Who else wishes modern games were like classic games just enhanced?

Since games suck these days for the most part due to all these unwanted and unnecessary gimmicks, lifelike realistic graphics being the primary focus of a game over fun and gameplay, almost every game made now is a shooter, multiplayer in every single game, QTEs, DLC, motion controls, 3D, streamlining and casualization (making games simple and easy for simple and stupid people), who else wishes that modern games were like classic games?

I seriously wish that modern games were like classic games, but just with enhanced graphics and controls. (I MEAN IMPROVED GRAPHICS AND NOT LIFELIKE/REALISTIC GRAPPHHIKKKXX). Video games would be so much better, instead of the suckfest known as modern gaming.

I wish that Sony would go on doing their own thing like in the past, but with the current industry, they kinda are forced to go with the flow, so to speak. Classic games are superior to modern games and they still have their gameplay intact, before watering down video games for unintelligent people became the norm.

TLTR version: Video games have become bastardized due to unwanted changes that dumb down games. Video games have devolved for the simple minded, while those wanting a solid video gaming experience are left behind in the dust.

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Since you are crying, I got you this:

For me, it depends on the genre. While I like the direction that some genres have taken, I very much wish that JRPGs still played like they did back in the PSX days. They had a greater emphasis on game play and exploration rather than cutscenes that last too long and linear paths.

Play Demon's/Dark Souls.Swift_Boss_A

For me, it depends on the genre. While I like the direction that some genres have taken, I very much wish that JRPGs still played like they did back in the PSX days. They had a greater emphasis on game play and exploration rather than cutscenes that last too long and linear paths.

Bubble_Man

(D Souls series are WRPGs, not JRPGs, which is why I didn't count them)

it would be nice, unfortunately it'll never happen.. i don't understand why they don't just remake some of the old classics such as contra, castlevania *the original* even battle toads could be awesome if done right with enhanced graphics and a cool fighting system, these are the things game corps need to be considering instead of *what other franchise can we shove mp into* :roll:

If you think that all games this gen focus on graphics over gameplay and fun, you're not looking very hard.anime_gamer007

it would be nice, unfortunately it'll never happen.. i don't understand why they don't just remake some of the old classics such as contra, castlevania *the original* even battle toads could be awesome if done right with enhanced graphics and a cool fighting system, these are the things game corps need to be considering instead of *what other franchise can we shove mp into* :roll:

ShangTsung17

The problem is, in many cases of people's anger the cause is that someone only sees the bad in someone or something. In these scenarios a very good way to mitigate one's anger is tofocus on the good. Many of us grew up with the same games and have played many of the same games up to this point so why do some of us have drastically different outlooks and different levels of intensity when discussing video games? We are all different but that can't be used as an excuse.Some may say their anger is justified because what they are saying is true. This however is a very dangerous line of thinking and if spread toward other areas of life it will bring pain and sadness to anyone involved.

The problem is, in many cases of people's anger the cause is that someone only sees the bad in someone or something. In these scenarios a very good way to mitigate one's anger is tofocus on the good. Many of us grew up with the same games and have played many of the same games up to this point so why do some of us have drastically different outlooks and different levels of intensity when discussing video games? We are all different but that can't be used as an excuse.Some may say their anger is justified because what they are saying is true. This however is a very dangerous line of thinking and if spread toward other areas of life it will bring pain and sadness to anyone involved.

Zidaneski

Shang, I have spoken out on GameFaqs for years about current gen devs ruining video games. I just do not know of a more productive way than to get the message out about how sucktastic video games have been lately.

We should start some sort of crusade, like, "Occupy Video Game Movement". 99% of current gen games are casualized multiplayer gimmick crap.

Shang, I have spoken out on GameFaqs for years about current gen devs ruining video games. I just do not know of a more productive way than to get the message out about how sucktastic video games have been lately.

We should start some sort of crusade, like, "Occupy Video Game Movement". 99% of current gen games are casualized multiplayer gimmick crap.

soundcellx

oh boy, you are a parody of the elitist gamer. i will admit though that games are less "gamey" nowadays.

3 more levels..and u will be able to make troll threads in SW.. counting down the days..campzor

Also funny how MOST PEOPLE IN THIS TOPIC AGREE WITH ME!!!!!! And not you. So sorry. What I say is true because it is true.


No idea what SW is. Star Wars?

So, go troll somewhere else. Good day.

[QUOTE="campzor"]3 more levels..and u will be able to make troll threads in SW.. counting down the days..soundcellx

Also funny how MOST PEOPLE IN THIS TOPIC AGREE WITH ME!!!!!! And not you. So sorry. What I say is true because it is true.


No idea what SW is. Star Wars?

So, go troll somewhere else. Good day.

sure u dont...

3 more levels

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]3 more levels..and u will be able to make troll threads in SW.. counting down the days..campzor

Also funny how MOST PEOPLE IN THIS TOPIC AGREE WITH ME!!!!!! And not you. So sorry. What I say is true because it is true.


No idea what SW is. Star Wars?

So, go troll somewhere else. Good day.

sure u dont...

3 more levels

I think alot of the love for classic games is mainly just nostaligic. If we were to play them today, they wouldn't actually be that good. That said, I do enjoy many simple 2D SHMUPS.

I think alot of the love for classic games is mainly just nostaligic. If we were to play them today, they wouldn't actually be that good. That said, I do enjoy many simple 2D SHMUPS.

andmcq

Modern games are not as appealing as past games...yes Demon's/Dark Souls is addicting, but I have gone back to games such as WoW...Diablo 2....CS:Source....Half Life series...etc....because those games are fun. Most games nowadays focus on a cinematic experience which was amazing at first but they feel that multiplayer will keep the game alive. I prefer single playr over multiplayer depending on the type of game. I even went back to Symphony of the Night and MediEvil because I love classic games like those.

3 more levels..and u will be able to make troll threads in SW.. counting down the days..campzor

Modern games are not as appealing as past games...yes Demon's/Dark Souls is addicting, but I have gone back to games such as WoW...Diablo 2....CS:Source....Half Life series...etc....because those games are fun. Most games nowadays focus on a cinematic experience which was amazing at first but they feel that multiplayer will keep the game alive. I prefer single playr over multiplayer depending on the type of game. I even went back to Symphony of the Night and MediEvil because I love classic games like those.

csadhoo

[QUOTE="campzor"]3 more levels..and u will be able to make troll threads in SW.. counting down the days..soundcellx

Also funny how MOST PEOPLE IN THIS TOPIC AGREE WITH ME!!!!!! And not you. So sorry. What I say is true because it is true.


No idea what SW is. Star Wars?

So, go troll somewhere else. Good day.

HM1, you are my special buddy!;)

Very few will agree, and since you can't get enough of trolling about "generic games with gunz" maybe you should take up another hobby, because quite frankly nobody cares in the vast majority who enjoy linear and shooting games :roll:

Very few will agree, and since you can't get enough of trolling about "generic games with gunz" maybe you should take up another hobby, because quite frankly nobody cares in the vast majority who enjoy linear and shooting games :roll:

Venom_Raptor

Even though I still enjoy this generation's games, I can't deny many of them are dumbed down. I played through Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory yesterday. Aside from scripted events, this game offers so much freedom. You can complete the game without killing one guard (unless necessary to for the mission).

I looked up Splinter Cell: Conviction and cringed when the producer said the original games are "too hard" so he wanted to streamline the gameplay to make a more stealth-action hybrid, which most people said was a horrible idea (I haven't played it yet but I'm afraid to).

Even Shinji Mikami upsets me. In an interview, he said God Hand failed to sell because he had "too much freedom" to create the game he envisioned. Now, whether you enjoy the game or not is irrelevant. The point is, he's basically saying that creative freedom should be limited to increase video game sales... what?!

I still enjoy this generation. There are plenty of gems in my opinion that I love but I can't deny developers have been dumbing down gameplay for certain games (e.g. annoying, arbitrary QTEs).

I tend to agree that modern games can be to easy compared to classic games. Demons Souls and Dark Souls are a least 2 modern games that require pratice and skill to beat. I would like to see some of the classic franchise revisisted. That may not happen, As gaming has changed these days.

I'm glad that I held on to my old consoles for when I need a classic fix

[QUOTE="csadhoo"]

Modern games are not as appealing as past games...yes Demon's/Dark Souls is addicting, but I have gone back to games such as WoW...Diablo 2....CS:Source....Half Life series...etc....because those games are fun. Most games nowadays focus on a cinematic experience which was amazing at first but they feel that multiplayer will keep the game alive. I prefer single playr over multiplayer depending on the type of game. I even went back to Symphony of the Night and MediEvil because I love classic games like those.

soundcellx

First, don'T feed the trolls, if you reply ... you fell in the trap.

Second, i don't see your point. Different games for different tastes. I don't like hockey and football games ... desn't mean they are bad games.

What gives this impression is probably that longer developpement time for your game type, and the multiplication of game types as diminished the ration of your game type in the total game pool.

Casuals have as much the right to like games as we do.

Sadly, being more numerous the casual market as attacted too much attention from devs. Until they realise that more casual gamers do not always equal more sales (they called casuals for a good reason ... they don't buy 3-5 games a month ) we will see a higher ratio of games aimed towards them.

The consistant big sellers are not casual games, except maybe for mario titles.

As far as i'm concerned to real problem is the multiplication of gaming platform. Nintendo Ds, Wii, Wii U, PS3, PsVita, PsP, Ps2, Xbox360, Iphone, Ipad, Ipod, PC, MAC, etc.

Devs end up programming for too many platforms to reach a correct amount of customers, which makes developpement time and costs skyrocket.

First, don'T feed the trolls, if you reply ... you fell in the trap.

Second, i don't see your point. Different games for different tastes. I don't like hockey and football games ... desn't mean they are bad games.

What gives this impression is probably that longer developpement time for your game type, and the multiplication of game types as diminished the ration of your game type in the total game pool.

Casuals have as much the right to like games as we do.

Sadly, being more numerous the casual market as attacted too much attention from devs. Until they realise that more casual gamers do not always equal more sales (they called casuals for a good reason ... they don't buy 3-5 games a month ) we will see a higher ratio of games aimed towards them.

The consistant big sellers are not casual games, except maybe for mario titles.

As far as i'm concerned to real problem is the multiplication of gaming platform. Nintendo Ds, Wii, Wii U, PS3, PsVita, PsP, Ps2, Xbox360, Iphone, Ipad, Ipod, PC, MAC, etc.

Devs end up programming for too many platforms to reach a correct amount of customers, which makes developpement time and costs skyrocket.

strangestguy

Very few will agree, and since you can't get enough of trolling about "generic games with gunz" maybe you should take up another hobby, because quite frankly nobody cares in the vast majority who enjoy linear and shooting games :roll:

Venom_Raptor

Anyhow, if nobody agrees, there's like 5 or so other people aside from myself who feel somewhat of the same way as me in this topic.



You are saying that you enjoy shallow linear shooting games? Why don't you like games with more content and options? Games that let you do what you want to do? Instead you are constrained with severe limitations on your game and aside from multiplayer, the linear campaign is like 5 hours long.

Who the F could possibly like that?

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

Very few will agree, and since you can't get enough of trolling about "generic games with gunz" maybe you should take up another hobby, because quite frankly nobody cares in the vast majority who enjoy linear and shooting games :roll:

soundcellx

Anyhow, if nobody agrees, there's like 5 or so other people aside from myself who feel somewhat of the same way as me in this topic.



You are saying that you enjoy shallow linear shooting games? Why don't you like games with more content and options? Games that let you do what you want to do? Instead you are constrained with severe limitations on your game and aside from multiplayer, the linear campaign is like 5 hours long.

Who the F could possibly like that?

And I don't think he said he exclusively only likes linear shooters. Not every game needs to be open ended and gives you hundred and one different options. That makes it difficult for the developer to tell a tightly scripted story that is well paced and well written.

Devil May Cry has guns, BioShock has guns and Vanquish has guns. Are they all samey and generic? Yeah, I didn't think so.

And I don't think he said he exclusively only likes linear shooters. Not every game needs to be open ended and gives you hundred and one different options. That makes it difficult for the developer to tell a tightly scripted story that is well paced and well written.

anime_gamer007

Who wants tightly scripted story that is well paced and well written? You beat the game once and you won't give an f about the story anymore. Better to focus more on gameplay and exploration for a more expansive game that is less boring and more to do with many more options.


Bioshock is kind of generic, with it being a FPS. Vanquish is somewhat generic being a TPS, and also with having QTEs. QTEs are awful garbage.

[QUOTE="anime_gamer007"]Devil May Cry has guns, BioShock has guns and Vanquish has guns. Are they all samey and generic? Yeah, I didn't think so.

And I don't think he said he exclusively only likes linear shooters. Not every game needs to be open ended and gives you hundred and one different options. That makes it difficult for the developer to tell a tightly scripted story that is well paced and well written.

soundcellx

Who wants tightly scripted story that is well paced and well written? You beat the game once and you won't give an f about the story anymore. Better to focus more on gameplay and exploration for a more expansive game that is less boring and more to do with many more options.


Bioshock is kind of generic, with it being a FPS. Vanquish is somewhat generic being a TPS, and also with having QTEs. QTEs are awful garbage.

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

Very few will agree, and since you can't get enough of trolling about "generic games with gunz" maybe you should take up another hobby, because quite frankly nobody cares in the vast majority who enjoy linear and shooting games :roll:

soundcellx

Anyhow, if nobody agrees, there's like 5 or so other people aside from myself who feel somewhat of the same way as me in this topic.



You are saying that you enjoy shallow linear shooting games? Why don't you like games with more content and options? Games that let you do what you want to do? Instead you are constrained with severe limitations on your game and aside from multiplayer, the linear campaign is like 5 hours long.

Who the F could possibly like that?

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

Very few will agree, and since you can't get enough of trolling about "generic games with gunz" maybe you should take up another hobby, because quite frankly nobody cares in the vast majority who enjoy linear and shooting games :roll:

ShangTsung17

Anyhow, if nobody agrees, there's like 5 or so other people aside from myself who feel somewhat of the same way as me in this topic.



You are saying that you enjoy shallow linear shooting games? Why don't you like games with more content and options? Games that let you do what you want to do? Instead you are constrained with severe limitations on your game and aside from multiplayer, the linear campaign is like 5 hours long.

Who the F could possibly like that?

soundcellx- i hear ya man, u should see how i play that game, i play like a kill crazed psycho who can't be stopped! only people i let live are the pedestrians.. lmfao Deus Ex is the perfect example of just how awesome a game can be when its not held back by stupid crap like multiplayer, Deus Ex had no mp what-so-ever leeching off it which is the ONLY reason it did so well, had they shoved mp into it like every other shooter i garantee u it would have sucked balls and we wouldn't be talking about it right now.. see games like this are the reason i'm just dumb founded sometimes trying to understand why so many game devs can't learn from this and just STOP FORCING MULTIPLAYER INTO EVERYTHING! seriously it just makes me shake my head in confusion... we don't need it!!! game devs need to wake up and realise this!!!

soundcellx- i hear ya man, u should see how i play that game, i play like a kill crazed psycho who can't be stopped! only people i let live are the pedestrians.. lmfao Deus Ex is the perfect example of just how awesome a game can be when its not held back by stupid crap like multiplayer, Deus Ex had no mp what-so-ever leeching off it which is the ONLY reason it did so well, had they shoved mp into it like every other shooter i garantee u it would have sucked balls and we wouldn't be talking about it right now.. see games like this are the reason i'm just dumb founded sometimes trying to understand why so many game devs can't learn from this and just STOP FORCING MULTIPLAYER INTO EVERYTHING! seriously it just makes me shake my head in confusion... we don't need it!!! game devs need to wake up and realise this!!!

ShangTsung17

Getting angry at someone over something can make us look like fools if we don't have all the facts and even moreso if we don't even know the thought process involved in the actions that led to our being angry. Imagine that we're sleeping and the doorbell rings at 2:00 A.M., we would then ignore it in hopes that it will stop. The doorbell rings more and more and then we yell at the top of our lungs to this person and tell them to go away. The stranger calls out to us and says "Your house is on fire!" Now would we still be angry at this stranger?

Getting angry at someone over something can make us look like fools if we don't have all the facts and even moreso if we don't even know the thought process involved in the actions that led to our being angry. Imagine that we're sleeping and the doorbell rings at 2:00 A.M., we would then ignore it in hopes that it will stop. The doorbell rings more and more and then we yell at the top of our lungs to this person and tell them to go away. The stranger calls out to us and says "Your house is on fire!" Now would we still be angry at this stranger?

Zidaneski

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

soundcellx- i hear ya man, u should see how i play that game, i play like a kill crazed psycho who can't be stopped! only people i let live are the pedestrians.. lmfao Deus Ex is the perfect example of just how awesome a game can be when its not held back by stupid crap like multiplayer, Deus Ex had no mp what-so-ever leeching off it which is the ONLY reason it did so well, had they shoved mp into it like every other shooter i garantee u it would have sucked balls and we wouldn't be talking about it right now.. see games like this are the reason i'm just dumb founded sometimes trying to understand why so many game devs can't learn from this and just STOP FORCING MULTIPLAYER INTO EVERYTHING! seriously it just makes me shake my head in confusion... we don't need it!!! game devs need to wake up and realise this!!!

soundcellx

I too really like the older games and still play them today. Just because there are things one would dislike about games today, would it be fair to start demeaning it and the people that made it? If I made a videogame today and I wanted to put multi-player in it would you start insulting me and what I made?

Just because there are things one would dislike about games today, would it be fair to start demeaning it and the people that made it? If I made a videogame today and I wanted to put multi-player in it would you start insulting me and what I made?Zidaneski

It started as guys in garages who loved gaming made games.Many failed and the best are what shaped gaming.I remember you couldnt have games that used the same mechanics you always had to have something new to stand out.Then gaming got bigger and turned into companys,then CEOs from Doritos and pepsi came in to run sheet.They looked at charts at the meeting and said"that Call of Duty thing,there really doing some business.Lets make our game like that,so we can get in on that"."I know what Im talking about I use to run pizza hut".

So now every other game uses unreal3 engine,if the game actually lets you play and doesnt play itself,the camera will be right behind your head with 1-3 options of height,right stick looks around,and there will be 3-4 icons in a corner reminding you what the buttons do like ocarina of time.Rather the character im moving around is called Mario,Captain Sheperd,Enzio,Markus Fenix,or Link theres just so many times I can play THIS game before i say I GET IT lets try something new.

TC you should check out Kingdom Rush on Kongregate.Its a simple tower defense,but develishly clever and cool graphics that enhance its fun gameplay.Beware you may blink and it will be dawn outside.

Mostly what im saying applys to those who like RPGs and strategy.If you like FPS and TPS then good for you you are in the golden age of gaming.I like those and a little of everything.I view the problem as everything has turned into that small segment and stagnated.Fallout,elder scrolls,mass effect the new "RPGs" they might as well call them Gears of War 4,5,and 6.As Al gore's supporters say"Ive been disenfranchised".I want a recount on this game development.