Leaked Supreme Court opinion shows conservative majority set to overturn Roe v Wade

Since you didn't link any studies to country wide bans like we were talking about, i'll consider that an L since the other ones are are arguing a point that I never made.

BRO.

Yeah it's 23 weeks because they're too small for machines to keep them alive. Our definition is surviving outside of the womb? My child wouldn't survive with me at all and he's almost 3. Little kids are suicide machines. (oh look an electrical socket).

@LJS9502_basic: I think there should be more focus on adoption. It seem like people just assume that if we take away abortion people that don't want a child will be forced to be a parent for the rest of their lives, but there are other options.

And the aspect Eoten brought up of accountability, I agree people should take responsibility for their actions but if they are unfit to be parents you are doing more harm to the child than the parent (regarding raising the child themselves over adoption, not regarding abortion which is obviously more harmful to the baby).

This ruling would result in no country wide bans, that's a straw-man.

Unknown, even though I agree it's unlikely.

You do understand there is a very long waiting list to adopt children, don't you?

So that's your plan? What are you doing about feeding the children etc.

@LJS9502_basic: I've always been fascinated by this argument. That because a child may come up with bad parenting/lack of resources they are better off being killed.

What a simplistic understanding of what I'm asking him. I want to know his plans for making sure the children are cared for when the GOP denies programs that help.

@LJS9502_basic: I think it's a reasonable understanding. You think the poor are better off killing their offspring.

It's not. It is, however, a straw man.

That's their adopted parent's responsibility, don't you think?

So you have no plan just assuming all children will be quickly adopted. Got it. Exactly what I thought. Also doesn't mean the children are put up for adoption.

Why do you keep referring to fetuses as a child? 98.7% of abortions occur before 20 weeks. The fetus is nowhere near being a child.

It's weird that anyone would even want to attempt to raise a child with bad parents and a lack of resources. These are the same people everyone says shouldn't procreate in the first place.

@tjandmia: what do you think fetuses turn into? tamagotchis???

That's the argument, that if the fetus does not have resources and a stable household they should be killed before having to be poor

Well, that's the point. They're not babies. They MAY become a baby. No abortion has ever killed a baby. It's not possible.

His translation is essentially 'get f*cked' to children born into poverty. LOL Sooooooo pro-life of him.

I love how "being pregnant" is still such a mystery.

Abortion bans don't work. So these non-babies the size of grapes still end up "dying" even with these nonsensical 3rd world laws.

You do realize there's a long list of people waiting to adopt, don't you? Lmfao, do you even do any research, even a little bit? Of course you don't. ROFLMAO

@eoten: As long as those children are white, come from healthy parents and there's no history of addiction they should be ok. If not they can always live happy lives in the children's warehouse.

You do realise there's no shortage of children to be adopted right now, and that has nothing to do with the existence of waiting lists? You're a meme dude, your existence must be depressing AF, Jesus. Just pathetic.

Stop with that collective mentality of wanting government to control individuals!

There is a shortage of children waiting to be adopted, especially newborns. Most people in the foster care system are not adoptable for legal reasons. You may want to do even a little bit of research on the matter before you open your ass and talk out of it.

@eoten: Your illiteracy is as tragic as it is funny. Like I've said, as long as they are white, come from healthy mothers and there's no history of addiction... Maybe if you stop saying stupid shit you wouldn't be a meme? It's bizarre.

Stop being a statist pushing collectivist ideals. 🤣

Is that the best you can do? Insults and racist accusations? The only one here saying stupid shit is not me. You've lost.

@eoten: Stating the fact that you have poor reading skills isn't an insult. You're reading comprehension is bellow that of a non native 12yo, I have to make fun of you if you're going to reply to me showing that you can't even understand what you are replying too. I'm sorry, it's impossible! I do try, but from all the (many) people around here I disagree with, you are the only hilarious one, to the point I often wonder if you are a poorly trained AI someone is having fun with.

Now, to pile on the amount of stupid stuff you've already said you tell me that I'm making "racist accusations"? Damn dude, you see, it's moments like this I wonder if you are a cool bot. What was it? Was the word "white" that triggered the racistScript?

Oh look, no facts, just more insults. I guess when your only argument is to scream "racism" there's not much more you can do. Eventually, it's what your type always devolve towards when they lose.

Whenever I post facts in any abortion thread (you still have not refuted all my studies, meaning you took an L here), any covid thread, any climate change thread, any 2020 election thread, any southern strategy thread, etc. you essentially just respond with "nuh uh".

I think people just gave up at this point.

You have no one to blame but yourself for this one.

People have repeatedly shown you academic sources, and you respond by nuh uh. Maybe find some YouTube yes-man to back you up. Or reject our sources because they are MSM or go on a tantrum against peer reviewed sources. I don't blame you for stopping to use academic sources though, the few times you tried, you ended up using a source that refuted your own opinion if you looked past the lines you cherry picked.

They are correct on your reading comprehension skills though, you and a certain other poster (whom I wont name) have both a terrible ability to comprehend what their opponents are saying. Both of you would fail english class for 8th grade in non-native english speaking countries.

You got no real principles and solutoins, and will just in bad faith disagree with anything anyone on the so called left says. Which is why it is so funny when you either defend an explicit far left politician or a socialism. And because of your contrarian nature, it is very easy to get you to do so.

Your constant bad faith is why everyone has given up on you. At least with other right wingers I can see they seem to hold some degree of principles and epistemology.

https://www.newsweek.com/lauren-boebert-abortion-escort-claims-explained-muckrakers-1715956

American Muckrakers PAC claims Boebert worked as an unlicensed paid escort and met clients through a website called SugarDaddyMeet.com.

"According to our investigation, Boebert was hired by a wealthy male client in Aspen, Colorado, who was a Koch family member. Boebert's rich client subsequently introduced her to U.S. Senator [Ted] Cruz to run for political office," a press release from the PAC read.

The group also accused Boebert of taking at least $136,250 from Senator Cruz for her campaign for Congress announced in 2019, and failing to disclose a $70,500 donation noted in Cruz's Federal Election Commission filings.

The PAC said Boebert has had two abortions, one of which was at Planned Parenthood—a claim that, if true, would contrast with Boebert's proclaimed strong opposition to abortion rights.

"Boebert had an abortion at a clinic in Grand Junction, Colorado, sometime in 2004 or 2005 when she was approximately eighteen years old. It is not known whether this abortion was related to SugarDaddyMeet.com clients or someone else," said the PAC.

"Then Boebert, twenty-three at the time, had an abortion in 2009 at the Planned Parenthood Clinic in Glenwood Springs, Colorado, 'due to her work with a SugarDaddyMeet.com client.'"

In 2021 Boebert pushed a bill to block funding to Planned Parenthood, as well as other health centers providing abortions. In the same year, she notoriously told Planned Parenthood "to go fund yourself." On her website, Boebert prides herself in supporting "overturning Roe v. Wade and restoring the sanctity of life to the law."

Wait, what? WHAT!? That's too good to be true, but god damn it certainly is easy to believe.

She is disorderly, combative, and a born-again Christian. I'm no shrink but the psychology certainly seems to line up.

In either case, I don't object to a former prostitute running for political office, I object to the hypocrisy.

Again, I need proof before I believe this...but funny, none the less.

*Hahaha her response was "y'all need jesus".

Anyway, nice to see Democrats jumping on the mud-slinging conspiracy wagon. Gotta fight fire with fire, right?

Feel the same. Prostitution and abortion should be legal. It's the hypocrisy.

Seems like barely any news outlets are covering this. I don't think that makes it less legitimate, it just signifies the double standard with covering Republican dirt. If it was AOC, the conservative media would be all over it.

@warm_gun: yeah, the coverage is interesting. Seems like a lot of folks feel the way I do (need proof).

Curious if the rumor is enough to cause her support to drop.

You're connecting dots you want to be connected, not because they actually go together. Accusing a woman of being a whore, without any actual evidence, because she opposes your viewpoint on something is rather fucked up. Believing it because you want it to be true is no better.

I lol'd because I just saw him accuse a poster of believing Boebert a whore, when the person specifically said he doesn't necessarily believe the accusations. He makes up shit in his head and attacks others on it. ha ha

You don't read so well, do you?

Yeah, sure. Its in black and white above. Everyone can read it. Quick. Go edit it. ha ha

There's no point in that anymore ITT. When someone posts facts you lie and say "opinion piece". I deleted you a dozen or so pages ago with 5+ abortion studies that you could not refute. At this point in the thread you're just a beaten corpse.

Who cares what you think.