Was anyone else disappointed with Dragon Age II?

For the record, I'm not saying it's a bad game nor am I saying that I don't like it. I'm simply saying I'm disappointed in it. I can't believe Bioware actually made the game. First off, the combat is extremley repetative. The switch to speed up combat was a good idea at first, but now it feels too much like a hack and slash RPG. The story to me, doesn't seem very interesting, or as engrossing as the first one. Another thing, is the cave/dungeoun layouts. I've been in numerous caves or warehouses, in different locations, and the majority of them are the exact same thing, just with doors hiding certain areas of the map. It also seems that they dumbed down the RPG elements that made the first one so good. All in all, it's a good game, not a great game like I was expecting coming rom Bioware. I just can't believe Bioware would release a game that seems like they didn't put as much time into as their previous ones. Anyone else feel the same way I do about any of these points? Or about anything else about the game in general?

I never said I didn't like the game, i said I was disappointed. There is a difference lol.

It doesn't feel much like an epic adventure to me yet, i'll give it some more time but it seems all i'm doing is talking and bringing people stuff. In DAO I felt like I was making a difference right from the start.

I wanna be able to play as a dwarf :(

I think its great even better than the 1st.I know what you mean about the same caves and dungeons just with different openings this sucks a little also the characters are not as good as the first but overall IMO its a better game i'm 18hours into it and can't stop playing it.

I wanna be able to play as a dwarf :(

KohlscheeN

It pretty much exactly what they did with Mass Effect: They abandoned all of the core RPG elements and some serious customization options and lost a little touch with the story telling. In both cases they still made an awesome sequel but in complete disregard for the hardcore fans of the originals. I think the faster combat and the improved aesthetics were much needed changes, but since when do sequels actually REMOVE features from their predecessors?

It pretty much exactly what they did with Mass Effect: They abandoned all of the core RPG elements and customization options and lost a little touch with the story telling. In both cases they still made an awesome sequel but in complete disregard for the hardcore fans of the originals. I think the faster combat and the improved aesthetics were much needed changes, but since when do sequels actually REMOVE features from their predecessors? MrSelf-Destruct

I've been playing a bit more, it's getting better, but the combat is still repetative. And the story is still pretty nonexistent. Kind of a disappointment, but a fun game nonetheless.

The level recycling is the only thing I don't like about DA 2. other than that i'm having a ball!PoisoN_Facecam0

I thought the first one was good and enjoyed the demo of DA2. It's not a bad game. Also got a couple buddies playing it often. If it had online, I would have bought it.

If you critizice the game on the EA-forums, you get banned and lose your game. EA are deamons, I tell you.

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]The level recycling is the only thing I don't like about DA 2. other than that i'm having a ball!My_Stump

::::STORY:::: In the first DA game, it was quite an adventure. You had your origin story, became a Grey Warden, survived the horror at Ostagar, and you had to use treaties to summon an army to fight the blight all while dealing with the death of the king of fereldon. I found the story very engaging in the first game. You also got to see how different the dwarves, elfs, and humans conducted themselves and their atmosphere. Comparing DA2 to DA:O is a joke. DA2 failed to keep my attention on the storyline. I wasn't really sure what the main storyline was at some points in the game. I sure knew what the main story was for DA:O though: Stop the blight.gr8scott

Not to be rude but I have to LOL at that.DA:O had one of the most clichéd fantasy stories the genre has ever seen. A Final Fantasy game couldn't have been more cliché. First, you had the prerequisite hero from humble beginnings become the only person who could save the world from, yep, you guessed, a horde of orcs...err darkspawn. You, the only man in the world who could, then had to run around back and forth across the country to gather allies one by one while the orcs...err darkspawn waited for you to gather an army while they did nothing.The dark and sultry sorceress, drunk and brazen dwarf and then the regicidal betrayal that everyone saw coming from the very beginning all tied into that.

It wasn't bad, but it could have definitely been better. I think we can all agree with that. gr8scott

Sorry. I can't. I thought Origins was mediocre. This is far worse. This is a VERY half-assed game and BioWare is finally getting some well-overdue criticism for how substandard their games are becoming.

Has anyone else been dissapointed by DA2 ?

Head over to the DA2 boards at the Bioware Social forums, it's a warzone over there.

If you critizice the game on the EA-forums, you get banned and lose your game. EA are deamons, I tell you.

magnusm1

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If you critizice the game on the EA-forums, you get banned and lose your game. EA are deamons, I tell you.

MrSelf-Destruct

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If you critizice the game on the EA-forums, you get banned and lose your game. EA are deamons, I tell you.

PoisoN_Facecam0

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"] It turns out it was an accident.. they just meant to suspend him from the forums and accidentally suspended his EA account, everything's been reinstated and the guy got his account back and an apology. Also though, even if he got banned, and his account locked, EA is completely within their rights, people don't understand just what the ToS is for.. It basically allows the company to do whatever they want, for whatever reason with your account.. If they think its justified they can ban you in an instant without notice... PoisoN_Facecam0

For the record, I'm not saying it's a bad game nor am I saying that I don't like it. I'm simply saying I'm disappointed in it. I can't believe Bioware actually made the game. First off, the combat is extremley repetative. The switch to speed up combat was a good idea at first, but now it feels too much like a hack and slash RPG. The story to me, doesn't seem very interesting, or as engrossing as the first one. Another thing, is the cave/dungeoun layouts. I've been in numerous caves or warehouses, in different locations, and the majority of them are the exact same thing, just with doors hiding certain areas of the map. It also seems that they dumbed down the RPG elements that made the first one so good. All in all, it's a good game, not a great game like I was expecting coming rom Bioware. I just can't believe Bioware would release a game that seems like they didn't put as much time into as their previous ones. Anyone else feel the same way I do about any of these points? Or about anything else about the game in general?

Maluk

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For the record, I'm not saying it's a bad game nor am I saying that I don't like it. I'm simply saying I'm disappointed in it. I can't believe Bioware actually made the game. First off, the combat is extremley repetative. The switch to speed up combat was a good idea at first, but now it feels too much like a hack and slash RPG. The story to me, doesn't seem very interesting, or as engrossing as the first one. Another thing, is the cave/dungeoun layouts. I've been in numerous caves or warehouses, in different locations, and the majority of them are the exact same thing, just with doors hiding certain areas of the map. It also seems that they dumbed down the RPG elements that made the first one so good. All in all, it's a good game, not a great game like I was expecting coming rom Bioware. I just can't believe Bioware would release a game that seems like they didn't put as much time into as their previous ones. Anyone else feel the same way I do about any of these points? Or about anything else about the game in general?

duane27

Why would I check the reviews for a game that i've been waiting for and for a game as good as the first one? I read reviews to get an idea of how a game is, I don't let reviews sway if I'm going to buy a game or not. Everyone has their own opinions. Although i was watching Xplay and saw that they gave the game a 3/5, I was kinda shocked to say the least haha.

yes ...i am disappointed also. DA feels so formula to me. uninspired.

this goes all the back to Baldur's Gate of course... which will forever hang over anything that attempts - or even mentions itself - to be a followup. i don't feel any of the magic in DA that i felt in BG. it does not involve or draw me in.

unfortunately that kind of magic seems likean intangible thing that cannot be bottled or copied. it's either there ... or it isn't.

I haven't played the Dragon Age series, but these sound like a lot of the issues I had with Mass Effect 2. Stripped down rpg and character customization elements and a story that's more presentation than substance. That seems to be the trend with Bioware lately.Poncho_Hachacha

Yeah I am a bit disappointed with it, not as epic as the first. I still like the game, but it could have been a lot better.

It wasn't a dissapointment but it was a step back for me they really did make it a lot worse then it could been....

It seems bioware wanted to put a layer of mass effect over the top of it :S

I was disappointed in DA2. Repetitive dungeons and environments throughout was just lazy game design, as was the lame one button hack n' slash combat style approach.

I actually thought the characters were pretty good however, maybe better than the first DA's even, and the story was kind of building up to be something interesting but then the game ended, which I think kind of leaves good potential for the next DA's plot at least. Very disappointing game overall though, not sure I will purchase another game in the series.

love it, on my 3rd play through. played 6 times through dragon age origins.

though i play both on teh pc, as they were meant to :)

in dragon age origins you saved the world
in dragon age 2 you change the world, and i found that ultimatly more satisfying.

love it, on my 3rd play through. played 6 times through dragon age origins.

though i play both on teh pc, as they were meant to :)

in dragon age origins you saved the world
in dragon age 2 you change the world, and i found that ultimatly more satisfying.

BlackDevil99

Recently playing Planescape this game sickened me with its limited choices and no matter what dialogue it always led to violence.

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love it, on my 3rd play through. played 6 times through dragon age origins.

though i play both on teh pc, as they were meant to :)

in dragon age origins you saved the world
in dragon age 2 you change the world, and i found that ultimatly more satisfying.

MrSelf-Destruct

Yes I believe it was horribly streamlined and rushed. The first one was great and I was a huge fan of it, but DA2 just didnt entertain me or left anything memorable after I finished it.

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love it, on my 3rd play through. played 6 times through dragon age origins.

though i play both on teh pc, as they were meant to :)

in dragon age origins you saved the world
in dragon age 2 you change the world, and i found that ultimatly more satisfying.

BlackDevil99

Yes, I think you did. :P I found the bickering between the templars and mages to be a bit overbearing since any moral person would find it next to impossible to choose a side. I like to do things I can feel wholly good about. Killing a tyrant ruler or an evil demon lord would be a good start. The first DA had many morally ambiguous situations (The mages vs templars, Logain, urn of ashes, choosing the dwarven king, choosing between elves and warewolves), yet there was still one thing that had to be done and you felt like you were completely winning by doing it - destroying the archdemon and ending the blight. That's why the entire game felt more like a bunch of side quests than anything else. There needs to be a central antagonist. There needs to be something that drives you from start to finish. And whenever you bring it all to a close it'd be nice to feel that you were fully justified in your decisions.

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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] You really don't even change the world, though. You're at the mercy of others the entire game. You just choose when to fight and when not to fight. The results are basically the same. I find it very shallow and uninvolving. The characters and their personal backstories are amazing, but the main plot is basically broken up into 3 pieces that add up to absolutely nothing. Sure, you become the hero of Kirkwall, but the game pretty much just says "Hey look. You just became the hero of Kirkwall." I think its silly. This is a fantasy game, not some new age drama that exploits the impact we have on eachother's lives. Give me an ultimate villian with an evil plot for the world's destruction any day. Saving the world >>> Helping a City.MrSelf-Destruct

Yes, I think you did. :P I found the bickering between the templars and mages to be a bit overbearing since any moral person would find it next to impossible to choose a side. I like to do things I can feel wholly good about. Killing a tyrant ruler or an evil demon lord would be a good start. The first DA had many morally ambiguous situations (The mages vs templars, Logain, urn of ashes, choosing the dwarven king, choosing between elves and warewolves), yet there was still one thing that had to be done and you felt like you were completely winning by doing it - destroying the archdemon and ending the blight. That's why the entire game felt more like a bunch of side quests than anything else. There needs to be a central antagonist. There needs to be something that drives you from start to finish. And whenever you bring it all to a close it'd be nice to feel that you were fully justified in your decisions.

i get where your comming from, an absolute evil is more fun to destory, but not as relastic (i say while talking about a game with magic and elves, lol)

I will be skipping it simply based on what I read and how they streamlined the experience. Dragon Age Origins is an aweome game...why did they have to change a formula that worked? Oh yes...to make an RPG more accessible to a mass audience...

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i think i just got far more involved in the world then you did (spoiler alert) the ending completly changes the world, putting all the mage cirlces in revolt, ingniting a huge conflict between sympathisers and the chantry. the instituion that the average people depend on. exciting stuff, can't wait to see what happens in the next one.

BlackDevil99

Yes, I think you did. :P I found the bickering between the templars and mages to be a bit overbearing since any moral person would find it next to impossible to choose a side. I like to do things I can feel wholly good about. Killing a tyrant ruler or an evil demon lord would be a good start. The first DA had many morally ambiguous situations (The mages vs templars, Logain, urn of ashes, choosing the dwarven king, choosing between elves and warewolves), yet there was still one thing that had to be done and you felt like you were completely winning by doing it - destroying the archdemon and ending the blight. That's why the entire game felt more like a bunch of side quests than anything else. There needs to be a central antagonist. There needs to be something that drives you from start to finish. And whenever you bring it all to a close it'd be nice to feel that you were fully justified in your decisions.

i get where your comming from, an absolute evil is more fun to destory, but not as relastic (i say while talking about a game with magic and elves, lol)

I was very disappointed with Dragon Age 2, I found it to have lost the majority of the humor the first game had between the characters, a over indulgence on recycling the same caves to double as seperate locations sometimes on opposite sides of the same map, and a general lack of thought to the fights there, indifferent fights with some being far too easy and others being far too difficult, lack of depth in the majority of characters, unlike Dragon Age Origins where you had a interest in the characters, these ones seemed for the most part shallow, incomplete and contradictory

it wasnt a bad game...and i didnt hate it...but it could have been so much better...and they advertised it to be the god of all rpgs...so yeah i was dissappoint in the ~20 hour campaign

The demo kept me from thinking twice about the game. There should not be loading times transitioning from gameplay to cutscene. The graphics were not up to par with today's standards. If this game came out in 2007 or 2008, then maybe I would let some things slide, but not in 2011.

Game is **** AWFUL...all they did was make it easy so all the retards could play/buy too....it supposed to be a sequel and they left like 1000 loose ends untied...an absolute disgrace to rpgs. So glad i didnt buy...the dwarves look retarded, as do all the swords and armor, its like a big japanese nightmare now.. AWFUL..the only good rpg for ps3 just went down the ****RatchetClankPuz