Wtf is Sony doing?!

Now I love Sony as much as the next person, but wtf is Sony doing right now?

They are discontinuing the 60 GB model of PS3 in US, meaning the price cut was pretty much pointless seeing as it lasted for a month or so...and also once again they screw over any other countries outside of the US by not issuing any sort price drop, and instead bundling a couple games and a controller? Whooptee frigging doo...

With Sony pretty much winning this years e3, I thought they'd started getting their head in the right place, but then this? I, and i'm sure many others feel really let down. :(

Two games and ONE controller...And its not great, because the ps3 where I live(UK) should only be £350 or so, but its £425!!

You can put a happy face on it but at the end of the day...we should be paying the same as the US, and not be subjected to bundles.

The PS3 price drop have turned into a PS3 discount clearance sale. Every American 60gb PS3 must go.

If Sony only wanted to reduce the price for a shot period of time then they should have done it the start of November up untill Christmas to get the maximum hype and max console sales.

you get an extra controller and 2 games right out the box for normal price. if you look at it that way, the ps3 was discounted. because if you pay just for a ps3, and pay for an extra controller and pay for 2 games, it's a lot more than you would with the bundle.

but if all you're doing is just focusing on the "oh no! our ps3 is still the same price!" and not looking at the deal you're getting. then i can't help you. Bundles in my opinion our better than price cuts. because you at least get more for your buck then having to buy each thing separate.

When did Sony announce discontinuing the 60GB model?Large_Soda

...Check the first page of this forum.

To Guyhunter: Ain't going nothing useful to say...don't say it. :)

When did Sony announce discontinuing the 60GB model?Large_Soda

video proof from Kaz Hirai

http://atvs.vg.no/player/?id=10235

you get an extra controller and 2 games right out the box for normal price. if you look at it that way, the ps3 was discounted. because if you pay just for a ps3, and pay for an extra controller and pay for 2 games, it's a lot more than you would with the bundle.

but if all you're doing is just focusing on the "oh no! our ps3 is still the same price!" and not looking at the deal you're getting. then i can't help you. Bundles in my opinion our better than price cuts. because you at least get more for your buck then having to buy each thing separate.

kelindas02

that's all well and good for people want MotorStorm and Resistance. but what if you don't want those games?

To Guyhunter: Ain't going nothing useful to say...don't say it. :)

amapi

[QUOTE="amapi"]

To Guyhunter: Ain't going nothing useful to say...don't say it. :)

guyhunter

This is a ps3 forum...and so i'm discussing my issues with this forum. If you don't like it then why keep posting?

If I want to complain, i'll complain. Alright?

This is a ps3 forum...and so i'm discussing my issues with this forum. If you don't like it then why keep posting?

If I want to complain, i'll complain. Alright?

amapi

Price comparing over different territories and currencies has never been a legitimate point.

[QUOTE="kelindas02"]

you get an extra controller and 2 games right out the box for normal price. if you look at it that way, the ps3 was discounted. because if you pay just for a ps3, and pay for an extra controller and pay for 2 games, it's a lot more than you would with the bundle.

but if all you're doing is just focusing on the "oh no! our ps3 is still the same price!" and not looking at the deal you're getting. then i can't help you. Bundles in my opinion our better than price cuts. because you at least get more for your buck then having to buy each thing separate.

eclipsed4utoo

that's all well and good for people want MotorStorm and Resistance. but what if you don't want those games?

then you can at least trade them in for something else. But seeing how both of those games are the best sellers on the system at the moment, feels like a good deal. but if the person doesn't want those games, then that person's situation is up dookie creek without a paddle, now isn't it? but if i was a first time buyer, I'd still be more inclined to buy the bundle vs the stand alone.

you get an extra controller and 2 games right out the box for normal price. if you look at it that way, the ps3 was discounted. because if you pay just for a ps3, and pay for an extra controller and pay for 2 games, it's a lot more than you would with the bundle.

but if all you're doing is just focusing on the "oh no! our ps3 is still the same price!" and not looking at the deal you're getting. then i can't help you. Bundles in my opinion our better than price cuts. because you at least get more for your buck then having to buy each thing separate.

kelindas02

you're absolutely correct

They are dumping remaining Sixaxis stock with all these bundle packages worldwide. Expect announcement of new official Sony controller with rumble+motion sensor in TGS, and another worldwide price drop in holiday season.

The price drop was to spike the sales of existing models currently in stores. That strategy worked since PS3s are flying off the shelves.Some of you fail to forget that it cost money to make a PS3 and Sony was already losing money. There move to stop making 60GB models doesn't surprise me.

It is only $100 extra dollars with an 20GB increase. What is all the fuss about?

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"]When did Sony announce discontinuing the 60GB model?amapi

...Check the first page of this forum.

To Guyhunter: Ain't going nothing useful to say...don't say it. :)

Don't hate on Guyhunter, he said a lot there, why are you getting all worked up, Sony decided to make a move and push for a bigger consumer base in the US, sure they take a little more convicing than Europe does, but if this is what it takes to get some love in the US market, I say more power to them, and everybody who didn't already have a PS3, these are lucky days, GO GET ONE TODAY!!:D:D:D

i dont see a problem. We are basically buying a 80 gig PS3 same price for the 60 gig. I own a 60 gig and i wish i had an 80 gig. Considering I live in the UK it cost hell a lot more than the USA so americans should be grateful. AND they are getting it before us. Consider yourselfs lucky from the whole world.sim_dude_uk

You canput in a bigger HDD if you need more space it's cheap and pretty easy to do, and the PS3 is only cheaper in the US because the $ is loosing it's value, so you can't really blameAmericans for that.

The price drop was to spike the sales of existing models currently in stores. That strategy worked since PS3s are flying off the shelves.Some of you fail to forget that it cost money to make a PS3 and Sony was already losing money. There move to stop making 60GB models doesn't surprise me.

It is only $100 extra dollars with an 20GB increase. What is all the fuss about?

mrvic87

here is the big fuss:

1. You can buy a 60GB HDD for $50 and an 80GB HDD for $60(only $10 price difference), and MotorStorm only costs $60. Where is the other $30 coming from?
2. Discontinuing the 60GB PS3 means that the only PS3 on the market is at $599 again...therefore negating the "price drop" announcement
3. Consumers are forced into buying a bundle.

i dont see a problem. We are basically buying a 80 gig PS3 same price for the 60 gig. I own a 60 gig and i wish i had an 80 gig. Considering I live in the UK it cost hell a lot more than the USA so americans should be grateful. AND they are getting it before us. Consider yourselfs lucky from the whole world.sim_dude_uk

then Sony should have never announced the "price drop"...because it's not a price drop. its a clearance sale.

When did Sony announce discontinuing the 60GB model?Large_Soda

As far as I know Sony Computer Entertainment of America did not. However, the head of Sony Computer Entertainment of Europe said it was going to happen. Of course he could just be saying that to make Europeans feel better about not getting a price cut.

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"]When did Sony announce discontinuing the 60GB model?Maverick128

As far as I know Sony Computer Entertainment of America did not. However, the head of Sony Computer Entertainment of Europe said it was going to happen. Of course he could just be saying that to make Europeans feel better about not getting a price cut.

Kaz Hirai also stated it in a video interview.

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"]When did Sony announce discontinuing the 60GB model?eclipsed4utoo

video proof from Kaz Hirai

http://atvs.vg.no/player/?id=10235

I just saw that video. What a bad move by Sony.

[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"]

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"]When did Sony announce discontinuing the 60GB model?azzezino

video proof from Kaz Hirai

http://atvs.vg.no/player/?id=10235

I just saw that video. What a bad move by Sony.

$100 discount plus $150 worth of free stuff is better than 20GB more space in my book any day, regardless of how long or short the offer is.

[QUOTE="mrvic87"]

The price drop was to spike the sales of existing models currently in stores. That strategy worked since PS3s are flying off the shelves.Some of you fail to forget that it cost money to make a PS3 and Sony was already losing money. There move to stop making 60GB models doesn't surprise me.

It is only $100 extra dollars with an 20GB increase. What is all the fuss about?

eclipsed4utoo

here is the big fuss:

1. You can buy a 60GB HDD for $50 and an 80GB HDD for $60(only $10 price difference), and MotorStorm only costs $60. Where is the other $30 coming from?
2. Discontinuing the 60GB PS3 means that the only PS3 on the market is at $599 again...therefore negating the "price drop" announcement
3. Consumers are forced into buying a bundle.

Thank you. Finally someone with sense understands.

He said the price would drop for the remaining 60GB models... He never said it was a price drop on all PS3s.

I honestly think that the $599 retail price is not badfor what you get for the PS3.

[QUOTE="mrvic87"]

The price drop was to spike the sales of existing models currently in stores. That strategy worked since PS3s are flying off the shelves.Some of you fail to forget that it cost money to make a PS3 and Sony was already losing money. There move to stop making 60GB models doesn't surprise me.

It is only $100 extra dollars with an 20GB increase. What is all the fuss about?

eclipsed4utoo

here is the big fuss:

1. You can buy a 60GB HDD for $50 and an 80GB HDD for $60(only $10 price difference), and MotorStorm only costs $60. Where is the other $30 coming from?
2. Discontinuing the 60GB PS3 means that the only PS3 on the market is at $599 again...therefore negating the "price drop" announcement
3. Consumers are forced into buying a bundle.

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]i dont see a problem. We are basically buying a 80 gig PS3 same price for the 60 gig. I own a 60 gig and i wish i had an 80 gig. Considering I live in the UK it cost hell a lot more than the USA so americans should be grateful. AND they are getting it before us. Consider yourselfs lucky from the whole world.Nene33

You canput in a bigger HDD if you need more space it's cheap and pretty easy to do, and the PS3 is only cheaper in the US because the $ is loosing it's value, so you can't really blameAmericans for that.

I don't mean to be mean but... if the USD (read: dollar) is going down in value... wouldn't that mean that you have to pay using more of them for the same thing? Therefore you would have to shell over a lot more dollars for the same value of product?

I don't mean to be mean but... if the USD (read: dollar) is going down in value... wouldn't that mean that you have to pay using more of them for the same thing? Therefore you would have to shell over a lot more dollars for the same value of product?

-oG-ShAdY

The US$ only changes value when compared to other currencies around the world. If you live in the US and spend US$ then a dollar is always a dollar.

I would completely agree with you my friend. I have the money. I paid full price for my 60GB PS3... then you know what happened... they dropped the price. Then I took my reciept back to Best Buy and they gave me 100 dollars cash back for the difference. I think the PS3 is a great value already. I have two games for it and dozens of demos and one downloadable game. I'm set. Can't wait for Ratchet and Clank.

He said the price would drop for the remaining 60GB models... He never said it was a price drop on all PS3s.

I honestly think that the $599 retail price is not a bad price for what you get for the PS3.

[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="mrvic87"]

The price drop was to spike the sales of existing models currently in stores. That strategy worked since PS3s are flying off the shelves.Some of you fail to forget that it cost money to make a PS3 and Sony was already losing money. There move to stop making 60GB models doesn't surprise me.

It is only $100 extra dollars with an 20GB increase. What is all the fuss about?

mrvic87

here is the big fuss:

1. You can buy a 60GB HDD for $50 and an 80GB HDD for $60(only $10 price difference), and MotorStorm only costs $60. Where is the other $30 coming from?
2. Discontinuing the 60GB PS3 means that the only PS3 on the market is at $599 again...therefore negating the "price drop" announcement
3. Consumers are forced into buying a bundle.

[QUOTE="azzezino"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"]

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"]When did Sony announce discontinuing the 60GB model?emitsu97

video proof from Kaz Hirai

http://atvs.vg.no/player/?id=10235

I just saw that video. What a bad move by Sony.

$100 discount plus $150 worth of free stuff is better than 20GB more space in my book any day, regardless of how long or short the offer is.

I think its a good deal one thing i need to ask is it 2 games and 1 contoler or 2 controlers and 1 game and BTW you get 5 free Blu-Ray movies 4 free right?

[QUOTE="-oG-ShAdY"]

I don't mean to be mean but... if the USD (read: dollar) is going down in value... wouldn't that mean that you have to pay using more of them for the same thing? Therefore you would have to shell over a lot more dollars for the same value of product?

emitsu97

The US$ only changes value when compared to other currencies around the world. If you live in the US and spend US$ then a dollar is always a dollar.

That value of one unit of currency is equated to the amount of gold you can get for it in exchange. The USD can be worth more on Tuesday and be worth less in America on Wednesday.

Now I love Sony as much as the next person, but wtf is Sony doing right now?

They are discontinuing the 60 GB model of PS3 in US, meaning the price cut was pretty much pointless seeing as it lasted for a month or so...and also once again they screw over any other countries outside of the US by not issuing any sort price drop, and instead bundling a couple games and a controller? Whooptee frigging doo...

With Sony pretty much winning this years e3, I thought they'd started getting their head in the right place, but then this? I, and i'm sure many others feel really let down. :(

amapi

Agreed. At 499, we were right there with the competition. At 599.00, we're off in 3DO and Neo Geo land. Just too expensive for anyone to justify for a console regardless of whether or not it comes with Motorstorm and 20 extra gigs. 599.00 is just too expensive. Didn't Sony learn this? This is why the PS3 sat on shelves for the past few months. Yeah there were no games but, let's be honest, when it comes to making games both systems will probably be even for the considerably future. That said, you walk in a store and see a 360 for 299 or 379 and then you see the pS3 for 599. C'mon Sony, not all gamers are so hardcore that they're going to spend that much to play Killzone, MGS4, and FF. So they created a buzz and now force those wanting a pS3 to have to get one ASAP before it's sold out everywhere. Making people jump through hoops is not cool...MS learned that with their customer service fiasco. Bad move by Sony and a very dumb way to shoot yourself in the foot after a steller E3.

P.S...don't give me that crap about the good deal that is the 599.00 bundle because the 60 gig was a good deal to begin with! What we've learned is that people will not buy a system, no matter how much extra stuff you get, when it's 599.00. So a game, 20 extra gigs, controllers, or whatever won't matter when the games, again, look about even and the competition is right there at 200 to 300 bucks less. For that price difference you can buy a game you want, a controller if you want, and still pocket some money.

He said the price would drop for the remaining 60GB models... He never said it was a price drop on all PS3s.

I honestly think that the $599 retail price is not badfor what you get for the PS3.

mrvic87

It might not be a bad price, but clearly from sales it is was not a price that consumers were happy with. Once word got out that the ps3 price dropped it was outselling every other console in the states. Now that effect may have only been temporary, but it was a positive. Now they are going back to the old price, and granted they will have better excluscive games out: Lair, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Unchartered, UT3, Haze, and Ratchet and Clank all before the holiday season people will be complaining about the higher price. The change could cause sony to alienate some fans/gamers.

I think its a good deal one thing i need to ask is it 2 games and 1 contoler or 2 controlers and 1 game and BTW you get 5 free Blu-Ray movies 4 free right?

Shugo129

I know Gamestop is doing the $499 with 5 free BR movies but they don't say anything about the controllers or games. Also, the 5 BR movies is a special for any blu-ray player purchase, not just the PS3.

[QUOTE="mrvic87"]

He said the price would drop for the remaining 60GB models... He never said it was a price drop on all PS3s.

I honestly think that the $599 retail price is not badfor what you get for the PS3.

HideoFox

It might not be a bad price, but clearly from sales it is was not a price that consumers were happy with. Once word got out that the ps3 price dropped it was outselling every other console in the states. Now that effect may have only been temporary, but it was a positive. Now they are going back to the old price, and granted they will have better excluscive games out: Lair, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Unchartered, UT3, Haze, and Ratchet and Clank all before the holiday season people will be complaining about the higher price. The change could cause sony to alienate some fans/gamers.

This is just creating your own buzz and forcing people to buy your system if they want it at the price cut. This is not good at all because when all the 60 gigs are gone, and the holiday season comes (that's right, when the business does like 75% of it's business), people are going to be forced to fork over 600 bucks for a system when they could get something else for 200-300 bucks less. Not a sound decision. As you said, the consumer will not spend that much on a system. 499.00, in less than a month, resulted in a sellout in retailers and online stores. That was the ideal price.

That value of one unit of currency is equated to the amount of gold you can get for it in exchange. The USD can be worth more on Tuesday and be worth less in America on Wednesday.

-oG-ShAdY

That's right, but true currency values are only practiced when exchanged for other currencies. One market has no base for comparing the price of any given product in another market unless they plan on purchasing from there.

He said the price would drop for the remaining 60GB models... He never said it was a price drop on all PS3s.

I honestly think that the $599 retail price is not badfor what you get for the PS3.

[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="mrvic87"]

The price drop was to spike the sales of existing models currently in stores. That strategy worked since PS3s are flying off the shelves.Some of you fail to forget that it cost money to make a PS3 and Sony was already losing money. There move to stop making 60GB models doesn't surprise me.

It is only $100 extra dollars with an 20GB increase. What is all the fuss about?

mrvic87

here is the big fuss:

1. You can buy a 60GB HDD for $50 and an 80GB HDD for $60(only $10 price difference), and MotorStorm only costs $60. Where is the other $30 coming from?
2. Discontinuing the 60GB PS3 means that the only PS3 on the market is at $599 again...therefore negating the "price drop" announcement
3. Consumers are forced into buying a bundle.

straight from the Playstation Blog...

In addition, as some of you speculated last week, we confirmed today that we are lowering the price of our current 60GB PS3 by $100, to $499, effective immediately in North America. I know many of you were eager to hear this and we're thrilled to share this with you now as we head into E3.

nowhere in any annoucement about the price drop did they say, "Remaining models". don't put words into announcements just to backup your thoughts.

you get an extra controller and 2 games right out the box for normal price. if you look at it that way, the ps3 was discounted. because if you pay just for a ps3, and pay for an extra controller and pay for 2 games, it's a lot more than you would with the bundle.

but if all you're doing is just focusing on the "oh no! our ps3 is still the same price!" and not looking at the deal you're getting. then i can't help you. Bundles in my opinion our better than price cuts. because you at least get more for your buck then having to buy each thing separate.

kelindas02

but do you get to pick those two games or are they already picked for you?

[QUOTE="-oG-ShAdY"]

That value of one unit of currency is equated to the amount of gold you can get for it in exchange. The USD can be worth more on Tuesday and be worth less in America on Wednesday.

emitsu97

That's right, but true currency values are only practiced when exchanged for other currencies. One market has no base for comparing the price of any given product in another market unless they plan on purchasing from there.

If you live and work in the US you don't buy things with £.

I have imported things for both the EU and *** markets. I live and work in the US. I personally hate tariffs.

[QUOTE="kelindas02"]

you get an extra controller and 2 games right out the box for normal price. if you look at it that way, the ps3 was discounted. because if you pay just for a ps3, and pay for an extra controller and pay for 2 games, it's a lot more than you would with the bundle.

but if all you're doing is just focusing on the "oh no! our ps3 is still the same price!" and not looking at the deal you're getting. then i can't help you. Bundles in my opinion our better than price cuts. because you at least get more for your buck then having to buy each thing separate.

Lach0121

but do you get to pick those two games or are they already picked for you?

they are picked for you....they are Resistance and MotorStorm.

Does anyone really know for a fact that once the 60GB is gone that the $599.99 80GB bundle will in fact be the standing price. I thought that the bundle was limited edition and once that is gone I highly doubt that it will stay at that price.TelcharXI

They'll have to drop the price again. They'll have to come out with a version that's just a PS3 and...oh man this was so dumb. I'm typing this about to say they'll essentially need to come out with the 60 gig when they already have a 60 gig and they're discontinuing it. Ay yi yi. If anything, I think since the 599 doesn't have the emotion chip, that whatever new version they come out with won't have the emotion chip either. Maybe they could price this emotionless PS3 at 399.00. But they have to do this before the holiday season starts.

I have imported things for both the EU and *** markets. I live and work in the US. I personally hate tariffs.

-oG-ShAdY

Then you fall into this category:

That's right, but true currency values are only practiced when exchanged for other currencies. One market has no base for comparing the price of any given product in another market unless they plan on purchasing from there.

If you live and work in the US you don't buy things with £.emitsu97

Most people don't spend additional money on items they can get for cheaper in their own market.

[QUOTE="Lach0121"][QUOTE="kelindas02"]

you get an extra controller and 2 games right out the box for normal price. if you look at it that way, the ps3 was discounted. because if you pay just for a ps3, and pay for an extra controller and pay for 2 games, it's a lot more than you would with the bundle.

but if all you're doing is just focusing on the "oh no! our ps3 is still the same price!" and not looking at the deal you're getting. then i can't help you. Bundles in my opinion our better than price cuts. because you at least get more for your buck then having to buy each thing separate.

eclipsed4utoo

but do you get to pick those two games or are they already picked for you?

they are picked for you....they are Resistance and MotorStorm.