Who doesn't like the idea of 25% MGS in Uncharted?

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#51 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

[QUOTE="HarshGamer"] True, but still hope that it's just minor things like hiding in the snow or something.HarshGamer

why would someone hide in a frickin snow man!???

*huh? what is that noise?*
*Nathan hides in snow*
*Enemy gets close by*
*Enemy stays there for a while*
*Nathan dies from cold*

Ok? Then why would he hide at all? *huh? what is that noise?* *Nathan hides outside the cave* (since he's in a mountain) *Enemy gets close by* *Enemy stays there for a while* *Nathan dies from cold*

Fission Mailed.

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#52 HarshGamer
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.....mostly since he's wearing the jungle outfit in snowy scene of the trailer.
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#53 Scianix-Black
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I'm telling you, Nathan's nose is gonna get him killed.
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#54 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"] True, but still hope that it's just minor things like hiding in the snow or something.Scianix-Black

why would someone hide in a frickin snow man!???

*huh? what is that noise?*
*Nathan hides in snow*
*Enemy gets close by*
*Enemy stays there for a while*
*Nathan can't move, he might alert the enemy*

*Nathan dies from cold*

LOL.

*Achoo!*

!

How can I forget this one? :D

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#55 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

why would someone hide in a frickin snow man!???

*huh? what is that noise?*
*Nathan hides in snow*
*Enemy gets close by*
*Enemy stays there for a while*
*Nathan dies from cold*

null_is_zero

Ok? Then why would he hide at all? *huh? what is that noise?* *Nathan hides outside the cave* (since he's in a mountain) *Enemy gets close by* *Enemy stays there for a while* *Nathan dies from cold*

Fission Mailed.

And why is that?
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#56 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] Ok? Then why would he hide at all? *huh? what is that noise?* *Nathan hides outside the cave* (since he's in a mountain) *Enemy gets close by* *Enemy stays there for a while* *Nathan dies from cold*HarshGamer

Fission Mailed.

And why is that?



Why would he hide outside a cave??
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#57 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

Fission Mailed.

null_is_zero
And why is that?



Why would he hide outside a cave??

Because he's in the mountain? I mean, there are caves in the mountains to, you weren't expecting to slide down the hills were you? Why would he use stealth?
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[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]Well, the first Uncharted did not really have original gameplay, so I don't know what you're complaining about. I highly doubt it'll be like MGS at all.HarshGamer
How did it not have original gameplay?

It was a mixture of gameplay styIes and concepts that have been around for awhile... but they did it right. :P
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#59 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] And why is that?HarshGamer


Why would he hide outside a cave??

Because he's in the mountain? I mean, there are caves in the mountains to, you weren't expecting to slide down the hills were you? Why would he use stealth?

to hide in the mountains, duh.

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#60 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="hillelslovak"]Well, the first Uncharted did not really have original gameplay, so I don't know what you're complaining about. I highly doubt it'll be like MGS at all.zakkro
How did it not have original gameplay?

It was a mixture of gameplay styIes and concepts that have been around for awhile... but they did it right. :P

Ok, so originality was probably my worst word, but they truly did it right.
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#61 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

Why would he hide outside a cave??
null_is_zero
Because he's in the mountain? I mean, there are caves in the mountains to, you weren't expecting to slide down the hills were you? Why would he use stealth?

to hide in the mountains, duh.

So if it's a cave ON the mountain that he's hiding outside of, he's not on the mountain?????
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#62 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] How did it not have original gameplay?HarshGamer
It was a mixture of gameplay styIes and concepts that have been around for awhile... but they did it right. :P

Ok, so originality was probably my worst word, but they truly did it right.

They did it right but adding stealth into it is a plus and wouldn't hurt the game but give the player another choice of fighting. At some points in Uncharted 1, I thought stealth would be the best option to get to the next area.

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Every game has some percentage of MGS in it. The series is just that influential. And you were saying Uncharted was original? It's basically a mix of Gears of War and Tomb Raider.
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#64 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="zakkro"] It was a mixture of gameplay styIes and concepts that have been around for awhile... but they did it right. :Pnull_is_zero

Ok, so originality was probably my worst word, but they truly did it right.

They did it right but adding stealth into it is a plus and wouldn't hurt the game but give the player another choice of fighting. At some points in Uncharted 1, I thought stealth would be the best option to get to the next area.

At the part where the "cursed spaniards" would come at you right?
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#65 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] Because he's in the mountain? I mean, there are caves in the mountains to, you weren't expecting to slide down the hills were you? Why would he use stealth?HarshGamer

to hide in the mountains, duh.

So if it's a cave ON the mountain that he's hiding outside of, he's not on the mountain?????

Would you plz just stop it. Stealth has more to it than just hiding.

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#66 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

to hide in the mountains, duh.

null_is_zero

So if it's a cave ON the mountain that he's hiding outside of, he's not on the mountain?????

Would you plz just stop it. Stealth has more to it than just hiding.

LOL! (But hiding is the main concept of stealth though, still, LOL!)
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#67 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] So if it's a cave ON the mountain that he's hiding outside of, he's not on the mountain?????HarshGamer

Would you plz just stop it. Stealth has more to it than just hiding.

LOL! (But hiding is the main concept of stealth though, still, LOL!)

Exactly.

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#68 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

Would you plz just stop it. Stealth has more to it than just hiding.

null_is_zero

LOL! (But hiding is the main concept of stealth though, still, LOL!)

Exactly.

WTF? Now you agree?
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#69 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] LOL! (But hiding is the main concept of stealth though, still, LOL!)HarshGamer

Exactly.

WTF? Now you agree?

That's null, in true MGS fashion: confusing.

:P

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#70 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

Exactly.

Scianix-Black

WTF? Now you agree?

That's null, in true MGS fashion: confusing.

:P

Or tired maybe?
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#71 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] LOL! (But hiding is the main concept of stealth though, still, LOL!)HarshGamer

Exactly.

WTF? Now you agree?

I agree that hiding is one of the main components of stealth but like I said, there is more to it than just hiding.

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[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]Well, the first Uncharted did not really have original gameplay, so I don't know what you're complaining about. I highly doubt it'll be like MGS at all.HarshGamer
How did it not have original gameplay?

Because it's just a typical 3rd person shooter adventure.

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#73 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="hillelslovak"]Well, the first Uncharted did not really have original gameplay, so I don't know what you're complaining about. I highly doubt it'll be like MGS at all.skp_16

How did it not have original gameplay?

Because it's just a typical 3rd person shooter adventure.

And how many games have that excerpt for Tomb Raider (and GeOW maybe?).
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#74 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"] How did it not have original gameplay?HarshGamer

Because it's just a typical 3rd person shooter adventure.

And how many games have that excerpt for Tomb Raider (and GeOW maybe?).

MGS4.

BAM!

c wut i did tharr?

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#75 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="skp_16"]

Because it's just a typical 3rd person shooter adventure.

Scianix-Black

And how many games have that excerpt for Tomb Raider (and GeOW maybe?).

MGS4.

BAM!

c wut i did tharr?

You took it to anotha level.
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#76 HarshGamer
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But seriously, there's no more than 3 games mentioned, so why would you say typical skp?
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#77 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="skp_16"]

Because it's just a typical 3rd person shooter adventure.

Scianix-Black

And how many games have that excerpt for Tomb Raider (and GeOW maybe?).

MGS4.

BAM!

c wut i did tharr?

I see that.

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#78 navstar29
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Every game has some percentage of MGS in it. The series is just that influential. And you were saying Uncharted was original? It's basically a mix of Gears of War and Tomb Raider.istuffedsunny
why do people care where it came from, the only thing you should care about is how the gameplay is executed. And Gears of War and Tomb Raider weren't originals, they did execute their gameplay properly, but they weren't original, if I really wanted to go and and compare games for their originality, i'd say all games copied pong.
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So i've heard the news about Uncharted 2. And although i was delighted for the news at first, i then hear the game is going to consist of 50% Uncharted gameplay and 25% & 25% Cliff Hanger Metal Gear Solid gameplay. I mean, who would kinda sneak up on every enemy to kill him. Or just sneak past him and just leave him alive. WTF? I really hope it doesn't seem like MGS to me and i really hope it doesn't get too sneaky, cause what made Uncharted popular in the first place, was the originality.HarshGamer
The things you just said you don't like conceptually - you can already do in the first game. You can sneak up and stealth style kill enemies from behind in the first game - so really all they are doing is improving on that concept for the second game. Not sure how that's a bad thing since it's already an available option in the first game. I think it will be cool to improve on those aspects of the gameplay.
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#80 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]Every game has some percentage of MGS in it. The series is just that influential. And you were saying Uncharted was original? It's basically a mix of Gears of War and Tomb Raider.navstar29
why do people care where it came from, the only thing you should care about is how the gameplay is executed. And Gears of War and Tomb Raider weren't originals, they did execute their gameplay properly, but they weren't original, if I really wanted to go and and compare games for their originality, i'd say all games copied pong.

Now I strongly disagree! The only next generation game that copied pong was Virtua Tennis otherwise, epic fail.

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[QUOTE="navstar29"][QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]Every game has some percentage of MGS in it. The series is just that influential. And you were saying Uncharted was original? It's basically a mix of Gears of War and Tomb Raider.null_is_zero

why do people care where it came from, the only thing you should care about is how the gameplay is executed. And Gears of War and Tomb Raider weren't originals, they did execute their gameplay properly, but they weren't original, if I really wanted to go and and compare games for their originality, i'd say all games copied pong.

Now I strongly disagree! The only next generation game that copied pong was Virtua Tennis otherwise, epic fail.

I strongly agree with the higlighted portion, though.

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#82 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

[QUOTE="navstar29"] why do people care where it came from, the only thing you should care about is how the gameplay is executed. And Gears of War and Tomb Raider weren't originals, they did execute their gameplay properly, but they weren't original, if I really wanted to go and and compare games for their originality, i'd say all games copied pong. Scianix-Black

Now I strongly disagree! The only next generation game that copied pong was Virtua Tennis otherwise, epic fail.

I strongly agree with the higlighted portion, though.

yea whatever.

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#83 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

Now I strongly disagree! The only next generation game that copied pong was Virtua Tennis otherwise, epic fail.

null_is_zero

I strongly agree with the higlighted portion, though.

yea whatever.

But doesn't it make sense?

We can talk all we want now; we can sit and speculate to our hearts' content, but it won't matter when the game finally comes out and we play it for ourselves.

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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"]So i've heard the news about Uncharted 2. And although i was delighted for the news at first, i then hear the game is going to consist of 50% Uncharted gameplay and 25% & 25% Cliff Hanger Metal Gear Solid gameplay. I mean, who would kinda sneak up on every enemy to kill him. Or just sneak past him and just leave him alive. WTF? I really hope it doesn't seem like MGS to me and i really hope it doesn't get too sneaky, cause what made Uncharted popular in the first place, was the originality.DataDream
The things you just said you don't like conceptually - you can already do in the first game. You can sneak up and stealth style kill enemies from behind in the first game - so really all they are doing is improving on that concept for the second game. Not sure how that's a bad thing since it's already an available option in the first game. I think it will be cool to improve on those aspects of the gameplay.

Ok, but that wasn't much similar to MGS-gameplay. What i'm saying is, that they want to implement the kind of stealth seen in MGS. 25% is a bit too much
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#85 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

I strongly agree with the higlighted portion, though.

Scianix-Black

yea whatever.

But doesn't it make sense?

We can talk all we want now; we can sit and speculate to our hearts' content, but it won't matter when the game finally comes out and we play it for ourselves.

Ok? So what you're saying is that if you close the door, the door will be closed?
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#86 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

I strongly agree with the higlighted portion, though.

Scianix-Black

yea whatever.

But doesn't it make sense?

We can talk all we want now; we can sit and speculate to our hearts' content, but it won't matter when the game finally comes out and we play it for ourselves.

you changed your avatar.

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#87 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

yea whatever.

HarshGamer

But doesn't it make sense?

We can talk all we want now; we can sit and speculate to our hearts' content, but it won't matter when the game finally comes out and we play it for ourselves.

Ok? So what you're saying is that if you close the door, the door will be closed?

Yes... no... I don't know.

I just know that whatever we say before the game's release won't matter when it comes out.

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#88 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

yea whatever.

HarshGamer

But doesn't it make sense?

We can talk all we want now; we can sit and speculate to our hearts' content, but it won't matter when the game finally comes out and we play it for ourselves.

Ok? So what you're saying is that if you close the door, the door will be closed?

no one mentioned doors man, why are you changing the subject?

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#89 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

yea whatever.

null_is_zero

But doesn't it make sense?

We can talk all we want now; we can sit and speculate to our hearts' content, but it won't matter when the game finally comes out and we play it for ourselves.

you changed your avatar.

Yeah, I'm looking for something new but not finding it. I'm just gonna stick with Bayonetta.

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#90 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

But doesn't it make sense?

We can talk all we want now; we can sit and speculate to our hearts' content, but it won't matter when the game finally comes out and we play it for ourselves.

Scianix-Black

Ok? So what you're saying is that if you close the door, the door will be closed?

Yes... no... I don't know.

I just know that whatever we say before the game's release won't matter when it comes out.

So you mean, when the cat left the house, the dog was home?
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] Ok? So what you're saying is that if you close the door, the door will be closed?HarshGamer

Yes... no... I don't know.

I just know that whatever we say before the game's release won't matter when it comes out.

So you mean, when the cat left the house, the dog was home?

Are you kidding me now? First doors now animals???

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#92 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Yes... no... I don't know.

I just know that whatever we say before the game's release won't matter when it comes out.

null_is_zero

So you mean, when the cat left the house, the dog was home?

Are you kidding me now? First doors now animals???

The pilot doe's not fall far from the sky.
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LOL, does ^^^^
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But seriously, there's no more than 3 games mentioned, so why would you say typical skp?HarshGamer

Tomb Raider, MGS, Mercenaries, Syphon Filter, Danger Girl, RE 4, Enter The Matrix, Duke Nukem

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#95 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"]But seriously, there's no more than 3 games mentioned, so why would you say typical skp?skp_16

Tomb Raider, MGS, Mercenaries, Syphon Filter, Danger Girl, RE 4, Enter The Matrix, Duke Nukem

Those are just 3rd person shooters. Not 3rd person shooter adventures. Uncharted is a real adventure with a treasure hunt and whatnot.
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#96 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="skp_16"]

[QUOTE="HarshGamer"]But seriously, there's no more than 3 games mentioned, so why would you say typical skp?HarshGamer

Tomb Raider, MGS, Mercenaries, Syphon Filter, Danger Girl, RE 4, Enter The Matrix, Duke Nukem

Those are just 3rd person shooters. Not 3rd person shooter adventures. Uncharted is a real adventure with a treasure hunt and whatnot.

True, but the adventure part doesn't make it's way into the gameplay.

The only hint of adventure is the actual treasure hunting, otherwise, it's purely storywise.

If you were to take the Uncharted story and replace it with something else, you'd still have a standard, linear third person shooter.

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#97 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] So you mean, when the cat left the house, the dog was home? HarshGamer

Are you kidding me now? First doors now animals???

The pilot doe's not fall far from the sky.

However, weapons and equipments are procured on site.

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#98 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="skp_16"]

Tomb Raider, MGS, Mercenaries, Syphon Filter, Danger Girl, RE 4, Enter The Matrix, Duke Nukem

Scianix-Black

Those are just 3rd person shooters. Not 3rd person shooter adventures. Uncharted is a real adventure with a treasure hunt and whatnot.

True, but the adventure part doesn't make it's way into the gameplay.

The only hint of adventure is the actual treasure hunting, otherwise, it's purely storywise.

If you were to take the Uncharted story and replace it with something else, you'd still have a standard, linear third person shooter.

yeah, true
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#99 null_is_zero
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[QUOTE="skp_16"]

[QUOTE="HarshGamer"]But seriously, there's no more than 3 games mentioned, so why would you say typical skp?HarshGamer

Tomb Raider, MGS, Mercenaries, Syphon Filter, Danger Girl, RE 4, Enter The Matrix, Duke Nukem

Those are just 3rd person shooters. Not 3rd person shooter adventures. Uncharted is a real adventure with a treasure hunt and whatnot.

Tomb Raider is a fake adventure game?

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#100 HarshGamer
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[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="skp_16"]

Tomb Raider, MGS, Mercenaries, Syphon Filter, Danger Girl, RE 4, Enter The Matrix, Duke Nukem

null_is_zero

Those are just 3rd person shooters. Not 3rd person shooter adventures. Uncharted is a real adventure with a treasure hunt and whatnot.

Tomb Raiden is a fake adventure game?

No, Tomb RAIDEN, lol, is with MGS and Uncharted. Tomb Raiden, haha