Will I Go To Hell if I Play Persona 3?

[QUOTE="jeffbase33"]

Being the only main release this week and such a huge fan base, I am tempted to check out this game. However, it is said to have occultic themes and there is a satanic pentagram on the cover. I don't want to open up room for demon influence in my apartment.

Any Christian gamers out there have any problems with this game? I still won't touch Diablo!

Afro_Samurai

Lol. Look at it this way: If you go to hell for playing Persona 3, myself [along with pretty much every adult gamer] will be right along side you for playing GTA I through IV, Resident Evil, Jericho, Condemned I & II, soon-to-be-released Dead Space, etc, etc, etc. Feel better now?

Yeeeeah, you'll have friends in hell!

Being the only main release this week and such a huge fan base, I am tempted to check out this game. However, it is said to have occultic themes and there is a satanic pentagram on the cover. I don't want to open up room for demon influence in my apartment.

Any Christian gamers out there have any problems with this game? I still won't touch Diablo!

jeffbase33

LMAO! This is probably the funniest thing I've read all day!

On a more serious note, you do realize that you're talking about a video game right?

[QUOTE="Afro_Samurai"][QUOTE="jeffbase33"]

Being the only main release this week and such a huge fan base, I am tempted to check out this game. However, it is said to have occultic themes and there is a satanic pentagram on the cover. I don't want to open up room for demon influence in my apartment.

Any Christian gamers out there have any problems with this game? I still won't touch Diablo!

catfishmoon23

Lol. Look at it this way: If you go to hell for playing Persona 3, myself [along with pretty much every adult gamer] will be right along side you for playing GTA I through IV, Resident Evil, Jericho, Condemned I & II, soon-to-be-released Dead Space, etc, etc, etc. Feel better now?

Yeeeeah, you'll have friends in hell!

LMAO !!

Being the only main release this week and such a huge fan base, I am tempted to check out this game. However, it is said to have occultic themes and there is a satanic pentagram on the cover. I don't want to open up room for demon influence in my apartment.

Any Christian gamers out there have any problems with this game? I still won't touch Diablo!

jeffbase33

[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="enygma500"]

excuse me??? i said if god is all forgiving then it shouldn't matter either way. i choose not to believe because god has not shown me he exists. that however does not mean he's not there. and if you believe in the bible there ARE indeed second chances as long as you truly are sorry for the mistakes you've made in the past and repent for them, with the exclusion of a couple, none of which i ever intend on commiting in my lifetime. i know many many religious people who are much worse then me. and by youre words they'll get into heaven ahead of me because they believe in god. BS. you have no idea what your talking about and need to read your bible a little more closely.

i may not be religious but i know enough about it to know what im talking about.lack of proof is not the same as lack of faith, get your facts straight and maybe try comming up with your own beliefs rather then following something someone else tells you is right. also some religions will even baptize you after you die so you can make the descision after death. BTW if god exists so does the devil. the 2 go hand in hand. if im not mistaken its you religious people who said the greatest thing the devil ever accomplished was making people believe he doesn't exist. you need to get your sh## straight

enygma500

Just to clarify, when I said no second chances I meant after death. You get many chances while your living.

lol i just read that thing on Why the devil doesn't exist. seems to me he just doesn't want to believe in something so terrible. he repeatedly says that man is the evil. i thaught it was the devil who influenced the evil and it was mans choice wether or not to do it. also to judgmenteden there are in FACT religions that will baptize or seal you after death. dont try to tell me there isn't. ive done my research, also i didn't insult you once. also to archangel its hard to believe in a god with all the rape, murder, and hate crimes being commited in this world...by religious folk who go and preach jesus the next day. if you think i haven't tried then you're wrong, my gf believe and has gotten me to go to church with her. plus if there is a god then this is how god made me right? therefore if he knew i would be a non believer during life why would he punish me after death?too many loopholes among other things i think

Being the only main release this week and such a huge fan base, I am tempted to check out this game. However, it is said to have occultic themes and there is a satanic pentagram on the cover. I don't want to open up room for demon influence in my apartment.

Any Christian gamers out there have any problems with this game? I still won't touch Diablo!

jeffbase33

Thats pretty much the only reason I won't play it. I draw the line at stuff like that when choosing my games. The Bible says to stay away from even the appearance of evil. This game has evil written all over it man. Stay away from it bro.

Its just a game. Im Christian to and I would love to play that game and if youre interested in it so do you i think... Get alive. Dont think for God, think for yourself. Maybe He is playng that game right now and we are here discussing this...lol:P

Its just a game. Im Christian to and I would love to play that game and if youre interested in it so do you i think... Get alive. Dont think for God, think for yourself. Maybe He is playng that game right now and we are here discussing this...lol:P

SHADOX22

Wow, that's probably the dumbest thing I've heard on this entire board. The word of God is written into our hearts when we are born. Atheists and people who believe in Evolution needso much more faith to believe that the earth was just magically formed and that there was no creator. They try to shut out the truth. Me, I avoid games like this(as well as Movies, music, media, etc.), everything has wither a good or bad spirit behind it(Yes even video games). The world will make you believe this ok to do, when in fact it is not. Archangel pointed it out great.

Actually Murder is the sin. It is ok to kill in self defense. Otherwise, God would have not helped the Israelites kick butt.

jeffbase33

So it was self defense when they massacred whole cities, and raped their women? I see. You will not go to hell for playing a videogame. It is just a videogame.

Atheists and people who believe in Evolution needso much more faith to believe that the earth was just magically formed and that there was no creator. They try to shut out the truth.

Steel_Rain777

We have tangible proof of how the Earth was formed, it was nothing magical. Planets, and how they are formed, is something proven by science. Our moon didn't just break loose from the Earth already a round chunk of rock, you know. It was tons and tons of debris that came together, in the same way the elements of the Earth did, which is the same way other non gas giant planets came to be. Proof exists for how science explains the formation of the Earth, the only people insisting it magically appeared and who shut out the truth are.... well... you guys. For something to be the truth, it needs proof, you have none.

[QUOTE="SHADOX22"]

Its just a game. Im Christian to and I would love to play that game and if youre interested in it so do you i think... Get alive. Dont think for God, think for yourself. Maybe He is playng that game right now and we are here discussing this...lol:P

Steel_Rain777

Wow, that's probably the dumbest thing I've heard on this entire board. The word of God is written into our hearts when we are born. Atheists and people who believe in Evolution needso much more faith to believe that the earth was just magically formed and that there was no creator. They try to shut out the truth. Me, I avoid games like this(as well as Movies, music, media, etc.), everything has wither a good or bad spirit behind it(Yes even video games). The world will make you believe this ok to do, when in fact it is not. Archangel pointed it out great.

you moron, an atheist is someone who doesnt beleave in god, thats it nothing more, literaly just doesnt beleave in a god any god, realize that evolution happens does not depend on being an athiest the last pope said that evolution is true he just decided to throw in that god started it all since he pretty much has too

[QUOTE="Steel_Rain777"][QUOTE="SHADOX22"]

Its just a game. Im Christian to and I would love to play that game and if youre interested in it so do you i think... Get alive. Dont think for God, think for yourself. Maybe He is playng that game right now and we are here discussing this...lol:P

foxfire0666

Wow, that's probably the dumbest thing I've heard on this entire board. The word of God is written into our hearts when we are born. Atheists and people who believe in Evolution needso much more faith to believe that the earth was just magically formed and that there was no creator. They try to shut out the truth. Me, I avoid games like this(as well as Movies, music, media, etc.), everything has wither a good or bad spirit behind it(Yes even video games). The world will make you believe this ok to do, when in fact it is not. Archangel pointed it out great.

you moron, an atheist is someone who doesnt beleave in god, thats it nothing more, literaly just doesnt beleave in a god any god, realize that evolution happens does not depend on being an athiest the last pope said that evolution is true he just decided to throw in that god started it all since he pretty much has too

Did you just say that Atheists are the ones who believe that Earth was magically created?

[QUOTE="Steel_Rain777"][QUOTE="SHADOX22"]

Its just a game. Im Christian to and I would love to play that game and if youre interested in it so do you i think... Get alive. Dont think for God, think for yourself. Maybe He is playng that game right now and we are here discussing this...lol:P

foxfire0666

Wow, that's probably the dumbest thing I've heard on this entire board. The word of God is written into our hearts when we are born. Atheists and people who believe in Evolution needso much more faith to believe that the earth was just magically formed and that there was no creator. They try to shut out the truth. Me, I avoid games like this(as well as Movies, music, media, etc.), everything has wither a good or bad spirit behind it(Yes even video games). The world will make you believe this ok to do, when in fact it is not. Archangel pointed it out great.

you moron, an atheist is someone who doesnt beleave in god, thats it nothing more, literaly just doesnt beleave in a god any god, realize that evolution happens does not depend on being an athiest the last pope said that evolution is true he just decided to throw in that god started it all since he pretty much has too

oh and since you are soooo misguided in your ideas on evolution and the origins of the earth I will have to inform you, evolution and the origin of the earth have strong support in science and did not happen over night it took millions of years

here is a link to info on it if you decide to actualy find out how things happened and the time frame involved http://www.moorlandschool.co.uk/earth/earthorigin.htm

the reason science is so strong is because its based around disproving things, the way it works is you formulate a hypothosis then test it to see if it can stand up to scruteny, then you submit the results to be tried by your peers and if they still cant disprove it then your hypothosis gets stronger till it has withstood being disproved enough to be accepted as fact IE is known as a theory, thats why evolution is still around, because its withstood the test of time and no other scientific theory has been as challanged as it has, evolution is fact, there is no argument

a pentagram is a positive sign (star of david), an upside down pentagram was used by satan to mock jesus.

think about all the people buying gta 4...

a pentagram is a positive sign (star of david), an upside down pentagram was used by satan to mock jesus.

think about all the people buying gta 4...

shroom76

What on earth does a pentagram have to do with GTA IV? Lol!

I see that you are a fellow Christian/Catholic like me... But if you think about it, you're being really paranoid.

Let's start with the gun to head thing. It's doesn't count as suicide, so it's NOT the sin of suicide.

Second: You are not summoning merely "demons" straight from hell.

Third: You fight these creatures called shadows. Seems to me that you're doing God a service in this game by defeating these demonic things. Without spoiling anything, you fight evil, and defend the good of the people.

Fourth: This game kicks arse.

Fifth: It's a game. Before, I held back in playing games such as God of War (due to the "place no gods before me, etc, etc") but I realized that God's not this guy who'll send you to hell because you're experiencing the religions of others. You don't have to believe in gods and stuff, but you can aknowledge that that faith is there and respect it.

Sixth: This game kicks arse.

Seventh: The game Diablo centers around defeating the demon Diablo. To show off my hatred for Satan, I beat Diablo a few times :D

Eighth: This game kicks arse.

hazelnutman

hazelnutman i just gained respect for you... very well said. A game is just a story. Take it as it is and when your done playing it your still the same person, still christian, hopefully still not going to hell. And I too said the same thing about playing diablo when people asked why i played such a demonic game.

Honestly...The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not care what video games you play. As long as you are a loyal pastafarian he will allow you into heaven to go to the beer volcano and stripper factory. Just keep on being the good pastafarian I know you are and you will be fine!KneeltoErasmus

Thank you....thank you so much ^_^

On another note...seriously. Like everyone's saying, it's just a game. If God is so forgiving, I think he'll let this one slip. It's only entertainment, and as long as you can discern between fantastical entertainment and reality, I don't think it'll be a problem.

Being the only main release this week and such a huge fan base, I am tempted to check out this game. However, it is said to have occultic themes and there is a satanic pentagram on the cover. I don't want to open up room for demon influence in my apartment.

Any Christian gamers out there have any problems with this game? I still won't touch Diablo!

jeffbase33

First let me say everybody has their own creed and everyone should respect each others right to believe what they want.

I am christian. I don't go to church because I believe they are all full of nut jobs (maybe I just went to the wrong churches). But that is just me.

On to your question I don't believe you will go to hell for playing a game. Diablo 2 was one of the best games ever made and you are trying to kill the devil so I don't see what your problem is with it.

The pentagram has a long history and a lot of meanings. The christian church once used it to represent the five wounds of Jesus. It all depends on who's using the symbol.

One more thing, The Lord of the Rings was written by a christian, so I seriously doubt it's evil.

a pentagram is a positive sign (star of david), an upside down pentagram was used by satan to mock jesus.

think about all the people buying gta 4...

shroom76

The pentagram has nothing to do with the Star of David, which is a six pointed star. The pentagram is a five pointed star.

Im in the same boat with you. Really, I wouldnt recommend it. How would it be to go to church, and come home and play a game that has that kind of content? Ive actually had a demonic spirit come into my presence because of a game I was playing. It scared me spitless and havent played the game that I know that caused this. Please, I dont recommend it;theres TONS of other games out there.

Im in the same boat with you. Really, I wouldnt recommend it. How would it be to go to church, and come home and play a game that has that kind of content? Ive actually had a demonic spirit come into my presence because of a game I was playing. It scared me spitless and havent played the game that I know that caused this. Please, I dont recommend it;theres TONS of other games out there.

TheGamerUser

Demonic spirit eh? Tell me about it.

*sigh* Religion will only get in the way of everything..X_CAPCOM_X

I don't know about that, but I just think that some people are waaay too heavily influenced by it... To the point where they've tossed out common sense.

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]*sigh* Religion will only get in the way of everything..StanAce

I don't know about that, but I just think that some people are waaay too heavily influenced by it... To the point where they've tossed out common sense.

Amen!:P

Hmm, this topic hasnt been closed yet? Im surprised...I dont know why some of the users here think its so bad that some people just like to follow a certain yeaching or belief. I think part of the problem with the world today is people have a flippant attitude toward everything. It would be good for people to be less arrogant.JudgementEden

Yeah I hear ya bro. I'm not gonna try and beat a dead horse here. Whatever y'all beliefs are is up to you. I think this topic has run it's course. To all fellow gamers let's get back to gaming. Later y'all and God bless.

It is truly absurd to say you read the Bible, and say it has nothing to say about the devil (satan, lucifer) or hell...that these are just tools made by man. Guess what? The devil's biggest weapon is convincing you and the public that he does not exist or that hell does not exist. If he can do that, then you will obviously not have much incentive to turn to God, Jesus, or the need to acknowledge Jesus' death on the cross. I mean if the devil doesnt exist, does that not leave a HUGE doubt as to whether God exists. You cannot believe in one's existence without a belief in the other. As for the Persona 3, there are definite things you can do to open yourself up to demonic attack...and yes, some games and movies are on the list. Does that mean you will go to hell? Does that mean you've lost your salvation? Absolutely NOT. Your salvation is in the firm belief that Christ died on the cross for your sins...that He is the Risen Lord and Saviour and acknowledging and accepting Him as such. This cannot be won or lost through actions or deeds. It is a matter of the heart. (see Romans 10 in particular verses 9-13). As for whether this Persona 3 is demonic? I dont know much about it. If your worried, ask God about it, He will answer. If it doesnt feel right, then maybe that is already telling you something. It is definitely important to watch and be aware of what you let into your life. You wont lose your salvation over it, but it can open you up to unnecessary attacks from the enemy (satan and his not-so-merry band of losers lol).-ArchAngeL-777-

I normally don't post on these forums but I co-sign this statement 110%. He could'nt of said it any better. And I see you JudgementEden, your on point too.

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]It is truly absurd to say you read the Bible, and say it has nothing to say about the devil (satan, lucifer) or hell...that these are just tools made by man. Guess what? The devil's biggest weapon is convincing you and the public that he does not exist or that hell does not exist. If he can do that, then you will obviously not have much incentive to turn to God, Jesus, or the need to acknowledge Jesus' death on the cross. I mean if the devil doesnt exist, does that not leave a HUGE doubt as to whether God exists. You cannot believe in one's existence without a belief in the other. As for the Persona 3, there are definite things you can do to open yourself up to demonic attack...and yes, some games and movies are on the list. Does that mean you will go to hell? Does that mean you've lost your salvation? Absolutely NOT. Your salvation is in the firm belief that Christ died on the cross for your sins...that He is the Risen Lord and Saviour and acknowledging and accepting Him as such. This cannot be won or lost through actions or deeds. It is a matter of the heart. (see Romans 10 in particular verses 9-13). As for whether this Persona 3 is demonic? I dont know much about it. If your worried, ask God about it, He will answer. If it doesnt feel right, then maybe that is already telling you something. It is definitely important to watch and be aware of what you let into your life. You wont lose your salvation over it, but it can open you up to unnecessary attacks from the enemy (satan and his not-so-merry band of losers lol).gsincs

I normally don't post on these forums but I co-sign this statement 110%. He could'nt of said it any better. And I see you JudgementEden, your on point too.

Why thank you, gsincs :)

that just means you, Boodseeker23, are also going to Hell.

Case closed!