Donald Trump Jr posts emails of Russian offer of material on Clinton: 'I love it'

That's pretty bad, but was found as no wrong doing by the FBI. But at least she wasn't willing to get information by a foreign government (who interfered with our election) to further sway the election in his favor. That's insanely worse.

She was found clear of any wrong doing.

I can play that game too: it doesn't bother you that Jr. only released these emails because of The NYT story? It doesn't bother you that Jared Kushner lied on his security clearance application (a federal crime)? It doesn't bother you that the son of a Presidential candidate is so open and jovial at the thought of receiving sensitive information from a foreign power with the intent to sway an election?

Attempting to change the subject from one specific politician to all politicians in general is the very definition of deflection.

@zaryia: Hillary took multi-million dollar donations from countries like Saudi Arabia.

She also sold a quarter of our uranium supply to the Russians.

Yet most Dems didn't take a big issue with this...for some reason.

No one with an inkling of an understanding of how the American Justice System works can find anything illegal about what Trump Jr did. It's certainly not a good look at first glance, and you could argue that it's unethical, but it sure as hell isn't criminal.

You'll have to ask the FBI and Senate/House Intel. Not the Dems.

Neither of those things are directly linked to a foreign power meddling in our election. Which is clearly quite a bit worse than accepting donations from SA, which is why there are no major criminal investigations. It's fluff. Noise.

Either way, this is deflection. The thread is about Don Beavis Jr. and how it relates to major investigations, not Hillary. She is not president, and she was cleared of all wrong doing. There are no serious pending investigations on her that I know of. If you feel there should be, write to your Senator, don't deflect and try to kill threads with factual bomb shell reports.

I see the m.o. in the right is either deflection or "you're hysterical!!!!". Omfg...

No, he stated in the briefing he didn't believe any lawyer would take the case.

lol please, just stop lying. That isn't how it works at all. Federal prosecutors do what they are told.

@perfect_blue:

This is what Comey really said. It goes to show why no one should ever take a conservative seriously.

"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is information that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information," Comey told reporters in Washington, D.C., noting that the probe has found that the former secretary of state used several different email servers and numerous devices during her time in office.

Even so, Comey added later, “Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before deciding whether to bring charges."

Even if Clinton had wanted to make sure the sale was approved, it wouldn't have been possible for her to do it on her own. CFIUS is made up of not only the Secretary of State, but also the secretaries of Treasury, Justice, Homeland Security, Commerce, Defense, and Energy, as well as the heads of the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and the Office of Science and Technology Policy.

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting members, and CFIUS's work is also observed by representatives of other agencies like the National Security Council and the Office of Management and Budget. The idea that Clinton could have convinced all those officials and all those departments to change their position on the sale, even if she had wanted to, borders on the absurd.

Furthermore, the official who was the State Department's representative on CFIUS at the time, Jose Hernandez, told Time magazine that Clinton did not participate in the evaluation of this deal: "Secretary Clinton never intervened with me on any CFIUS matter," he said.

Business Insider......

1. YOU'RE LINKING INFOWARS. GOOD GOD.

2. Don Jr. Already released the e-mails. This is irrelevant now.

What is it with you and posting awful videos and charts? Christ, go get some critical thinking skills.

How was it a deflection when Trump is a politician himself.. Meaning my statement fell under him as well.. Do you even know what you are talking about?

Re-read my quote. If you're struggling to understand, maybe you can ask your parents can help. Don't know what else to tell you.

I have addressed your post. There's more to the Russian lawyer.

1. The video is from Cernovich Media.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/well-lookie-russian-lawyer-veselnitskaya-pictured-obama-ambassador-russia-8-days-trump-jr-mtg/

More information leaked out today on Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya.

Veselnitskaya told NBC News on Monday she was not with the Kremlin as was reported by The New York Times.

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MORE— That looks like Emin Agalarov sitting next to Natalia Veselnitskaya. He was mentioned in Donald Trump Jr’s statement this morning. Emin helped set up the meeting with Veselnitskaya.

Veselnitskaya was also connected to Fusion GPS, the DNC opposition research firm that produced the fraudulent and discredited Trump Dossier.

Also from http://www.independent.co.uk/News/world/americas/us-politics/trump-jr-russian-lawyer-steele-dossier-natalia-veselnitskaya-gps-fusion-a7834541.html

This week’s revelations about Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with a Russian lawyer have shined a new spotlight on a small Washington opposition research firm that worked with her on a legal case for years and then subsequently commissioned a dossier full of salacious allegations of the Russian government’s attempts to collude with the Trump presidential campaign.

The firm, Fusion GPS, will be one subject of a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing next week that was planned well before the story broke of Trump Jr.’s June 2016 meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. Fusion GPS says it had no involvement in the meeting although it did work on a lawsuit that involved Veselnitskaya for more than two years. The firm’s work on the Trump dossier was on a different timeline. Nevertheless, Trump’s legal team is already conflating the two issues as part of their defense of the president’s son.

Information from Cernovich Media's video is NOT original.

2. Don Jr already stated it was bait and switch.

Exactly. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/us/politics/mike-cernovich-bio-who.html // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Cernovich He was a regular Infowars Host, made Pizzagate a thing, is an extremist conspiracy theoriest, and is in no way a reliable source of citation. Please stop while you are ahead. It's incredibly embarassing. He is a discredited loon. Please use a more reliable sources from the get go in the future, or people will just ignore your gibberish.

Anyways, That lawyer being linked to the DNC doesn't change the implications of those e-mails. "I love it". He was totally fine with and into the premise of receiving sensitive damaging information on Hillary Clinton by the Russian government, according to those e-mails. So were Kushner and Manafort. This is a fact. A foreign power who was trying to meddle with our election. This is a fact.

He changed his story 3 times this week. What he already said is worth absolutely nothing.

Donald Trump Jr. released these e-mails. Not liberals.

I also believe the FBI, Senate/House Intel Committees are not liberals. Feel free to correct me.

What is concerning to me about all of this is the extent of gradualism. All of these revelations are arriving in ever so increasing degrees of implication. Outrage occurs for each, and predictably, nothing comes of it. It makes me wonder if we'd been hit with all of this at once would there not be a greater response taken? Perhaps whatever the investigation brings upon completion will be the sledgehammer that shocks those with the responsibility to take initiative, but I'd be lying if I said I'm not a bit worried that as we gain more information it will lose its value in gradual escalation towards normalization and consequently its collective strength will fail in its ability to bring call and force to action when it is needed the most.

I mean, what gravitas is a case going to hold when we've already heard much of the evidence and done nothing because what was once shocking is now the new normal?

So it turns out this Russian Lawyer is also a double agent for the Clinton Campaign.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump

So let me get this straight, Hillary colluded with Russia in order to frame Trump Jr into colluding with Russia. Only for it to turn out to be a total nothing burger. Good job.

@omnichris:

How the hell does anyone twist that into Hillary!?

LOL

What is going on is the media's response to Trump's anti-mainstream media agenda.

So sit down, get the popcorn, because we are not even close to the end of all this, any liberal reporter will work double time to dig up anything and report it like they found the next watergate.

Problem is that the core republicans are still republicans and the ones who secured Trump´s win, is still tired of the democratic party and in the end probably will turn away from the democrats because of this.

Oh for fucks sake......do you even read your links? Because if so then your agenda must be to make yourself look like a fool.

Do you read yours?

Strike a nerve did I? How about stop being a partisan hack? Are you suggesting you are ok with liars as long its on your side?

LOL pot meet kettle.

@n64dd: Why would that be suspicious at all? lol

Except I acknowledged and agreed that Trump is a liar and corrupt.. Please try harder LJ.

Yeah when called out on your bias....much like DT JR only when confronted. You spend a lot of time here defending him and bashing the left so I think we'll let your posts do the talking.......please try harder Sub.

This is what I was going to post. Subzero touts the "both sides are the same!" nonsense but spends all his posts frothing at the mouth and angrily attacking liberals and Clinton supporters. It's incredible he sticks with the act despite it being hilariously easy to see through. All or nothing Bernie drones like him are worse than the people he crusades against.

Yeah it had nothing to do with the fact that the establishment put the most corrupt candidate in the race who lost to a candidate like Trump.... And which is it guys? Am I a extreme right winger or a Bernie Bro now.. You can never seem to decide. ..

Please tell me what I am suppose to convey then? Shock, of one of the most corrupt elections of all time. Whats going to happen now? Trump get impeached? What then? Republicans are still going to be in power after the complete ass whooping Democrats received.. What's your end game plan for actually wanting change?

@zaryia: They are on a whitch hunt that will go nowhere. And yes multiple people on the senate committee are liberals.

Whats funny is people like you who are so focused on every conspiracy theory. You have 3.5 years of it left deal with it and move on already.

What? Why would you being unable to comprehend simple things "strike a nerve" with me? Not my fault or my problem.

1. It's not a witch hunt. The FBI doesn't think so. The special prosecutor doesn't think so. The house/senate committee's don't think. The future FBI director doesn't think so. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/12/fbi-christopher-wray-senate-confirmation-hearing-trump-russia. There is too much factual evidence to further investigate to call this a witch hunt. Common sense implies that multi bi-partisan organizations investigating factual events =/= witch hunts.

Sorry if I trust the word of those parties over Breitbart, Fox, and Infowars blogs/opinion-pieces.

2. The senate and house committee's also have multiple Republicans. These are bipartisan efforts. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN1702UI

3. The FBI is not a liberal organization.

4. Conspiracy theory? What conspiracy theory am I focused on? I never said Trump colluded for certain, but I fully support this proper investigation to find out all there is to know, who wouldn't?. Why does everything have to be red vs blue to you wingnuts? It IS an on going investigation by major parties. When new information gets released, such as Don Jr's e-mails, expect it to make headlines and become a major point of investigation to the above agencies. It's as simple as that. REPUBLICAN senator asks Don Jr. to testify at the senate panel: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/341857-senate-panel-asking-trump-jr-to-testify-report

You are spewing fake news and/or opinions that can not be backed up by links or facts. I think it's time for you to deal with reality, and move on from these information dump threads - instead of stinking them up.

Just read on TheHill today that this is all a witch hunt and it was actually Hillary and the DNC that colluded with Russia. OMFG LOL.

I bet 20 monopoly dollars that this entire story will actually amount to nothing against Trump or his family, and instead cause investigations into the previous administration.

Does not matter if it's right or wrong, real or false. I just see it happening.

My last posting was about the Trump administration going dirty with bait/lure tactics, and right now Trump Jr. can actually play the role of the media and Obama being the deplorable Trump?

Regardless of which side you stand on the fence, this is golden.

@CreasianDevaili: That's whats so hilarious about all of this.

The left and RINO republicans like McCain keep digging trying to bury Trump...and it only leads to them fucking themselves...repeatedly.

Yeah no. Email to/from Trump Jr will NOT lead to an investigation to former administration. Reality is calling for you.......

This is going to backfire hard on the dems.

The Russian lawyer who penetrated Donald Trump’s inner circle was initially cleared into the United States by the Justice Department under “extraordinary circumstances” before she embarked on a lobbying campaign last year that ensnared the president’s eldest son, members of Congress, journalists and State Department officials, according to court and Justice Department documents and interviews.

This revelation means it was the Obama Justice Department that enabled the newest and most intriguing figure in the Russia-Trump investigation to enter the country without a visa.

Linky

Her Fb is also full of anti Trump propaganda.

Sooooo another nothing burger that backfires?

@speedfog: Unless she was a felon there isn't much reason to deny admittance.

So from what I am reading, the guy who the son of Trump colluded with was practically just a fraud.

Wasnt there information on how Hillary got help from Ukrainians in the election?

Anything about Hillary at this point is pure nonsense and deflection.

If you're referring to Agalarov, the billionaire real estate mogul with deep ties to Putin, no, he is not a fraud. He's the one who partnered with Trump to build a Trump tower in Moscow, until Obama signed sanctions nearly crippling the Russian economy. He's the guy who met with Russia's top law enforcement official, Yuri Chaika to pass Kremlin information on Clinton to the Trumps. We also know for a fact that Vasalneyskaya is lobbying on behalf of Putin to end the Magnitsky Act, as it affects some of his most loyal oligarchs.

It's curious that these people chose to approach the Trump campaign about these things, as if they knew he would win the election, considering that he had only won his party's nomination two weeks earlier...

At this point, anyone denying this stuff is in la la land, bigly.

@tjandmia: No, everything related to Hillary is not nonsense.

Especially since the left wants to keep railing on about how terrible Trump is. Well...your alternative was Hillary.

Of course she's going to be brought up

The very epitome of the big government, bought and paid for politician. A woman with a past as black and shady as the night itself.

A woman who acts as if it's her god given right to be President.

And seeing as how the left can't quit tripping over their own feet, I wouldn't put it past them to run with her, yet again, in 2020...and once again she'll get the shit smacked out of her and Dems will be calling everyone who voted for Trump a "racist", "misogynist", etc...just further demonstrating that they learned absolutely nothing as to why Trump was elected in the first place.

Hillary is unemployed and has nothing to do with government. She would have been an honorable, good president, but you chose a Russian puppet instead. Trying to deflect to what you see as her faults when comrade Trumpski gets caught red-handed in a lie is weak and lame desperation.

And don't forget that 3 million more Americans wanted her.

Hilary is not president. /discussion.

The reason I brought Hillary up is because if anything it seems the democratic establishment is deflecting now. President or not, Hillary may be guilty of a crime.

This doesnt mean Trump isn't guilty. But looking at this more and more, it seems the story is more hype than substance (not much unlike a PS4 exclusive). All in all, I want confirmation on the sincerity of this before I buy into it.