Why is GTA IV being called overrated?

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#1 ihacker
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Everybody is saying that gta is overrated and boring. The game had an amazing 20+ hour long campaign with amazing detail and many really fun multiplayer modes. What else do people want? I guess they thought the game would last forever and they could drive around the city and blow up cars and it would never get boring. But it's just a game, and it has to end. Post what you think of GTA IV now that the hype is gone.
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#2 ANIALATOR136
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i think people were expecting it to last as long as VC or SA
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#3 Silent-Hal
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I haven't been able to bring myself finish it yet. There's not all that much to do or find outside of the missions (unlike the previous games) and the missions themselves have gotten a little too repetitive for my tastes. It's just the same stuff over and over.

Most of the extra stuff is useless and indeed, boring. The social aspects ruined it slightly for me. Who thought it would be a good idea to have some stupid in-game friends call you every 5 minutes (often in the middle of a mission) to ask you go bowling, or whatever?

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#4 ihacker
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Besides the missions there isn't anything to do but I think the story was good enough to stand alone. I only played the story and then never played the game again, but since the story was so good and fun I believe it deserves a 10 out of 10. And I agree with the idiot idea of the friends bothering you while your doing something in the game.
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#5 metalgear-s
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It's overrated because it's a broken and repetitive game. Yet it gest more praise from critics than true masterpeices like MGS4.
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#6 robobie
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TC.... I know what you mean... I still think it is the best game ever and I still play it on a regular basis..!
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#7 SonyMarksman70
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i think people were expecting it to last as long as VC or SAANIALATOR136
Ty, its sorta like we love every visual aspect, but the story was just a glimpse of the game, it should have gone 50 h of story like SA.
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#8 Foffity
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It's overrated because it isn't a great game. After the story there isn't anything to do, and the story is terrible compared to other GTA's. Niko is a good character, but the missions just got so repetitive after a while.
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#9 mamkem6
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It is the same like its predecessor only with better graphics and online

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#10 gekidami
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I haven't been able to bring myself finish it yet. There's not all that much to do or find outside of the missions (unlike the previous games) and the missions themselves have gotten a little too repetitive for my tastes. It's just the same stuff over and over.

Silent-Hal

Hit the nail right on the head.

Once you've done the 'kill, steal, drive, repeat' missions your left with nothing.

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#11 icytony
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It is the same like its predecessor only with better graphics and online

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Agreed, i actually liked the story though, thought it was original. Vice City was a rip of Scarface and SA was a rip of Boyz in the Hood and Menance to Society.
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#12 Tokeism
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GTA4 is over rated because its nothing new, its just had a face lift
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#13 btaylor2404
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I'm one of those that thinks it was slightly overrated. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game, but playing MGS4 right after shed a whole new light on GTAIV. It just wasn't a 10. Maybe 9.0.
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It's overrated because it's a broken and repetitive game. Yet it gest more praise from critics than true masterpeices like MGS4.metalgear-s

Yep;)

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#15 ninjaxams
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because it is. its a shame this game garnered so many perfect scores when it obviously has so many problems. i also found it to be incredibly dull and boring...
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#16 ninjaxams
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[QUOTE="mamkem6"]

It is the same like its predecessor only with better graphics and online

icytony
Agreed, i actually liked the story though, thought it was original. Vice City was a rip of Scarface and SA was a rip of Boyz in the Hood and Menance to Society.

and yet few ppl seem to understand this.
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Everybody is saying that gta is overrated and boring. The game had an amazing 20+ hour long campaign with amazing detail and many really fun multiplayer modes. What else do people want? I guess they thought the game would last forever and they could drive around the city and blow up cars and it would never get boring. But it's just a game, and it has to end. Post what you think of GTA IV now that the hype is gone. ihacker

The game also had a not-so-amazing 20 FPS frame rate, more bugs than the city dump, a vanilla storyline with unlikeable characters and the only "new" feature was that they applied the boring dating mechanic from San Andreas and applied it to men to, only made it more obnoxious and intrusive. That and the story line is all there is to GTA4. There's no side missions that are any fun at all... and you go around the city to kill a few hundred pigeons -- for what? A helicopter that isn't half as good as the Hunter and you need a helicopter to get to that helicopter and it's just a mess. I dunno, this game just wasn't half as fun as any other GTA game I've played. I'd still give it an 8.5, but I think anyone who gives this a 10 is either a fool or has some kind of hidden agenda.

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#18 soren008
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It's my favourite game this gen ... but the missions & setting are not highly ranged enough (like San andreas )

it's overrated & underrated ..... its certainly isn't 10/10

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#19 Gamereviews2008
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There is loads of extra stuff to do in Gta4, like going to strip clubs, picking up prostotues, going to social events like bowling or darts, getting girlfriends, fiding things, blowing stuff up, jumping out of helicopters, killing hidden birds, go on a police crime round, and more. Gta4 has alot of things to do, and is way better than the other games. You can freerun, get on top of buildings and even go inside the statue of happiness to find a heart! Belive me, Gta4 is the best game ever created!
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#20 NSR34GTR
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the game no way deserved a 10
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#21 soren008
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the game no way deserved a 10NSR34GTR

neither did MGS4 .. :o

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#22 _Classic_Gamer_
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Everyone says it's overrated because it gets undeserving 10's from fanboys.
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#23 sanpreet8
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i don't think gta 4 is boring i'm having lots of fun messing around with the physics engine and blowing stuff up so i don't know where people are coming from saying the game is boring.
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#24 metalgear-s
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[QUOTE="NSR34GTR"]the game no way deserved a 10soren008

neither did MGS4 .. :o

Actually MGS4 did. Since it was the closest to perfect a game could come.
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#25 soren008
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[QUOTE="soren008"]

[QUOTE="NSR34GTR"]the game no way deserved a 10metalgear-s

neither did MGS4 .. :o

Actually MGS4 did. Since it was the closest to perfect a game could come.

well it's short & online is awful, unlocks are pretty dull

cutscenes can be cheesy & shallow sometimes

It's great, but it's not perfection by a long shot

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I have around 30 hours of playtime, with only 33% done. I got completely bored by it. I thought it was going to be something more entertaining, kind of like how San Andreas was, but its not. The mini games are not good, the dating system is broken (saying no detracts 20% but going out gives 10?) and annoying. The lack of clothes really pissed me, though what I was planning to use was in the game, a wider selection was not a bad thing. There is no Ambulance or cab missions, the police missions at least are cool, but they should update every X amount of hours the most wanted list, since they are better than the regular objectives. The repetition of kinds of missions. Its like all I have been doing is going to X place, chasing a guy, kill the guy. Thats what Driver was about, not GTA.
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#27 warbmxjohn
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GTA IV is being called overrated because so many people were hyping this game to levels that were unattainable to develop.

Everyone complained about the graphics in the previous installments, so R* put forth more effort to drastically improve the graphics and physics engine, therefore there were losses to the amount of gameplay, storyline, and extra content. Because you can only program so much in a game.

The aiming system was always sub-par at best, now with a much better aiming system, everyone finds something new to complain about.

People say the driving is so much worse, but I guess most of those people can't comprehend that a cars has mass, and that mass transfers as the car turns, accelerates and brakes. If anyone has ever actually pushed a car to its limits cornering they will have an appreciation for the driving improvements. Not to mention that each car has more power as the engine builds up revs making for a much more realistic driving experience.

I agree the social aspect is annoying when in a mission and a friend wants to go drinking, but trust me when you're done with the storyline and just free roaming its nice to still have something going on in the game.

Basically the problem lies with so many people becoming spoiled if you will, and expecting impossible products to be developed for them. Yet they will still say it's too expensive and not good enough. But you can bet they don't try that hard to please in their line of work.

Nothing in this world is perfect but some things come close enough to warrant a perfect score. And IMO like many others GTA IV deserves a 10.

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#28 alwayspureblood
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I rated this game a 6.5

Who cares about the graphics, they could have done away with that and could have actually maked the game fun, I want my money back.Oh. IMO.

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#29 warbmxjohn
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Everyone says it's overrated because it gets undeserving 10's from fanboys._Classic_Gamer_

Fanboys yes, but what about the majority of professional critics and reviewers?

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#30 -Renegade
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I thought it had horrible gameplay, controls and story. There was nothing I liked about the game except the radio stations. I have never played a GTA game before IV and I will never play another one after it.
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#31 warbmxjohn
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I thought it had horrible gameplay, controls and story. There was nothing I liked about the game except the radio stations. I have never played a GTA game before IV and I will never play another one after it.-Renegade

Biased much?

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#32 PStringa
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I think it's probably due to the lack of small extra RPG feature's which were present in SA and next to nothing apart from weapons to spend your money on. Just basically not much to do if you don't wish to follow the main plot. However multiplayer I think was supposed to be the answer to that problem but sadly for me just didn't quite cut it.
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#33 kenshinhimura16
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I think it's probably due to the lack of small extra RPG feature's which were present in SA and next to nothing apart from weapons to spend your money on. Just basically not much to do if you don't wish to follow the main plot. However multiplayer I think was supposed to be the answer to that problem but sadly for me just didn't quite cut it.PStringa

Yep, that was the thing that bothered me the most. I consider that all games require little RPG elements in this age to keep you going. There are only a few that can go away without them. But in GTA, you need them, a reason to be there or to use something. Not having at least skills was a real piece of crap imo.

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#34 warbmxjohn
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[QUOTE="PStringa"]I think it's probably due to the lack of small extra RPG feature's which were present in SA and next to nothing apart from weapons to spend your money on. Just basically not much to do if you don't wish to follow the main plot. However multiplayer I think was supposed to be the answer to that problem but sadly for me just didn't quite cut it.kenshinhimura16

Yep, that was the thing that bothered me the most. I consider that all games require little RPG elements in this age to keep you going. There are only a few that can go away without them. But in GTA, you need them, a reason to be there or to use something. Not having at least skills was a real piece of crap imo.

I kinda liked that Niko could already handle a gun, but I liked it more in GTA SA when I was dual wielding and gaining lock-on distance as my skills with a certain weapon increased. I agree that RPG elements are what helps prolong the incentive of playing almost any game, and would have definitly improved on GTA IV.

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#35 PSFreak1
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The game wasnt as same material as MGS4... its not 10/10 MATERIAL its a 9/10!
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#36 CosmoKing7717
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THIS is the best review i've seen for the game. Gets it right on. NO bias against or towards it like people giving it 6.5's and 10's.
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#37 metalgear-s
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It's great, but it's not perfection by a long shot soren008
MGS4 has the best story, best graphics and awesome gameplay. There is not much more to wish. Plus it's got great replay value.
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#38 BioShockOwnz
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Because it's the cool thing to do. Different strokes for different folks. Doesn't mean it's overrated.
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#39 adam_53
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the controls really bothered me, the lighting made it hard to see, the only thing i like was the scale and detail of the city. i honestly cant even make myself play it to get to manhattan, n thats the only reason i WOULD. i was let down
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[QUOTE="soren008"]It's great, but it's not perfection by a long shot metalgear-s
MGS4 has the best story, best graphics and awesome gameplay. There is not much more to wish. Plus it's got great replay value.

No to all of that. I finished MGS4 and put it on the shelf. I have no need to replay it.

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#41 steizgr8
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[QUOTE="NSR34GTR"]the game no way deserved a 10soren008

neither did MGS4 .. :o

BLASPHEMY!

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#42 namcoman67
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i myself never got into GTA games. idk most free roaming games i would get bored of it after awhile. not into the whole gangster hip hip culture i guess. i like Metal Gear Solid 4 better. its more story based and character driven. i think Infamous, Prototype & Yakuza 2 look fun though. i actually liked Yakuza 1. i liked the whole japan mafia thing. i always thought GTA leans more into the whole rap, hip hop gangaster culture.
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#43 ninjaxams
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[QUOTE="metalgear-s"][QUOTE="soren008"]It's great, but it's not perfection by a long shot BioShockOwnz

MGS4 has the best story, best graphics and awesome gameplay. There is not much more to wish. Plus it's got great replay value.

No to all of that. I finished MGS4 and put it on the shelf. I have no need to replay it.

as did many with that pos glorified relationship sim...
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#44 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="metalgear-s"][QUOTE="soren008"]It's great, but it's not perfection by a long shot ninjaxams

MGS4 has the best story, best graphics and awesome gameplay. There is not much more to wish. Plus it's got great replay value.

No to all of that. I finished MGS4 and put it on the shelf. I have no need to replay it.

as did many with that pos glorified relationship sim...

Go play Tenchu Z and leave me alone.;)

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#45 TheCraving
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I think Rockstar made the mistake of wanting people to follow the storyline more. But sadly, even though it is a decent storyline, it isn't great when compared to other games (MGS4 comes to mind even though they are two completely different genre of games) and when looking back through the GTA series, the things to do when the storyline was completed was the hook of the game. Trimming a sandbox game down to a simple 'follow the storyline' game wasn't the best of ideas. That is why, in my opinion, it was over-rated.
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#46 moej88
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The game is amazing I agree.

But If we look back at VC and SA we would be able to see how much content there was in the game aside from the main story.

For example and these are a few of many things that should have been worked on:

U cant buy property

U cant collect weekly or daily money from places that u own or u have control over.

There is not a signle gang that hates u. I drive down the street feeling safe no one is gonna shoot me or give me a reason to shoot them.

It is still an amazing game, but if they update it that would be great.

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#47 BioShockOwnz
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The game is amazing I agree.

But If we look back at VC and SA we would be able to see how much content there was in the game aside from the main story.

For example and these are a few of many things that should have been worked on:

U cant buy property

U cant collect weekly or daily money from places that u own or u have control over.

There is not a signle gang that hates u. I drive down the street feeling safe no one is gonna shoot me or give me a reason to shoot them.

It is still an amazing game, but if they update it that would be great.

moej88

Quality > quantity.

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#48 monie11k
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[QUOTE="moej88"]

The game is amazing I agree.

But If we look back at VC and SA we would be able to see how much content there was in the game aside from the main story.

For example and these are a few of many things that should have been worked on:

U cant buy property

U cant collect weekly or daily money from places that u own or u have control over.

There is not a signle gang that hates u. I drive down the street feeling safe no one is gonna shoot me or give me a reason to shoot them.

It is still an amazing game, but if they update it that would be great.

BioShockOwnz

Quality > quantity.

they should have build upon those elements and others.

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#49 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="moej88"]

The game is amazing I agree.

But If we look back at VC and SA we would be able to see how much content there was in the game aside from the main story.

For example and these are a few of many things that should have been worked on:

U cant buy property

U cant collect weekly or daily money from places that u own or u have control over.

There is not a signle gang that hates u. I drive down the street feeling safe no one is gonna shoot me or give me a reason to shoot them.

It is still an amazing game, but if they update it that would be great.

monie11k

Quality > quantity.

they should have build upon those elements and others.

I disagree. I like the more gritty and realistic vibe of GTA IV.

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#50 TheCraving
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Also, don't you think the storyline is kind of ruined when Niko says "I need money" despite the fact he just earned $250,000 from 1 job alone? Fair enough early on in the storyline you're very poor but when you're pushing a $1,000,000 and he STILL says he wants to earn more money, it feels sort of, well, wrong.

It takes away the whole "trying to live the American dream" of cars, money and women when he is practically living it anyway.