Who doesn't like the idea of 25% MGS in Uncharted?

[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="skp_16"]

Tomb Raider, MGS, Mercenaries, Syphon Filter, Danger Girl, RE 4, Enter The Matrix, Duke Nukem

null_is_zero

Tomb Raider is a fake adventure game?

[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] Those are just 3rd person shooters. Not 3rd person shooter adventures. Uncharted is a real adventure with a treasure hunt and whatnot.DataDream

Tomb Raider is a fake adventure game?

[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] Those are just 3rd person shooters. Not 3rd person shooter adventures. Uncharted is a real adventure with a treasure hunt and whatnot.DataDream

Tomb Raider is a fake adventure game?

But is it right to cl@ssify a game as an "Adventure Game" when the character is going on the adventure and not you?

I mean, to me an adventure game would be Oblivion because I'm exploring and discovering new places.

But with Uncharted or Tomb Raider, it's all pretty linear and the only person doing the exploring is the main character.

What do you think?

Right now I won't say anything because I don't know what it is.

But if it has 25% of MGS awesomeness...we win!

[QUOTE="null_is_zero"]I completely disagree. Stealth elements in games give you more options to have fun with the AI depends what those elements are. I'm with every developer adding stealth to their action adventure games because it's really fun and more intense than just shooting around left and right which gets boring. If you can do both in Uncharted 2, it's perfect. It's good for a change. Don't expect Octo-camo, CQC, Cardboard boxes and the Metal Gear Mark II to be in the game though. :P A tranquilizer gun would be a perfect add-on to the weapons list in Uncharted.Sneaking is FUN and INTENSE! I can't wait.HarshGamer

No sneaking gameplay is awesome im glad uncharted will have some sneaking is just awesome

Right now I won't say anything because I don't know what it is.

But if it has 25% of MGS awesomeness...we win!

rogerjak

Exactly, I mean since we're getting a small portion of MGS(one of the best games of all time) I think it's pretty awesome. This is good, isn't?

[QUOTE="rogerjak"]

Right now I won't say anything because I don't know what it is.

But if it has 25% of MGS awesomeness...we win!

null_is_zero

Exactly, I mean since we're getting a small portion of MGS(one of the best games of all time) I think it's pretty awesome. This is good, isn't?

[QUOTE="DataDream"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

Tomb Raider is a fake adventure game?

Scianix-Black

But is it right to ****fy a game as an "Adventure Game" when the character is going on the adventure and not you?

I mean, to me an adventure game would be Oblivion because I'm exploring and discovering new places.

But with Uncharted or Tomb Raider, it's all pretty linear and the only person doing the exploring is the main character.

What do you think?

Hmmm - those are interesting points. Obviously a game like Oblivion is a "true" adventure game. I guess though by your definition only RPG's would qualify as adventure games. Though I do see what you're saying and agree.

There is definitely adventure to be had in Oblivion if you want to find it.

And you're right that Uncharted and TR are pretty linear - VERY linear actually.

I think in the game industry when they label a game as an "Adventure" game it primarily has to do with the old formula left over from the days of Myst and games like that. If the primary point of the game is puzzle solving and foucussed on discovery - they label it as "Adventure". These things of course do also coincide with the story that is presented.

So all in all I pretty much agree with everything you have said SB - I especially like your Oblivion statement as that is a real adventure - it's up to you what you do and where you explore.

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"][QUOTE="DataDream"] I would put Uncharted and Tomb Raider in the exact same genre - of adventure gaming. However the rest in this list I feel are not true adventure games. Just my opinion.DataDream

But is it right to ****fy a game as an "Adventure Game" when the character is going on the adventure and not you?

I mean, to me an adventure game would be Oblivion because I'm exploring and discovering new places.

But with Uncharted or Tomb Raider, it's all pretty linear and the only person doing the exploring is the main character.

What do you think?

Hmmm - those are interesting points. Obviously a game like Oblivion is a "true" adventure game. I guess though by your definition only RPG's would qualify as adventure games. Though I do see what you're saying and agree.

There is definitely adventure to be had in Oblivion if you want to find it.

And you're right that Uncharted and TR are pretty linear - VERY linear actually.

I think in the game industry when they label a game as an "Adventure" game it primarily has to do with the old formula left over from the days of Myst and games like that. If the primary point of the game is puzzle solving and foucussed on discovery - they label it as "Adventure". These things of course do also coincide with the story that is presented.

So all in all I pretty much agree with everything you have said SB - I especially like your Oblivion statement as that is a real adventure - it's up to you what you do and where you explore.

Yeah, old habits I guess.

Either way, I still consider Uncharted to be a Third Person Action Game, but an Adventure Story.

And I don't necessarily consider all RPG's to be Adventure games, just the games where I'm exploring.

So games like Grand Theft Auto fall under this category as well, but that's just me.

[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="rogerjak"]

Right now I won't say anything because I don't know what it is.

But if it has 25% of MGS awesomeness...we win!

HarshGamer

Exactly, I mean since we're getting a small portion of MGS(one of the best games of all time) I think it's pretty awesome. This is good, isn't?

Lets not rise any alarms before we see the gameplay videos.

[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

Exactly, I mean since we're getting a small portion of MGS(one of the best games of all time) I think it's pretty awesome. This is good, isn't?

rogerjak

Lets not rise any alarms before we see the gameplay videos.

I hope Snake is a playable character.

[QUOTE="rogerjak"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] No, a whole quarter not just a portion. A quarter of the game will be MGS-like. It is no good at all.null_is_zero

Lets not rise any alarms before we see the gameplay videos.

I hope Snake is a playable character.

what made Uncharted popular in the first place, was the originality.HarshGamer

[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="rogerjak"]I doubt drake will have octocamo and all. What I can see is stealh elements in the game. Probably even a chance of sneaking whenever you want.

Lets not rise any alarms before we see the gameplay videos.

rogerjak

I hope Snake is a playable character.

Unlockable character?

[QUOTE="rogerjak"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

I hope Snake is a playable character.

null_is_zero

Unlockable character?

Cameo appearance, I bet.

[QUOTE="rogerjak"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

I hope Snake is a playable character.

null_is_zero

Unlockable character?

[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]Well, the first Uncharted did not really have original gameplay, so I don't know what you're complaining about. I highly doubt it'll be like MGS at all.HarshGamer

[QUOTE="HarshGamer"]

I hope Snake is a playable character.

Symphonycometh

Unlockable character?

[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="hillelslovak"]Well, the first Uncharted did not really have original gameplay, so I don't know what you're complaining about. I highly doubt it'll be like MGS at all.adam_53

Unlockable character?

why not?I know that would make me happy. :D

[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

Unlockable character?

null_is_zero

why not?I know that would make me happy. :D

I always saw Nathan Drake as Marcus Fenix and Lara Croft's love child.

can't wait for part 2.

I always saw Nathan Drake as Marcus Fenix and Lara Croft's love child.

can't wait for part 2.

BlocChaser

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

[QUOTE="HarshGamer"] How did it not have original gameplay?HarshGamer

The cover system was fairly remeniscient of Gears of War.

[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]Well, the first Uncharted did not really have original gameplay, so I don't know what you're complaining about. I highly doubt it'll be like MGS at all.HarshGamer

As of right now, I'm not counting on anything.

I don't care about what anyone says about the game or any "facts" about it being 25% this and 50% that.

I'm just excited purely for the fact that I will get to meet my good friend Nathan Drake once more.

Like I've said before, it could be a RTS game for all I care, but I'd still love it. Uncharted has one of the most engaging main characters on the PS3.

Scianix-Black

He hit the nail on the head with his first post. I'm sick of reading all the MGS comparisons and stealth component talk. 25% this, 25% that...

I dont give a **** if it's 25% dog crap, if the other 75% is as good as the first Uncharted or better I'll buy it.

Goes to shows how much I enjoyed Drakes Fortune and how pumped I am for the sequel.

[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]Gears 1 was released one year before Uncharted...HarshGamer

cover system came from manhunt?TJSAGE

wrong. Cover system was first introduced more than a decade ago in MGS1. The back-to-wall cover system. Enhanced in MGS2.

[QUOTE="null_is_zero"][QUOTE="rogerjak"]

Right now I won't say anything because I don't know what it is.

But if it has 25% of MGS awesomeness...we win!

HarshGamer

Exactly, I mean since we're getting a small portion of MGS(one of the best games of all time) I think it's pretty awesome. This is good, isn't?

[QUOTE="TJSAGE"]cover system came from manhunt?null_is_zero

wrong. Cover system was first introduced more than a decade ago in MGS1. The back-to-wall cover system. Enhanced in MGS2.

Wrong x 100!!! Cover System was introduced more than 2 decades ago with Bomberman

[QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

[QUOTE="TJSAGE"]cover system came from manhunt?GreenGoblin2099

wrong. Cover system was first introduced more than a decade ago in MGS1. The back-to-wall cover system. Enhanced in MGS2.

Wrong x 100!!! Cover System was introduced more than 2 decades ago with Bomberman

lol, Planting a bomb that blows up in a cross shape and then scooching over a foot to the side so you don't get blown up doesn't count as cover, but I know what you mean.

[QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

[QUOTE="TJSAGE"]cover system came from manhunt?GreenGoblin2099

wrong. Cover system was first introduced more than a decade ago in MGS1. The back-to-wall cover system. Enhanced in MGS2.

Wrong x 100!!! Cover System was introduced more than 2 decades ago with Bomberman

You have got to be KIDDING!

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

As of right now, I'm not counting on anything.

I don't care about what anyone says about the game or any "facts" about it being 25% this and 50% that.

I'm just excited purely for the fact that I will get to meet my good friend Nathan Drake once more.

Like I've said before, it could be a RTS game for all I care, but I'd still love it. Uncharted has one of the most engaging main characters on the PS3.

buzzn77d

He hit the nail on the head with his first post. I'm sick of reading all the MGS comparisons and stealth component talk. 25% this, 25% that...

I dont give a **** if it's 25% dog crap, if the other 75% is as good as the first Uncharted or better I'll buy it.

Goes to shows how much I enjoyed Drakes Fortune and how pumped I am for the sequel.

Dude, I completely agree. I have no idea where this 25% of MGS came from, but let's be real, it's far too early to speculate on the elements or anything like that. Fact is, that it's the Uncharted series, and it's Naughty Dog. It will be great. Period.

In addition though, wherever this "MGS" element came from, I don't think it was used to describe hiding in lockers and stuff, but rather to emphasize that there will be at least be an ability to "trick" and "scare" the AI, which really boils down to the game having more realistic, more interactive, and ultimately, more fun enemies.

[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]Well, the first Uncharted did not really have original gameplay, so I don't know what you're complaining about. I highly doubt it'll be like MGS at all.HarshGamer

[QUOTE="HarshGamer"][QUOTE="hillelslovak"]Well, the first Uncharted did not really have original gameplay, so I don't know what you're complaining about. I highly doubt it'll be like MGS at all.GranReyUno

Hmm, I would say Resident Evil 4 (camera while shooting) and Shadow of the Colossus (platforming) mixed along with MGS3 (vehicle shooting) would be more accurate. Anyway, that's my opinion. And I love the idea of stealth being incorporated to U2, makes it more realistic

[QUOTE="GranReyUno"][QUOTE="HarshGamer"] How did it not have original gameplay?JKusanagi

Hmm, I would say Resident Evil 4 (camera while shooting) and Shadow of the Colossus (platforming) would be more accurate. Anyway, that's my opinion. And I love the idea of stealth being incorporated to U2, makes it more realistic

[QUOTE="buzzn77d"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

As of right now, I'm not counting on anything.

I don't care about what anyone says about the game or any "facts" about it being 25% this and 50% that.

I'm just excited purely for the fact that I will get to meet my good friend Nathan Drake once more.

Like I've said before, it could be a RTS game for all I care, but I'd still love it. Uncharted has one of the most engaging main characters on the PS3.

Eldrew

He hit the nail on the head with his first post. I'm sick of reading all the MGS comparisons and stealth component talk. 25% this, 25% that...

I dont give a **** if it's 25% dog crap, if the other 75% is as good as the first Uncharted or better I'll buy it.

Goes to shows how much I enjoyed Drakes Fortune and how pumped I am for the sequel.

Dude, I completely agree. I have no idea where this 25% of MGS came from, but let's be real, it's far too early to speculate on the elements or anything like that. Fact is, that it's the Uncharted series, and it's Naughty Dog. It will be great. Period.

In addition though, wherever this "MGS" element came from, I don't think it was used to describe hiding in lockers and stuff, but rather to emphasize that there will be at least be an ability to "trick" and "scare" the AI, which really boils down to the game having more realistic, more interactive, and ultimately, more fun enemies.

LOL. and 25% of lemmings.Dogswithguns

IMO, an option to do stealth is a MUST in all action and action-adventure games. I hate it when enemies always know where you are.

IMO, an option to do stealth is a MUST in all action and action-adventure games. I hate it when enemies always know where you are.

skp_16

LOL. and 25% of lemmings.Dogswithguns