You're still engaging. I thought you went all snowflake and said you were done. Dismiss is a negative connotation of arrogance. You replied to my answer that I would be pleasant and decent to someone with differing beliefs offering a nice gesture that means something to them. I don't know why you have to be so ignorant but it is what it is. I don't "dismiss" people trying to be nice.
Also I'm bored and he was unpleasant.
well regardless of what 'dismissive' means here is what I meant by using the word
'I am polite, I say thank you, I leave as soon as its polite to do so because I really do not want to be a part of it'
you find that 'militant'?
you dont find someone feeling that doing such a thing is insulting is not being a 'snowflake'?
seriously?
I think the fact that you responded to my post about being pleasant is being a snowflake.
You're still engaging. I thought you went all snowflake and said you were done. Dismiss is a negative connotation of arrogance. You replied to my answer that I would be pleasant and decent to someone with differing beliefs offering a nice gesture that means something to them. I don't know why you have to be so ignorant but it is what it is. I don't "dismiss" people trying to be nice.
Also I'm bored and he was unpleasant.
well regardless of what 'dismissive' means here is what I meant by using the word
'I am polite, I say thank you, I leave as soon as its polite to do so because I really do not want to be a part of it'
you find that 'militant'?
you dont find someone feeling that doing such a thing is insulting is not being a 'snowflake'?
seriously?
I think the fact that you responded to my post about being pleasant is being a snowflake.
ok
but can you PLEASE answer my two questions
do you find it 'militant' if I do the following: 'I am polite, I say thank you, I leave as soon as its polite to do so because I really do not want to be a part of it'
I think the fact that you responded to my post about being pleasant is being a snowflake.
ok
but can you PLEASE answer my two questions
do you find it 'militant' if I do the following: 'I am polite, I say thank you, I leave as soon as its polite to do so because I really do not want to be a part of it'
A part of what? Most times the greeting is all that happens. They aren't trying to convert you. Also Christmas has become a secular holiday as well so I'm not sure why you get dismissive having someone in effect say have a nice holiday.......ie Christmas in particular. Nonetheless militant atheists have an agenda to run beliefs down they don't share. I have met many a decent atheist that doesn't spend time arguing against religious beliefs and respecting the fact that other people have different belief systems. Now if you weren't trying to jump on someone's belief system that's fine. But you worded it awkwardly.
Even after what I said above... When some one says happy holiday, or Merry Christmas, I just say "thanks, you too." This is the case about 90% of the time.
By large, most religious people do not mean "merry Christmas" in a malicious nature. At worst most are just being presumptuous. But there are exceptions, most of which none of us will have to deal with personally/directly.
I think the fact that you responded to my post about being pleasant is being a snowflake.
ok
but can you PLEASE answer my two questions
do you find it 'militant' if I do the following: 'I am polite, I say thank you, I leave as soon as its polite to do so because I really do not want to be a part of it'
A part of what? Most times the greeting is all that happens. They aren't trying to convert you. Also Christmas has become a secular holiday as well so I'm not sure why you get dismissive having someone in effect say have a nice holiday.......ie Christmas in particular. Nonetheless militant atheists have an agenda to run beliefs down they don't share. I have met many a decent atheist that doesn't spend time arguing against religious beliefs and respecting the fact that other people have different belief systems. Now if you weren't trying to jump on someone's belief system that's fine. But you worded it awkwardly.
that doesnt answer my question,
please answer my question directly, in as few words as possible.
dont be shy if you answer is yes that you do find if militant if a person is simply polite but really not interested because they are atheist.
by the way, I have had christians get very upset with me because I answer the question of 'are you going to visit your family' with 'no I do not plan to do so'
@LJS9502_basic: Goddamn you just presume a great deal. What I said was not BS. I'm no Trump supporter. Since you want to keep misunderstanding my posts, inject grand assumptions, and disregard religions core involvement of most of the economies of the past. You would just be wasting my time. At this point, just converse with someone else. Happy Holidays.
Don't bother replying, and I won't to you. I politely ask you to move on.
@LJS9502_basic: Christianity didn't invent slavery. It used it as a mechanism to enslave black people in the US. Reading history books other than those written in Texas, and books about socioeconomics (including slavery) will tell you that religion has largely been the mechanism to enslave a people.
Militant is not dismissing irrational beliefs, those that demand others to respect their irrational beliefs are the ones being militant.
But I am done, good day sir.
so this conversation with an atheist is 'militant' in your mind\
Christian: 'hey merry Christmas'
Atheist: 'ah thanks' (really not interested but says nothing)
Christian: 'are you going to visit your family over the holidays?'
Atheist: 'No I will do that some other time'
Christian (with raised voice): 'good god why you really should be with your family over Christmas'
Atheist: 'well it is what it is' poltielty walks out of the room
that is the ATHESIT being 'militant'?
what the actual?
'dismissive' means 'being polite as to not offend anyway but really not intrested'
It's not, but I do think you're a bit of an inconsiderate ass if you say merry christmas to someone that you know doesn't celebrate christmas.
Why? If someone wished me Happy Hanukah I'd respond in kind and not get bent out of shape over it. That's just looking to be offended.
I'm not saying it's a huge deal, I just think it's good manners not to do it.
I think he is saying that this exchange is unacceptable and insulting
Person 1: 'happy Hanukah'
Person 2: 'thanks'
person 2 MUST say the same in return or else person 1 will be insulted. I consider that snowflakism.
So an atheist needs to carefully consider what he says so as to not offend when a relgious person comes to them and says something to them
Well I mean if someone wishes you a happy holiday I actually do think it's a bit rude to only reply with "thanks." If you don't want to say happy Hanukah back you could just wish them happy holidays.
Merry Christmas everyone. Remember to talk about politics at the dinner table tonight.
should I mention that jesus was not a nationalist and as a result so called 'minorities' are not the minority and many of them are christian as well. I also might bring up how the Christmas tree is a pagan symbol and how the SJW snowflakes and the right are outraged that their sexual identity appears to be under attack by cookies?
Well, if you believe in the Trinity, and believe Jesus is the Son of the Creator, nationalism would be a little myopic, in his case.
As for the gay cookies, you know it's the same dude as last time, right? It doesn't make a very good case, when there is only one baker in Colorado who wont do custom cakes for LGBT people. He's either excellent at his craft, or the culture war is so stagnant that people are starting to re-enact the battles, civil war style.
Merry Christmas everyone. Remember to talk about politics at the dinner table tonight.
should I mention that jesus was not a nationalist and as a result so called 'minorities' are not the minority and many of them are christian as well. I also might bring up how the Christmas tree is a pagan symbol and how the SJW snowflakes and the right are outraged that their sexual identity appears to be under attack by cookies?
Well, if you believe in the Trinity, and believe Jesus is the Son of the Creator, nationalism would be a little myopic, in his case.
As for the gay cookies, you know it's the same dude as last time, right? It doesn't make a very good case, when there is only one baker in Colorado who wont do custom cakes for LGBT people. He's either excellent at his craft, or the culture war is so stagnant that people are starting to re-enact the battles, civil war style.
Jesus was not a nationalist. In fact he was against empire
No it's not, but I do enjoy seeing cashiers almost blurt it out then go "Have a m---nice day" like they were actually told not to say it when in fact society has simply made them too scared to say it. So sad. No one really cares, it's just an idea made up to spook people, like the bogeyman.
No it's not, but I do enjoy seeing cashiers almost blurt it out then go "Have a m---nice day" like they were actually told not to say it when in fact society has simply made them too scared to say it. So sad. No one really cares, it's just an idea made up to spook people, like the bogeyman.
Honestly if this is a big deal to you, GTFO.
thats about right. I have seen that a few times myself.
ok we get it, you like christmas, now give me my Doritos I have a game to get back to and a devil to worship
I had to explain to someone for a while. On why I didnt find Merry Christmas offensive, even though I don't celebrate it.
I dont find it offensive, I DO however find it offensive that I am supposed to be grateful that a person tells me that and I cant be politely dismissive about the gesture.
If a person comes to me and says merry christmas they will have to settle with me saying 'thanks' and politely leaving the conversation
I had to explain to someone for a while. On why I didnt find Merry Christmas offensive, even though I don't celebrate it.
I dont find it offensive, I DO however find it offensive that I am supposed to be grateful that a person tells me that and I cant be politely dismissive about the gesture.
If a person comes to me and says merry christmas they will have to settle with me saying 'thanks' and politely leaving the conversation
So you don't reciprocate. As I suspected. Thanks for the info.
I had to explain to someone for a while. On why I didnt find Merry Christmas offensive, even though I don't celebrate it.
I dont find it offensive, I DO however find it offensive that I am supposed to be grateful that a person tells me that and I cant be politely dismissive about the gesture.
If a person comes to me and says merry christmas they will have to settle with me saying 'thanks' and politely leaving the conversation
So you don't reciprocate. As I suspected. Thanks for the info.
I only said it about a thousand times to you directly in the question you refuse to answer.
So you don't reciprocate. As I suspected. Thanks for the info.
I only said it about a thousand times to you directly in the question you refuse to answer.
No you never said that. If someone says have a nice day are you rude then as well and say thanks and not reciprocate?
here is one of about three examples of what I said that you read
think he is saying that this exchange is unacceptable and insulting
Person 1: 'happy Hanukah'
Person 2: 'thanks'
person 2 MUST say the same in return or else person 1 will be insulted. I consider that snowflakism.
So an atheist needs to carefully consider what he says so as to not offend when a relgious person comes to them and says something to them
HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE:
so this conversation with an atheist is 'militant' in your mind\
Christian: 'hey merry Christmas'
Atheist: 'ah thanks' (really not interested but says nothing)
Christian: 'are you going to visit your family over the holidays?'
Atheist: 'No I will do that some other time'
Christian (with raised voice): 'good god why you really should be with your family over Christmas'
Atheist: 'well it is what it is' poltielty walks out of the room
that is the ATHESIT being 'militant'?
what the actual?
'dismissive' means 'being polite as to not offend anyway but really not intrested'
is that really 'militant'?
HERE IS A 3RD EXAMPLE:
but can you PLEASE answer my two questions
do you find it 'militant' if I do the following: 'I am polite, I say thank you, I leave as soon as its polite to do so because I really do not want to be a part of it'
@tryit: You didn't answer the question..........you hedged around it. Are you rude to someone that says have a nice day?
first off the statement of 'merry Christmas' is an assertion NOT a question.
second off..YOU STILL have not answered my question despite me asking it at least 3 times and posting it as a reminder here again showing that I said something 3 TIMES that you claim I did not say
@tryit: You didn't answer the question..........you hedged around it. Are you rude to someone that says have a nice day?
first off the statement of 'merry Christmas' is an assertion NOT a question.
second off..YOU STILL have not answered my question despite me asking it at least 3 times and posting it as a reminder here again showing that I said something 3 TIMES that you claim I did not say
your done
Ah you're dishonest as well. I asked you if how you would respond to have a nice day. Noting to do with Christmas. So you're trolling.
I never posted anywhere that you said something you didn't say. I said you were unpleasant for taking offense to a wish that you have a good day.
@tryit: You didn't answer the question..........you hedged around it. Are you rude to someone that says have a nice day?
first off the statement of 'merry Christmas' is an assertion NOT a question.
second off..YOU STILL have not answered my question despite me asking it at least 3 times and posting it as a reminder here again showing that I said something 3 TIMES that you claim I did not say
your done
Ah you're dishonest as well. I asked you if how you would respond to have a nice day. Noting to do with Christmas. So you're trolling.
I never posted anywhere that you said something you didn't say. I said you were unpleasant for taking offense to a wish that you have a good day.
I asked you a question more than 3 times, you refuse to answer the question and then on top of it made a claim that I never said something of which was in my question I asked more than 3 times.
we are done.
if someone ASKS me 'are you going to have a merry christmas' I will answer. the assertion 'merry Christmas' iS NOT A QUESTION
for someone hell bent on being offended by a person not answering a question YOU HAVENT ANSWERED MY QUESTION
if everyone can be reasonably civil might I start a new thread in Off-Topic asking the question of what is considered 'militant' and 'polite' when it comes to the topic of someone telling you 'Happy hanukkah' because I have been saying 'thank you' for years and I had no idea people find that offensive.
Oh, come on. Don't stop them. This is entertaining. I can't think of any two posters on this board that deserve each other more. I almost feel guilty for not having to buy a ticket to watch their little slap fest.
I'm a minority and I prefer to say Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukah. Happy Holidays is too politically correct.
I was once at a store and the white cashier was saying Merry Christmas to all the white people, but when it was my turn she didn't say Merry Christmas. In that moment I knew Democrats, leftists & liberals were dividing me from my fellow Americans with their BS identity politics and I don't want that. She probably was taught to treat me different from my fellow Americans just because of my skin color, because she was brainwashed by racist liberals, leftists & Democrats. I told her Merry Christmas with a warm smile and she smiled and said Merry Christmas, she was so happy and a little surprised.
Until all white people say Merry Christmas to me in public, literally bombard me with Merry Christmas, I can't vote Democrat ever again. I'm middle eastern. Until all white people say Merry Christmas to me without FEAR of offending me. I'm voting Trump until I'm bombarded in the streets by Merry Christmas over & over & over again. I never ever want to hear HAPPY HOLIDAYS, F political correctness.
Does fear drive you to say Happy Holidays? Fear of offending me? Think about this for a good ten minutes.
You're pre-judging me based upon my skin color. Martin Luther King said not to do that. If you see that I'm middle eastern, you might say happy holidays as to not offend me, because you think I'm Muslim (I condemn Islam, that religion destroyed my country of origin). In that moment you are showing FEAR & WEAKNESS, you're afraid to share your Christmas culture with me, why? Why are you dividing yourself from me? Don't be afraid to offend someone just because you love Christmas.
My advice, don't be afraid to share Christmas with me. I welcome Christmas with love & open arms. I want you to live in a society where you can share your traditions with me. I want Jewish people to openly say Happy Hanakuh to me. I want Christians to openly say Merry Christmas to me and not worry about offending me.
Please try to understand what I'm telling you, thanks!
Saying Happy Holidays is a form of segregation where the divider is "fear of offending me". If fear drives you to say Happy holidays, that's wrong. You should be able to share your traditions with me openly and I should be open minded enough to embrace your different tradition. Welcome to right wing thinking.
Still, if you're saying Happy Holidays to rebel against me, that in itself is anti-authoritarian. I highly respect that because I despise authoritarianism.
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