2020 Election Day Thread: Biden 306 - Trump 232 (CNN). Joseph R. Biden Jr. Wins the Presidency of the United States.

@NathanDrakeSwag: no, because his leadership is destroying the country, but if you can’t see that I’m not going to bother explaining shit to you. God knows where America will be with four more years of this man.

What can I say? I followed factual information and verifiable, obtainable data. Those thinking Biden was going to win followed the polls and headlines in their echo chambers and only allowed themselves to hear what they wanted to believe. It looks like Trump will win every single state he won in 2016, flip a couple, and even take the popular vote which he is up in by about 1.25 million.

Trump is not getting 300 EV's with the early numbers I am seeing out of Arizona.

@super600: Dude lol.

No, many of the trackers, including the NYT tracker which is one of the better ones preemptively called a lot of states, both red and blue, based on predictions. For example, Arkansas, Mississippi and Alabama were all awarded to Trump the second polls closed and before a single count was in. They did this in 2016 as well, but had to remove that check mark and give the state to Trump.

@Chutebox:

It still looks bad for trump. Not seeing anything that indicates he has any shot of cracking 300 EV's. I still think its possible he ends up below 200 EV's once all of the votes are counted.

Dude, you are absolutely delusional. This is an absolute landslide in favor of Trump. Who is telling you Biden is winning? Even betting places have Trump placed at over a 70% chance of winning at this point.

But seriously, I want to know what you are reading, and where, because it sounds like a tabloid.

i'm curious how you come to that conclusion. if biden does actually win, he's just going to eek it out.

Some networks are already discussing changing Virginia and awarding it to Trump like they had to do to Pennsylvania in 2016.

@comp_atkins: crossing his fingers

I am asssuming he wins all of the outstanding races which brings him to like 346 EV's. I think there are enough votes out there biden will squeak out wins in NC,IA,OH and possibly GA. Biden will also win PA,MI and WI.

At the current rate, it looks like it'll be close. Way too close for my liking.

I sincerely hope Americans don't disappoint the rest of the world two elections in a row.

Really, you're assuming he wins every other state available? You don't find that rather idealistic and not all that realistic?

@super600:

Agreed. This bigger voter turnout looks like it can change a lot in the next few hours. I for one am very optimistic.

Yes. It's possible.NC and GA both have a chance of voting voting blue. The margins for biden look pretty good in key urban/surburban counties in ohio.

Arizona makes me sick. Come on PA and Mich!

I think the only hope now is waiting for the early ballots to be counted. Not holding my breath though.

ohio, nc, and ga are trump imo. i think ia will ultimately go trump too. too early to count that for biden.

early voting in ohio is fully reported i think.

pa, michigan, wisconsin are still in play due to early voting not all reported yet.

Many of the early ballots were the first one counted. And most the big urban areas in those states are 100% reported, or very close to it with only red counties left to be counted.

@eoten:

At this point, pretty much everything is being called. That just means that we won't really know who actually won what and where until the final votes are counted.

Also, Trump is up in the popular vote by 2.4 million.

eh. that will mostly be obliterated when ca comes online

If you look now, California, Oregon, and Washington were all just called for Biden. Polls closed 1 minute ago, zero counts in so far, so you see, they do that based on predictions, which is why Virginia was called early, but why it'll likely flip.

Electoral College is bullshit. Ohio, Texas and Florida are only hundreds of thousands of votes apart between Trump and Biden. Bullshit to give all the electoral votes to one candidate. This whole "winner takes all" system has got to go.

According to exit polls, union households in Ohio voted Trump 56 - 42

Yeah, maybe the democrats will learn not to nominate a corrupt candidate..after trying to impeach president for corruption.

So you want to disenfranchise the states that keep blue states alive? Sounds smart taking away any voice or recourse the people who grow your food, raise your beef, provide your energy, or manufacture your products to pander to the massive urban centers in CA. The electoral college exists for a reason, because without it, those states break off, and what remains is fucked.

Or incite riots.

Over ten million people voted in Florida, only about half voted for Trump. But Trump will get awarded all 29 electoral votes.

Oh yeah, that totally makes sense and represents the majority will of the people

Democratic candidates didn't incite riots

Big fucking deal. A lot of people vote Trump in states that'll go for Biden. Why does the left constantly try to change the rules so they can win, rather than actually play by the ones that have existed since the beginning. You know if Biden didn't shit all over the energy industry, he may have actually taken a couple states needed to win. The DNC fails on policy that most states do not want. Stop making excuses.

I bet at parties when everyone votes on the pizza topping, you think you get to take the whole pizza if your chosen topping wins

Seems like biden is on track for somewhere between 290 and 346 EV's. Going to have to wait a few days for a call at this point.

Arizona looking like it will go to Biden.

@super600:

It's a hell of a lot higher than Hillary was at this point too.

lol. asking for vote parity is now disenfranchisement?

i thought conservatives were against affirmative action.

@super600: Biden...is on track for 290+?

If Biden changed his name to Donald J Trump, yeah.

It seems to me that my posts about Biden being a weak candidate have come to pass. We are seeing minority voters just not show up for Biden, and turnout is down in these areas in the Sun Belt.

The progressives may have really been right about Biden, win or lose.

Minnesota is going to swing like 10 points to the left if things don't change at this point.

@Chutebox

Yeah. I think he flips the the blue wall states.

Minnesota won't be enough. Biden would have to take Wisconsin, Michigan, and PA. If Trump takes one of them, game over for Biden and he is leading by hundreds of thousands of votes in all of them. Trump is up 14 points in PA, 10 points in Michigan, and 5 in Wisconsin.

That's assuming Biden actually takes Virginia which Trump is still leading in by 2 points. If Trump wins one of those four, there's no way Biden gets to 270.

@super600: Minnesota is always blue.

I hope you recognize that you are citing mostly E-Day totals in those three states. Hundreds of thousands mail in ballots are outstanding in those three states

biden can win if he does take VA, PA and WI and could lost MI and still take it.

if he loses PA, but wins the other 3, he still loses.

this is a much better fight than what hilary put up in 2016