Afghanistan just went from bad to worse for Biden

I looked and I don't see anything in your post. FYI the vast majority of Americans want out of Afghanistan.

13 soldiers dead, 15 injured, 60 afghans dead, hundreds injured. This was the biggest attack going back how long I don't even remember, but maybe you'd have to go back to the bush days, when we were in thick of war to find such casualties.

Is this better to you?

Where was the outrage when Trump released 5000 prisoners?

They should ve killed them and let 1000 people prisoners to the Taliban rot? I bet that would ve made the "mostly peaceful" transition even more "mostly peaceful".

Talking about bending over.

Nowhere, not from the left either. Most news articles mentioning it have been in the past couple weeks.

Where is the lefts outrage that were pulling out of Afghanistan altogether? They were sure angry about our fictitious pullout of the Kurdistan region.

@horgen: Bending over would be an acceptable alternative to you? Could you be more specific?

The release of talib prisoners is undoubtedly part of the or-deal.

He knows. He's lying.

Everything LJS said is true going by multiple fact checkers.

Talking about not negotiation with terrorists yet release 5000 members of a terrorist organisation. Some here are supportive of that decision made by Trump yet talk about genocide.

@horgen: You are saying US troops should stay in the graveyard of empires and fight the Taliban and their allies?

How did you construe that from what he actually said?

Some people infer what they want to believe and ignore the actual content.

@MirkoS77: I didn't construe, i concluded.

I asked several times, no replies. What would ve been the alternative to not releasing the imprisoned taliban?

Why treat Taliban better than your own citizens?

Nymag did an interview with former marine and Congressman Seth Moulton.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/inside-seth-moulton-secret-kabul-trip.html

“The thing that everybody needs to understand, even if you completely agree with the Biden administration’s decision to withdraw, the way they have handled this has been a total f***ing disaster,” said Moulton, who traveled to the country with Representative Peter Meijer, a Republican from Michigan. “It will be measured in bodies, because a lot of people are dying because they can’t get out.”

@horgen: Other options than negotiating exchange of prisoners?

The crux of the matter, the US invaded a country where an attempt to civilize western style was doomed from get go to the end. Every head at the top knows it, everyone knew what was going to happen.

There never was an alternative. Should people be happy its over? The conflict with the Taliban could ve lasted a hundred years with Pakistan giving them support and shelter.

Evacuated the military before evacuating the people, not using airstrikes to assist, absolutely no response to marines being killed, and leaving behind millions, if not billions of dollars in military equipment. Yeah, the way Biden handled it was a complete **** up. Taliban has a lot of M4s, Humvees, and other equipment to kill people with, courtesy of Joe Biden.

You objectively wrote incorrect numbers, the guy who corrected you wrote objectively true numbers.

I have no intention of debating fiction vs facts with you.

For Biden? Don't you mean for the Afghanistan people? Sorry, Biden isn't the President of Afghanistan...

And as far as citizen getting killed over there, can't say I feel sorry for them when they were aware of the dangers of being out there. Hell, many are lucky Biden didn't pull troops support back during the original timeline in May that Trump set up. If they were aware of the deal Trump made with the Taliban during his term, they shouldn't be surprise of this outcome outside of afghan forces just surrendering and handing their country over without a fight...

I will, however, salute our fallen brothers and sisters that had to go back over to that hellhole. I appreciate their service and sacrifice they made for the country and wish their families well. It's unfortunate that people will use their deaths for some form of propaganda...

R.I.P funny man

what a G

I want to know whose idea it was to evacuate troops before citizens. That was idiotic.

Why did we abandon Bagram airbase for a single strip airport in Kabul? So many questions

Or before the weapons and equipment.

Words can mean whatever the person reading them want them to mean through personal interpretation. My grasp of the English language is far beyond that of most, and sometimes I forget that. Intentions and inflections don't always come through all too well to those without a sense of humor, those looking for a fight for the sake of an argument, or those that feel some inane need to be recognized.

That said, temporarily siding with someone to get a rise out of red faced liberals screaming in the mirror is well worth being associated with those that don't put up with their bs even if they aren't the best company or you don't want to hang out after closing hours.

It's all a big party and someone always gets pissed they weren't invited.. lol.

Lighten up man. The world could use it. (I'm not saying this to just you, I'm saying it as an overarching statement as to what's wrong with this world today) Laughter is the best medicine.

Kinda funny seeing the far right here clumsily trying to build a narrative.

Trump is the one who reduced troop strength to 2500 in Afghanistan.

That was the Afghan army and the US will destroy what they can before leaving.

@LJS9502_basic: I dare you to go a few post without mentioning Trump. This is on Biden, until that sinks in none of your post are worth a damn (not that they ever were to start with).

You asked who reduced troop strength and the answer was trump. Why is hard for trumpers to admit reality?

@LJS9502_basic: I didn't ask anything.

Since I responded to someone who clearly asked that question, it's dishonest of you to complain about the correct answer whether you asked or not. The right needs to start paying attention to facts.

@LJS9502_basic: I'd say the left even more so.

I posted a fact, you cried. Seems it's the right.

@WitIsWisdom: Yeah, well the words you agreed to were written to express support for literal genocide.

It's perfectly fine to write, "I didn't know that the user I was agreeing with supports genocide. I assumed it was a joke because who TF supports actual genocide?"

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/28/opinion/afghanistan-biden-evacuation.html

As a Marine, I fought in Iraq and Afghanistan and participated in Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. As a journalist, I covered the war in Syria. Never have I witnessed a greater, swifter collapse of competence than what I have seen with the U.S. evacuation of Afghanistan.

Central to President Biden’s campaign was a promise that the candidate understood, deeply and personally, two essential things: empathy and service. Events in Afghanistan this week indicate this promise was, at worst, false and, at best, limited. Events in Afghanistan illustrate what happens when there is a breakdown in empathy. Events at the airport — desperation, death — indicate the extreme chaos that ensues when the commander in chief doesn’t actually understand the value of service.

An interesting opinion piece in NYT. A lot of weight being put on veteran shoulders, especially in the videos we've seen of people being turned away or children being handed over barbed wire fencing.

The military usually cleans up the messes put in motion by politicians.

I'm not seeing how trump's deal with the Taliban reflects anything in Biden, other than Biden is cleaning up another republican war mess and taking the blame for it as Democrats always do.

It's very bizarre, especially when the Biden administration was very upfront and vocal about "cancellation" of prior administration policies using executive orders, immigration, criminal justice, climate, etc. But apparently the policy in Afghanistan with the Taliban, which itself had stipulations/requirements that the Taliban actively voided, was somehow set in stone. Politicians excel in shifting blame, and what better place to do it then blame another administration for your failures?

The fact that Biden didn't cancel the agreement, FYI the Taliban threatened attacks which means we'd have to send more troops over and it's not popular with Americans to be there, doesn't mitigate that this is Trump's plan. Seems like you're shifting.

lol! I know Trump lives rent free in many minds, and I understand the blame game to hide one's own failures, but we are in August of 2021. This isn't the result of a lame-duck transition.

"Right to a speedy trial" at one time meant just that. What happened?

Oh yeah, bureaucracy. You saddle that horse daily, Officer, what don't you understand?

What a curious buck to sight on, yes, bureaucracy. Big government has plenty of that to go around!

@Stevo_the_gamer: Will you for once admit Trump messed up? Not everything that the current president deals with is his fault. This isnt Bidens fault just like the 2008 crash wasnt Obamas.

Once the play was in action it isn't as easy as snapping fingers to reverse it. We'd begun withdrawing from Afghanistan before Biden even took office.

Exactly, once the agreement was set in motion last year, with stipulations (but again, those don't matter because the agreement cannot be stopped by snapping fingers), there is literally nothing that can be done.

Trump is always living rent-free in so many minds.

@thenation: This kinda shit is embarrassing, you do realize Trump isn't in office right? Biden was in charge of this horribly ill thought out (ok their really wasn't any thinking behind it) pull out. Why can't the left seem to wrap their tiny little mangled minds around this very simple concept?

@vfighter: Why cant the right grasp this plan was put into place by Trump? Easier to pass the buck i guess. Easier to personally attack me for not letting that simple fact be forgotten. Trump messed up, deal with it. Just because he isnt in office doesnt mean the effects of his presidency are suddenly gone.

@stevo_the_gamer: Nice delfection. Will you admit Trump messed up on this agreement? No?