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#1  Edited By tjandmia
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The reason? Insufficient user moderation. Way too many crazies posting dangerous nonsense that isn't moderated by whomever the hell moderates that disaster of a service.

Android users are no longer able to download the app from the play store. Good job, Google. Will Apple be next? Hopefully.

I can't blame Google for not wanting to be part of that disgusting right wing propaganda. I'm sure we'll hear the same old and tired "1st amendment", free speech arguments from those who don't actually understand the 1st amendment. 🤣

https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/01/google-blocks-truth-social-from-the-play-store-will-apple-be-next/amp/

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Not going to matter when it goes offline from not paying their bills, hopefully they proactively take the same consideration when the next right wing Twitter proxy emerges.

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#4  Edited By Planeforger
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It would have died either way, since Trump isn't paying the hosting company and its user base is dropping.

So what's next - will Donny set up TotallyFactualNewsSpace?

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Don't like Twitters rules?

Just go make your own platform....

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It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

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@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

lmao. I knew the people who have no idea what free speech is would make the free speech argument. ha ha.

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#9  Edited By Silentchief
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@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

lmao. I knew the people who have no idea what free speech is would make the free speech argument. ha ha.

I know exactly what free speech is. To see how insane the left has got look to Canda and the UK. You can go to jail for offensive post.

In the US you have corporate overlords telling you what's suitable and what's not. It's an absolute clown show.

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@silentchief said:
@tjandmia said:

lmao. I knew the people who have no idea what free speech is would make the free speech argument. ha ha.

I know exactly what free speech is. To see how insane the left has got look to Canda and the UK. You can go to jail for offensive post.

In the US you have corporate overlords telling you what's suitable and what's not. It's an absolute clown show.

Yes our corporate overlords have made sure that we can't post things like "Let's violently overthrow the government," or "let's go shoot up the FBI." I bet they're twirling their mustaches over champagne as we speak!

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@Vaasman said:
@silentchief said:
@tjandmia said:

lmao. I knew the people who have no idea what free speech is would make the free speech argument. ha ha.

I know exactly what free speech is. To see how insane the left has got look to Canda and the UK. You can go to jail for offensive post.

In the US you have corporate overlords telling you what's suitable and what's not. It's an absolute clown show.

Yes our corporate overlords have made sure that we can't post things like "Let's violently overthrow the government," or "let's go shoot up the FBI." I bet they're twirling their mustaches over champagne as we speak!

Yet they were all for donating billions of dollars to an organization that wanted to murder police and completely defund them. I guess it just depends who puts the message out there. 🤔

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#12  Edited By Vaasman
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@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Yes our corporate overlords have made sure that we can't post things like "Let's violently overthrow the government," or "let's go shoot up the FBI." I bet they're twirling their mustaches over champagne as we speak!

Yet they were all for donating billions of dollars to an organization that wanted to murder police and completely defund them. I guess it just depends who puts the message out there. 🤔

Nice work shitposting vague whataboutism, yet again. Not biting.

Please explain why Truth Social should be allowed to continue with unmoderated violent content and still be supported as an app.

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@girlusocrazy: on a scale of 1-10 how much do you LOVE Google xoxoxooxo

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#14  Edited By Silentchief
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@Vaasman said:
@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Yes our corporate overlords have made sure that we can't post things like "Let's violently overthrow the government," or "let's go shoot up the FBI." I bet they're twirling their mustaches over champagne as we speak!

Yet they were all for donating billions of dollars to an organization that wanted to murder police and completely defund them. I guess it just depends who puts the message out there. 🤔

Nice work shitposting vague whataboutism, yet again. Not biting.

Please explain why Truth Social should be allowed to continue with unmoderated violent content and still be supported as an app.

You can dodge the trurh all you want. The reality is they didn't give a shit about extremist when they had left wing viewpoints.

The moderation is done by those who run the platform. All Google had to do was allow it on their app store. They wouldn't be liable for anything that occured on the app. It's nothing more then virtue signaling.

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@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Nice work shitposting vague whataboutism, yet again. Not biting.

Please explain why Truth Social should be allowed to continue with unmoderated violent content and still be supported as an app.

You can dodge the question all you want. The reality is they didn't give a shit about extremist when they had left wing viewpoints.

The moderation is done by those who run the platform. All Google had to do was allow it on their app store. They wouldn't be liable for anything that occured on the app. It's nothing more then virtue signaling.

Didn't dodge, I refused to engage. No tears now!

And that's definitely not how it works. In the strictest legal sense they may not be liable but allowing extremists easy access on your platform to corroborate on violent rhetoric is bad business.

A theater can't be legally held responsible if someone yells "fire!" Only the individual. But if your theater becomes a hotbed for randos who love yelling "fire!" and you don't do anything to stop it, you're probably going to lose a lot of honest theatergoers.

Or to put it another way, maybe if one does not want to be ostracized, maybe one should stop telling people you're going to violently kill them and their country, the place that they live.

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@Vaasman said:
@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Nice work shitposting vague whataboutism, yet again. Not biting.

Please explain why Truth Social should be allowed to continue with unmoderated violent content and still be supported as an app.

You can dodge the question all you want. The reality is they didn't give a shit about extremist when they had left wing viewpoints.

The moderation is done by those who run the platform. All Google had to do was allow it on their app store. They wouldn't be liable for anything that occured on the app. It's nothing more then virtue signaling.

Didn't dodge, I refused to engage. No tears now!

And that's definitely not how it works. In the strictest legal sense they may not be liable but allowing extremists easy access on your platform to corroborate on violent rhetoric is bad business.

A theater can't be legally held responsible if someone yells "fire!" Only the individual. But if your theater becomes a hotbed for randos who love yelling "fire!" and you don't do anything to stop it, you're probably going to lose a lot of honest theatergoers.

Or to put it another way, maybe if one does not want to be ostracized, maybe one should stop telling people you're going to violently kill them and their country, the place that they live.

That's a shit analogy. You honestly think Google is going to lose a noticeable amount of customers because they allow you to download an offensive app 🤣🤣🤣.?

If you don't like it don't download it. It would have 0 impact on the rest of the platform. Google isn't the theater in your analogy it would be the app itself. Truth Social is the theater Google is more like the state the theater is in. If the app sucks and becomes a shitshow let it collapse. But at least give it a chance.

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#17  Edited By Vaasman
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@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Didn't dodge, I refused to engage. No tears now!

And that's definitely not how it works. In the strictest legal sense they may not be liable but allowing extremists easy access on your platform to corroborate on violent rhetoric is bad business.

A theater can't be legally held responsible if someone yells "fire!" Only the individual. But if your theater becomes a hotbed for randos who love yelling "fire!" and you don't do anything to stop it, you're probably going to lose a lot of honest theatergoers.

Or to put it another way, maybe if one does not want to be ostracized, maybe one should stop telling people you're going to violently kill them and their country, the place that they live.

That's a shit analogy. You honestly think Google is going to lose a noticeable amount of customers because they allow you to download an offensive app 🤣🤣🤣.?

If you don't like it don't download it. It would have 0 impact on the rest of the platform. Google isn't the theater in your analogy it would be the app itself. Truth Social is the theater Google is more like the state the theater is in. If the app sucks and becomes a shitshow let it collapse. But at least give it a chance.

Na the analogy is sound and you're mad that it's true, for sure. Or do you actually think google gets nothing out of an app's existence on their platform? Hosting an app is an agreed transaction, and every app can come back to bite google if they allow it on their platform. By the way, it's kind of funny you try to compare google to a state as if that makes it fine to post threats and hate. It would not reflect on the state any better, you know. Nor would a state allow violent, targeted threats either if they have the option. Using your version of the analogy, strong chance the state forces the theater to comply with fire yeller regulation or close down. The theater can't just host constant terrorists and shrug their shoulders.

Also Truth social is already collapsing under it's own garbagey baggage so there's really no point "giving it a chance." They don't pay their bills and they aren't moderating extremists. Nothing to gain but much to lose by saying you're cool with it.

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If you really believe truth social was banned by Google over "violent rhetoric" your a sheep.

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@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

A civics course has your answers.........

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@sargentd said:

If you really believe truth social was banned by Google over "violent rhetoric" your a sheep.

If you believe in constant conspiracy theories..........you're a silly sheep.

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@silentchief said:
@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

lmao. I knew the people who have no idea what free speech is would make the free speech argument. ha ha.

I know exactly what free speech is. To see how insane the left has got look to Canda and the UK. You can go to jail for offensive post.

In the US you have corporate overlords telling you what's suitable and what's not. It's an absolute clown show.

What you have described is free speech in the u.s. Lol. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but that's freedom!

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@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

let's not relitigate this

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haven't all the maga weirdos who were going to download the app already downloaded the app?

who cares at this point?

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#25  Edited By Silentchief
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@Vaasman said:
@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Didn't dodge, I refused to engage. No tears now!

And that's definitely not how it works. In the strictest legal sense they may not be liable but allowing extremists easy access on your platform to corroborate on violent rhetoric is bad business.

A theater can't be legally held responsible if someone yells "fire!" Only the individual. But if your theater becomes a hotbed for randos who love yelling "fire!" and you don't do anything to stop it, you're probably going to lose a lot of honest theatergoers.

Or to put it another way, maybe if one does not want to be ostracized, maybe one should stop telling people you're going to violently kill them and their country, the place that they live.

That's a shit analogy. You honestly think Google is going to lose a noticeable amount of customers because they allow you to download an offensive app 🤣🤣🤣.?

If you don't like it don't download it. It would have 0 impact on the rest of the platform. Google isn't the theater in your analogy it would be the app itself. Truth Social is the theater Google is more like the state the theater is in. If the app sucks and becomes a shitshow let it collapse. But at least give it a chance.

Na the analogy is sound and you're mad that it's true, for sure. Or do you actually think google gets nothing out of an app's existence on their platform? Hosting an app is an agreed transaction, and every app can come back to bite google if they allow it on their platform. By the way, it's kind of funny you try to compare google to a state as if that makes it fine to post threats and hate. It would not reflect on the state any better, you know. Nor would a state allow violent, targeted threats either if they have the option. Using your version of the analogy, strong chance the state forces the theater to comply with fire yeller regulation or close down. The theater can't just host constant terrorists and shrug their shoulders.

Also Truth social is already collapsing under it's own garbagey baggage so there's really no point "giving it a chance." They don't pay their bills and they aren't moderating extremists. Nothing to gain but much to lose by saying you're cool with it.

Nah it's not and you know it's not 🤣🤣

Google wouldn't lose any customer because the app is bad or inappropriate. There are shit tons of trash apps on the Playstore. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Again if you don't like it don't download it. Let the free market decide. If the app became a place for violent rhetoric then handle it afterwards. But shutting it down before it's given a chance is nonsense. It's not googles job to moderate all apps.

Thats besides the point. If it fails that way then that's on the creator's. I'm not defending the thing because I planned on using the app🤣🤣. It's the principle of picking and choosing what meets their standards when they are clearly skewed one way.

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Why is Google so mean? 😢

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@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:
@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

lmao. I knew the people who have no idea what free speech is would make the free speech argument. ha ha.

I know exactly what free speech is. To see how insane the left has got look to Canda and the UK. You can go to jail for offensive post.

In the US you have corporate overlords telling you what's suitable and what's not. It's an absolute clown show.

What you have described is free speech in the u.s. Lol. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but that's freedom!

Nobody should like it.

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@silentchief said:

Nah it's not and you know it's not 🤣🤣

Google wouldn't lose any customer because the app is bad or inappropriate. There are shit tons of trash apps on the Playstore. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Again if you don't like it don't download it. Let the free market decide. If the app became a place for violent rhetoric then handle it afterwards. But shutting it down before it's given a chance is nonsense. It's not googles job to moderate all apps.

Thats besides the point. If it fails that way then that's on the creator's. I'm not defending the thing because I planned on using the app🤣🤣. It's the principle of picking and choosing what meets their standards when they are clearly skewed one way.

Sorry but ya can't hide the shade. You also seem really confused because Truth Social was and is still actively being used to post content begging for violence, hatred, and civil war in response to recent events, and Truth Social's moderation is not stopping it. Whether from incompetence or willful compliance, it hardly matters. Hell, it's basically their mission statement not to moderate. I bet next you'll demand we sponsor an 8chan app.

"Shutting it down before it gets the chance," makes you look like your head's down deep in the sand.

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@silentchief said:
@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:
@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

lmao. I knew the people who have no idea what free speech is would make the free speech argument. ha ha.

I know exactly what free speech is. To see how insane the left has got look to Canda and the UK. You can go to jail for offensive post.

In the US you have corporate overlords telling you what's suitable and what's not. It's an absolute clown show.

What you have described is free speech in the u.s. Lol. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but that's freedom!

Nobody should like it.

So you want to force private companies to host your favorite wanna be dictator? Sorry, but that's not free speech. That's fascism.

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Good riddance to bad rubbish.

@sargentd said:

Don't like Twitters rules?

Just go make your own platform....

1. Get kicked off Twitter

2. Make own platform.

3. Don't pay bills.

4. Get kicked off major distribution/store

5. ?

6. Bankruptcy

@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

"Free speech" is not why it was delisted.

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#31  Edited By Zaryia
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@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

This is objectively not a free speech and/or first amendment issue. Google has every right to do this, as TS violates their Terms of Service. All TS has to do is moderate their fringe lunatic content better.

Ironically & Hypocritically enough, what conservatives are insinuating in this situation would actually violate Google's free speech on a factual level. We saw this with TX court rulings on far right social media laws:

Texas social media law blocked by U.S. Supreme Court | The Texas Tribune

@mrbojangles25 said:

@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

"Free speech" is not why it was delisted.

A lot of conservatives have no clue what that word means.

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It's typical for Google to remove malware from their platform.

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@pyro1245 said:

It's typical for Google to remove malware from their platform.

lol ^^^^ this guy gets it.

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#34 Silentchief
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@zaryia said:
@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

This is objectively not a free speech and/or first amendment issue. Google has every right to do this, as TS violates their Terms of Service. All TS has to do is moderate their fringe lunatic content better.

Ironically & Hypocritically enough, what conservatives are insinuating in this situation would actually violate Google's free speech on a factual level. We saw this with TX court rulings on far right social media laws:

Texas social media law blocked by U.S. Supreme Court | The Texas Tribune

@mrbojangles25 said:
@silentchief said:

It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

"Free speech" is not why it was delisted.

A lot of conservatives have no clue what that word means.

Hearing you mention conservatives don't know what free speech is only for you to show you have no clue what free speech is 🤣🤣.

How is removing googles ability to block political viewpoints removing their free speech?

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#35 Silentchief
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Good riddance to bad rubbish.

@sargentd said:

Don't like Twitters rules?

Just go make your own platform....

1. Get kicked off Twitter

2. Make own platform.

3. Don't pay bills.

4. Get kicked off major distribution/store

5. ?

6. Bankruptcy

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It's always funny to hear the leftist talk about saving Democracy when a large portion of them hate free speech.

"Free speech" is not why it was delisted.

Jesus christ connecting the dots for you people gets old. They can simply say something violates their Terms of Service and ban you under that rule. Even though the terms of service can have whatever reason they choose to have. For an example they could ban you for hate speech. And classify hate speech as anything they don't like.

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#36  Edited By Silentchief
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@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:
@tjandmia said:
@silentchief said:

I know exactly what free speech is. To see how insane the left has got look to Canda and the UK. You can go to jail for offensive post.

In the US you have corporate overlords telling you what's suitable and what's not. It's an absolute clown show.

What you have described is free speech in the u.s. Lol. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but that's freedom!

Nobody should like it.

So you want to force private companies to host your favorite wanna be dictator? Sorry, but that's not free speech. That's fascism.

No I just want then to be consistent and politically neutral.

For an example why does this app exist?

Antifa recruitment apps

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#37 SargentD
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@girlusocrazy said:

@sargentd: 0 avoid them like Facebook and Twitter

same.

I don't like that we have massive corporations having this much control over platforms/discourse.

I miss the old internet. The real internet.

Competition is good, I want as many platforms to be available, we don't need just Facebook and Twitter in control of 90% of the discourse on the internet... That doesn't mean people need to like Truth social either. Its obvious though that companies like Google and Apple have way to much control over who can even have a presence...

It pretty much makes it impossible for a platform to ever be able to compete with Facebook and Twitter. They are all intermingled, Google, apple, twitter, Facebook. They all look out for each other. I don't see how a competing platform will ever be able to compete if they aren't even allowed to be on the app stores that 99% of people use.

They can pretty much force any competitor out.

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#38  Edited By LJS9502_basic  Online
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@zaryia said:

This is objectively not a free speech and/or first amendment issue. Google has every right to do this, as TS violates their Terms of Service. All TS has to do is moderate their fringe lunatic content better.

Ironically & Hypocritically enough, what conservatives are insinuating in this situation would actually violate Google's free speech on a factual level. We saw this with TX court rulings on far right social media laws:

A lot of conservatives have no clue what that word means.

Hearing you mention conservatives don't know what free speech is only for you to show you have no clue what free speech is 🤣🤣.

How is removing googles ability to block political viewpoints removing their free speech?

Google has the right to decide what content they will allow on their site. Taking that away is authoritarians at best, fascism at worst. Hmmm......

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@silentchief said:
@zaryia said:

This is objectively not a free speech and/or first amendment issue. Google has every right to do this, as TS violates their Terms of Service. All TS has to do is moderate their fringe lunatic content better.

Ironically & Hypocritically enough, what conservatives are insinuating in this situation would actually violate Google's free speech on a factual level. We saw this with TX court rulings on far right social media laws:

A lot of conservatives have no clue what that word means.

Hearing you mention conservatives don't know what free speech is only for you to show you have no clue what free speech is 🤣🤣.

How is removing googles ability to block political viewpoints removing their free speech?

Google has the right to decide what content they will allow on their site. Taking that away is authoritarians at best, fascism at worst. Hmmm......

Letting a corporation handle discourse is no different especially when that corporation is one of the most powerful companies in the world.

If a company controls information flow as Google does they should be regulated.

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#40 LJS9502_basic  Online
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@silentchief said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Google has the right to decide what content they will allow on their site. Taking that away is authoritarians at best, fascism at worst. Hmmm......

Letting a corporation handle discourse is no different especially when that corporation is one of the most powerful companies in the world.

If a company controls information flow as Google does they should be regulated.

Perhaps it's time we looked at the amendments again and adjusted them to 2022 and not the late 1700's.

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@silentchief said:

Hearing you mention conservatives don't know what free speech is only for you to show you have no clue what free speech is 🤣🤣.

I was literally speaking on a purely objective level. Free speech does not apply to a private company's TOS and moderation in nearly every case/instance, including this one.

I'm not giving you my opinion or arguing with you. I'm telling you a straight up fact.

@silentchief said:

How is removing googles ability to block political viewpoints removing their free speech?

Google is using their Terms of Service, as they are allowed to do. Truth Social lacks moderation and violates their TOS. They are legally allowed to do this. If the cesspool that is Storm Front 2.0 (Truth Social) wants to get back in Google Play Store, it has to hire more moderators. Play by the rules, clean your shit out.

Trump’s Truth Social ‘Free Speech’ Motto Hides Filter Issue - Bloomberg

In a somewhat related case Texas tried to use your false definition, and failed.

Texas social media law blocked by U.S. Supreme Court | The Texas Tribune

The two industry trade groups that represent companies such as Google and Twitter sued to block the law last fall. In December, a federal district court judge ruled in favor of the groups and prevented the law from going into effect, reasoning that the First Amendment protects a company’s right to moderate content and calling parts of the law “prohibitively vague.”

P.S. The irony!

Truth Social Is Shadow Banning Posts Despite Promise of Free Speech (businessinsider.com)

Trump's "free speech" platform Truth Social bans users who post footage from Jan. 6 hearings | Salon.com

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@silentchief: The Antifa app exists on the okay store because Google has free speech and unlike "truth" social, the app actually follows goggles rules.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

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@zaryia said:
@silentchief said:

Hearing you mention conservatives don't know what free speech is only for you to show you have no clue what free speech is 🤣🤣.

I was literally speaking on a purely objective level. Free speech does not apply to a private company's TOS and moderation in nearly every case/instance, including this one.

I'm not giving you my opinion or arguing with you. I'm telling you a straight up fact.

@silentchief said:

How is removing googles ability to block political viewpoints removing their free speech?

Google is using their Terms of Service, as they are allowed to do. Truth Social lacks moderation and violates their TOS. They are legally allowed to do this. If the cesspool that is Storm Front 2.0 (Truth Social) wants to get back in Google Play Store, it has to hire more moderators.

Trump’s Truth Social ‘Free Speech’ Motto Hides Filter Issue - Bloomberg

In a somewhat related case Texas tried to use your false definition, and failed.

Texas social media law blocked by U.S. Supreme Court | The Texas Tribune

The two industry trade groups that represent companies such as Google and Twitter sued to block the law last fall. In December, a federal district court judge ruled in favor of the groups and prevented the law from going into effect, reasoning that the First Amendment protects a company’s right to moderate content and calling parts of the law “prohibitively vague.”

P.S. The irony!

Truth Social Is Shadow Banning Posts Despite Promise of Free Speech (businessinsider.com)

Trump's "free speech" platform Truth Social bans users who post footage from Jan. 6 hearings | Salon.com

You can literally restrict speech in a TOS. This is a battle that will continue to be fought as it should be. You can can ban hate speech in your TOS only to classify that as whatever you want.

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@tjandmia said:

@silentchief: The Antifa app exists on the okay store because Google has free speech and unlike "truth" social, the app actually follows goggles rules.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

It's a recruitment app for a terrorist organization. In other words your ok for free speech as long as it aligns with your beliefs.

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You can literally restrict speech in a TOS. This is a battle that will continue to be fought as it should be. You can can ban hate speech in your TOS only to classify that as whatever you want.

Calls for violence is against Google's TOS. Truth Social refuses to moderate it. Actions have consequences. Deal with it and stop whining about it.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@silentchief said:

You can literally restrict speech in a TOS. This is a battle that will continue to be fought as it should be. You can can ban hate speech in your TOS only to classify that as whatever you want.

Calls for violence is against Google's TOS. Truth Social refuses to moderate it. Actions have consequences. Deal with it and stop whining about it.

Yet it host apps for recruitment of groups thst actually commit violence. 🤔

Watching you bend the knee to your corporate oligarchs without question is amusing to say the least🤣

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@silentchief said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@silentchief said:

You can literally restrict speech in a TOS. This is a battle that will continue to be fought as it should be. You can can ban hate speech in your TOS only to classify that as whatever you want.

Calls for violence is against Google's TOS. Truth Social refuses to moderate it. Actions have consequences. Deal with it and stop whining about it.

Yet it host apps for recruitment of groups thst actually commit violence. 🤔

Watching you bend the knee to your corporate oligarchs without question is amusing to say the least🤣

I don't give a crap about large corporations. But I don't like your style of authoritarianism either.

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@girlusocrazy: be real... saying you can configure your DNS and install any OS you want does not address what I said.. you conveniently chopped out the part of your re quote...

"we don't need just Facebook and Twitter in control of 90% of the discourse on the internet... That doesn't mean people need to like Truth social either. Its obvious though that companies like Google and Apple have way to much control over who can even have a presence...

It pretty much makes it impossible for a platform to ever be able to compete with Facebook and Twitter. They are all intermingled, Google, apple, twitter, Facebook. They all look out for each other. I don't see how a competing platform will ever be able to compete if they aren't even allowed to be on the app stores that 99% of people use.

They can pretty much force any competitor out."

Nobody will ever be able to compete with Google, apple, Facebook, and Twitter calling the shots on whats accessible to the masses. If Google is invested in Facebook and Twitter... The play store will be used to keep competition out.