]You must all admit... It doesn't look like a very decent game... Gamespot at least know what they're talking about. IGN rated Joe Danger 9.5 and they rated Killzone 2 9.4.Advid-GamerI didnt look at anything. I played it and it is more then decent I didn't say it's not decent... But it sure doesn't look like it.
I just think it's funny that according to GS, Toy Story 3 is officially better than Transformers :PFlame_Blade88
That's not according to Gamespot, that's according to Tom Mc Shea who happens to have reviewed both games and who is one of many reviewers on Gamespot.
People always seem to think of Gamespot's reviewing staff as a whole but every single review is not the product of a unanimous concensus among the staff.
I think the difference is important when it comes to judging the site.
[spoiler] ......and no, I'm not on Gamespot's payroll :P [/spoiler]
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]I just think it's funny that according to GS, Toy Story 3 is officially better than Transformers :PQuebecSuperstar
That's not according to Gamespot, that's according to Tom Mc Shea who happens to have reviewed both games and who is one of many reviewers on Gamespot.
People always seem to think of Gamespot's reviewing staff as a whole but every single review is not the product of a unanimous concensus among the staff.
I think the difference is important when it comes to judging the site.
......and no, I'm not on Gamespot's payroll :P
It depends on the staff. There are some good members, surely, that I look forward to reading their reviews. Half the staff disturbingly defends their peers though. That's a whole different story concerning a joke I made about the re-review of Doom II that I won't get into here... it's entertaining, but doesn't pertain to this thread.
Anyway, Transformers is a solid 8 from me right now. Definitely enjoyable and great for fans of the old series. I'm having a lot of fun with it.
You must all admit... It doesn't look like a very decent game... Gamespot at least know what they're talking about. IGN rated Joe Danger 9.5 and they rated Killzone 2 9.4.Guaracy-So because it doesn't look decent, Gamespot is justified in giving it a mediocre review score? I don't care how it looks, if they played the game to review it then how it looks shouldn't be a factor. T:WFC is by far the best game I've played in months. It deserves an 8.5, minimum. I read their review and it just sounded like they didn't want to like it so they were nit picking.
*Edit--Also, he says that there are no instances that require strategic mode switching; that's completely false. There are several boss fights that require to do dodge faster than your robot form can move. You end up shooting from your robot form, and dodging attacks in your vehicle form.
What it comes down to, as I said before, is that he did not want to like the game. He had decided before picking it up that it was just another Transformers game, and that fact is glaringly obvious in his review. A paucity of ammo? Sucky shot, if you ask me. Ammo was never an issue.
Lol GS.
People stopped caring for the reviews looooooooooooong ago. Not to mention they're slow on the ball for news and the reviews.
I'm just here for the forums.
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]I just think it's funny that according to GS, Toy Story 3 is officially better than Transformers :PQuebecSuperstar
That's not according to Gamespot, that's according to Tom Mc Shea who happens to have reviewed both games and who is one of many reviewers on Gamespot.
People always seem to think of Gamespot's reviewing staff as a whole but every single review is not the product of a unanimous concensus among the staff.
I think the difference is important when it comes to judging the site.
' "Wait, reviews are just opinions. Right?"
Actually, we don't think so. We make no excuses for our verdicts about games and believe our reviews stand for themselves. While our reviews, of course, do contain an element of subjectivity to them, we see the process of reviewing games as one that primarily involves the reporting of facts. To an extent, we naturally color these facts based on our own experiences of having spent much time playing other games in the past, but we make every effort to look at every game on its own merits, and we describe each game in the most factual terms possible. To this end, in the rare event that one of our reviews contains a factual inaccuracy, we will correct the inaccuracy and will acknowledge it in an editor's note that's appended to the end of the review."
Seems like GS tends to side with their review scores as a whole to me :P
Game got three stars at gianbomb.com too...ryrulezwhich is relatively the same score as here. reviews are just opinions of one guy (in this case), tom mcshay didn't really dig the game, apparently neither did whoever reviewed at giantbomb. two good source that tell me the game is not great imo.
"Wait, reviews are just opinions. Right?"
Actually, we don't think so. We make no excuses for our verdicts about games and believe our reviews stand for themselves. While our reviews, of course, do contain an element of subjectivity to them, we see the process of reviewing games as one that primarily involves the reporting of facts. To an extent, we naturally color these facts based on our own experiences of having spent much time playing other games in the past, but we make every effort to look at every game on its own merits, and we describe each game in the most factual terms possible. To this end, in the rare event that one of our reviews contains a factual inaccuracy, we will correct the inaccuracy and will acknowledge it in an editor's note that's appended to the end of the review."
Seems like GS tends to side with their review scores as a whole to me :P
Flame_Blade88
Where does it contradict what I said?
If you're referring to the last line, they're talking about a 'factual inaccuracy', errors in the gameplay's description or the sort. They're not refering to an overall appreciation of the game. They don't say: "If the reviewer's opinion differs from the rest of the the staff's, we punch him/her in the face until he/she knows better."
Like in this review of F.E.A.R. 2:
"Editor's Note: This review previously contained inaccurate information about the melee combat system. GameSpot regrets the error."
Or in this review of Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands:
"Editor's Note: The preceding review replaces the Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands review that was originally posted on GameSpot, which--as detailed in our reviews blog--contained erroneous information about the game's camera. GameSpot regrets the error."
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]
"Wait, reviews are just opinions. Right?"
Actually, we don't think so. We make no excuses for our verdicts about games and believe our reviews stand for themselves. While our reviews, of course, do contain an element of subjectivity to them, we see the process of reviewing games as one that primarily involves the reporting of facts. To an extent, we naturally color these facts based on our own experiences of having spent much time playing other games in the past, but we make every effort to look at every game on its own merits, and we describe each game in the most factual terms possible. To this end, in the rare event that one of our reviews contains a factual inaccuracy, we will correct the inaccuracy and will acknowledge it in an editor's note that's appended to the end of the review."
Seems like GS tends to side with their review scores as a whole to me :P
QuebecSuperstar
Where does it contradict what I said?
If you're referring to the last line, they're talking about a 'factual inaccuracy', errors in the gameplay's description or the sort. They're not refering to an overall appreciation of the game. They don't say: "If the reviewer's opinion differs from the rest of the the staff's, we punch him/her in the face until he/she knows better."
Like in this review of F.E.A.R. 2:
"Editor's Note: This review previously contained inaccurate information about the melee combat system. GameSpot regrets the error."
Or in this review of Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands:
"Editor's Note: The preceding review replaces the Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands review that was originally posted on GameSpot, which--as detailed in our reviews blog--contained erroneous information about the game's camera. GameSpot regrets the error."
And I would argue that there are factual errors. He states that there are no instances that require strategic transforming. That is false; as I said in my edit, there are several situations that require you to switch back and forth, primarily the boss fights. He also states that there is a "Paucity of ammo". To that, I say that he has horrible aim. At no point in the campaign was I completely out of ammo. Maybe he didn't realize that you have a primary and secondary weapon as well as your vehicles weapon. The rest of the review is, of course, subjective, but overall, I completely disagree with said opinion. I understand where you're coming from, but the entire review just doesn't feel like he wanted anything but failure from the game. He looked for a mediocre game, so he found one.[QUOTE="ryrulez"]Game got three stars at gianbomb.com too...MethodManFTWwhich is relatively the same score as here. reviews are just opinions of one guy (in this case), tom mcshay didn't really dig the game, apparently neither did whoever reviewed at giantbomb. two good source that tell me the game is not great imo. I think Gerrrrrrstmaaaaaan, reviewed it there.
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]
"Wait, reviews are just opinions. Right?"
Actually, we don't think so. We make no excuses for our verdicts about games and believe our reviews stand for themselves. While our reviews, of course, do contain an element of subjectivity to them, we see the process of reviewing games as one that primarily involves the reporting of facts. To an extent, we naturally color these facts based on our own experiences of having spent much time playing other games in the past, but we make every effort to look at every game on its own merits, and we describe each game in the most factual terms possible. To this end, in the rare event that one of our reviews contains a factual inaccuracy, we will correct the inaccuracy and will acknowledge it in an editor's note that's appended to the end of the review."
Seems like GS tends to side with their review scores as a whole to me :P
QuebecSuperstar
Where does it contradict what I said?
If you're referring to the last line, they're talking about a 'factual inaccuracy', errors in the gameplay's description or the sort. They're not refering to an overall appreciation of the game. They don't say: "If the reviewer's opinion differs from the rest of the the staff's, we punch him/her in the face until he/she knows better."
Like in this review of F.E.A.R. 2:
"Editor's Note: This review previously contained inaccurate information about the melee combat system. GameSpot regrets the error."
Or in this review of Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands:
"Editor's Note: The preceding review replaces the Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands review that was originally posted on GameSpot, which--as detailed in our reviews blog--contained erroneous information about the game's camera. GameSpot regrets the error."
Oh I know I was just pulling your leg, I really meant nothing by it. Seriously, I apologize if I did anything to start any of that.GS rates everything lower than everyone else except Eurogamer and they are no better. They criticized blazblue for being loud an whatnot. Fighting games in general tend to be loud. The soundtrack was quite good and the gameplay was cool. They said the game played too much like guilty gear but that is dumb to complain about since it obviously would have similarities because blazblue was made by the same people.
People...
... when reading a review, let's all keep in mind that we are reading the words of a fellow gamer, not some statesman or politician who claims to be above some sort of moral line we can all ascribe to be. These are human beings who have feelings and attitudes, and though they try to put a lot aside and give as even-handed a treatment to any given title they will make mistakes and they WILL allow their feelings. It's one of the things we as readers almost DEPEND on... if we can't count on their passion for the hobby, then we can't judge their reviews.
We don't all enjoy the same author (for those of us who still buy a book on occasion), and yet we expect reviewers to be more universal... Some reviewers will be more in-line with your tastes than others, so you find ones you agree with the majority of the time and you find out what THEIR opinions are (if possible) and then stick with them. I used to know the EGM reviewers by name and could watch for the ones who had similar views on games and catch their perspective (there were generally three reviews to a title so you got three different perspectives).
Don't get upset if a game gets a "bad" score when you liked it or loved it. That reviewer may not hold the same view as you, that's all. But you wouldn't think a poster on this forum's opinions were God-Given... why would you think that of Tom McShea? The only difference between Tom and any of you other goobers is, he works for the site.
Outside of that little detail, he's a twig just like us.
I have posted some stuff lately which has upset the thread to the point where I have run for my digital life... for instance, I think "BioShock" is lame. I think it stinks on ice, in fact, and I think that people are just monjin' on it's sausage because they're worried that if they don't show aproval someone will question their sexual proclivity.
Do I deserve to be vilified or my sanity questioned?
(Don't be a ****, it was a retorical question)
No. It's only my one single solitary opinion. It means nothing to people who don't know or respect my other views. The same should be done with any reviewer or website/ magazine/ community member. I don't think I have ever read one review for a NASCAR title over the last fifteen years by a writer who understands the sport let-alone one who actually LIKES it... and yet every year I had to read the same dumb "Drive-Fast-Turn-Left" horse apples out of some college-aged toolshed who thought he came up with redneck witicisms and left-turn gags for the first time ever on planet Earth and just had to share them, all the while avoiding talking about the GAME whatsoever. It used to really get my blood boiling. ANd I ended up just going out and buying the game because, I thought, I'm just gonna make up my OWN mind about it, and perhaps write a review of it myself so that others like me will have something from a FAN perspective...
Those writers injected their attitudes, so I injected my OWN.
Now, I don't know if those reviews and posts over the years ever made any difference to other gamers, but I know it made a difference in ME as a consumer and as a gamer... and a writer for that matter. I stopped reading every review with my own judgement out-front, and started just trying to read what the writer was meaning to convey.
It may be that the environments are repetitive in the Tformer game. That, to a more casual fan, might be a negative. There may be issues with gameplay, try to see it OUTSIDE the Eye of the Fan for a second... the writer may have a simple point which was ehter over-emphasized by them or amplified by you, the reader. And hey, maybe the writer just doesn't "get it". So write your own review and post an apposing viewpoint.
That's the beauty of free speech. Long may it reign. Spelling errors and fact-checking aside.
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The one thing I think IS pretty unforgivable is the getting the name wrong... there should be some editor nads getting slammed in a desk drawer for that. But otherwise, it's all just perspective.
Way to go Switzerland... :PPeople...
... when reading a review, let's all keep in mind that we are reading the words of a fellow gamer, not some statesman or politician who claims to be above some sort of moral line we can all ascribe to be. These are human beings who have feelings and attitudes, and though they try to put a lot aside and give as even-handed a treatment to any given title they will make mistakes and they WILL allow their feelings. It's one of the things we as readers almost DEPEND on... if we can't count on their passion for the hobby, then we can't judge their reviews.
We don't all enjoy the same author (for those of us who still buy a book on occasion), and yet we expect reviewers to be more universal... Some reviewers will be more in-line with your tastes than others, so you find ones you agree with the majority of the time and you find out what THEIR opinions are (if possible) and then stick with them. I used to know the EGM reviewers by name and could watch for the ones who had similar views on games and catch their perspective (there were generally three reviews to a title so you got three different perspectives).
Don't get upset if a game gets a "bad" score when you liked it or loved it. That reviewer may not hold the same view as you, that's all. But you wouldn't think a poster on this forum's opinions were God-Given... why would you think that of Tom McShea? The only difference between Tom and any of you other goobers is, he works for the site.
Outside of that little detail, he's a twig just like us.
I have posted some stuff lately which has upset the thread to the point where I have run for my digital life... for instance, I think "BioShock" is lame. I think it stinks on ice, in fact, and I think that people are just monjin' on it's sausage because they're worried that if they don't show aproval someone will question their sexual proclivity.
Do I deserve to be vilified or my sanity questioned?
(Don't be a ****, it was a retorical question)
No. It's only my one single solitary opinion. It means nothing to people who don't know or respect my other views. The same should be done with any reviewer or website/ magazine/ community member. I don't think I have ever read one review for a NASCAR title over the last fifteen years by a writer who understands the sport let-alone one who actually LIKES it... and yet every year I had to read the same dumb "Drive-Fast-Turn-Left" horse apples out of some college-aged toolshed who thought he came up with redneck witicisms and left-turn gags for the first time ever on planet Earth and just had to share them, all the while avoiding talking about the GAME whatsoever. It used to really get my blood boiling. ANd I ended up just going out and buying the game because, I thought, I'm just gonna make up my OWN mind about it, and perhaps write a review of it myself so that others like me will have something from a FAN perspective...
Those writers injected their attitudes, so I injected my OWN.
Now, I don't know if those reviews and posts over the years ever made any difference to other gamers, but I know it made a difference in ME as a consumer and as a gamer... and a writer for that matter. I stopped reading every review with my own judgement out-front, and started just trying to read what the writer was meaning to convey.
It may be that the environments are repetitive in the Tformer game. That, to a more casual fan, might be a negative. There may be issues with gameplay, try to see it OUTSIDE the Eye of the Fan for a second... the writer may have a simple point which was ehter over-emphasized by them or amplified by you, the reader. And hey, maybe the writer just doesn't "get it". So write your own review and post an apposing viewpoint.
That's the beauty of free speech. Long may it reign. Spelling errors and fact-checking aside.
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The one thing I think IS pretty unforgivable is the getting the name wrong... there should be some editor nads getting slammed in a desk drawer for that. But otherwise, it's all just perspective.
MonkeySpot
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